From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #398 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, November 7 2000 Volume 05 : Number 398 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Y Kant Ivor Read ? ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Open Sesame... ["Ivor Canning" ] RE: [AVALON] Born on the Bry-ou ["=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=] RE: [AVALON] off subject - King Crimson ["eRacerX" ] Re: [AVALON] Stylish people ["Rachel Smither" ] Re: [AVALON] Stylish people [Julialiva@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:45:52 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Y Kant Ivor Read ? A penny for Guy's thoughts: > Well Ivor, since it was actually a Tiger Moth, you could have got away with > a Fokker gag just as easily as a Camel pun... > :0) > Guy > not a plane expert, just able to read tiny type (in a good light, anyway!) Yes, I too had read the photo caption on my own copy of 'Carpers & Preen'. The point to bear in mind though, Guy, is that had the plane been a Fokker then the natural pedant in me would have been *forced* to state the glaringly obvious thus killing the joke dead in its tracks (maybe not such a bad idea at that...) Regards, Ivor. n.p. Gentle Giant 'In A Glass House' - remastered at last !! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:58:11 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Open Sesame... Han is having a sunny day, sweeping the clouds away: > Bought a live album of him in the late seventies, Very funny lyrics. > Remember a song called 'cookenhaken'. And ' I'm a little airplane ', > Ice-cream man: obvious strongly influenced by Bert and Ernie. 'I'm a Little Airplane' was used regularly on Sesame Street in recent times (in one of their 'playing in the park' film sequences). After Petworth, I suspect a number of the Netherlands contingent are strongly influenced by Bert and Ernie, too...S8^) Regards, Ivor (aged 7, nearly 8) n.p. still Gentle Giant - IAGH ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:36:15 -0000 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=?=" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Born on the Bry-ou I'm sorry but that's terrifying. Therese > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Chris Turner > Sent: 05 November 2000 15:52 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Born on the Bry-ou > > > Check the track listing on this eBay item - > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=489193824 Has a bonus track ever been more incongruous? Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:33:20 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: RE: [AVALON] off subject - King Crimson - -----Original Message----- From: Will Frechette > ::KingCrimson > As a sidebar they would actually provide the Maestro with an unbelievably >heavy backup band. ...recreating For Your Pleasure, and select songs from the first record, Stranded and Country Life. A dream. Old school, -H. np: For the Love of Harry, Everybody Sings Nilsson ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:30:14 EST From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Jonathan Richman (no BF) In einer eMail vom 05.11.00 21:59:05 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt idafan@home.com: << So ... how big a crowd does he draw? Is the audience familiar with his work? Do they seem to be established fans, or checking him out based on word of mouth? >> He early records have been very populaire here in Germany. Unfortunately he does not get any air-play (like so many other good artists) these days; I think he's a talented, original song-writer, he's not scared of simplicity but it never sounds flat...and yes, he has a good sense of humour (just like the Violent Femmes!) Good to hear these people are still around! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 06:40:44 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] off subject - King Crimson In a message dated 11/03/2000 11:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, will@execpc.com writes: << I did go to the King Crimson show last night in Milwaukee. Oh yeah baby! They were four piece with the drummer from Mr. Mr. replacing Bill Bruford and Trey Gunn replacing Tony Levin along with Mr. Belew and Mr. Fripp. It was quite fantastic in a small theater with Adrian Belew doing an acoustic solo version of Three of a perfect Pair and the energy of a small nuclear device going off at close proximity. They did a killer version of Red and the overall effect of the show was not at all unlike doing good acid. Freaking magnificent! Fripp is indeed the Les Paul of our time and on top of that Mr. Belew would have to be looked at as the "lead" guitarist of the band as he almost exclusively does all of the solos. Mr. Fripp providing the insanely fanatical main base of the music. Arnie you would have died! >> Thanks, Will, I'm sure I would have loved it. As is always the case these days, King Crimson isn't coming anywhere near where I live and so I will not have an opportunity to catch this tour. I have both the newest KC album and the companion "ProjeKCt X" album (same personnel, different sound) and much prefer the PX stuff. Do you know if they played any of that material in the show? Hard to believe that Belew is featured as the lead guitarist. On record it's usually hard to tell who's doing what but in person or on video it's usually clear that Fripp is the main guitarist and Belew does the "noises" and accompaniment, though that is not intended as a slight to Adrian. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:01:22 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] off subject - Kcourting Crimso Will sees light being construKcted: > It was quite fantastic in a small theater with Adrian Belew doing an > acoustic solo version of Three of a perfect Pair and the energy of a > small nuclear device going off at close proximity. The sole UK gig in London (what is it with these American bands S;^)) was in a small space too and almost painfully loud (the PA was aimed squarely at head height, with most of the audience standing). I was really impressed with Trey Gunn, whom I had unfairly dismissed as a light-weight - his Warr guitar playing is truly liquid and lyrical, free from the shadow of Levin's more muscular, powerful style. Belew was grinning so broadly it made my facial muscles ache in sympathy. > As a sidebar they would actually provide the Maestro with an unbelievably > heavy backup band. I think the shock would probably hospitalise him, in all seriousness - he'd be a nervous wreck after all that incandescent fury, never mind having to sing lyrics about specks of lint in dubious places S;^) Regards, Ivor. n.p. Bowie - Santa Monica 1972 ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:51:50 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Y Kant Ivor Read ? Oops! Didn't mean to offend there! I didn't know that you had also splashed out on Harpers. If you'd only seen the website pics you wouldn't have known, and certainly all the other web-viewers wouldn't. What the hell... it's still pun of the year, at least since I've been aboard the good ship Avalon! Yrs post-pedantically Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Ivor Canning Sent: 06 November 2000 09:46 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Y Kant Ivor Read ? A penny for Guy's thoughts: > Well Ivor, since it was actually a Tiger Moth, you could have got away with > a Fokker gag just as easily as a Camel pun... > :0) > Guy > not a plane expert, just able to read tiny type (in a good light, anyway!) Yes, I too had read the photo caption on my own copy of 'Carpers & Preen'. The point to bear in mind though, Guy, is that had the plane been a Fokker then the natural pedant in me would have been *forced* to state the glaringly obvious thus killing the joke dead in its tracks (maybe not such a bad idea at that...) Regards, Ivor. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:14:59 -0000 From: "Rachel Smither" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stylish people - -----Original Message----- From: kevin routley To: Avalon Discussion Group Date: 06 November 2000 20.00 Subject: [AVALON] Stylish people >what every one is missing is it doesnt matter who you are its the person that dresses you. the designers. i think the best dressed people are the designers because they decide what we wear.. some one like john galliono is a well healed fellow as well as armani who is a lot older than bryan him self. also while on the subject in a recent interview phillip treacy said that he gets bored with pop stars and super models coming in his shop and he gets more pleasure from serving normal people? also i think that a lot of black people are very styish. as when you see style coming from the ghettos and crossing into the world of pop. say no more kevin > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:55:42 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] off subject - Kcourting Crimso Did Adrian do the acoustic solo thing of Three of a Perfect Pair? Just as he was going into it his voice totally broke and he screached to an abrupt halt saying "wow, you can't tell I smoke pot". It was great. Went right back into it and wowed us. And you're right about Trey Gunn, I wasn't sure how it would be but he was awesome. The only lack in my opinion was the absence of Bruford...and that's "Aspic" not "ass pick". Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivor Canning" > Will sees light being construKcted: > > > It was quite fantastic in a small theater with Adrian Belew doing an > > acoustic solo version of Three of a perfect Pair and the energy of a > > small nuclear device going off at close proximity. > > The sole UK gig in London (what is it with these American bands S;^)) was in > a small space too and almost painfully loud (the PA was aimed squarely at > head height, with most of the audience standing). I was really impressed > with Trey Gunn, whom I had unfairly dismissed as a light-weight - his Warr > guitar playing is truly liquid and lyrical, free from the shadow of Levin's > more muscular, powerful style. Belew was grinning so broadly it made my > facial muscles ache in sympathy. > > > As a sidebar they would actually provide the Maestro with an > unbelievably > > heavy backup band. > > I think the shock would probably hospitalise him, in all seriousness - he'd > be a nervous wreck after all that incandescent fury, never mind having to > sing lyrics about specks of lint in dubious places S;^) > > Regards, > > Ivor. > > n.p. Bowie - Santa Monica 1972 > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:29:09 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Stylish people In a message dated 11/6/0 8:38:00 PM, you wrote: <> Well if that's the case,I can only be thankfull that BF has had the good taste to seek out the more traditional tastemakers ofJermyn St/Saville Row than the fashion victim ,hypemongers of the modern runway scene. If Hilfiger ever sponsored a Ferry tour,I would "Throw my towel in!"From what I have seen of many youg generation designers,they are the Least stylish,and in no way do anything to promote otherwise! Style comes from within the person.It is having the ability to realise just what you can.and can not get away with?It is the ability to realise that just because you spend a months wages on the latest-must have'Label",doesn't mean that you will look any better,contrary to all the bollocks you may have read/seen etc. Style is too often aligned and confused with fashion.Sometimes they meet and mate.More often than not,the most stylish people recognise fashion,but are astute enough to know when to avoid it......... Regards, DM (Avalonia Wear Daily) Well i'm drunk today............................ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 01:42:42 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] off subject - Kcourting Crimso Will makes a study in despair: > Did Adrian do the acoustic solo thing of Three of a Perfect Pair? He did, prefacing it by saying "Ever wonder what just ONE of these guys sounds like on his own ? I do !" > The only lack in my opinion was the absence of > Bruford...and that's "Aspic" not "ass pick". Well, of course, I do miss Bruford's playing but I don't think Bruford/Gunn would work so well as a rhythm section. Bruford's lighter, dry drum sound really complements the solid rhythmic punch of bassists like Wetton and Levin - they don't compete for the same musical space. I think it needs the denser tone of someone like Pat Mastellotto to balance out Trey Gunn's lighter, more melodic playing in order to provide the necessary punch. With luck, the ProjeKcts thing will continue and we'll get the best of both worlds ! Regards, Ivor. n.p. 801 Live At Hull ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 20:00:50 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Cor Eddie, that's really feelgood... > > np: Time-Life Sounds of the Seventies: Punk and New Wave > (no kidding - just came in the mail, an ebay find) > Hey, I got a copy of that one at a used cd store. Pretty good collection. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:13:33 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Stylish people Confused. Is this some kind of parody? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Rachel Smither Sent: 06 November 2000 20:15 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stylish people - -----Original Message----- From: kevin routley To: Avalon Discussion Group Date: 06 November 2000 20.00 Subject: [AVALON] Stylish people >what every one is missing is it doesnt matter who you are its the person that dresses you. the designers. i think the best dressed people are the designers because they decide what we wear.. some one like john galliono is a well healed fellow as well as armani who is a lot older than bryan him self. also while on the subject in a recent interview phillip treacy said that he gets bored with pop stars and super models coming in his shop and he gets more pleasure from serving normal people? also i think that a lot of black people are very styish. as when you see style coming from the ghettos and crossing into the world of pop. say no more kevin ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 03:49:20 EST From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stylish people In einer eMail vom 07.11.00 02:50:33 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt KRNCHSE@aol.com: << Well if that's the case,I can only be thankfull that BF has had the good taste to seek out the more traditional tastemakers ofJermyn St/Saville Row than the fashion victim ,hypemongers of the modern runway scene. >> Here we go again, isn't that labelling yourself with something too and you just accept it because it is british? I thought we've gone through this but I guess some people still think in this "british is best"-tradition. Speaks for Ferry that he is choosing italian labels on stage as it certainly fits him better. Speaking of style I think Ferry has had his good (recently, especially on tour) and bad times (remember the late Roxy-period, this horrible pink leather-suit!) and I prefer him when he does not overdress. I guess we all agree that designers usually make the clothes, it does not necessary make them the best dressed people and it doesn't automatically make the people who wear this clothes "best dressed" or "stylish". It depends on the person who wears it and i f it suits this person at all. Personally I think Ferry looked really stylish in the seventies period when he was (Elvis-like) wearing simple blue-jeans and a black t-shirt. Suits "suit" him too but I don't like some of his accessoires, bit too pretentious for my taste; too obvious, just too much. What a discussion...I don't think his taste for (usually exspensive) clothes depends on his music. Greta Garbo could look ever so stylish even when she was wearing a really old jumper. Less is more, that's my personal taste. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #398 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest