From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #54 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, February 14 2001 Volume 06 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Germany [Julialiva@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Concerts in Germany NOW ready to book! [Julialiva@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] 'official' sites/Vintage CD Rom [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] 'official' sites/Vintage CD Rom ["Reecey" ] [AVALON] Other band members? ["Victor Hastings" ] RE: [AVALON] Other band members? [Jocelyn Fiske ] [AVALON] Hmm, That looks familiar... ["Chris Turner" ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy support act [Michael Hill ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy support act [DuggerRonaldD@uams.edu] Re: [AVALON] Hmm, That looks familiar... ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy support act [stevesiren ] [AVALON] S-a-t-u-r-d-a-y night [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Savoy Ballroom : The thrill, the thrill, the.... ["Jane Coll] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:06:42 EST From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Germany Roxy will be playing Munich in June, the exact date: June 26th!!!, ticket-price DM 93,50 - can be booked via www.muenchenticket.de. Good luck! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:11:09 EST From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concerts in Germany NOW ready to book! Hallo Christoph, Warum nicht gleich die Details; hab' Dein altes Info bereits an Kicki und AVALON verschickt. Gru_, Julia. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:21:04 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'official' sites/Vintage CD Rom Is this a reissue of the Psalm disc? In a message dated 14/02/01 02:51:38 GMT Standard Time, johnny.reece@virgin.net writes: > Just been watching the 'Vintage' Disc, first chance I've had since it > reached my grubby hands last Friday. Four and a half songs (big chunk of > Hard Rain is missing !) and will be a full price thing. I didn't want to > give it a bad review - but it's a shoddy piece of work, really. > Nil points for the company who shoved this out. Poor sound quality, and even > bits of text missing from the booklet. You have been warned. ! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:20:53 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'official' sites/Vintage CD Rom > Is this a reissue of the Psalm disc?> It seems to be a replacement for it, as I think 'Psalm' is no longer available. There is no 'S.Life' or 'V.Plain' on Vintage though, but it does have 'Editions', which was not included on the Psalm disc. Reecey... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:05:58 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Meeting Up at Roxy Music Tour Dates [was Re: Nottingham] > In a message dated 02/13/2001 5:39:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > dsquires@nildram.co.uk writes: > > 1. You contact me off list at Roxy_Tour@squires.nildram.co.uk and > > let me know which date (or dates for Reecey, JO'B et al) you'll be at. To which, on 13 Feb 2001, at 19:53, Arnie replied: > U.S. gigs, too? Hell, why not?! I could collect details for all dates if that's what people would like. I don't suppose anything will be online for a couple of weeks yet, but there is a little time to play with! I've had a couple of messages from UK members so far. And one from me to check that the address was valid! David (endorphin-rich having just returned from a 25 mile bicycle ride in perfect weather conditions here in the east of England...) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:37:31 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Imperialism gone mad - ------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:45:43 EST >From: Chandla911@aol.com >Subject: [AVALON] Imperialism gone mad > > >"There aren't that many dates in America, actually," said Fogel of the > >arena and amphitheatre tour. "It's likely to be around a 50-show tour, of > >which 12 to 15 would be in North America. " > >lol...there aren't many dates in America. Only 30% of the whole world tour >in one country! Imagine if Britain had only 12 or 15 shows and we went >around >saying we didn't have many shows...pardon? when they add extra dates, we >will >have? sorry? We're a much, much smaller country? Oh OK, I'll shut up... I'm not at all happy about having to travel 550 miles to make even a single show, and seriously question whether it's worth the bother. Asshole promoters... and I was all set to take a Roxy vacation and a week off and go see them in Nashville, Atlanta, Raleigh, Miami... oh well. - --Grant http://go.to/popocalypse _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:00:25 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] Press conf pics at Avalon Hi, Jocelyn pictures from the press conference are now uploaded to my site: http://www.avalon.pp.se /Kicki G ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:20:34 -0600 From: BILL GILLAM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Imperialism gone mad I am in a dilemma too... I last saw Roxy Music during the Manifesto tour in Los Angeles. I would dearly love to see the Southern United States given some reconsideration... PLEASE!!!!! Surely Memphis, New Orleans, Atlanta, Dallas, Miami among others would be a worthwhile leg to the tour!!!! Anyone with influes or contacts PLEASE make our case!!!!! At this point I am unsure what to do...... but feel I MUST see them! Regards, BILL I'm not at all happy about having to travel 550 miles to make even a single show, and seriously question whether it's worth the bother. Asshole promoters... and I was all set to take a Roxy vacation and a week off and go see them in Nashville, Atlanta, Raleigh, Miami... oh well. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:21:04 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: [AVALON] Other band members? Does anyone know who will be backing up Bryan, Andy and Phil on this tour? I knew Eno would never tour, but has Eddie Jobson's name popped up? If not, who will play keyboards? Will Neil Hubbard be along for the ride? Davy O'List? ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:13:40 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Other band members? Still all we've heard is Colin Good - keyboards, Zev Katz -bass, Lucy Wilkins - violin, Mick Green - backup guitar, no news on drummer yet, they said at the Press Conference the line-up would be announced end of this week or beginning of next. Keep you fingers crossed for TGPT over the permed poodle Andy Newmark and his offensive knees. - -----Original Message----- From: Victor Hastings [mailto:vhastings@cfl.rr.com] Sent: 14 February 2001 15:21 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Other band members? Does anyone know who will be backing up Bryan, Andy and Phil on this tour? I knew Eno would never tour, but has Eddie Jobson's name popped up? If not, who will play keyboards? Will Neil Hubbard be along for the ride? Davy O'List? ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:44:48 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Other band members? The tightness of lip by the band Re: TGPT suggests to me his appearance on this tour is being negotiated as we speak......fingers crossed eh...? love Jonathan In a message dated 14/02/01 16:35:37 GMT Standard Time, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: > Still all we've heard is Colin Good - keyboards, Zev Katz -bass, Lucy > Wilkins - violin, Mick Green - backup guitar, no news on drummer yet, they > said at the Press Conference the line-up would be announced end of this week > or beginning of next. Keep you fingers crossed for TGPT over the permed > poodle Andy Newmark and his offensive knees. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:40:10 +0100 From: Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pepperrell) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Germany Thank you very much for the information. Within minutes of reading your mail I ordered my third row ticket. Dankeschvn. The first two rows are reserved for the VIP's ! DM 146 (50 quid) plus Agency charges ! a lot of money, considering I must travel from Hamburg ! but what the hell... this is Roxy Music, well at least half of them... It's a rip-off in some way, and sad that there's not a new cd in sight, but my feelings for BF/RM just overwhelm any logic to boycott all of this.We've been disappointed so often in the past, but "I Can't Let Go".... Thanks, Stephen Julialiva@aol.com schrieb: Roxy will be playing Munich in June, the exact date: June 26th!!!, ticket-price DM 93,50 - can be booked via www.muenchenticket.de. Good luck! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:09:36 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Imperialism gone weird > lol...there aren't many dates in America. Only 30% of the whole world > tour in one country! Imagine if Britain had only 12 or 15 shows and we > went around saying we didn't have many shows...pardon? when they add > extra dates, we will have? sorry? We're a much, much smaller country? > Oh OK, I'll shut up... >It's not nice to bait the Americans, you know. Besides, you can't count >the Canadian dates in with ours. >Colleen I didn't! Fogel Sharkey did... ;-) Richard n/p Who Is Jill Scott? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:34:18 -0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Other band members? That really would be brilliant. I hope you're right. Andrew. >From: KWil632057@aol.com >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Other band members? >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:44:48 EST > >The tightness of lip by the band Re: TGPT suggests to me his appearance on >this tour is being negotiated as we speak......fingers crossed eh...? > > >love >Jonathan > > > > > > >In a message dated 14/02/01 16:35:37 GMT Standard Time, >Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: > > > > Still all we've heard is Colin Good - keyboards, Zev Katz -bass, Lucy > > Wilkins - violin, Mick Green - backup guitar, no news on drummer yet, >they > > said at the Press Conference the line-up would be announced end of this >week > > or beginning of next. Keep you fingers crossed for TGPT over the permed > > poodle Andy Newmark and his offensive knees. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:45:30 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'official' sites/Vintage CD Rom - ----- Original Message ----- From: Reecey To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:34 AM Subject: [AVALON] 'official' sites/Vintage CD Rom > Meanwhile, still a 2nd Wembley date listed on Ferry site, but just the one > on Manzos. Teasers ! 2nd Wembly date has now been removed from the Ferry site! (shame as my credit card let me down online at 8 a.m. yesterday for the 1st Wembly date and to get any good seats I had to make do with N.E.C.) P.S. any thoughts from anyone on who the support act will be (assuming there is one?) Regards Neil Jones ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:05:25 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Savoy Ballroom : The thrill, the thrill, the.... Julia has written a truly bizarre post about the Press Conference. > Thanks for the info Jocelyn; must have been a strange press-conference - > there wasn't much enthusiasm (from Roxy) nor critism (from the journalists) > involved, was there? She goes on o say what a sad affair it was and so forth. Nothing could be further from the truth. Jocelyn's shorthand notes admittedly betray little of the electric atmosphere prevalent in the pink flamingo shaded ballroom. For I too was there. I bumped into one or two battle-weary journos of my acquaintance who readily proferred views that this was the most exciting event of its type they had witnessed. Bar none. When the master of ceremonies blithely introduced our immaculately attired heroes with the soubriquet "undoubtedly one of the greatest bands of all time" it was lump in throat, chill down the spine, faint shine on upper lip time. They were all charming, well spoken, friendly, attentive and candid. Jocelyn and I are of the opinion that their remark about Paul Thompson was toungue in cheek, and talks are indeed in progress on that front. Bryan politely deflected comments about himself - his style, his near-death experience, his solo career - in favour of a corporate Roxy outlook. He spoke warmly about the unique Roxy sound. Whilst Andy seemed the least comfortable with the limelight, Manzo positively shone and seemed really up for it. They appeared as they are, three friendly successful people proud of their achievements and ready to do it all again. Martino ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:14:27 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] BF's oeuvre (boring for incognoscenti) Ton wrote "One could argue whether our Master of Control would allow uncontrolled glimpses into his psyche..." Agreed, Ton - I believe Mr. Ferry wears a mask and diligently scrutinizes every word and phrase he writes. However, no one is so adept and crafty to be able to selectively control what glimpses of their psyche are related to the listener whilst filtering the aspects one wishes to retain as private. I also point to the apparent writer's block that may (or may not) be characterized by Mr. Ferry's scant output of original material over the past years. Perhaps his attempt to maintain a controlled image, inwardly and outwardly, has effectively squelched his abilities at lyrical composition. But after all is said and done, do we, or could we, possibly know who the real person of Bryan Ferry is. How many of us truly know and understand our own self, let alone anyone else? Bryan Ferry's interior landscape is just that - his interior subjective mind set. Reality is not hard and fast. Ton is correct in stating that the artist's creation is a mixture of reality as seen by the artist, his imagination and fantasy, self-image and self projection. Highly pertinent in this creative cauldron is the artist's self-consciousness and his relationship, as he regards it, to the consumer of his art. Yes, very complex. The day we exactly define Bryan Ferry, the day we cease to question who or what Bryan Ferry is all about, is the day we may become bored with him. I dare say, our fascination for him would evaporate. As Colleen said, a tiger with no teeth... So, just as I had asked early last year and heard almost no feedback, I ask once again: Is Bryan Ferry - the real person - as sad, as lonely as he sounds. Does he wear his heart on his sleeve. Or, is it all a put-on? My curiosity is inherent in my desire to understand the things that affect me so that I may understand why I am affected by those things dear to me. Bryan Ferry's music grabbed my heart, and perhaps a portion of my soul, from the very first time I heard it. I loved his work long before I knew any thing about the person named Bryan Ferry. To date I remain as far away from an understanding of the real person as I did when I first discovered his work: I consider that a testament to the poly lateral nature of BF's lyrics, the multidimensional nature of his output, the complexities and layers of his musical compositions. Those characteristics allow many diverse interpretations, enable the listener to wander about in Ferryland, an abstract. The very nature of Ferry's work is exactly that which separates the great from the mondain, grabs our interest, piques our emotions and keeps us guessing. To Christian, Colleen, Dan, Michael, Victor, Ton (whose English is better than many natives'), and others who have contributed, I thank you for your valued insights and perspectives. I hope we may continue further discussion on the "meaning of life" according to BF and his fans. Now, Ton, if you will do us the courtesy and respond to your initial question concerning the poly lateral themes you perceive in the lyrics: "... but there always remains my obsession: Through silken waters my gondola glides and the bridge it sighs." Best wishes. KBP PS Ton, you wrote: "One's understanding of the world always comes too late; in other words: if you want to know what life means and what you can get out of it, you have to come to a certain age, and it's just at that age when you realize you're too old now for the things you missed. So, a tragic paradox." I don't believe that is entirely true - at least for some it is not. If it was true, what hope might we hold for the future? Regret is regrettable, indeed. But 'live and learn' need not be a tragic paradox. Be here now - it is a choice within our power. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:40:14 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Other band members? Zev Katz emergence as Roxy bassist is an interesting one, if this unconfirmed story is true. As I understand it the original bassist booked for the As Time Goes By tour went on a massive two day bender just days before the tour started in the States, and ended up MIA. Local bassist Zev was rapidly recruited...and has been in Ferry's band almost without a break since. He's certainly a wonderfully fluent player. Happenstance is a remarkable thing... Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jocelyn Fiske Sent: 14 February 2001 16:14 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [AVALON] Other band members? Still all we've heard is Colin Good - keyboards, Zev Katz -bass, ... To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:44:14 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Hmm, That looks familiar... Reecey Wrote: The '20 facts you don't know about Roxy Music' on Manzo's Site needs a bit of attention - particularly No.8. But it's ok, as I'll direct them to Roxyrama for the correct information. Ha-ha ! Funny you should say that Reecey... From '20 Things You Never Knew About Roxy Music #1': In 1956 the teenage Bryan Ferry won tickets to see Bill Haley and the Comets at the Empire Theatre, Sunderland in a radio Luxembourg contest From Roxyrama's Chronology Page: 1956. The teenage Ferry wins tickets to see Bill Haley and the Comets at the Empire Theatre, Sunderland in a Radio Luxembourg contest. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- 20 Things #5: With typical Roxy perversity, their debut single 'Virginia Plain' was released after their debut album, and did not appear on it. From Roxyrama: With typical Roxy perversity, debut single 'Virginia Plain' is released after the album, and does not appear on it. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- 20 Things: In June '73 Roxy won Grand Prix du Disque for the best album at the Golden Rose Festival in Montreux, Switzerland Roxyrama: June 1973: Roxy win Grand Prix du Disque for best album at the Golden Rose Festival in Montreaux, Switzerland - --------------------------------------------------------------------- 20 Things: Roxy's 'Angel Eyes' single, a disco excerpt from 'Manifesto', was available As an extended 12", propelling the single to No. 4 in the UK chart Roxyrama: Sept 79: Angel Eyes" a disco tinted excerpt from Manifesto, and available in both single and extended 12" versions, reaches number 4 in the UK. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- 20 Things: The band's eighth and ultimately final studio album... Roxyrama: An eighth and ultimately final studio album... (sorry about my inadvertent tautology!) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- And of course...(note the one significant difference...) 20 Things: Roxy's third album, 'For Your Pleasure', released in November '73, became their first UK No. 1 album, dominating the charts for two months Roxyrama: Roxy's third Album 'Stranded' is released, and becomes Roxy Music's first UK No.1 album, dominating the charts for two months. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Always happy to help out the lads...but they weren't 20 things I didn't know ;0) Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:20:39 +0100 From: "C.H.Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concerts in Germany NOW ready to book! Do you know if this is the only German tour date? Or has it already been confirmed that there will be another tour stop in Germany? I'd have to travel through the entire country if it were the only concert. Amsterdam would be nearer... I can't imagine them leaving out Hamburg or Berlin! I hope das ist nicht das Ende der Welt! Please help! All the best Christian - ---------- >Von: "Dr. Christoph Foerster" >An: >Betreff: [AVALON] Concerts in Germany NOW ready to book! >Datum: Mit, 14. Feb 2001 9:25 Uhr > >Hi you German Avalonians! > >Great news: > >Roxy can bee booked for the 26th June 2001 in Munich, Olympiastadion. >Price from 87,75 DM to 145,25 DM. Contact and on-line booking: >www.muenchenticket.de > >Noch viele schoenste Wiedersehen! >Christoph > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:20:29 +0000 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] BF's oeuvre (boring for incognoscenti) I can't help but be fascinated by this discussion! I have always felt that Bryan is not only instantly loveable for his music and style, but for his seemingly reserved nature. He's always seen as the King of all things stylish and suave, an ice-cool avant gardist who attracts an army of aspiring "culture-vultures". But what I have found most fascinating, and endearing, about him in recent years is his wonderfully bashful, charming and above all nice nature. It has been expressed that he tries to hide his emotions at times, and he certainly has done so to quite an extent, especially when talking about family problems. But at the same time it is clear that he is a very deep man, with a lot of heavy thoughts going round his head. He obviously wishes to retain the "stiff upper lip" and so on, but it is truly heartening to catch the odd glimpse of his powerful emotions. When my mother and I saw him in Glasgow, she was compelled to him from the first croon and radiant smile. I find it fascinating that she noted how pleased he was with the audiences' response to him, and how bashfully he accepted praise. He really stands out as a loveable enigma, and another feature I wish was better-documented is his fabulous sense of humour. Many reporters have commented on his long pauses before answering questions, and I think this is simply down to him being an incredibly deep thinker, trying to be informative, friendly, and say the most appropriate, intelligent answers. I hope this doesn't sound like a big pile of nonsense, but I find his personality so interesting, and, clearly, so hard to describe! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:40:51 +0100 From: "C.H.Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] BF's oeuvre (boring for incognoscenti) A belated thank you, Ton, for this compliment. To think somebody could consider a statement of mine as "Ferryesque" is very flattering indeed! By the way, I don't think German is that easy (unfortunately not, oder nicht?). Furthermore, it's interesting that you've mentioned the "in hindsight" aspect of grasping or interpreting past events of one's life. To me, this again is quintessential Ferry territory, isn't it? The lost-in-the-past-topic in Ferry's work is a recurring one. And he was right when he summed it up "We live, we die / We know not why". Christian - ---------- >Von: "Ton Darly" >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] BF's oeuvre (boring for incognoscenti) >Datum: Mon, 12. Feb 2001 22:31 Uhr > >Isn't this kind of tragedy a universal theme in literature? Why is this so >attractive? Do we recognize in our hero our own struggle with life? Does >this give consolation? (Help! Is there a psychologist in the room?) >Christian, I appreciate your Ferryesque romantization: "... the top musical >moments of my life (the only top moments anyway...)". Stylish! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:55:15 +0000 From: stevesiren Subject: [AVALON] Roxy support act Almost without fail Roxy have had an up & coming young band as support, (Tourists,Sharks,Mika's) but with the passing of time I can't see any of todays bands wishing to associated with an ageing group, no matter how influential.So I'd like to see something similar to what The Who did on their recent tour, and have someone like Joe Strummer(ok, I'm biased) or maybe some other reformed 70's group like Burlesque or A Raincoat. But please no attractive Brazilian's doing covers of "the girl from ipanema"! Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:01:14 +0000 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy support act Who needs/wants a "warm-up?" Give me red-hot Roxy any day! :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:08:52 -0600 From: DuggerRonaldD@uams.edu Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy support act Remember back in the day when Roxy Music and Alice Cooper were on the same bill? What kind of crowd would you get for that today? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:19:00 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hmm, That looks familiar... Dare I say it ? Deep breath. Management ! - ---------- >From: "Chris Turner" >To: >Subject: [AVALON] Hmm, That looks familiar... >Date: Wed, Feb 14, 2001, 8:44 pm > > Reecey Wrote: > > The '20 facts you don't know about Roxy Music' on Manzo's Site needs a bit > of attention - particularly No.8. But it's ok, as I'll direct them to > Roxyrama for the correct information. Ha-ha ! > > > > Funny you should say that Reecey... > >>From '20 Things You Never Knew About Roxy Music #1': In 1956 the teenage > Bryan Ferry won tickets to see Bill Haley and the Comets at the Empire > Theatre, Sunderland in a radio Luxembourg contest > >>From Roxyrama's Chronology Page: 1956. The teenage Ferry wins tickets to see > Bill Haley and the Comets at the Empire Theatre, Sunderland in a Radio > Luxembourg contest. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > 20 Things #5: With typical Roxy perversity, their debut single 'Virginia > Plain' was released after their debut album, and did not appear on it. > >>From Roxyrama: With typical Roxy perversity, debut single 'Virginia Plain' > is released after the album, and does not appear on it. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > 20 Things: In June '73 Roxy won Grand Prix du Disque for the best album at > the Golden Rose Festival in Montreux, Switzerland > > Roxyrama: June 1973: Roxy win Grand Prix du Disque for best album at the > Golden Rose Festival in Montreaux, Switzerland > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > 20 Things: Roxy's 'Angel Eyes' single, a disco excerpt from 'Manifesto', was > available As an extended 12", propelling the single to No. 4 in the UK chart > > Roxyrama: Sept 79: Angel Eyes" a disco tinted excerpt from Manifesto, and > available in both single and extended 12" versions, reaches number 4 in the > UK. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > 20 Things: The band's eighth and ultimately final studio album... > > Roxyrama: An eighth and ultimately final studio album... (sorry about my > inadvertent tautology!) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > And of course...(note the one significant difference...) > > 20 Things: Roxy's third album, 'For Your Pleasure', released in November > '73, became their first UK No. 1 album, dominating the charts for two months > > Roxyrama: Roxy's third Album 'Stranded' is released, and becomes Roxy > Music's first UK No.1 album, dominating the charts for two months. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Always happy to help out the lads...but they weren't 20 things I didn't know > ;0) > > Chris > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:31:16 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy support act In a message dated 14/02/01 22:25:43 GMT Standard Time, stevesiren@netscapeonline.co.uk writes: > <> Now there's a blast from the past, I remember seeing Burlesque at the Glasgow Apollo supporting Be-Bop Deluxe in 1976 and the following year at Hamilton Tech. college. What a brilliant and funny band, their "Acupuncture" album is a real one off. Have they reformed? JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:35:57 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy support act >>> maybe some other reformed 70's group like Burlesque or A Raincoat.>>> >>> please no attractive Brazilian's doing covers of "the girl from > ipanema"!>>> I liked the attractive Brazilian. However, the music sucked. Careful with the 'A Raincoat' suggestion Steve, the single's great, but the Album, well...... Purely on a nostalgia vote, for me it would have to be the Sadistic Mika Band. Best Roxy support by a mile. Either that, or the time machines coming out, and we're getting The Shangri-las. No arguments from you on that one, I bet. Reecey... - ----- Original Message ----- From: stevesiren ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:01:47 +0000 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy support act JFROXY@aol.com wrote: > > > Now there's a blast from the past, I remember seeing Burlesque at the Glasgow > Apollo supporting Be-Bop Deluxe in 1976 and the following year at Hamilton > Tech. college. What a brilliant and funny band, their "Acupuncture" album is > a real one off. > Have they reformed? > > JF. > Not as far as I know, it was just wishful thinking on my part. Mmm Reecey, Ferry & Mary Weiss doing a duet of "give him a great big kiss" now that WOULD be worth #35! I'm good bad but i'm not evil. Steve > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:00:39 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy support act Moby would be good. In a message dated 14/02/01 22:25:41 GMT Standard Time, stevesiren@netscapeonline.co.uk writes: > Almost without fail Roxy have had an up & coming young band as support, > (Tourists,Sharks,Mika's) but with the passing of time I can't see any of > todays bands wishing to associated with an ageing group, no matter how > influential.So I'd like to see something similar to what The Who did on > their recent tour, and have someone like Joe Strummer(ok, I'm biased) or > maybe some other reformed 70's group like Burlesque or A Raincoat. But > please no attractive Brazilian's doing covers of "the girl from > ipanema"! > Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:15:34 0000 From: "diane whateley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy support act Please oh please, don't let it be the manic banjo band that supported Bry during his summer tour- that'd be the end! Well maybe not, but pretty bloody awful... Diane - -- On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:35:57 Reecey wrote: >>>> maybe some other reformed 70's group like Burlesque >or A Raincoat.>>> >>>> please no attractive Brazilian's doing covers of "the girl from >> ipanema"!>>> > >I liked the attractive Brazilian. However, the music sucked. >Careful with the 'A Raincoat' suggestion Steve, the single's great, but the >Album, well...... >Purely on a nostalgia vote, for me it would have to be the Sadistic Mika >Band. Best Roxy support by a mile. Either that, or the time machines >coming out, and we're getting The Shangri-las. No arguments from you on >that one, I bet. > >Reecey... > >----- Original Message ----- >From: stevesiren > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > > Get your small business started at Lycos Small Business at http://www.lycos.com/business/mail.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:23:11 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] S-a-t-u-r-d-a-y night I think the Bay City Rollers should open for Roxy. It'd help with the US ticket sales too. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:23:16 -0000 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Savoy Ballroom : The thrill, the thrill, the.... Martin - thanks for these comments "from our reporters on the spot". They seem to echo all the press coverage I've read in the last two days. There's a good article in today's London Evening Standard (post-Press Conference interview) - and it's interesting to note that some of the reasons given by our boys echo theories put forward on this list when the news of the reunion first broke (e.g it's 30 years since they formed, Ferry realised how much the Roxy numbers were appreciated at his own gigs last year - "The resonance from the audience, the warmth that came over from them for these songs - not only the hits, but some of the more obscure stuff - made me aware at first-hand of how much public interest there still was," - and I'm sure Ferry's own increased confidence in his stage presence has had a big influence). The article is here (also on Phil Manzanera's website): http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/hottx/top_review.html?in_review_id=361 341&in_review_text_id=305967 Yes - there is nostalgia (can one divorce that from good music appreciated from between 20 and 30 years ago, and the memories that it inevitably carries?), but the quality of the material does not diminish. I really cannot wait to see how the old numbers are re-worked for the tour. They want to do this - for themselves and, above all, for their audience. The least we can do is appreciate it! Jane (counting the days until Birmingham and Wembley) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Stockman To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Savoy Ballroom : The thrill, the thrill, the.... > They appeared as they are, three friendly successful people proud of > their achievements and ready to do it all again. > > Martino > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #54 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest