From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #440 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, December 16 2000 Volume 05 : Number 440 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] this love ["C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" ] Re: [AVALON] this love [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] Cold Turkey ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Hey Jude ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [M Gussekloo ] RE: [AVALON] Cold Turkey ["=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=?=" ] Re: RE: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [jeremy72@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Hey Jude [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: RE: [AVALON] Cold Turkey ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [jeremy72@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Bryan's Christmas Single ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey ["Han Snijders" ] [AVALON] Ticket To Ride (more Beatles via Ferry) ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] this love ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] this love [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [stevesiren ] [AVALON] Roxyrama... ["Prince of Happiness" ] Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey [stevesiren ] [AVALON] Melody Maker [AMeyersLD@aol.com] [AVALON] Fred Pineau ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan's Christmas Single ["Judy Kaufman" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:54:11 +0100 From: "C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] this love - ---------- >Von: "Ferdinand Biesheuvel" >An: >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] this love >Datum: Fre, 15. Dez 2000 9:44 Uhr > I think in one of the books on Ferry and Roxy it was stated that he covered, ahem re-interpreted Heart On My Sleeve prior to the release of any other version. Taxi (the track) is, if I remember correctly, from 1983. At the time before Taxi was released (yes, I was already born back then!), I thought he'd do some more recent songs. But no, no Ferry versions of "Decades" by Joy Division, "The Voice" by Ultravox or "Train Running Low On Soul Coal" by XTC. I'm exaggerating a bit, but I'm putting forward one song he really should re-interpret is "The Birds" by Peter Hammill, one of the best songs EVER written (a very un-post-modern statement that). He should also do a very sad version of Julee Cruise's "Falling (The theme from Twin Peaks)". But I'm not his manager and so my words are lost in the ether, which doesn't even seem to exist... Christian >isn't it a littlebit "un"Ferry that he covers such a "new" song. >Bryan only covered atleast 25 year old songs. the youngest was I.M.O. like a >Hurricane. Or am I wrong on this one. >ferdinand ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:19:44 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] this love In a message dated 15/12/00 07:57:20 GMT Standard Time, ferryman@freeuk.com writes: << Frantic was a song co-written by Ferry with Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics. I have a list of seven song titles on which they have co-operated. There were also some cover versions recorded at this time, including This Love. In addition there is another song called 'Couldn't Get It Right' which Ferry co-wrote with.....Andy Mackay. That should get your juices going... >> I have an interview from Billboard magazine 1996 discussing Dance With Life and Bryan mentions the Dave Stewart sessions Ferry foresees his album-in-progress as a spring '97 release and warns fans to expect some some "new aspects" to his elegantly nuanced sound. "I've been playing a lot of keyboards, and some songs, like ''Love War' are very aggressive." J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:45:07 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] this love Ferry foresees his album-in-progress as a spring '97 release and warns fans to expect some "new aspects" to his elegantly nuanced sound. J.O'B. Ferry seems to still be in the studio recording as we speak. Apparently he's very "up" and producing much more up tempo toons, in contrast to the more melancholic stuff already in the can. Who knows, we may end up with a Manifesto style two sider - Doom and Boom? Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: JObinv01@aol.com [mailto:JObinv01@aol.com] Sent: 15 December 2000 10:20 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] this love In a message dated 15/12/00 07:57:20 GMT Standard Time, ferryman@freeuk.com writes: << Frantic was a song co-written by Ferry with Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics. I have a list of seven song titles on which they have co-operated. There were also some cover versions recorded at this time, including This Love. In addition there is another song called 'Couldn't Get It Right' which Ferry co-wrote with.....Andy Mackay. That should get your juices going... >> I have an interview from Billboard magazine 1996 discussing Dance With Life and Bryan mentions the Dave Stewart sessions ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:27:13 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] this love I don't think it really matters what he covers as long as a brings something new to hit and lets face it, he always does!!! Personally I would love to hear him do an album of 1960's covers. He alluded to this in interviews he did to promote ATGB saying 'the best songs came from the 1920's and 1960's.' Imagine Bryans voice on Love Me Tender or Hey Jude? Jonathan - ----- Original Message ----- isn't it a littlebit "un"Ferry that he covers such a "new" song. Bryan only covered atleast 25 year old songs. the youngest was I.M.O. like a Hurricane. Or am I wrong on this one. ferdinand - ----- Original Message ----- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:47:12 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Cold Turkey And before anyone points it out - I know it's John Lennon. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:45:16 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Hey Jude Anything but Hey Jude, perleeaassee!!!!!! Surely the most overrated Beatles song EVER! How about Cold Turkey instead? SimonG >>> 12/15 11:27 am >>> >Imagine Bryans voice on Love Me Tender or Hey Jude? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:55:27 +0100 From: M Gussekloo Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey The stylish gentleman mr. F screaming about heroine? |:/ Maybe "Watching the wheels" would be more appropriate (could anyone tell me how to spell that word please?) Or maybe Eno and mr. F could make some funky remake of "Dig it" (like the FBI!) Gus ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:24:13 -0000 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=?=" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Cold Turkey Beatles covers for our hero? 'Here, There & Everywhere' 'Dear Prudence' 'Back in the USSR' (given recent events) and for the ironic and more Lennon focussed listeners ... 'Working Class Hero' Cheers Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:38:35 -0500 From: David Neuhaus Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey "Beatles covers for our hero?" How about: You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) Dave N. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:44:04 -0500 From: jeremy72@mindspring.com Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] Cold Turkey I'll offer up some too: Julia I Want You I Will In My Life Something And I Love Her Tried to think of a Ringo tune but couldn't. Ha, ha. Jeremy avalon@smoe.org wrote: > Beatles covers for our hero? 'Here, There & Everywhere' 'Dear Prudence' 'Back in the USSR' (given recent events) and for the ironic and more Lennon focussed listeners ... 'Working Class Hero' Cheers Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:46:20 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hey Jude In a message dated 15/12/00 12:04:02 GMT Standard Time, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: << Anything but Hey Jude, perleeaassee!!!!! >> Yeah but with the old Ferry magic....you might grow to love it!!! jonathan 8) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:50:09 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] Cold Turkey Well I think Cold Turkey would be quite appropriate this time of year, just add the word "sandwiches". Example: "Cold turkey sandwiches have got me on the run." And the verse: "30 mixed pickles, have got me in pain...." You get the idea, anyone? SimonG cranberry sauce..... >>> "Thirhse O'Donnell" 12/15 2:24 pm >>> Beatles covers for our hero? 'Here, There & Everywhere' 'Dear Prudence' 'Back in the USSR' (given recent events) and for the ironic and more Lennon focussed listeners ... 'Working Class Hero' Cheers Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:34:00 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey I'd give my right testicle to hear Bryans rendition of Octopus's Garden!!!! Jonathan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:05:04 -0500 From: jeremy72@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey Hmm, you know, I think that would work. I thought about Good Night but then Lennon wrote that so I skipped it because I was putting too much Lennon. I thought about O.G. but was thinking of the guitar intro and thought it was too peppy for Mr. Ferry these days. But maybe he'd be game. It has a kind of If There Is Something feel. Yeah. Somebody get him working on this. Chop chop!!! ;-) Jeremy avalon@smoe.org wrote: > I'd give my right testicle to hear Bryans rendition of Octopus's Garden!!!! Jonathan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:07:04 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey It would have sounded good on These Foolish Things - that sort of old rock 'n' roll chord progression, bit of country. Oh yes, let's start the campaign now! SimonG BTW I bet he could do a good jon on While My Guitar Gently Weeps, although I feel the lyric should be changed from "guitar" to....? Suggestions on a postcard or sealed envelope.... :-) >>> 12/15 3:34 pm >>> I'd give my right testicle to hear Bryans rendition of Octopus's Garden!!!! Jonathan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:35:51 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan's Christmas Single He should have got seasonal this year, a double A side - The Christmas Song and White Christmas. Get the ATGB Big Band behind him and watch him croon - "chestnuts roasting on an open fire". What a fine slice of Christmas cheese that would be! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:49:38 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey I asked him but he's not interested. Sorry Jonathan btw I'd give my middle one for "Great balls of fire" > I'd give my right testicle to hear Bryans rendition of Octopus's > Garden!!!! > > Jonathan. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:10:40 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Ticket To Ride (more Beatles via Ferry) It's just come back to me now in a sudden flash! I have a tape somewhere from Bryan's 1977 tour, and they finish off the show with a rather flat and shambolic cover of Ticket To Ride. He's singing out of tune and Spedding attempts a guitar solo. Woops! It probably seemed like a good idea at the time! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 20:23:22 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Tribute in New York There will be a series of Roxy Music tribute shows in New York in February, for those Avalonians feeling left out from the big London bash perhaps. Details here: http://www.loserslounge.com/ WEDNESDAY to SATURDAY FEBRUARY 7,8,9,10, 2000 AT THE WESTBETH THEATRE 151 BANK ST, NEW YORK CITY ATTENTION! WEDNESDAY & THURSDAY SHOW STARTS AT 8:00 PM FRIDAY & SATURDAY SHOW STARTS AT 9:00 PM Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:38:00 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Camp Kitch-Chapter 12 Rob - No worry, it will be politics, as usual. No argument here! Guy - I really liked Howard Devoto's "...But the brightest jewel inside of me Glows with pleasure at my own stupidity."! I guess, if one is able to laugh at one's self - marvel at one's idiosyncrasies, realize one's inconsistencies, and understand one's adaptations - that one must have an appreciation of life and the human condition. Thanks for the quote. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:47:52 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] this love > isn't it a littlebit "un"Ferry that he covers such a "new" song. > Bryan only covered atleast 25 year old songs. the youngest was I.M.O. like a > Hurricane. Or am I wrong on this one. 'these foolish things' was released in 1974 and included re-makes/re-models of 'sympathy for the devil,' 'you won't see me,' and 'hard rain's a-gonna fall,' all of which were released not much earlier than then. 'bride stripped bare' includes the velvet underground's 'what goes on.' i'm leaving out others but no, ferry does not ordinarily limit himself to reworking old tunes. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:11:39 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] this love < "Ferry foresees his album-in-progress as a spring '97 release and warns fans to expect some some "new aspects" to his elegantly nuanced sound. "I've been playing a lot of keyboards, and some songs, like ''Love War' are very aggressive." > He must have broke his keyboards, or did I miss that release. I've been in the ether, either it doesn't exist or I'm out of body, again. This "album-in-progress" situation seems to be a relentless work routine for Mr. Ferry. I wonder if he finds that as frustrating as his fans do. Oh well, a living piece of art, always in progress - remake, remodel, reform, reaffirm. Must be a retentive madness in his soul. Gotta love 'im. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:21:12 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey The Doors - "Light My Fire" (Feast of Lights) OK - If it has to be a Beetles tune, make it "Day Tripper" (Holiday shopper) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:39:48 +0000 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey Dion's "the wanderer" or yoko's "Don't worry Otis mummy's only looking in the snow" Steve ps no one has mentioned jerry hall for about 2 weeks now, whats up? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:00:47 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: [AVALON] Roxyrama... Just wanted to say that I love the Merry Christmas pic! Too adorable! The Prince of Happiness "But the funny thing is what happened to her nose. Ooo it grew till it reached all her toes, and when people said that her feet smelled they meant her nose."-Lou Reed "Andy's Chest" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:22:12 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey In a message dated 15/12/00 22:58:29 GMT Standard Time, stevesiren@netscapeonline.co.uk writes: << ps no one has mentioned jerry hall for about 2 weeks now, whats up? >> There was an article in the ES magazine about Rock stars in love. Guess which acrimonious rock star/ model split up featured heavily? BORING!!!! Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:20:19 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxyrama... You can thank Jocelyn, she drew it... Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Prince of Happiness Sent: 15 December 2000 23:01 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Roxyrama... Just wanted to say that I love the Merry Christmas pic! Too adorable! The Prince of Happiness "But the funny thing is what happened to her nose. Ooo it grew till it reached all her toes, and when people said that her feet smelled they meant her nose."-Lou Reed "Andy's Chest" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 23:32:03 +0000 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cold Turkey AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! KWil632057@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 15/12/00 22:58:29 GMT Standard Time, > stevesiren@netscapeonline.co.uk writes: > > << ps no one has mentioned jerry hall for about 2 weeks now, whats up? >> > > There was an article in the ES magazine about Rock stars in love. Guess which > acrimonious rock star/ model split up featured heavily? > > BORING!!!! > > Jonathan > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:38:30 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Melody Maker Hey all! I have been catching up on a weeks worth of e-mail, and tucked in among the debates about the Prez and the supreme court on another music list was an announcement that the Melody Maker had ceased publication after 74 years. Now, I hadn't read it in years, but in High School we used to get it (one freind would steal it) from the Old Main Street News Stand in Evanston. We would get it four weeks late.... Through the MM I read about Devo a full six monthes before we were able to hear them., for example. (It took seeing them live to convince my crowd that Devo had a long "e"). I remember anxiously following the Roxy Reunion news in the MM. Andfollowing the explosion that eventually became punk. Enough nostalgia, I have snow to dig. Andrew In Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 03:42:31 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Fred Pineau Here's some reminiscences by Fred Pineau, guitarist with US band The Atlantics, who supported Roxy on their US tour of circa 1975/6. http://www.dirtywater.com/a2z/p/fredpineau/fred.html Halfway down the page there are some nice recollections of his dealings with the band. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 22:44:00 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's Christmas Single - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway Subject: [AVALON] Bryan's Christmas Single > He should have got seasonal this year, a double A side - The Christmas Song and White Christmas. Get the ATGB Big Band behind him and watch him croon - "chestnuts roasting on an open fire". What a fine slice of Christmas cheese that would be! > > SimonG This reminded me of a record I have. It was represented to me as a Roxy Music Christmas record. The specifics are: EG Records LTD 1980 EGO 3 (2002 021) The Dumbells A Christmas Dream - writer credit: Dumbells copyright EG Music Ltd. 1980 Giddy-Up (Inc. "Sleigh Rides") - writer credit (L. Anderson arr. Dumbells) Mills Music Ltd/EG Music Ltd Info anyone? Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:05:18 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Chapter, Verse, finale Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:38:28 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Camp Kitch-Chapter and Verse Sweety, I wasn't trying to faze or impress you, I was making some remarks for discussion which a number of Avalonians, it seems, have been in sympathy with. I don't know you, so I mean it in the nicest, least offensive possible way when say that I don't give a flying f*** what you think or what you do with your time. An interesting remark by Gore Vidal to finish, which I don't have to hand so I will paraphrase: " Anti-intellectualism is as as American as Apple pie. Corporations have told.......... Your flying fuck remark in itself was offenisve. I did not resort to that level, but if you think that makes you cute "sweetie" then shine on. Your so called attempts at humor and intellect are feeble at best. You should get from behind the keyboard and get some fresh air. "Politeness is good nature regulated by good sense" To the "smart" people: No one ever said that YOU were not smart. You should pat your self or selves on the back for being what you are. Some of us don't have the need to draw attention to the fact that we know what we know. It all comes down to how you feel about YOU. Now back to Avalonia: I wish I could make the special party, but the timing does not coincide with my vacation time. I have yet to make a trip to England but it could happen later in the new year. I hope those who do attend have a great time and fill us in on the details plus pics. Kudos to Reecy for putting it all together. Very curious as to who the Special Guests are. What a tease Snowbound in the windy city Jas ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:11:00 -0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Remasters I don't know if anyone else has seen this on the remastered cds but whilst in Singapore I saw the remasters with little stickers that said: "Remade, Remodelled, Remastered" in the Roxy typeface. I hadn't seen that before, I thought it was a nice touch for us cognescenti! A. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #440 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest