From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #429 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, December 7 2000 Volume 05 : Number 429 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Humor Us ["Tim Kendrick" ] [AVALON] live recordings ["michael ferguson" ] Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ["R. Jackson" ] RE: [AVALON] Humor Us ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ["David Firmin" ] RE: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon [Karen Roth ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) ["Prince of Happiness] Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ["David Firmin" ] Re: [AVALON] Ask the audience... [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] BF - Live at Wolverhampton ["John Doe" ] Re: [AVALON] "Wembley Arena 1982" & "When We Were Young" CDs ["Rod LeClou] Re: [AVALON] Need Bootleg Track List ["Franck Ruffino" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:50:53 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) At www.teenagewildlife.com (on one of the many message boards) there's been a debate going on about Roxy/Ferry and if Bowie fans generally like them. It has developed into a "These Foolish Things vs. Pin Ups" debate with Ferry coming out on top! From reading the posts it would seem that long time Bowie fans (over 15 years) also like Roxy/Ferry, but newer fans (5 years or less) don't know much and dismiss them because of the Avalon album. So, 27 years on which is it? These Foolish Things has the greater range of songs/styles, and the most interesting arrangements/interpretations. Pin Ups is basically Bowie tarting up the originals from a certain era, with the exception of maybe See Emily Play which was heavily reworked from the Pink Floyd original. They both work, and I'm inclined to prefer Pin Ups. It's a little less cheesey than These Foolish Things, but Bowie does overdo the "theatrics" a little. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:18:52 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Cor Eddie, that's really feelgood... At 11.14 +0000 0-11-04, Chris Turner wrote: >Dr Feelgood opened for KISS on their first US tour. Not a happy mix... Jimi Hendrix opened for The Monkeys. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:22:37 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon Return-path: From: Avalon887@aol.com Full-name: Avalon887 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:53:11 EST Subject: Fwd: slightly off topic - John Lennon To: avalon@smoe.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Return-path: From: Avalon887@aol.com Full-name: Avalon887 Message-ID: <86.3b9fcd5.275cea0d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:37:33 EST Subject: re: slightly off topic - John Lennon To: avalon@smoe.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain hi - did anyone see the John Lennon movie Sunday Night NBC USA... I thought it was very good. It took us from John as a lad living with his Aunt Mimi up to his arrival with the other Beatles in NY in 1964 (ed Sullivan Show). Any thoughts? Eileen in Queens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:02:04 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon HELLO??? I gather because no one responded to your first or second posting you posted this for a third time now? I didn't see it so I won't comment - Avalon887@aol.com wrote: > > Return-path: > From: Avalon887@aol.com > Full-name: Avalon887 > Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:53:11 EST > Subject: Fwd: slightly off topic - John Lennon > To: avalon@smoe.org > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain > > Return-path: > From: Avalon887@aol.com > Full-name: Avalon887 > Message-ID: <86.3b9fcd5.275cea0d@aol.com> > Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:37:33 EST > Subject: re: slightly off topic - John Lennon > To: avalon@smoe.org > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Disposition: Inline > X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain > > hi - did anyone see the John Lennon movie Sunday Night NBC USA... > > I thought it was very good. It took us from John as a lad living with his > Aunt Mimi up to his arrival with the other Beatles in NY in 1964 (ed Sullivan > Show). Any thoughts? > > Eileen in Queens > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ >-----------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:20:11 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] Humor Us So subjective, seldom sublime. Chris makes a joke, the panty crow mimes. But Christopher's humor is a laughing joke, He's nothing more than a humor us bloke. Come hither and see the man in two casts The strand was too much the tables did crash. Some saw the humor and others did not When K.B.Porter wished him well, Sublime, was that not? One makes a slam disguised as a joke, Thinly veiled for many a folk. Poking fun at someone's expense Is too easy to do and is hardly humorous. No, the jokes are a sham but humor exists It's not always obvious, it is subtle when best. Credit the dame under the table, Tried the dance but with too much flair, So obvious there, she fell flat. Splat! But for some, this slapstick is a different matter: It is a chance to laugh at the bloke, a self-made joke Who stabs in the air, a poke, a jab nowhere. It is a chance to watch The pantomimes botch Their three ring circus. Please, go on, Humor us. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:26:21 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Humor Us You ain't a poet. Don't you know it? Tim - -----Original Message----- From: KB Porter To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:27 AM Subject: [AVALON] Humor Us >So subjective, seldom sublime. >Chris makes a joke, the panty crow mimes. >But Christopher's humor is a laughing joke, >He's nothing more than a humor us bloke. > and on and on and on... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:55:03 -0000 From: "michael ferguson" Subject: [AVALON] live recordings I assume that everyone on a*alon has several things in common: We like the music of Bryan Ferry / Roxy Music. We like to listen to live and rare recordings. We object to paying over-inflated prices for bootlegs. We are not selfish. For the last couple of months I have made my archive available to anyone who wants a copy of a cd at cost price, and have been prepared to swap recordings. Thanks to this my collection is growing by the day, there are several happy collectors on the list, and the bootleggers have lost a lot of trade. Are there any like-minded people out there who would like to create a "network" to swap reccordings and to supply to others at cost? If you are interested, please e-mail me off list. Mike Ferguson ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:22:43 +0100 From: "C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) These Foolish Things has to be it, in my mind, because the title track is SO WONDERFUL and great, one of Bryan's best re-interpretations, and it makes up for all the "cheesey" bits, don't you think. Not to mention that some of the cheesey bits were intended as cheesey bits, I would interpret. To think one should be able to dismiss Roxy/Ferry because of Avalon, is, well not only short-sighted, but even ignorant. I would never judge Bowie by listening to Let's Dance and Tonight, would I? It's of course doing Avalon disservice, but it's, you might agree, a more commercial effort, as are LD and Tonight. Only that Avalon is really good. I like Bowie for his voice and especially his Low/Heroes LPs, but sorry, I get a bit annoyed, when young Bowie fans see Mr. Jones as the big hipster and Bryan as the suave housewives' crooner - listen to early Roxy, and then listen to early Bowie (no, not THAT early!!!). I think there's a well audible difference concerning the innovative impact. I don't want to sound rude, I hope you understand, and my criticism is directed at those not willing to listen to Roxy with open ears, and bla... ah, you say you haven't read this far??? Never mind... Christian - ---------- >Von: "Simon Galloway" >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) >Datum: Mit, 6. Dez 2000 10:50 Uhr > >So, 27 years on which is it? These Foolish Things has the greater range of >songs/styles, and the most interesting arrangements/interpretations. Pin >Ups is basically Bowie tarting up the originals from a certain era, with >the exception of maybe See Emily Play which was heavily reworked from the >Pink Floyd original. They both work, and I'm inclined to prefer Pin Ups. >It's a little less cheesey than These Foolish Things, but Bowie does overdo >the "theatrics" a little. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:40:45 +0100 From: "Sebastian Fasthuber" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) >>>>>>>I get a bit annoyed, when young Bowie fans see Mr. Jones as the big hipster and Bryan as the suave housewives' crooner good point, christian! but then why is it bowie is much more of a household name these days (even with ferry catching up in the last year)? management? anyone? sebastian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:42:20 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon SORRY ABOUT POSTING IT 3X --- didn't see it posted first 2 times ... don't know why... eileen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:10:47 -0000 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=?=" Subject: RE: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon No need to apologise, these things happen. Wish I'd seen the film though! Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 14:55:25 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) >>> "Sebastian Fasthuber" 12/06 2:40 pm >>> >management? Self management, a good accountant, decent business sense and self-worth. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Sebastian Fasthuber wrote: > >>>>>>>I get a bit annoyed, when young Bowie > fans see Mr. Jones as the big hipster and Bryan as the suave > housewives' crooner > > good point, christian! > but then why is it bowie is much more > of a household name these days (even with > ferry catching up in the last year)? > management? > anyone? Mr. Bowie is much more of a household name because he was lucky enough to have a huge, world-wide hit with the _Let's Dance_ album with several hit singles (he even made the cover of either Time or Newsweek here in the US), and because he could take that mainstream fame he has branched out into films, and because he has aggressively marketed himself (and toured extensively throughout the world) with every transformation, whether it is changing his hair color, reinventing himself as Johnny Rotten, or latching onto Trent Reznor's hype. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:27:16 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) >Self management, a good accountant, decent business sense and self-worth. I was also going to say huge tours in the U.S. and then the world, big, big singles (Fame, Young Americans, Let's Dance, Modern Love, China Girl, Blue Jean), and media saturation, making a huge internet presence through Bowienet and the "Bowiebonds" deal. Then re-establishing a "youth cult" with the Outside/Earthling records and tours, plus a lot of those kids growing up saw Labyrinth, loved it and buy records now. Err, CDs I mean. The Prince of Happiness "And I'm gone, like I'm dancing on angels, and I'm gone to the crack in the past, like a dead man walking"-David Bowie, "Dead Man Walking" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 11:00:14 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) Perhaps its who you know?? David Bowie slept with Jagger ... he's successful & famous ... Jerry Hall slept with Jagger ... she's successful & famous ... Bryan Ferry slept with ...?? THAT MUST BE IT! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ >-----------------------------------------------------------< Simon Galloway wrote: > > >>> "Sebastian Fasthuber" 12/06 2:40 pm >>> > >management? > > Self management, a good accountant, decent business sense and self-worth. > > SimonG > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 07:51:57 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Paul Thompson Andy Mackay was quoted as saying, "we needed one unintellectual in the band" about Paul Thompson. Yet, Brian Eno was quoted as saying, "Thompson wanted to be John Bonham. He really held it all together. Without Paul," he notes, without a trace of irony, "Roxy would have been art rock at its worst." I agree with Eno, Paul really did hold it all together. Look how uninteresting they were on Flesh + Blood and Avalon. They lost their backbone. I'm sure this might offend some people, but I'd like to ruffle some feathers. David ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:51:02 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson At 07:51 AM 12/06/2000 -0800, David Firmin wrote: >I agree with Eno, Paul really did hold it all together. Look how >uninteresting they were on Flesh + Blood and Avalon. They lost their >backbone. I'm sure this might offend some people, but I'd like to ruffle >some feathers. > >David Drums weren't a problem for that incarnation, when actual drums were used. All IMO, of course. If you can find a way to marginalize Andy Newmark or (especially) Simon Philips then we aren't speaking the same language to begin with and aren't likely to be able to exchange ideas freely until we build a common tongue. Not that Paul isn't a damn fine musician in his own right, but I think Paul or Simon are each an asset to any project they participate in. - -Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:15:31 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) >>> "Prince of Happiness" 12/06 3:27 pm >>> >plus a lot of those kids growing up saw Labyrinth, loved it and buy records >now. Err, CDs I mean. Too true, many youngsters these days don't know what records are. I was in a "music dept" of a department store a few years ago, and a little kiddie (5 or 6) was bugging his mum to buy the new Ninja Turtles single (or whatever): "Mum, mum, look - you can get it on cd, tape... or that other thingy...erm what are they mum?" "Records" "Yeah, them". Oh what a sinking feeling I felt inside. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:37:36 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson >Andy Mackay was quoted as saying, "we needed one unintellectual in the >band" about Paul Thompson. Yet, Brian Eno was quoted as saying, >"Thompson wanted to be John Bonham. He really held it all together. >Without Paul," he notes, without a trace of irony, "Roxy would have been >art rock at its worst." Eno's spot on there, and although Mackay's comment may appear cruel I'm sure it wasn't intended that way. In Roxy, Thompson was a very inventive drummer (Amazona, lolloping time changes on Sea Breezes) but also the force that drove Roxy on (Street Life, The Thrill Of It All, Out Of The Blue). For his most Bonham like drumming, check out the long BBC version of If There Is Something (August 1972). As well as excellent solos from Manzanera and Mackay, Thompsons drumming is quite special. On the recent Ferry tour a few songs really lacked that Thompson drive, particularly Out Of The Blue, Street Life and Virginia Plain. Only then did it come clear what an essential ingredient he was on those songs. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:58:17 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Humor Us KB goes from bad to verse! ;o) PS: just a cliched pun, don't read anything into it! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KB Porter Sent: 06 December 2000 13:20 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Humor Us So subjective, seldom sublime. Chris makes a joke, the panty crow mimes. But Christopher's humor is a laughing joke, He's nothing more than a humor us bloke. Come hither and see the man in two casts The strand was too much the tables did crash. Some saw the humor and others did not When K.B.Porter wished him well, Sublime, was that not? One makes a slam disguised as a joke, Thinly veiled for many a folk. Poking fun at someone's expense Is too easy to do and is hardly humorous. No, the jokes are a sham but humor exists It's not always obvious, it is subtle when best. Credit the dame under the table, Tried the dance but with too much flair, So obvious there, she fell flat. Splat! But for some, this slapstick is a different matter: It is a chance to laugh at the bloke, a self-made joke Who stabs in the air, a poke, a jab nowhere. It is a chance to watch The pantomimes botch Their three ring circus. Please, go on, Humor us. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:22:53 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson I agree, but you must admit that studio musicians like Andy Newmark might as well be drum machines. - ---------- >From: "R. Jackson" >To: avalon@smoe.org, avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson >Date: Wed, Dec 2000, 8:51 AM > > At 07:51 AM 12/06/2000 -0800, David Firmin wrote: > >>I agree with Eno, Paul really did hold it all together. Look how >>uninteresting they were on Flesh + Blood and Avalon. They lost their >>backbone. I'm sure this might offend some people, but I'd like to ruffle >>some feathers. >> >>David > > Drums weren't a problem for that incarnation, when actual drums were used. > All IMO, of course. If you can find a way to marginalize Andy Newmark or > (especially) Simon Philips then we aren't speaking the same language to > begin with and aren't likely to be able to exchange ideas freely until we > build a common tongue. > > Not that Paul isn't a damn fine musician in his own right, but I think Paul > or Simon are each an asset to any project they participate in. > > -Rob > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:03:41 -0900 From: Karen Roth Subject: RE: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon I did see the John Lennon movie and I thought it was good. It was strange that it wasn't about his whole life though. Did anyone watch the live Elton John special the other night? Fabulous, he even had Kicki Dee there to sing "don't go breaking my heart" Wouldn't it be grand if Bryan could do a special like that. Just dreaming. Karen SORRY ABOUT POSTING IT 3X --- didn't see it posted first 2 times ... don't know why... eileen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 14:10:22 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson > I agree, but you must admit that studio musicians like Andy Newmark might as > well be drum machines. not at all. newmark is to thompson as neil hubbard is to manzanera -- not as flashy, but well suited for ferry's later, more subdued work. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 13:19:37 -0600 From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) >Too true, many youngsters these days don't know what records are. I was in >a "music dept" of a department store a few years ago, and a little kiddie >(5 or 6) was bugging his mum to buy the new Ninja Turtles single (or >whatever): "Mum, mum, look - you can get it on cd, tape... or that other >thingy...erm what are they mum?" >"Records" >"Yeah, them". > >Oh what a sinking feeling I felt inside. *laughs* Myself included! I tried a record once. I got this awful scratching sound. I was scared and promptly put the record away. Such as it is growing up in the waning days of vinyl. The stuff was there for me to use, just I felt I didn't need to use it. I wasn't interested in Mom's records, so...why bother? But now I'm finding that there's some old stuff that hasn't made it over to CD yet, that I'll need a turntable for. Danse Society comes immediately to mind. I know there's more... The Prince of Happiness "And I'm gone, like I'm dancing on angels, and I'm gone to the crack in the past, like a dead man walking"-David Bowie, "Dead Man Walking" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 09:57:41 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson Did you know that all the Roxy members utilized Paul on their finest solo albums? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:46:05 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ask the audience... I read an interview with BF recently and he said that the 'As Time Goes By' project came from him being asked to contribute a song for Ian Mckellen's film version 'Richard 3rd'. This song was never used....Does anyone know what it was called and if it is avaliable? Also, has Bryan ever performed 'Feel the Need' live and if so, could anyone direct me to a boot with this on? While i'm here does anyone know when the rumored BF box set is due to hit the shelves? I have tried asking this questions at the official site and....well, lifes too short to wait for an answer........ Fellow Avalonions, please don't fail me!!!!!!! Jonathan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:05:02 -0800 From: "John Doe" Subject: [AVALON] BF - Live at Wolverhampton After several requests, I put the files online through Napster as well as the newsgroup. You can find them under my account which is "ztag100" and the files are there, ready to be xfer'd at will. Kevin ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 16:46:02 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Wembley Arena 1982" & "When We Were Young" CDs Hello Jeff, I attached my current CDR trading list. It's a text file so you should be able to open it in any word processor program. Please send me yours and let me know if you see anything of interest. Thanks, Rod - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeffrey F. Jones To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: [AVALON] "Wembley Arena 1982" & "When We Were Young" CDs > Hi gang: > > Been out of the loop for awhile. I heard AVALON has "produced" some new > CDs. I am willing to trade 2 new CDs I just won on eBay "Wembley Arena > 1982" (Redline Srl ) & "When We Were Young" (BBC 1972 - Oh Boy). These are > both great sounding!! > > In addition, if anyone else has updated trading lists please contact me > off-line and I will send mine. > > Thanks, > > Jeffrey > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon [MUSICIAN] Updated: 12-05-00 Title, Source, Rating, #Discs (if more than one), Length [FERRY, BRYAN] Various Live, TV and Studio Outtakes 74-99 "Strictly Confidential" 9 1CD (73:20) Various TV/Radio 85-99 "All Styles Served Here" 9 1CD (54:52) Various Live 99/00 "The Avalon Ballroom" 9-10 1CD (73:05) Boston, MA USA 11-07-99, "These Vintage Years" AUD 8.5 2CD (59:16, 38:28) BBC Hippodrome Golders Green, England, 12-06-99 "The Only Face" 10 1CD (56:32) Oslo, Norway 06-10-00/02-05-00, "Fjord Pleasure" 10/8.5 1CD (74:00) [GILMOUR, DAVID] Bethlehem, Pennsylvania USA 07-12-84, "In Floyd We Trust" FM Broadcast>MP3? 1CD (72:28) [KA-SPEL, EDWARD] 11-13-93 1CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Hambourg, Germany 03-20-95 Zillo Club 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Munster 05-22-98, AUD 9 1CD (66:29) Chicago, IL USA 11-11-98, AUD 9 1CD (51:10) [KING CRIMSON] 12th & Porter, Nashville, TN USA 05-20-00 AUD 9.5 2CD (44:24, 65:07) [LEGENDARY PINK DOTS] Hannover, 02-10-88 2CD (66:40, 22:20) UNREVIEWED Rennes, Salle Ubo 02-27-88 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Above disc #2 also includes Rotterdam, De Doelen 10-11-85 Wilhelmshaven, Kling Klang 02-02-90 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Above disc #2 also includes Bonn, Rheinterrassen 07-22-83 New York, NY USA 07-16-91 Limelight 2CD SBD *NEW UNREVIEWED Nijmegen, 12-17-92 2CD (73:13, 39:11) UNREVIEWED Paris, France 02-17-93 Passage du Nord-Ouest 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Paris, France 03-10-94 Passage du Nord-Ouest 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Paris, France 03-12-94 Passage du Nord-Ouest 1CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Atlanta, Georgia USA 11-01-98 Cotton Club 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Milwaukee, WI USA 11-8-98 AUD 9.5 2CD (60:25, 50:12) Chicago, IL USA 11-11-98 AUD 9.5 2CD (58:41, 50:43) Prague, CZ 01-24-00 AUD 9.5 2CD (54:29, 61:58) Atlanta, Georgia USA 06-08-00 Cotton Club 2CD *NEW UNREVIEWED Milwaukee, WI USA 06-20-00 AUD 9.5 2CD (46:49, 39:36) [PINK FLOYD] A CD Full Of Secrets, Westwood One Radio, 10 1CD (78:23) Includes 2 bonus tracks [PORCUPINE TREE] Shank Hall, Milwaukee, WI USA 06-03-99 AUD 9 2CD (79:04, 61:30) Disc 1 includes 5 non-album bonus tracks Transbordeur Club, Lyon, France 10-18-99 AUD 9 2CD (59:20, 64:33) w/ Steven Wilson interview/2 acoustic tracks [ROXY MUSIC] Wembley Arena 1980, "Eight Miles High" FM Broadcast 10 1CD (51:30) [WATERS, ROGER] East Rutherford, NJ 07-21-84 "Pros & Cons On The Road" AUD 9.5 2CD (66:03, 56:16) New York, New York 03-28-85 "In The Pink" 8.5 1CD (57:00) Quebec, Canada 05-22-87 "Welcome To The Machine" FM Broadcast 10 1CD (71:07) MSG, New York 08-26-87 "KAOS At MSG" 9.5 AUD 2CD (69:25, 77:37) Milwaukee, WI USA 11-13-87 AUD 9 3CD (63:35, 68:14, 48:23) Various Venues 1999 "In The Flesh" AUD 9.5 3CD (67:33, 68:07, 69:30) Milwaukee, WI USA 07-23-99 AUD 9.6 2CD (77:05, 76:19) Camden, NJ USA 08-11-99 AUD 9.4 2CD (73:17, 74:13) Providence, RI USA 07-16-00 AUD 9.5 2CD (75:18, 78:47) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 23:23:13 +0100 From: "Franck Ruffino" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Need Bootleg Track List Hi Han ! Great news, I'm interested :-) Thx for all your work, amities from France, Franck - ----- Original Message ----- From: Han Snijders To: Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Need Bootleg Track List > It's also known as 'living just for fun'. One of the best BF bootlegs! > We had this one in the past as a cd-tree and we will do this one again in > the very near future for the newcomers. December or January > > Han > > > This is probably the 1995 show that was broadcast on BBC Radio 2. Details > follow.... > > > > Wolverhampton Civic Hall, February 1995. > > I PUT A SPELL ON YOU / SLAVE TO LOVE / CAN'T LET GO / YOUR PAINTED SMILE / > OUT OF THE BLUE / VIRGINIA PLAIN / JEALOUS GUY / THE 39 STEPS / IN EVERY > DREAM HOME A HEARTACHE / DO THE STRAND > > > > It's an exceptional version of Dream Home. > > > > SimonG > > > > >>> "John Doe" 12/04 2:45 am >>> > > I have a copy of a boot that is described as Bryan Ferry at Wolverhampton > > UK. > > > > Does anyone know of this boot and have the track list? > > > > Thanks. > > > > kp > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:12:38 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] AVALON slightly off topic - John Lennon Kiki Dee was great! I watched some of the show! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:14:20 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry gets around (at a Bowie website) great thoughts Heather! eileen in Queens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:38:31 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson At 09:57 AM 12/06/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Did you know that all the Roxy members utilized Paul on their finest solo >albums? Did you know Simon Phillips was amazing in 801? ;-) - -Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 00:45:37 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] BF - Live at Wolverhampton Here's some background info for those of us who like that kind of thing, or who want to make CD inlays. The players on the Wolverhampton CD were: Robin Trower - Guitar Guy Fletcher - Keyboards David Williams - Guitar Melvin Lee Davis - Bass Alzino Bennett - Drums Audrey Wheeler - Backing Vox Can I recommend Melvin Lee Davis' web site to you?: http://www.primenet.com/~mldbass The gallery for 1994/95 has some nice pix and insight into the tour. Sounds like he really respected Ferry. Regards Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of John Doe Sent: 06 December 2000 21:05 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] BF - Live at Wolverhampton After several requests, I put the files online through Napster as well as the newsgroup. You can find them under my account which is "ztag100" and the files are there, ready to be xfer'd at will. Kevin ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:10:10 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson Bryan said in an interview for the Dutch radio " I'm a sort of benevolent uncle for Paul" I must say that in my opinion he always looked a bit sad in those glammy outfits. 'Born in the wrong clothes' Best example is the Angel Eyes video where he is dressed as a vacuumcleaner out of space. But Han > Andy Mackay was quoted as saying, "we needed one unintellectual in the band" > about Paul Thompson. Yet, Brian Eno was quoted as saying, "Thompson wanted > to be John Bonham. He really held it all together. Without Paul," he notes, > without a trace of irony, "Roxy would have been art rock at its worst." > > I agree with Eno, Paul really did hold it all together. Look how > uninteresting they were on Flesh + Blood and Avalon. They lost their > backbone. I'm sure this might offend some people, but I'd like to ruffle > some feathers. > > David > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #429 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest