From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #6 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, January 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] are you lonesome tonight ["Glen Lehman" ] Re[2]: [AVALON] Grammy? [M Gussekloo ] [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV ["Han Snijders" ] Re: [AVALON] Grammy? [Julialiva@aol.com] [AVALON] New BF/RM release info [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV [Julialiva@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV ["C.H.Soetemann" ] [AVALON] Re : Bry on German TV ["Reecey" ] RE: [AVALON] Bry on German TV ["Andy Mol" ] Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water ["Prince of Happiness" ] RE: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] First Time ["Prince of Happiness" Subject: [AVALON] are you lonesome tonight Lots of Japanese import stuff at eil.com today. (They have/had the extended Taxi album with the wonderful and extraordinary bonus track---Are You lonesome Tonight-----would love to hear that live at the Grammys with Andy McKay again).. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:58:40 +0100 From: M Gussekloo Subject: Re[2]: [AVALON] Grammy? >It is not the image America currently has. It is the image you have >of America. There is a difference. Well, allright. It helps when you explain it this way. It felt a bit uncomfortable seeing you throw all that Devillish Sarcasm in reply to a post that wasn't controversial at all (in my neo-teenage Europian opinion, anyway. But then, I dispose of Marylin Manson as being non-controversial...) I'm sorry if you hear the American-hamburger-idea too often, but I guess it proves that it's not only the image I have of America (it's changing, it's changing!), but the image America currently has in some parts of Europe. The recent elections didn't help either... :) But I realize this is all trivial and quite off-topic. Let's just hope mr. Ferry gets a chance of doing something at the tables at the Grammy gig. Gus ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:42:42 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV Hi Avalonians, Americans, Canadians, Scottish, Germans etc, etc. I wish you all the very best for 2001 ! I've heard from a good source that they're working out a Roxytour for may, June and July this year. I'll wait and see if it really happens. As Chris wrote: I believe it when I read in the Melody Maker: you see what happened with that . They immediately stopped the presses. Must say that I'm only really interested in a reunion if they make a new album. If it's only a greatest hits tour I think they make a big mistake. A new Bryan Ferry album with selfpenned songs and a tour as good as the last one is a far better careermove. Tonight on Germany 1 (ARD) 20.15-22.15 Goldene Europe 2000, the show in which Bryan gets his lifetime achievement award. Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 12:05:44 +0100 From: "C.H.Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV I can see that point. But then, it should be no problem to take some of the songs Bryan has written or co-written over the last few years and record them with Roxy. And maybe he will be spured on by working with Messieurs Mackay and Manzanera again and be more spontaneous in lyrics writing. All scepticism about reunions is understandable. The Velvets' reunion must have divided opinions in a similar way, but remember Bryan mentioned he would like the band to play some of the lesser-known songs. It could have a set-list like this: Hula Kula (intro music) No Strange Delight Grey Lagoons Triptych End Of The Line Spin Me Round Just Like You The Bob (Medley) Strictly Confidential Psalm (Maggie Thatcher appearing as special guest at the end saying "A public tube is MARXISM!!!") The Loyang Tractor Factory (Mackay's solo spot) Europe 80-1 (Manzanera's solo spot) Lover To Turn You On Running Wild Serenade Would You Believe? Sultanesque (15-minute psych freak out version ending with each other manipulating each others manipulation) The Pride And The Pain The Numberer Dance With Life Christian (no that's my name, not the last song...) - ---------- >Von: "Han Snijders" >An: >Betreff: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV >Datum: Sam, 6. Jan 2001 11:42 Uhr > >Must say that I'm only really interested in a reunion if they make a new >album. If it's only a greatest hits tour I think they make a big mistake. A >new Bryan Ferry album with selfpenned songs and a tour as good as the last >one is a far better careermove. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 09:05:41 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV In a message dated 01/06/2001 6:12:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, soeteman@uni-bremen.de writes: > It could have a > set-list like this: > > Hula Kula (intro music) > No Strange Delight > Grey Lagoons > Triptych > End Of The Line > Spin Me Round > Just Like You > The Bob (Medley) > Strictly Confidential > Psalm (Maggie Thatcher appearing as special guest at the end saying "A > public tube is MARXISM!!!") > The Loyang Tractor Factory (Mackay's solo spot) > Europe 80-1 (Manzanera's solo spot) > Lover > To Turn You On > Running Wild > Serenade > Would You Believe? > Sultanesque (15-minute psych freak out version ending with each other > manipulating each others manipulation) > > > The Pride And The Pain > The Numberer > Dance With Life > I have to believe that Christian is pulling our collective leg here. This is quite possibly the worst set-list in history. I seem to remember Roxy as a rock band quite notable for the energy level of their live performances. Storming the stage would not be an inappropriate description. This set list is so high in lassitude that everyone would be nodding off by End of the Line, if not sooner. Maybe we save this set-list for 20 years from now when Bry and the Boys are playing Vegas 32 weeks a year, 6 shows a night and they no longer have the energy to play the "good stuff". Arnie Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:15:23 +0000 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Grammy? >===== Original Message From avalon@smoe.org ===== O.K. folks, let's just get things straight here. Firstly, my babblings last night were rather strong, I shall admit, but I do believe things have been taken just ever so massively out of context here. I am not so misinformed as to take in the stereotyped image of hamburger-worshipping 'Yankees.' I value people more highly than that. Secondly, I have been to America, on several occasions, which negates the need for me to slob around watching Dallas to fill me in on American culture. I am a keen sociology/politics student, and am not stupid enough to undervalue the USA, to the extent some of the replies to my post have insisted. I am actually quite upset indeed. Had I been in a better mood last night, maybe I would have mentioned my love of America, how I must concede my appreciation of aspects of culture over there, and certainly music. But what I failed to say in my poorly-worded post was simply that many awards ceremonies in America play to mainstream mediocrity, and I hoped that somehow Bryan could change that with forthcoming works and exposure. Therefore, I have not contradicted myself, (I stubbornly insist) and have only succeeded in upsetting myself. Give me a break folks, I'm only a teenager! But let it be known, a very informed and intelligent one, regardless of other opinions. I am not trying to be boastful, but simply trying to hold on to a bit of dignity, in case I am accused of being a typical teen. I do apologize to all the Americans out there, but I feel I have been misjudged and misinterpreted. I really don't have a negative view of America at all. I love it. But my problem was not with the public, but with the insular nature of the American industry. I just hope in future Bryan is given the chance to have his work judged by the public in America more often. And I hope I don't cause any more problems on this list. Now, finally, I am not stupid, so lay off me, please! I feel rotten now, when I really didn't expect anything like this. Do forgive me, you have read me wrong. And although you may think it, I am not so ignorant as to believe 275 million people are total vegetables. God Bless America, and God help my poor heart! P.S, to Gus, thanks for that post, it makes more sense than mine! Uncomfortable was the perfect word there! >>It is not the image America currently has. It is the image you have >>of America. There is a difference. > >Well, allright. It helps when you explain it this way. It felt a bit >uncomfortable seeing you throw all that Devillish Sarcasm in reply to >a post that wasn't controversial at all (in my neo-teenage Europian >opinion, anyway. But then, I dispose of Marylin Manson as being >non-controversial...) >I'm sorry if you hear the American-hamburger-idea too often, but I >guess it proves that it's not only the image I have of America (it's >changing, it's changing!), but the image America currently has in some parts of Europe. >The recent elections didn't help either... :) > >But I realize this is all trivial and quite off-topic. Let's just >hope mr. Ferry gets a chance of doing something at the tables at the >Grammy gig. > >Gus > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Get your free @ecosse.net account http://www.ecosse.net Scotland's Free Internet Service Provider * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:13:01 EST From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Grammy? In einer eMail vom 05.01.01 23:17:56 (MEZ) Mitteleuropdische Zeit schreibt gusart@casema.net: << In America a majority SEEMS to be very entertained by what we, Roxy Fanatics, call "things without style or substance" (such as Britney Spears, Jerry Springer, etc.) >> Would you call Robbie Williams, the Spice Girls or Oasis stylish and with substance? What a useless discussion, however, being german and neutral I've heard a lot of american music (espsecially black music!) that had a big influence on music in Europe, unfortunately some of the white music did not really make in their homecountry, f.e. the Velvet Underground, but what about the pre-punk-era incl. Talking Heads, Television, Iggy Pop and many more. And what about the Doors? Elvis Presley, big in the States, big everywhre, extremely influental over here! Isn't Ferry (and especially the last album) ever so influenced by american musical-standards. I wouldn't completely agree with his taste in music but I think he's more tolerant to agree on his influences than some of the Avalons like to admit it. And concerning commercial aspects - the States invented ROCK-music, Britain (as a follow-up, POP-music, so what for does POP stand - populaire!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:15:32 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] New BF/RM release info Hi, I just received an e-mail from Key Mail order (www.keymailorder.com) giving details about the forthcoming BF and Roxy releases, it says..... ROXY MUSIC - "VINTAGE" Scheduled for release on or about January 12th is the 2nd CD of material from the Musicladen Performances. This totally unreleased album, includes material from 1974 & '75 and a solo performance by Bryan Ferry Of Bob Dylans' "Hard Rains Gonna Fall". Other material sourced from MLE 10 and Beat Club Workshop. Specially packaged to accommodate the Roxy album cover trend using specially commissioned photographs. Tracks:Out Of The Blue, Pyjamarama, Mother Of Pearl, Amazona,Pslam, A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall, If It Takes All Night We are offering this CD to our "Priority Clients" for #10.99* *Inc P&P (UK Only) BRYAN FERRY Live In Paris Recorded On the "As Time Goes By" Tour at the "Le Grand Rex" in Paris, France, March 2000 This DVD, as well as the 16 tracks listed, also includes a complete discography - available @ #19.99 The Way You Look Tonight/Love Me Or Leave Me/Smoke Gets In Your Eyes/Chance Meeting/ Casanova/Where Or When/Bittersweet/Out Of The Blue/The Only Face /Oh Yeah/You Do Something To Me/Just One Of Those Things/Avalon/Jealous Guy/Let's Stick Together & Love Is The Drug............ There is also loads of back catalogue stuff for RM/BF and solo releases. JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 10:36:34 EST From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV In einer eMail vom 06.01.01 12:12:06 (MEZ) Mitteleuropdische Zeit schreibt soeteman@uni-bremen.de: << Bryan mentioned he would like the band to play some of the lesser-known songs. >> I doubt he would reform Roxy Music for that particular reason; he might likes the idea to top his solo-success with a Roxy-revival; I agree with Han, if it's only for nostalgic reasons, well, I'm not into it, rather have him doing nice and strange solo-stuff again; he's got the talent, he's got the audience, such strong followers, so what is he waiting for!? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 19:52:38 +0100 From: "C.H.Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV You're right, of course, in that I am reaching out over the ocean to pull your leg. I'd regard this set-list as most unlikely, though not really that bad (if so, I would have added Ain't That So, for example). And righto, a lot of it is quite slow. But to me the tracks are very good for the most part. Cross out the Maggie Thatcher bit, if you like. But Strictly Confidential, Psalm et al. are wonderful songs, aren't they? Of course, a 15-minute version of Sultanesque is not everybody's cup of tea (as would be a 15-second version) but I'd love Roxy to drone. I suppose if they "only" played a greatest hits set it would be less enjoyable than my little pulling-others-legs list. OK, maybe I'd leave for a mineral water during The Loyang Tractor Factory, but maybe not. Christian P.S.: I'm going to get a videotape out now to record the broadcasting of the award to poor old Bryan... - ---------- >Von: ASchulberg@aol.com >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV >Datum: Sam, 6. Jan 2001 15:05 Uhr > >In a message dated 01/06/2001 6:12:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, >soeteman@uni-bremen.de writes: > > >> It could have a >> set-list like this: >> >> Hula Kula (intro music) >> No Strange Delight >> Grey Lagoons >> Triptych >> End Of The Line >> Spin Me Round >> Just Like You >> The Bob (Medley) >> Strictly Confidential >> Psalm (Maggie Thatcher appearing as special guest at the end saying "A >> public tube is MARXISM!!!") >> The Loyang Tractor Factory (Mackay's solo spot) >> Europe 80-1 (Manzanera's solo spot) >> Lover >> To Turn You On >> Running Wild >> Serenade >> Would You Believe? >> Sultanesque (15-minute psych freak out version ending with each other >> manipulating each others manipulation) >> >> >> The Pride And The Pain >> The Numberer >> Dance With Life >> > >I have to believe that Christian is pulling our collective leg here. This is >quite possibly the worst set-list in history. I seem to remember Roxy as a >rock band quite notable for the energy level of their live performances. >Storming the stage would not be an inappropriate description. > >This set list is so high in lassitude that everyone would be nodding off by >End of the Line, if not sooner. > >Maybe we save this set-list for 20 years from now when Bry and the Boys are >playing Vegas 32 weeks a year, 6 shows a night and they no longer have the >energy to play the "good stuff". > >Arnie > >Arnie > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 13:04:31 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Avalonia: Love it or leave it I won't add much to the US vs THEM thread going on but I will say that it has produced some very funny exchanges. I love it. Collen: You go girl! Just a little pinch between your cheek and jaw before you oogle THE Rock? How about a beer and a shot of whiskey? HA! :))) Michael Hill: If they just pan the camera to Bryan in the audience, I will be happy. I think he should go to the show. Yes, the "mainstream" will win, but I guess it's a good sign that SOMEONE/ANYONE noticed ATGB. I'm sure when his name is read that there will be smathering of applause and recognition from the "real musicians" in the audience. We smug, select, very tasteful, and all knowing fans in the Americas will be screaming at home (you too Collen- for different reasons of course :))) ) Gus: I think Dutch people are cool. Of course I only had two very brief sojourns to the Netherlands last year so I have yet to have a negative view of anything Dutch outside of the herring (sorry) and the bus system in Amsterdam ( I guess I should say nothing since I rode around for free!!!). As for the soft drugs, uh......uh......uh.....hmmm. I forgot what I was going to say. I'll have to return to get more enchancements to finish my train of thought. Rob: Okay. Although with all the snow that we have gotten recently in Chicago, New Zealand looks like a place I would not might mind having a second residence at. Rob de la Cruz: Hockey and Celene Dion. Did we get a choice in this? :)) Hendrix is playing the Star Bangled Banner in the background, "W" is on the tele, and I'm waving my freak flag high. Jas ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:24:30 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water Re: Americans The Beatles were the most famous, commercially successful and influential rock band of all time. They pioneered most of what rock and roll is today. Yet, they were influenced by 'American' acts; Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly, Elvis Presley, Carl Perkins, Chuck Berry etc. But as the year of 1965 rolled, the group met one of their heroes, Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan said bluntly to them that their music was great, but they had nothing to say. This crushed John and the Fab Four immediately set to work on Rubber Soul. It still had many of the kinds of songs that are prevalent on their earlier albums, but also had some that were less like copies of 50s songs and a few with a message (Nowhere Man, Think For Yourself). After it's success, they immediately followed up with the similar, but more outstanding album, Revolver. A little later, Paul McCartney's favorite album came out. It was called Pet Sounds and it was by the Beach Boys. This was the influence for what was and still is the greatest and most influential album in Rock and Roll history, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. This is a Roxy music newsgroup. I just wanted to point out that without us, you Roxy Fanatics would be writing to a Skiffle forum right now! Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:09:39 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: [AVALON] Bry on German TV Getting impatient now. An hour into this awards show, and I'm still waiting for Bry to come on and mime something. Please not LST ! Sultanesque, perhaps ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:12:14 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: [AVALON] Re : Bry on German TV Working at the mo, but have a monitor to my left, tuned to the ARD Channel Germany, and have spied Bry - doing the songs 'live' it seems, with the regular touring Band : Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, and a Jealous Guy/Let's Stick Together 'combo' number. Reecey... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:17:19 +0100 From: "Andy Mol" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bry on German TV Though: LST, but not mimed! Bryan was the only artist performing live (Smoke gets in your eyes, Jealous Guy and Let's stick together). With the complete band except for Rosie Wetters, for as far as I could see. - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]namens Reecey Verzonden: zaterdag 6 januari 2001 21:10 Aan: avalon@smoe.org Onderwerp: [AVALON] Bry on German TV Getting impatient now. An hour into this awards show, and I'm still waiting for Bry to come on and mime something. Please not LST ! Sultanesque, perhaps ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:09:20 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water >This is a Roxy music newsgroup. I just wanted to point >out that without us, you Roxy Fanatics would be >writing to a Skiffle forum right now! Love Roxy Music, but it wasn't for you guys I would be in a Velvet Underground, Stooges, or MC5 forum. Oh...wait. I am. The Prince of Happiness "Slowly descend from heaven Anyway we turn we win"-Japan, "Alien" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 23:21:33 -0000 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Bry on German TV Yes - most of the usual suspects were present (but no Rosie). Enrico and the rest of the boys seemed to be having a good time! As far as I could see Bryan was the only one of the award winners who sang "live". A good performance - he obviously likes those three songs (even though he didn't write any of them they were standards on last year's tour). It would have been good to have heard him perform one of his own compositions as well. Still, a well deserved award - disappointing that he didn't give an acceptance speech though! So, America honours him with a Grammy nomination, and Germany gives him a "Lifetime Achievement" award. "Brits", wake up! Jane - ----- Original Message ----- From: Reecey To: Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re : Bry on German TV > have spied Bry - doing the songs 'live' it seems, > with the regular touring Band : > Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, and a Jealous Guy/Let's Stick Together 'combo' > number. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:03:24 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : Bry on German TV For those of us without access to cable or satellite it was the normal dismal fare from the terrestrial stations, except for a rather enjoyable rundown of the all-time top 100 singles on Channel 4, interspersed with interviews. All the usual suspects were there, and I must admit it was rather fun viewing all the hits from my formative years again. But when the countdown got to 24 (Louis Armstrong's Wonderful World) a familiar face appeared - Enrico Tomasso. It seems that Satchmo was playing a residency at a Working Men's Club in Batley, Yorkshire (seems unlikely, but true) and Enrico, who was about 7 at this time when the song peaked, and already a trumpet player himself, was taken by his musician father to the airport to greet Armstrong. Satchmo was apparently enchanted by the boy Enrico, listening to him perform, praising him and bowing to kiss his hand when he left, all recorded in photographs. He later wrote to Enrico, and Enrico rather poignantly read out Armstrong's letter on the show, appearing visibly moved as he did so. It was a nice little vignette. The piece described Tomasso as 'now one of Britain's top jazz trumpeters' I'm still a little surprised to hear Enrico's distinctly English tones. When Reecey and I approached him in Paris he smiled broadly and gestured in the manner of a man who spoke not a bean of English - cheeky little monkey... Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jane Collard Sent: 06 January 2001 23:22 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Bry on German TV Yes - most of the usual suspects were present (but no Rosie). Enrico and the rest of the boys seemed to be having a good time! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:38:34 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV My impression is that any potential tour would be his current touring ensemble augmented by one or more Roxy personnel. I suspect recording was a possibility at one time. I don't think it is now. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Han Snijders Sent: 06 January 2001 10:43 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Roxyreunion/Bryan on TV Hi Avalonians, Americans, Canadians, Scottish, Germans etc, etc. I wish you all the very best for 2001 ! I've heard from a good source that they're working out a Roxytour for may, June and July this year. I'll wait and see if it really happens. As Chris wrote: I believe it when I read in the Melody Maker: you see what happened with that . They immediately stopped the presses. Must say that I'm only really interested in a reunion if they make a new album. If it's only a greatest hits tour I think they make a big mistake. A new Bryan Ferry album with selfpenned songs and a tour as good as the last one is a far better careermove. Tonight on Germany 1 (ARD) 20.15-22.15 Goldene Europe 2000, the show in which Bryan gets his lifetime achievement award. Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:03:19 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water Oh yeah! I forgot about Velvet Underground. They influenced everybody. But, I don't believe Cale was an American. He was born in Garnant, South Wales. Chalk one up for the pasty-faced Limey with bad teeth! JK >Love Roxy Music, but it wasn't for you guys I would be in a Velvet Underground, Stooges, or MC5 forum. Oh...wait. I am. ===== Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 22:34:08 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water >Oh yeah! I forgot about Velvet Underground. They >influenced everybody. But, I don't believe Cale was an >American. He was born in Garnant, South Wales. Chalk >one up for the pasty-faced Limey with bad teeth! > >JK *sniff, wipes away tear from eye* I love that guy. Wish he stayed with the VU for the long haul. He was the experimenter of the bunch. Produced the Stooges first album too...even if Iggy says that Funhouse was a better representation of what the Stooges were about. All in all I think all of these connections render the whole "trans-Atlantic rivalry/who-influenced-who-more" arguements pretty moot. It's all rather incestuous. Let's face it, in the music industry, shit floats. A lot of good alternative bands will never be heard by people outside the scenes that they originate in. The Grammy's category of "alternative" is a load of crap. It's more like a catch-all category for bands that didn't get a lot of company support in publicity but still managed to sell enough to get noticed. It's also a weak representation of what's going on in the American music scene. It's a shame that music lovers in Europe don't get to hear much about good bands(well ok, bands that I like) like The Makers, the Murder City Devils, Cobra Verde, the Donnas, the Cruxshadows, or the Changelings. I'm just as frustrated that excellent stuff in Europe, Japan, Australia, and anywhere else don't make it over here. Instead we get the Spice Girls shoved down our throats in America while some bands like Pulp or Suede are practically forgotten. Win or lose on the Grammy night, I could care less what they say. I know that Ferry's the best of that bunch and their opinion matters very little to me. The Prince of Happiness "Slowly descend from heaven Anyway we turn we win"-Japan, "Alien" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:54:42 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water I appreciate your opinion and I'll have to seek out some of those bands. I always thought Ferry was unapproachable, but when I met him at a gig in So Cal, he was the nicest celebrity I ever met. Good luck on Grammy night. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Prince of Happiness To: Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water > >Oh yeah! I forgot about Velvet Underground. They > >influenced everybody. But, I don't believe Cale was an > >American. He was born in Garnant, South Wales. Chalk > >one up for the pasty-faced Limey with bad teeth! > > > >JK > *sniff, wipes away tear from eye* I love that guy. Wish he stayed with > the VU for the long haul. He was the experimenter of the bunch. Produced > the Stooges first album too...even if Iggy says that Funhouse was a better > representation of what the Stooges were about. All in all I think all of > these connections render the whole "trans-Atlantic > rivalry/who-influenced-who-more" arguements pretty moot. It's all rather > incestuous. > > Let's face it, in the music industry, shit floats. A lot of good > alternative bands will never be heard by people outside the scenes that they > originate in. The Grammy's category of "alternative" is a load of crap. > It's more like a catch-all category for bands that didn't get a lot of > company support in publicity but still managed to sell enough to get > noticed. > > It's also a weak representation of what's going on in the American > music scene. It's a shame that music lovers in Europe don't get to hear > much about good bands(well ok, bands that I like) like The Makers, the > Murder City Devils, Cobra Verde, the Donnas, the Cruxshadows, or the > Changelings. I'm just as frustrated that excellent stuff in Europe, Japan, > Australia, and anywhere else don't make it over here. Instead we get the > Spice Girls shoved down our throats in America while some bands like Pulp or > Suede are practically forgotten. > > Win or lose on the Grammy night, I could care less what they say. I > know that Ferry's the best of that bunch and their opinion matters very > little to me. > > > > The Prince of Happiness > "Slowly descend from heaven > Anyway we turn we win"-Japan, "Alien" > http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:05:00 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Big Noise From Across The Water >I appreciate your opinion and I'll have to seek out some of those bands. I >always thought Ferry was unapproachable, but when I met him at a gig in So >Cal, he was the nicest celebrity I ever met. Good luck on Grammy night. Thanks! I've thought of Ferry as an unapproachable type, but I'm glad to see that I've been proven wrong. The Prince of Happiness "I got a phone call from the sergeant yesterday he had a message from the good old U.S.A.: "Good grades, high I.Q., you're one terrific guy we'll let you push the buttons while the other people die."-The Mr. T Experience, "Marine Recruiter" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:29:46 -0600 From: Alex Popovic Subject: [AVALON] First Time Just signed on to Avalon - can someone respond? Ferry Fans in Wisconsin ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 23:44:34 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First Time >Just signed on to Avalon - can someone respond? No. Welcome to the list! The Prince of Happiness "I got a phone call from the sergeant yesterday he had a message from the good old U.S.A.: "Good grades, high I.Q., you're one terrific guy we'll let you push the buttons while the other people die."-The Mr. T Experience, "Marine Recruiter" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #6 ************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest