From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #30 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, January 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] sartus resartus ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] One thing we share is an ideal of beauty ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] Touring Toujours [M Gus ] Re: [AVALON] the reason behind the tour? [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] Sunday Times [Kicki Gustafsson ] [AVALON] To tour or not to tour ["Rob Edwards" ] Re: [AVALON] To tour or not to tour [KWil632057@aol.com] R: [AVALON] R.I.P. ["danilo" ] Re: [AVALON] Sunday Times ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] regret to inform ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus ["C.H.Soetemann" ] [AVALON] Reunion set list? [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] New Roxy Fans ["Rob Edwards" ] Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus ["R. Jackson" ] Re[2]: [AVALON] regret to inform [M Gus ] RE: [AVALON] BBC News news - Roxy Music to reform ["Richard Jones" ] [AVALON] Roxy Reform ["Laura Shadbolt" ] Re: [AVALON] Reunion set list? [Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen P] Re: [AVALON] Pockets of Negativity ["David Firmin" ] Re: [AVALON] Pockets of Negativity [JFROXY@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:29:24 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] sartus resartus Blimey indeed. Even if it just turns out to be a Greatest Hits tour (and I expect a bit of added value from our heroes) it will be a Fun Night Out. Even a Pseudo-Intellectual Dribbling Old Fart like me remembers what it used to be like to have fun. If we want to hear the great old stuff, we can put on a CD in the comfort of our own headphones, but a Fun Night Out is, well, it's likely to be more... fun! Like A Mad Affair, which many of us are looking forward to, and which doesn't promise Brian Eno or The Great Paul Thompson or new material either. And new material, original members etc. is no guarantee of The Goods. I for one was extremely disappointed in the reformed Television's eponymous album, for example. (Coincidentally, they're at it again in 2001, it seems.) I'm very happy to look forward to whatever Roxy Music Inc. chooses to sell us, and to give them some of my $$$ (or ###). Especially since I can now anticipate an Avalonian gathering at the same time (assuming those of you who meet me at AMA aren't totally disgusted by my Flesh & Blood incarnation (tautologous? I'm sure Colleen will tell me off :O))) Onward and backward, comrades! Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 26 January 2001 22:43 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus Blimey. Our favourite group is reforming for a tour, try to sound excited at least. In a message dated 26/01/01 22:26:07 GMT Standard Time, cjem@his.com writes: << On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rachel Smither wrote: > From: kevin routley > >this concerns the roxy tour. why tour with out a new album? to tour $$$$$$ Cold Hard Cash. > with out a new album on old stuff is a bit of a no no . peolpe will > see it as a 80 revival. i think its a bad move for ferry only as his > recent stuff will be cast aside for hits from the past. and when he > tours ago as bryan ferry all the fans who turned up for the roxy tour > will expect the same stuff again. i think the promotor whos doing the > tour will be laughing all the way to the back. as the fans will be This tour is not about artistic integrity or looking to the future. It's a glance backward. Blah blah blah blah blah........................ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:47:54 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] One thing we share is an ideal of beauty I'm glad to see some intelligent observations getting on the list after all this bar-stool ranting. The prospective reunion raises more questions than answers, but it must be cause for rejoicing. Firstly I think fellow Avalonions are mistaken in speculating that the reformation is (merely) a "cashing-in" on the recent rise in Ferry stock. For around five years there have been whispers around London about original Roxy members booking studio-time. It is beyond doubt, for instance, that the boys were pencilled-in to headline Glastonbury in 1999, (above REM !) and only late arguments over cash cancelled this coup de theatre. More fancifully I'd be inclined to date thoughts about reunion back to Andy's thrilling guest spot on the encore of the Bete Noire tour at the Dominion Theatre in London. Bryan's face betrayed real surprise at the acclaim bestowed upon his former saxophonist, and at dinner later that night at the Chelsea Arts Club the co-writers of Song For Europe were seen in deep discussion over their langoustines. But joking apart i think the general good will towards the band in recent times may be as much an incentive as the more obvious commercial considerations. Secondly I think we can be fairly sure that, so long as UK sales go okay, they'll be duckwalking across European and North American stages this year. Thirdly I'd be surprised if Bryan felt compelled not to release an album of his own sometime soon, regardless of this recent news. There's clearly some wonderful stuff in the can, self-penned and remodels, and he may even release it as a hedge against prospective press backlash over the reunion. ie I'm still a working artist and these shows are a joyful exercise in nostalgia. Finally I understand although not necessarily empathise with our aggressive friends who pine for Thundersticks, Jobson et al. It's a boy thing. We have debated ad nauseum the respective merits of the canon, and we'll never agree. Like many I too had my reservations about the mellow tone of Avalon upon first hearing but I've come to love it more and more, and find new things in it to this day. Conversly I find some of the after-you-vicar solos on the first two albums fairly dated, having thought them almost unbearably hip when I first encountered them. All styles served here, mais naturalment. Martino ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:57:52 +0100 From: M Gus Subject: [AVALON] Touring Toujours Wow, it's really fabulous! Ofcourse I hope and pray they'll come to somewhere near Netherlands/Belgium... And I hope they won't look like the Rolling Stones do currently (a bit bleak and faded...) Whoehoe, I'm doing a dance of joy! Gus PS Is the Robert E. Lee that posted on the list really *THE* Robert E. Lee or am I just gullible? - --- "Sweetly reminiscent, something mother used to bake..." -David Bowie http://www.cs.vu.nl/~gagussek gagussek@cs.vu.nl - --- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 06:49:34 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] the reason behind the tour? Remember the last tour? Remember the reaction to the Roxy Music material he performed? Thats the reason for the tour!!!!! Of course they'll do the 'hits' but i reckon we'll get the Chance Meetings and Sunsets of this world as well.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:03:08 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] Sunday Times Hi, I've been asked by a reporter from Sunday Times (!) too comment on Roxy's reforming for tomorrows paper. This is what I wrote him: I find myself wondering at the reasons behind this. Lack of money? A reunion after 18 years can of course be great fun, a nostalgia fest for the die hard fans who'll be moved to tears (certainly me!) upon hearing the old songs perfomed by the boys again, but there's always the risk that the whole affair will be uncomfortably pathetic. But Roxy Music was always about style, and hopefully they can pull this one off too. The Roxy numbers were handled with great care during Bryan Ferry's As Time Goes By tour last year. If they _do_ go on tour, I hope they'll have the decency to include Paul "The Great" Thompson in the lineup. I don't know if he'll actually use this in his piece, but keep your eyes open :-) /Kicki G - ------------- http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG http://www.avalon.pp.se ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:07:28 -0000 From: "Rob Edwards" Subject: [AVALON] To tour or not to tour I think it's great news! I wouldn't be surprised if another Greatest Hits was put out, might be TV advertised! It's a guess but an educated one. Rob Edwards ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:20:46 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] To tour or not to tour Are we really sure that there is no new Roxy album?? In a message dated 27/01/01 12:18:28 GMT Standard Time, robedwards@tinyworld.co.uk writes: << I think it's great news! I wouldn't be surprised if another Greatest Hits was put out, might be TV advertised! It's a guess but an educated one. Rob Edwards >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:38:02 -0000 From: "Rob Edwards" Subject: RE: [AVALON] To tour or not to tour I was told a few months ago that Roxy Music had signed to the V2 label for 2001 then I saw a list of Roxy re-issues for this year. Who knows what will happen? As I say, my money is on another hits package though I would be more than happy to be proved wrong. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 27 January 2001 12:21 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] To tour or not to tour Are we really sure that there is no new Roxy album?? In a message dated 27/01/01 12:18:28 GMT Standard Time, robedwards@tinyworld.co.uk writes: << I think it's great news! I wouldn't be surprised if another Greatest Hits was put out, might be TV advertised! It's a guess but an educated one. Rob Edwards >> ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:17:31 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] regret to inform Robert E. Lee has been dead for 130+ years. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:26:45 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] To tour or not to tour Roxy Music: The Later Years perhaps? In a message dated 27/01/01 12:45:57 GMT Standard Time, robedwards@tinyworld.co.uk writes: << I was told a few months ago that Roxy Music had signed to the V2 label for 2001 then I saw a list of Roxy re-issues for this year. Who knows what will happen? As I say, my money is on another hits package though I would be more than happy to be proved wrong. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:33:30 +0100 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] R.I.P. Who is this ghost??? Is he signing a deal? dan - -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Colleen Matan" A: Data invio: sabato 27 gennaio 2001 14.17 Oggetto: [AVALON] regret to inform > Robert E. Lee has been dead for 130+ years. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:44:41 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sunday Times > Hi, > > I've been asked by a reporter from Sunday Times (!) too comment on Roxy's > reforming for tomorrows paper. !!! Watch out, Jim Lawn, here comes Kicki. >This is what I wrote him: > > > I find myself wondering at the reasons behind this. Lack of money? > A reunion after 18 years can of course be great fun, a nostalgia fest for > the die hard fans who'll be moved to tears (certainly me!) upon hearing the > old songs perfomed by the boys again, but there's always the risk that the > whole affair will be uncomfortably pathetic. > But Roxy Music was always about style, and hopefully they can pull this one > off too. The Roxy numbers were handled with great care during Bryan Ferry's > As Time Goes By tour last year. > If they _do_ go on tour, I hope they'll have the decency to include Paul > "The Great" Thompson in the lineup. true, but not likely to happen. i assume that since his name was not mentioned in the initial releases, he won't be a part of the reunion. same for mr. jobson. > I don't know if he'll actually use this in his piece, but keep your eyes > open :-) and be sure to post the piece! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:53:27 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] regret to inform The Confederate general yes, but not the eponymous lawyer (?) whose name appears in 'Virginia Plain.' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: [AVALON] regret to inform > Robert E. Lee has been dead for 130+ years. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:57:37 +0100 From: "C.H.Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus Colleen, I understand you regard a reunion as not neccessary, which is certainly not a too-rare opinion (no Joan-of-Arc points here). But if you're against it, why bother to see any shows? Isn't it a bit destructive to attend a concert with expectations so low? Do they have any chance to make you change your mind? I think it a slightly cynical attitude to on the one hand hold a Roxy reunion in very low regard and then on the other hand participate in it by visiting the concert? You're probably right that financial aspects play a role - but then, wouldn't it have been better to reform Roxy in the mid-nineties right after the relative commercial failure of the artistically standout Mamouna? It would have been a TBSB-Manifesto step back then, but in my mind, it is not now. There's a wider range of contributing factors I believe, and I'm a bit sad (in spite of being well aware of the capitalist exploitation of the music "market") that hardly anyone seems to consider they'd finally love to make some music together again. If the material they play turns out very well, why not??? Christian - ---------- >Von: Colleen Matan >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] sartus resartus >Datum: Fre, 26. Jan 2001 23:06 Uhr > >This tour is not about artistic integrity or looking to the future. It's >a glance backward. For all the babble on this list about how Mr. Ferry is >on the brink of incredible success because of how _As Time Goes By_ sold >and because he sold out a lot of shows in the UK and in a few select >places around the globe, the decision is now to retreat. It's an exercise >in nostalgia and I can't somehow but see it as an admission of defeat. > >Frankly, I find it rather disappointing news. It's like Mr. Ferry has >given up. Or it's like someone has given up on him. And let's pray the >reunion tour goes worldwide instead of just being confined to a small area >for if not the pathos of the scene is quite marked. > >For everyone bleating about or begging for a new album--we got the >official word: it ain't going to happen. Can't risk it financially or >artistically. And frankly, I don't think that it is necessarily such a >great loss that there won't be a reunion album. Some bones are better >left buried, I think. > >> paying quite a lot for tickets. is there any other members think the >> same ...... > >Me. But I'm probably the only other person who will speak what is >considered heresy in public. > >(And no, it doesn't mean I wouldn't consider going to see one of these >shows. But I would go with my expectations appropriately lowered.) > >Colleen >P.S. I have the list of folks interested in a London meet-up next weekend >when I am in town--would anyone like to be added to the list? (venue soon >to be decided) > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:23:06 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: [AVALON] Reunion set list? Hey, remember when Manzanera.com was conducting that poll a year or so ago about what songs Roxy should do in a hypothetical reunion tour? I just checked the site, and here are the results "as of January 14, 2000." Personally, I'd pick Casanova over Prairie Rose (and move it way up the list). 1. Mother of Pearl 2. Virginia Plain 3. Both Ends Burning 4. Out of the Blue 5. If There was Something (sic) 6. In Every Dream Home a Heartache 7. Do the Strand 8. The Thrill of it All 9. Avalon 10. Editions of You 11. A Song for Europe 12. Remake-Remodel 13. More Than This 14= Ladytron 14= Pyjamarama 16. Love is the Drug 17. Street Life 18. All I Want is You 19. Beauty Queen 20. Prairie Rose 21. Same Old Scene 22. Amazona 23. Sentimental Fool 24. The Main Thing ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:24:54 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, C.H.Soetemann wrote: > Colleen, I understand you regard a reunion as not neccessary, which is > certainly not a too-rare opinion (no Joan-of-Arc points here). But if > you're against it, why bother to see any shows? Isn't it a bit > destructive to attend a concert with expectations so low? Do they have > any chance to make you change your mind? I think it a slightly cynical > attitude to on the one hand hold a Roxy reunion in very low regard and > then on the other hand participate in it by visiting the concert? Christian, first I'd like to thank you for your reply--for asking questions in an interested, polite (albeit still pointed, which I appreciate) way, without descending to the usual ranting and name-calling which suffice for some of our peers when confronted with a differing opinion. Why bother to see any shows? I ask: how could I not attend? Because I'm a fan. Because I'm damn curious to see what it would be like. Because on this side of the pond I bet they'd play small venues. Because I'd like to see who turns up in the audience. Because I'd like to think there is room in this world--if not on this list--for a Doubting Thomas or two (after all, Thomas did end up believing). Is it destructive to attend with my expectations so low? Those are mostly your words, not mine. In fact, I think the harm comes with attending with expectations too high--because it isn't going to be like the first time you saw Roxy Music. You're older, you have had (or most of you have) your first sexual experience, you're a bit more wise to the ways of the world, you've learned to stop drinking before you fall down (OK, so maybe some things have not changed). But it's not going to be like that again. It's not going to be like the boots and the concert videos. That is not to say it might not be very good indeed--I am sure technically it will. But, believe it or not, I worry for these reasons and for the folks who will be disappointed because they are expecting something different and something I think cannot necessarily be recaptured. Can they change my mind? Of course. I often say, and I am sure that I have said it here, that my first impulse is to resist everything. But I am known for changing my mind. And in this case, believe me, I would only be too happy to change my mind. And I don't think that my expectations or my hopes in any way preclude my attending one of the shows. After all it is written that a cat may look at a king. I'm sorry if I sound so cynical, but how cynical is the idea of the reunion? I mean we get fed all of this stuff about how thrilled Mr. Ferry is with the ATGB band and how he's writing with them and maybe recording with them. Then we are told Roxy is reforming, no album, just pay your money this summer and come out to see them. The Powers That Be are only too happy to use this list or people on this list as their promotional mouthpiece/s, but, unlike other lists I am on, they don't provide any background information or initiate or participate in conversations. They just appear when they have a product to push. So, yes, I'm suspicious and I'm cynical about this announcement. > You're probably right that financial aspects play a role - but then, > wouldn't it have been better to reform Roxy in the mid-nineties right > after the relative commercial failure of the artistically standout > Mamouna? It would have been a TBSB-Manifesto step back then, but in my > mind, it is not now. There's a wider range of contributing factors I I think the cash cow value of a Roxy reunion has stayed more or less stable over the years. Especially in the absence of new material, this tour is going to attract a specific subset of music fans and very little beyond that except maybe for a few curious onlookers. Maybe it was worth more 10 years ago because X number of this subset have died. > believe, and I'm a bit sad (in spite of being well aware of the > capitalist exploitation of the music "market") that hardly anyone > seems to consider they'd finally love to make some music together > again. If the material they play turns out very well, why not??? I guess for me there is a qualitative, if not metaphysical difference, between "making" music and "playing" music. If the band members had spent time together writing songs and making a new record they were going to take out on the road, I'd still have some reservations, but at least it'd be a creative act. But basically they're going to rehearse for a while, then hit the road. It'll be just like Re-Make/Re-Model, only a few of the original members will be in the band this time. I mean, if the Spice Girls announced a reunion tour without a new album, tell me that you'd all would not be squawking about how cynical and money-driven it was. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:27:44 -0000 From: "Rob Edwards" Subject: [AVALON] New Roxy Fans OK! This tour/reunion thing! I see it in a very positive way to be honest. Yes of course there might be an element of a 'cash-in'. There also might be elements of Bryan, Phil and Andy getting on and having a good time and enjoying being in a band again (of course with Paul!). I see the tour as big news for fans, both old and new. Yes, this might promote and expose Roxy to new fans! Finally some people will hear music that we have been banging on about for, in my case 27 years (!!). Think about that, new fans. Don't get me wrong I'm not stupid enough to think that Roxy will have No.1 albums again........or will they? No. But! I'm going to enjoy it! I look forward to debating at AMA. I'll be on my own so please say hello to me! (Sad!) Rob Edwards. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 06:40:21 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] sartus resartus At 09:24 AM 01/27/2001 -0500, you wrote: >It'll be just like Re-Make/Re-Model, only a few of the >original members will be in the band this time. I think you're underestimating the effect of being off the road for nearly 20 years. Performing together again after all this time may very well spark a lot nervous energy and fond memories in the guys. There's no telling how that energy will translate to the show. What you're saying may well apply to a second follow-up tour if one materializes, but I tend to imagine that there will be quite a bit of fire and enthusiasm to this reunion. - -Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:28:28 -0000 From: "Rob Edwards" Subject: [AVALON] Jealous Guy @ No. 1 I found this on The Guardian Web site. Sorry if it's been on before though I don't remember it. Rob Edwards Bryan Ferry Roxy Music were at No 1 for two weeks in February 1981 with their cover of John Lennon's 'Jealous Guy'. We were playing a big concert in Germany a couple of weeks after John Lennon had died, so I just said: 'Let's do "Jealous Guy" live as a tribute.' The response was so overwhelming that we got back, recorded it and put it out as a single. We'd had No 1 albums - we always thought of ourselves as an albums rather than a singles band - and we did have singles in the top five, but it was our first No 1 single. Having a No 1 didn't really change anything. It was great but it really had more to do with the British obsession with lists than a life-enhancing experience. Plus, of course, it means I get rung up every three years or so for a list like this. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:01:54 +0100 From: M Gus Subject: Re[2]: [AVALON] regret to inform >The Confederate general yes, but not the eponymous lawyer (?) whose name >appears in 'Virginia Plain.' Yes, that's the one I meant ofcourse :) I'm don't know much of the Roxy biography, so maybe the mr. Lee in the song was a figment of Bryan's imagination, or he meant the general, but I thought there could be a slim chance of Bryan's actual management being on the Avalon list? As I said, I'm a pretty gullible person, I believe the vegetarian hamburgers they sell at McDonalds are really made of chicken-flowers :) Gus - --- "Sweetly reminiscent, something mother used to bake..." -David Bowie http://www.cs.vu.nl/~gagussek gagussek@cs.vu.nl - --- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:18:43 -0000 From: "Richard Jones" Subject: RE: [AVALON] BBC News news - Roxy Music to reform >From: "Guy Lawley" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: RE: [AVALON] BBC News news - Roxy Music to reform >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:07:54 -0000 > >Richard, I don't think anyone has thanked you for being the first one to >pass on the good news to Avalonia, so on behalf of all of us (or those who >welcome the news, anyway)... thanks!!!!! >Guy Thank you! It was a bit strange as I was working lateish at work and dipped into the BBC new site because I was bored. I actually checked the entertainment site for news of Courtney Cox's split with her husband! So I was very surprised when I saw the Roxy news. I checked and saw that it had been posted an hour earlier so I thought it was worth passin to the list. I think I must be a bit of a journalist at heart as I do feel thrilled to have been the first to report the news! I am not sure this has been said before but I think this has been been prompted by Bryan's near fatal plummet to the earth. Surely this would prompt most people to get on and do what they have been thinking of doing for years? Do you think we might hear Jerry as a guest backing singer on LST? I don't think we need be too concerned about their motives. The fact that BBC Entertainment News think that it worth reporting, and our flurry of emails too, demonstrate that there is a big interest in a Roxy. I don't think we need view it as a revival either. I'm sure they will do the hits but it'll also showcase Phil and Andy's work so the event will be all the richer because of it. And I for one, would like to see Paul Thompson as the drummer. I've always felt a bit sorry for him. This is probably because the Roxy songs I love from my early teenage years are the thumping songs such as Editions of You in which he thumped to such great effect. Perhaps it would be a bit sentimental but, as I settle into my forties, I've learned to love sentiment. A leopard skin shirt as well? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:24:19 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: Re[2]: [AVALON] regret to inform oh, i know you meant the right one. i'm not sure colleen did, though. but i doubt our mr. lee is 'the' mr. lee. off to mcdonalds for a veggie-burger.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Gus" To: "Victor Hastings" Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: Re[2]: [AVALON] regret to inform > >The Confederate general yes, but not the eponymous lawyer (?) whose name > >appears in 'Virginia Plain.' > > Yes, that's the one I meant ofcourse :) I'm don't know much of the > Roxy biography, so maybe the mr. Lee in the song was a figment of > Bryan's imagination, or he meant the general, but I thought there > could be a slim chance of Bryan's actual management being on the > Avalon list? > As I said, I'm a pretty gullible person, I believe the vegetarian > hamburgers they sell at McDonalds are really made of > chicken-flowers :) > > Gus > > --- > "Sweetly reminiscent, something mother used to bake..." -David Bowie > http://www.cs.vu.nl/~gagussek gagussek@cs.vu.nl > --- > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:25:16 +0000 From: Michael Hill Subject: [AVALON] Pockets of Negativity I cannot understand why, after all these years of hoping and waiting, the news of a Roxy reunion has caused such a widely divided range of opinions. When I found out, I almost wet myself in excitement!! We have nothing to fear, folks. Bryan is now at his most vocally assured and confident, and has sounded fabulous all through the ATGB tour. Phil and Andy are superb musicians, improving all the time(+ Paul, hoping he'll be there?), and as for the music, be patient! The long awaited material Bryan has been hording over many a long winter may resurface for the tour (I hope!). Bryan has expressed his interest in writing with Andy and Phil again, and has apparently done so recently, along with Eno, so with any luck, we'll hear this stuff. As for the Roxy material, who wouldn't want to hear Roxy do Editions of You for the new millennium? They haven't sold out, they are simply a group of highly successful friends who want to rekindle their magic as a group. That, I feel, is the reason for the tour. They will surely write more stuff together, and entertain audiences young and old with all their material. It's about time the <> generation got a taste of real style! Let's all support this Roxy reunion, and hope that they achieve the huge success they deserve, and remind everyone just how influential and important they are. Be positive! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:31:27 -0000 From: "Laura Shadbolt" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Reform I'd just like to add my contribution to this. WOOOHOOOO!! Thankyou very much for your time ;-) Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:51:31 +0100 From: Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pepperrell) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reunion set list? I don't thing Bryan Ferry would have the breath and strength to sing all of these in one show ! Fantastic news, what a birthday present ! Cheers, Stephen Jim Rosencutter schrieb: > Hey, remember when Manzanera.com was conducting that poll a year or so > ago about what songs Roxy should do in a hypothetical reunion tour? I > just checked the site, and here are the results "as of January 14, > 2000." Personally, I'd pick Casanova over Prairie Rose (and move it way > up the list). > > 1. Mother of Pearl > 2. Virginia Plain > 3. Both Ends Burning > 4. Out of the Blue > 5. If There was Something (sic) > 6. In Every Dream Home a Heartache > 7. Do the Strand > 8. The Thrill of it All > 9. Avalon > 10. Editions of You > 11. A Song for Europe > 12. Remake-Remodel > 13. More Than This > 14= Ladytron > 14= Pyjamarama > 16. Love is the Drug > 17. Street Life > 18. All I Want is You > 19. Beauty Queen > 20. Prairie Rose > 21. Same Old Scene > 22. Amazona > 23. Sentimental Fool > 24. The Main Thing > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:53:50 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pockets of Negativity I agree! Sorry for causing any dissension in the group. LST! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Hill To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: [AVALON] Pockets of Negativity > I cannot understand why, after all these years of hoping and waiting, the news > of a Roxy reunion has caused such a widely divided range of opinions. When I > found out, I almost wet myself in excitement!! We have nothing to fear, folks. > Bryan is now at his most vocally assured and confident, and has sounded > fabulous all through the ATGB tour. Phil and Andy are superb musicians, > improving all the time(+ Paul, hoping he'll be there?), and as for the music, > be patient! The long awaited material Bryan has been hording over many a long > winter may resurface for the tour (I hope!). Bryan has expressed his interest > in writing with Andy and Phil again, and has apparently done so recently, > along with Eno, so with any luck, we'll hear this stuff. As for the Roxy > material, who wouldn't want to hear Roxy do Editions of You for the new > millennium? They haven't sold out, they are simply a group of highly > successful friends who want to rekindle their magic as a group. That, I feel, > is the reason for the tour. They will surely write more stuff together, and > entertain audiences young and old with all their material. It's about time the > <> generation got a taste of real style! Let's all support this > Roxy reunion, and hope that they achieve the huge success they deserve, and > remind everyone just how influential and important they are. Be positive! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:12:32 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pockets of Negativity In a message dated 27/01/01 16:41:41 GMT Standard Time, michaelhill@ecosse.net writes: > < news > of a Roxy reunion has caused such a widely divided range of opinions.>> > > Exactly Michael, and if "newsgroup troll" Colleen and co. aren't happy > about it, then simply don't fuckin' go to the gigs, stay at home and listen > to those crap US Roxy tribute bands The Cars, Talking Heads, etc. and > pretend you are really hip and arty, remember to give yourself a pat on the > back for not going to see the reformed "sold out" Roxy. > Also please stop hitting us with negative vibes you are wasting it for the > real fans. > > JF ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #30 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest