From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #417 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, November 29 2000 Volume 05 : Number 417 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON]The Good Word - News [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Re: [AVALON] Le =?iso-8859-1?Q?billet=2Ddoux=E0?= la B =?iso-8859-1?Q?=EAte?= Noire [] Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) [] RE: [AVALON] Pretend film ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) [] Re: [AVALON] Pretend film ["Therese O'Donnell" ] [AVALON] Artsworld ["Johnny Reece" ] [AVALON] Artsworld BF Gig info ["Johnny Reece" ] Re: [AVALON] Pretend film ["Theresa Fagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Pretend film [Ida M Miller ] RE: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again ["Guy Lawley" ] RE: [AVALON] Pretend film ["Guy Lawley" ] RE: [AVALON] Pretend film ["Guy Lawley" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:09:40 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again Martin, this (below) relates to the Work and ah kin dig it (he said in R. Crumb catoon kitty mode) Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Martin Stockman Sent: 28 November 2000 06:33 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again >From: "Guy Lawley" > > The issue seems to be bringing out a mixture of sentimentality, prurience > and rather twisted hero-worship that I find decidedly uncomfortable. I hear what you're saying. Really. However .. In my sentimental, vaguely prurient, certainly awestruck way I can't let go the notion that Anthony's butterfly flap has rightly triggered off a tornado in the Avalonion Andes. My tired polemic, for newcomers, revolves around an assumption that pre-Bride Bryan wrote ironically about romance, celluloid pictures of loving. Beauty Queen is a lovely song but lyrically its a chance for Bryan to splay his poetic peacock plummage, (Swaying palms at your feet, You're the pride of your street,) coconut tears indeed, rather than the real pain, the open sore angst, of Wasteland, This Island Earth, Kiss and Tell, Chain Reaction, Running Wild et al. Happy days you pretend that you'll fall in love again. Martini ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:24:31 +0100 From: "C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again >My tired polemic, for newcomers, revolves around an assumption that >pre-Bride Bryan wrote ironically about romance, celluloid pictures of >loving. Beauty Queen is a lovely song but lyrically its a chance for Bryan >to splay his poetic peacock plummage, (Swaying palms at your feet, You're >the pride of your street,) coconut tears indeed, rather than the real pain, >the open sore angst, of Wasteland, This Island Earth, Kiss and Tell, Chain >Reaction, Running Wild et al. This is a very interesting comment, Martin, as I would agree there has been a shift towards a lesser degree of irony in Bryan's lyrics - perhaps actually influenced by biographical, ahem, occurrences. And yet I'd say that especially when early Roxy are being discussed in magazines etc., the irony aspect is being over-emphasized (as well in P. Stump's book). It was there, it formed a constituent part of early Roxy/Ferry, but to me, there has always been a dark edge in Bryan's music and lyrics (witness the not-that-ironic Strictly Confidential) that served and still serves to make them so unique. In addition to that, there is a technical aspect to the lyrical development - - earlier days I suppose he wrote the song before recording it, now it evolves in the studio - then, a careful vocal melody - and then: lyrics. I can very well understand his comment that with words, you're particularizing feelings. In a way, this has a Nietzschean echo (Julia could make a better comment on this but she's currently on holiday). Sorry if I sound too clinical, it must come from studying clinical psychology... Christian P.S.: "prurient" is a nice word, I had to look it up in my dictionary. In German, it's called "l|stern". Now isn't that nice. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:31:04 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] reavalon/bf videos Hang in there, Ernie - six hundred fun filled messages are on their way! We're just a big group of ... groupies? Welcome to Avalon List. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:37:41 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON]The Good Word - News Yesterday I asked Betsy to tell me what the heck she was writing about: << I have yet to hear anyone disputing the truth of Price's words. Perhaps I've missed something, but just, exactly, what subject is it, to which you refer, that Martin has delivered the good message? Best wishes, KBP >> Betsy, your cpu clock appears to be off time, considerably. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:47:43 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Re: [AVALON] Le =?iso-8859-1?Q?billet=2Ddoux=E0?= la B =?iso-8859-1?Q?=EAte?= Noire Guy wrote: "But I suspect a lot of us, like me, are cringing in embarassment." And I only thought you were sun burned! "Do we really have any right, or justification, to pass any judgment on (or even speculate about) these matters?" What matters? As far as I am able to discern there seems to be nothing but a garble of disjointed interaction. "The issue seems to be bringing out a mixture of sentimentality, prurience and rather twisted hero-worship that I find decidedly uncomfortable." I see your point, Guy. My spouse warned me from the start that some list members were too obsessive to be rational. In the words of B.T.Porter: "Some of those guys are crazy." So, please, do try to be more comfortable - after all, this is a tiny town, full of tiny ideas. ;^) Best wishes to all, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:56:04 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again Good sensible work, Christian. I agree "there has always been a dark edge in Bryan's music and lyrics (witness the not-that-ironic Strictly Confidential) that served and still serves to make them so unique." Also, Ferry's method of construction surely has a subtle impact upon the way his output feels to the listener. A very valid variable, indeed! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:34:57 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) Hello all, Here's one for the anoraks.. I've made some more changes at www.roxyrama.com, adding biographies, a number of newly acquired CD bootlegs, mainly Russian, and some new books to the listings there, along with some petty housekeeping. The books are interesting. Some of you may be familiar with the work of Dr Johannes Delmere, whose web site contains a detailed discography of Roxy and all the members' various side projects. You may be aware that Delmere issued this material as a small book in 1985. I've just got hold of a copy from the original print run of 200 (signed copy number 9!) It is a remarkable work of research. You may be surprised to hear however (well, I was) that Delmere's work has appeared elsewhere in print. In 1997 an updated version of the discography appeared in a huge hardback German tome by Jurgen Wanda called Re-Make/Re-Model - Die Geschichte von (The History Of) Roxy Music, Bryan Ferry and Brian Eno. Delmere's expanded discography has been augmented by individual chapters on each band member, and each individual album release. I thought I knew the back catalogue pretty well but there are very few omissions to my eyes, and some entries that were new to me. As a non-German speaker, the chapters are naturally difficult to understand (although easier than Stump's cod psychology :0) ) but the book is worth acquiring for the discography, which requires little German, and the extraordinary family tree in the back, which expands peripherally into a list of the kind of bands only their mothers (and Ivor) could love, e.g Caravan. I would recommend this book to serious collectors, and those that like a laugh. Look under Miscellany/Books on the site for details, including the ISBN. No pictures yet, as 'mein elektronischer Scanner wird bestdndig und nicht wiedergutzumachend beschddigt' Finally, I've just this morning got a copy of Ferry's video for Dance With Life. Although I can't tell (or care) whether he is being ironic, post-modern or angst-ridden, the video is a very striking performance. His Nibs, seemingly unaware of any need for treatment for pathological obsessiveness, and urbane in a black three-quarter length jacket and white open-necked shirt, emotes to the hinterland of a disused film studio, whilst clips from Phenomenon play on a movie screen in the background. If you were about to appear on Stars In Their Eyes as the Great Man, then you couldn't have a better training video than this, as Our Hero pulls those familiar shapes and silhouettes and effortlessly epitomises grace, before falling into the arms of a Siren-esque beauty. It's a familiar metaphor, but beautifully done. It's a nice companion for the 'Help Me' video, another film noir-ish effort. Only the incongruous and unwelcome intrusion of Travolta's potato face, mugging for the camera like a twinkly-eyed gurner, breaks the serenity. The cover photo for the CD which some of you may have, was taken from a still from this video. Even as we speak, the tape is heading for Cecil B de Reecey in North London for inclusion in Avalon's next opus - coming to a TV screen near you - soon!(Slated release date 2004) Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:18:03 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BAVALON=5D_RE=3A_=5BAVALON=5D_Re=3A_=5B? = =?iso-8859-1?Q?AVALON=5D_Le__billet-doux=E0_la__B_=EAte_Noire?= >My spouse warned me from the start that some list members were too obsessive to be rational. And he still married you? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:42:42 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] sounds like someone needs a hug today On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > >My spouse warned me from the start that some > > list members were too obsessive to be rational. > > And he still married you? {{{{{{{{{{Jocelyn}}}}}}}}}} Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:08:41 -0000 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=?=" Subject: [AVALON] Pretend film I have decided to ask probably a slightly tragic question but there you are, it has provided endless hours of fun for me. If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can extend beyond band-members etc. I have to say that no, none of you Avalonians can play BF (remember what Chris Turner said about every man on the list) or JH (and end up deconstructed by the great and the good on the list). Any thoughts? Cheers Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:56:16 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] sounds like someone needs a hug today I was looking for those sqiggly things that mean j for joke in internet speak but glad you found them for me Colleen, cheers. (((:::00)) Jocelyn )))00::))) - -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Matan [mailto:cjem@his.com] Sent: 28 November 2000 16:43 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: [AVALON] sounds like someone needs a hug today On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > >My spouse warned me from the start that some > > list members were too obsessive to be rational. > > And he still married you? {{{{{{{{{{Jocelyn}}}}}}}}}} Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:03:11 EST From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film I would have John Malkovich play Brian Eno in my film. Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:01:03 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) - ---------- >From: "Chris Turner" > > The books are interesting. Some of you may be familiar with the work of Dr > Johannes Delmere, whose web site contains a detailed discography of Roxy and > all the members' various side projects. You may be aware that Delmere issued > this material as a small book in 1985. I've just got hold of a copy from the > original print run of 200 (signed copy number 9!) It is a remarkable work of > research. Yeah, but what's his take on the Bry, Jerry, Mick triangle ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:04:18 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film It's a film recorded from the point of view of a famous webdesigner. While working on his RMsite ROXYDRAMA you see a kind of flashbacks of the BF/RM story....but you also see what's happening in the future! At this point it's confirmed that: Catherine Deneuve plays JH at the age of 65. Al Pacino plays Bryan Ferry J Irons plays Anthony Price. and John Travolta plays the role of the webdesigner Especially the dramatic split between Bryan and Anthony after an interview about Bryan's lasting love for Jerry Hall is heartbreaking! The most Hilarious part is the scene in which the family is sitting round the dinnertable, Lucy H read the daily avalonmails to the children who have to guess who is the writer. Han > I have decided to ask probably a slightly tragic question but there you are, > it has provided endless hours of fun for me. > > If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can > extend beyond band-members etc. I have to say that no, none of you > Avalonians can play BF (remember what Chris Turner said about every man on > the list) or JH (and end up deconstructed by the great and the good on the > list). > > Any thoughts? > Cheers > Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:40:17 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) He must be torn Martin, he's also a massive Stones fan... Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Martin Stockman Sent: 28 November 2000 20:01 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) - ---------- >From: "Chris Turner" > > The books are interesting. Some of you may be familiar with the work of Dr > Johannes Delmere, whose web site contains a detailed discography of Roxy and > all the members' various side projects. You may be aware that Delmere issued > this material as a small book in 1985. I've just got hold of a copy from the > original print run of 200 (signed copy number 9!) It is a remarkable work of > research. Yeah, but what's his take on the Bry, Jerry, Mick triangle ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:27:51 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Pretend film ...that guy Han, why I oughtta... My spin on this is a film set in a small boarding house in the French Alps. Title: Coathanger! Antony Price to be played by Sylvester Stallone in a big hat, Ferry originally to play himself (but to be replaced by John Lithgow at the last possible moment) Everyone speaks French with Dutch subtitles except Ferry, who says only 'Ahm from Newcassel me' and 'where's Bukke?' whilst simultaneously baking a souffle. Jerry Hall to provide the petit dejeuner compris - two eggs sunny side up. And for light relief - Harry Hill as Brian Eno...what are the chances of that happening eh? Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Han Snijders Sent: 28 November 2000 20:04 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film It's a film recorded from the point of view of a famous webdesigner. While working on his RMsite ROXYDRAMA you see a kind of flashbacks of the BF/RM story....but you also see what's happening in the future! At this point it's confirmed that: Catherine Deneuve plays JH at the age of 65. Al Pacino plays Bryan Ferry J Irons plays Anthony Price. and John Travolta plays the role of the webdesigner Especially the dramatic split between Bryan and Anthony after an interview about Bryan's lasting love for Jerry Hall is heartbreaking! The most Hilarious part is the scene in which the family is sitting round the dinnertable, Lucy H read the daily avalonmails to the children who have to guess who is the writer. Han > I have decided to ask probably a slightly tragic question but there you are, > it has provided endless hours of fun for me. > > If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can > extend beyond band-members etc. I have to say that no, none of you > Avalonians can play BF (remember what Chris Turner said about every man on > the list) or JH (and end up deconstructed by the great and the good on the > list). > > Any thoughts? > Cheers > Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:37:38 +0100 From: "C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) >a huge hardback German tome by Jurgen Wanda called >Re-Make/Re-Model - Die Geschichte von (The History Of) Roxy Music, Bryan >Ferry and Brian Eno. Delmere's expanded discography has been augmented by >individual chapters on each band member, and each individual album release. >I thought I knew the back catalogue pretty well but there are very few >omissions to my eyes, and some entries that were new to me. I own that book and I have to agree, the discography is excellent indeed. There are also some interesting quotations in that book. And yet: if you share what obviously seems to be Wanda's (no fish in here) opinion, that the length of a sentence should not exceed six words and in addition to that, stating several contradictory opinions on one page is a good piece of journalism, this is the book for you, dear Avalonian. The record is good. The record is no good. Conclusion: The record is good and no good and that's good. But it's also no good that it's good, because it's not good that it's not that good. No Hegelian synthesis or whatever here. Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:53:37 -0000 From: "Therese O'Donnell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film Now, now Chris & Han I think you're taking this far too seriously(!) I think that there may be mileage in an Ingmar Bergmanesque interpretation of the history of Avalon.... with sequins and leopardskin of course. My take on the actors to play the band was as follows Phil Manzanera: Joseph Fiennes Brian Eno: Steve Buscemi ( I think he could pull it off) Eddie Jobson: Johnny Lee Miller (has to be someone vaguely boyish) Paul Thompson: Daniel Craig (I think this is who I mean - strong, Northern, silent type) Andy MacKay: Daniel Day Lewis (he has the cheekbones) Bryan Ferry: John Cusack/Kyle McLachlan and in older age, possibly Jeremy Irons LF: Cate Blanchett with a wig. Plot-wise, let's just say I'd be a fairly undemanding audience. However, I think as the undisputed genius behind this string I would want the part of Amanda Lear, always fancied being accessorised by a panther on a diamante chain. You get a lot of call for that in Glasgow. In November. In torrential rain. Sigh. Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:44:36 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film This version will initially see Bryan Ferry portrayed in his earlier years by Hugh Grant, then in his later years portrayed by Al Pacino - partly because they look alike, and partly because he becomes involved in bitter legal dispute involving lots of shouty court room scenes with Anthony Price (played by Laurence Llewellen Bowen) after AP mucks up the decor in Ferry's New York apartment during a two day "make over." The court sides with Price after learning that Ferry took 5 years to finish the make over on Anthony's house and BF loses custody of the apartment. Jerry Hall would not appear in the movie as it would be far to controversial, and frankly the W.W.W. could not handle the strain. Mick Jagger would be an absurd looking CGI character (possibly renamed Ja Ga Binks - "messer honky tonk woman") Ewan McGreagor would play Ferry in the Prequels in which he starts of in a Boy Band and slowly turns to the Darker Side. Regards Neil Jones (first time contributor - Hi by the way!) > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 01:47:46 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Artsworld Hi all... Just spotted a new Channel coming to Sky Digital here in the UK, beginning transmissions on Dec 2nd, called 'Artsworld'. Had a browse through their listings for next month, and found this : Saturday 30th December, 8pm. Bryan Ferry in Concert. "Ferry sings 30s favourites and Roxy Music hits in an exclusive Artsworld concert". Exclusive ? I wonder. Anyone know anything about this - which Gig it could be ? I know RFH was filmed, would very much like it to be that. Or could it be G. Green ? Was that filmed ? Or will they trot out the rather sub-standard (sorry) Paris Gig ? (No, the Gig itself was brill - but the filming/sound recording of it leaves one hell of a lot to be desired to say the least !). Nothing on their new Site yet www.artsworld.com but will keep scouring for more info. Unfortunately, it's a subscription channel for #6 a month, which is fine unless you have to subscribe for a year, and put up with lots of documentaries about Lesley Garrett. Will try to find out more info though... Anyone know any details ? Reecey... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be afraid. www.albumzone.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:04:12 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Artsworld BF Gig info Just found out - the BF Concert to be shown on 'Artsworld' at 8pm on Saturday, December 30th, is Cirque Royal, Brussels, from Feb 9, 2000. Reecey... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be afraid. www.albumzone.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:41:04 -0500 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film Lucy Ferry = Natasha Gregson Wagner (no more, no less) - --TriTri ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:02:12 -0800 From: Ida M Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film I would like to see BF played by that young hunk who was also in Velvet Goldmine .. Christian Bale, or something like that. And, if Richard O'Brien were 25 +/- years younger, I think he could be a physically convincing Eno. Whenever I see him as Riff-Raff in Rocky Horror Picture Show, I am always reminded of Eno! Ida Thirhse O'Donnell wrote: > If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can > extend beyond band-members etc. > > Any thoughts? > Cheers > Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:37:25 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again Yes. Your ironic Englishman is likely to be putting up a front behind which lurks a snakepit of insecurity. Witness also Andy Partridge of XTC fame. Now you're flirting with ironee-ee-ee-ee, or is it .... ? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KB Porter Sent: 28 November 2000 13:56 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail, kiss me again Good sensible work, Christian. I agree "there has always been a dark edge in Bryan's music and lyrics (witness the not-that-ironic Strictly Confidential) that served and still serves to make them so unique." Also, Ferry's method of construction surely has a subtle impact upon the way his output feels to the listener. A very valid variable, indeed! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:37:27 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) Tee hee. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Martin Stockman Sent: 28 November 2000 20:01 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Exceptionally and Excessively Long and Nerdy Post For Obsessives About Incomprehensibly Trivial and Peripheral Stuff (No Jerry Hall Content) - ---------- >From: "Chris Turner" > > The books are interesting. Some of you may be familiar with the work of Dr > Johannes Delmere, whose web site contains a detailed discography of Roxy and > all the members' various side projects. You may be aware that Delmere issued > this material as a small book in 1985. I've just got hold of a copy from the > original print run of 200 (signed copy number 9!) It is a remarkable work of > research. Yeah, but what's his take on the Bry, Jerry, Mick triangle ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:37:28 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Pretend film ROTFLOL! UTCB!! (Unable to continue breakfast.) This humoresqueness must stop., or I will have to read my mails at some other time of day! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Han Snijders Sent: 28 November 2000 20:04 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film It's a film recorded from the point of view of a famous webdesigner. While working on his RMsite ROXYDRAMA you see a kind of flashbacks of the BF/RM story....but you also see what's happening in the future! At this point it's confirmed that: Catherine Deneuve plays JH at the age of 65. Al Pacino plays Bryan Ferry J Irons plays Anthony Price. and John Travolta plays the role of the webdesigner Especially the dramatic split between Bryan and Anthony after an interview about Bryan's lasting love for Jerry Hall is heartbreaking! The most Hilarious part is the scene in which the family is sitting round the dinnertable, Lucy H read the daily avalonmails to the children who have to guess who is the writer. Han > I have decided to ask probably a slightly tragic question but there you are, > it has provided endless hours of fun for me. > > If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can > extend beyond band-members etc. I have to say that no, none of you > Avalonians can play BF (remember what Chris Turner said about every man on > the list) or JH (and end up deconstructed by the great and the good on the > list). > > Any thoughts? > Cheers > Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 07:37:30 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Pretend film !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :0))))))))))) etc. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Chris Turner Sent: 28 November 2000 21:28 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Pretend film ...that guy Han, why I oughtta... My spin on this is a film set in a small boarding house in the French Alps. Title: Coathanger! Antony Price to be played by Sylvester Stallone in a big hat, Ferry originally to play himself (but to be replaced by John Lithgow at the last possible moment) Everyone speaks French with Dutch subtitles except Ferry, who says only 'Ahm from Newcassel me' and 'where's Bukke?' whilst simultaneously baking a souffle. Jerry Hall to provide the petit dejeuner compris - two eggs sunny side up. And for light relief - Harry Hill as Brian Eno...what are the chances of that happening eh? Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Han Snijders Sent: 28 November 2000 20:04 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film It's a film recorded from the point of view of a famous webdesigner. While working on his RMsite ROXYDRAMA you see a kind of flashbacks of the BF/RM story....but you also see what's happening in the future! At this point it's confirmed that: Catherine Deneuve plays JH at the age of 65. Al Pacino plays Bryan Ferry J Irons plays Anthony Price. and John Travolta plays the role of the webdesigner Especially the dramatic split between Bryan and Anthony after an interview about Bryan's lasting love for Jerry Hall is heartbreaking! The most Hilarious part is the scene in which the family is sitting round the dinnertable, Lucy H read the daily avalonmails to the children who have to guess who is the writer. Han > I have decided to ask probably a slightly tragic question but there you are, > it has provided endless hours of fun for me. > > If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can > extend beyond band-members etc. I have to say that no, none of you > Avalonians can play BF (remember what Chris Turner said about every man on > the list) or JH (and end up deconstructed by the great and the good on the > list). > > Any thoughts? > Cheers > Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:04:20 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Pretend film Did anyone else think that the Dracula character in the new season opener of Buffy The Vampire Slayer resembled the young Eno to an uncanny degree? Right down to the overbite (though in this case it was due to plastic fangs!) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Ida M Miller Sent: 29 November 2000 07:02 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pretend film I would like to see BF played by that young hunk who was also in Velvet Goldmine .. Christian Bale, or something like that. And, if Richard O'Brien were 25 +/- years younger, I think he could be a physically convincing Eno. Whenever I see him as Riff-Raff in Rocky Horror Picture Show, I am always reminded of Eno! Ida Thirhse O'Donnell wrote: > If you were to make a film-biog of RM/BF who would play who? This can > extend beyond band-members etc. > > Any thoughts? > Cheers > Therese ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #417 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest