From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #71 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, February 23 2001 Volume 06 : Number 071 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] What's in a name ["Chris Turner" ] [AVALON] [Avalon]Solo Plans ["Pete Kohut" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan's "New Town" His Largest Tour? [Alex Popovic ] SV: [AVALON] Viva! Roxy Music [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= ] Re: [AVALON] Survey ["Reecey" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 03:04:04 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] What's in a name This reminds me of an old Terry Wogan interview with Debbie Harry: Wogan: How come you're calling yourself Deborah Harry these days? Harry: Because it's my name... Just kidding. It think the epithet 'The Great' came from a music paper article in the '70's. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of stevesiren Sent: 23 February 2001 00:17 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: [AVALON] What's in a name Can anyone tell me how & why Paul Thompson came to be known universally as "The Great Paul Thompson".? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:19:15 -0800 From: "Pete Kohut" Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon]Solo Plans >Does any one know if Bryan has stated his plans for October. Will he be releasing an album of original or covers? Will it include the Dave Stewart Co-written songs? Will it include material with Johnny Greenwood? Will he tour to support that album too? All I seem to know at this point is he will be coming out with an album, bearing his name on it, in or around October. Does anyone know anything more than that, for sure? Chris, maybe you can be of some help. Oh Yeah Richard, Bryan's birthday is September 26th 1945. To quote the late Alan Hull: We don't see eye to eye always, We can but only try in small ways <
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___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:24:12 -0600 From: Alex Popovic Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's "New Town" His Largest Tour? on 2/22/01 8:22 PM, jmdillon@mindspring.com at jmdillon@mindspring.com wrote: > Rod LeCloux wrote: > > From what I know all US copies were defective, including both of my copies. > Unfortunately, Virgin(US) was never held accountable or gave an explanation > of this. I'm sure when it came out a lot of people didn't even have HI-FI > VCR's yet and by the time they upgraded to one realized their precious Ferry > tape was fatally flawed. > > <><><><><>><> > > Pretty close actually. I noticed it when I recorded a cassette of New Town > to have for the car. I had just replaced the rear speakers in the Legend and > was looking forward to about an hour drive south on I 95. There are some > exteamly spirited track versions off Bete Noir and B & G's. as well as other > on New Town. > The version of the Chosen One is a killer. My first time hearing him do the > jazzy version of Casanova live. > > Please note: If you do not have this tape please do not let this deter you. > If you can find it for a reasonable price I encourage it's purchase. It is a > very find performance. > I really felt Bryan gave a lot on this tour in the states. > > Is it be safe to assume he was probably touring to his largest audiences as > headliner in his solo career? > > John D > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod LeCloux" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's "New Town" > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jeff Turner >> >>> There have been a number of posts recently about the 1988 "New Town" >> video, >>> which prompts me to ask, was there ever a version of this video where > the >>> soundtrack wasn't garbled? >> >> From what I know all US copies were defective, including both of my > copies. >> Unfortunately, Virgin(US) was never held accountable or gave an > explanation >> of this. I'm sure when it came out a lot of people didn't even have HI-FI >> VCR's yet and by the time they upgraded to one realized their precious > Ferry >> tape was fatally flawed. >> >> It would be nice to get an "official" explanation on this garbled-tape > from >> someone at Virgin. I'm sure word never got back to Bryan that they > screwed >> up his "New Town" video in the United States NTSC version. "Here comes > the >> chopper to chop off their heads..." >> >> Gotta run... baby's crying!! >> >> Rod >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> The subliminable footer says: >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > After ALL these years of owning and playing that video thinking that I had purchased the one defective tape in print, you guy's clear up another of life's mysteries. Thank you. P.S. I think some of "Bryan Ferry in Europe" was filmed in Milan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:27:58 EST From: Jimlan801@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] solo plans my understanding is that the new ferry album is all original stuff and has been ready for a long time. the roxy rebirth has pushed the release to october. we're used to delays though, aren't we?! jim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 05:12:00 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] I can't get started Hi Jonathan, Sorry to miss you at AMA. I was told that there are 'five or six' tracks outstanding from the ATGB sessions. One is very likely to be I Can't Get Started. I believe that another is a remade version of You Go To My Head. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 22 February 2001 11:26 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] I can't get started Hi all, Does anyone know if 'I Can't Get Started' was ever laid down as a studio track? All the best Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:52:22 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: SV: [AVALON] Viva! Roxy Music Amen! Ole-Petter - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Viva! Roxy Music > Jim wrote: > > I like andy newmark's playing myself, think he is a marvellous drummer, > but he is not paul thompson. simple as that. > give Viva! a spin and listen to that power! the virtuoso level of > interplay > between andy and phil has always been astonishing but it was even more > mind-blowing with paul in the game. ain't that so? > Jim > > <><><><><><><><><><> > > I agree about "Viva!" His drumming, especially on "Out Of The Blue" is > fantastic. > > John D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:39 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Viva! Roxy Music > > > > hello roxyfolk > > i've only been back to reading the list this last week but it strikes me > > straightaway that there is a kind of hazy divide between the purists and > the > > populists within the roxy family. the purists would broadly be those who > > probably dug the post-pause trilogy but who really stake all on the first > > five (+Viva!) discs. the populists would be those who got into roxy > > non-chronologically, so to speak, and perhaps rate the later music as > highly > > - or even more highly - than the first body of work. > > by extension, there are ultra-populists and ultra-purists ! > > me, i like both parts and see the whole thing as a progressive picture, > which > > it obviously is, but ultimately i am a purist. i think you could make an > > argument for any album up to and including Viva! as being the best. i > mean > > there's no point, no need to, but you could. whenever i play ANY one of > them > > i always think WOW! > > on the other hand, i could never for a moment consider the later records > to > > be in the same league as the earlier ones. i really like them but not in > the > > same way. they do not reach the same part of my brain. (actually i don't > get > > on at all well with flesh and blood, even though i loved that show). what > is > > great about roxy is that they always kept the force and thread going by > just > > being so incredibly good live, in both periods, big band and small. as a > > purist, give me the paul thompson band anytime, but the big last line-up > was > > sensational too, i think. some of you populists will see things the other > way > > around, i guess, so you are right too! i know what real roxy means to me > > but it ain't the same for everyone. > > so i agree with the the great paul thompson supporters club about the here > > and now. this could be the last time. what a chance missed if paul is not > > asked to join, when he is clearly ready to do it! i mean, can you imagine > > mel collins in place of andy, or spedding (even if we love him) in place > of > > pm? i like andy newmark's playing myself, think he is a marvellous > drummer, > > but he is not paul thompson. simple as that. > > give Viva! a spin and listen to that power! the virtuoso level of > interplay > > between andy and phil has always been astonishing but it was even more > > mind-blowing with paul in the game. ain't that so? jim > > > > oh yes, and i think my copy of new town is buzz-free. got it in france. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:55:07 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: SV: [AVALON] Viva! Roxy Music I totally agree! Really , it's that simple. I also got my "new town" in France, without buzzes. I wasn't able to watch in colour for many years due to the french video-system. Ole-Petter - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 2:39 AM Subject: [AVALON] Viva! Roxy Music > hello roxyfolk > i've only been back to reading the list this last week but it strikes me > straightaway that there is a kind of hazy divide between the purists and the > populists within the roxy family. the purists would broadly be those who > probably dug the post-pause trilogy but who really stake all on the first > five (+Viva!) discs. the populists would be those who got into roxy > non-chronologically, so to speak, and perhaps rate the later music as highly > - or even more highly - than the first body of work. > by extension, there are ultra-populists and ultra-purists ! > me, i like both parts and see the whole thing as a progressive picture, which > it obviously is, but ultimately i am a purist. i think you could make an > argument for any album up to and including Viva! as being the best. i mean > there's no point, no need to, but you could. whenever i play ANY one of them > i always think WOW! > on the other hand, i could never for a moment consider the later records to > be in the same league as the earlier ones. i really like them but not in the > same way. they do not reach the same part of my brain. (actually i don't get > on at all well with flesh and blood, even though i loved that show). what is > great about roxy is that they always kept the force and thread going by just > being so incredibly good live, in both periods, big band and small. as a > purist, give me the paul thompson band anytime, but the big last line-up was > sensational too, i think. some of you populists will see things the other way > around, i guess, so you are right too! i know what real roxy means to me > but it ain't the same for everyone. > so i agree with the the great paul thompson supporters club about the here > and now. this could be the last time. what a chance missed if paul is not > asked to join, when he is clearly ready to do it! i mean, can you imagine > mel collins in place of andy, or spedding (even if we love him) in place of > pm? i like andy newmark's playing myself, think he is a marvellous drummer, > but he is not paul thompson. simple as that. > give Viva! a spin and listen to that power! the virtuoso level of interplay > between andy and phil has always been astonishing but it was even more > mind-blowing with paul in the game. ain't that so? jim > > oh yes, and i think my copy of new town is buzz-free. got it in france. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:09:11 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: [AVALON] Survey I notice Grey Lagoons is doing rather poorly on the song survey at http://www.manzanera.com/Roxysurvey.htm If anyone else feels as strongly as I do that this song would be welcome addition to the Roxy setlist this summer, please go there and vote for it! I know some of you really dislike Grey Lagoons. In the spirit of personal rancour that seems to pervade this list, I would like to say "Yah boo sucks" to you. Also, as I type, I am blowing a really loud "raspberry". Ohh... messy keyboard! Yuck. Guy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:22:45 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Survey >> I notice Grey Lagoons is doing rather poorly on the song survey>> Grey Lagoons rules. Noticed it was doing rather poorly too. What the hell is 'Avalon' doing all the way up there ? Fascinating really, to see different opinions abound. Dangerous thing to mention actually, as if I end up being not too busy today, I'll end up doing my 'ultimate Bry/Roxy setlist'. Oh God, now you've got me started... Reecey... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Guy Lawley To: Avalon@Smoe.Org Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: [AVALON] Survey ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #71 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest