From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #367 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, October 13 2000 Volume 05 : Number 367 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] The subtleties of Ferry [nick williams ] Re: [AVALON] Bogus Man Part II ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy's Swedish Love Night ["Ferdinand Biesheuvel" ] Re: [AVALON] The 39 Steps. My View. [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] The 39 Steps. My View. ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? [Daniel Atterbom ] RE: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? ["Prince of Happiness" ] Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? ["Martijn Gussekloo" ] [AVALON] Those damn Parisian record shops ["Johnny Reece" ] Re: [AVALON] Those damn Parisian record shops ["organism-001" Subject: [AVALON] The subtleties of Ferry > > I don't think that the subtle and nuanced work of Mr. Ferry can (or > should) be reduced to mere plot recapitulation. > > Colleen > As it happens I do believe that "The 39 Steps" is probably the most multi-layered lyrical piece on Mamouna (I said as much a couple of weeks ago). But your post implies that every one of Ferry's songs must have some kind of hidden message? It's always possible that there aren't any hidden messages. You imply that all (100%) of Ferry's work is subtle and nuanced and that's insulting to his diverse back catalogue IMO. What about Roxy's first two albums, what about Sign of the Times (written about the punk explosion)? If Ferry felt constrained to write everything subtly then we would have a lot less to celebrate. Ferry was greatly inspired by the movies and, as a matter of fact, he has a history of treating the cinema with respect in his body of work. Take a look at 2HB. This is a very straight tribute to Humphrey Bogart's role in Casablanca. There aren't any hidden themes, just an appreciation for an inspirational film. Similarly "3 & 9" is a charming indication of the affection that Ferry had for the cinema in the 1950's/ 60's. As a boy the movies introduced Ferry to many of the songs on As Time Goes By. The album is a very respectful tribute to the period. So if the evidence was anything to go by then "The 39 Steps" should be viewed as a straightforward tribute to the movie in the same way as 2HB. Besides if Ferry can cover dozens upon dozens of other people's songs then it's well within the bounds of possibility that he can recapitulate film plots. You might not be comfortable with this but it may well be the reality. Nick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 09:48:38 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bogus Man Part II The Bogus Man Part 2 probably because The Bogus Man and Grey Lagoons were often performed back to back (as on the album, not even a gap between them, just a breath from the Bogus Man and head on into Grey Lagoons). And it wasn't included on either of those compilations as it's possibly the weakest track on FYP (go on, flame me!). It was a great live song though, a real rockunroll stomper, something that is lost on the studio version.....I feel! SimonG >>> Stephen Pepperrell 10/11 8:03 pm >>> Does anyone know why Blue Lagoons is also referred to as "Bogus Man Part II" - what's the meaning behind this ? any why was this not included on either The Thrill of it All nor the latest Roxy Music Compilation ? thanks for any info, Stephen ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:30:59 +0200 From: "Ferdinand Biesheuvel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy's Swedish Love Night is there anybody who can help me finding sheet music of Sonet n#18 thanks Ferdinand - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Turner To: Avalon Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:08 PM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy's Swedish Love Night > Hi, > > I've put a further four articles up at www.roxyrama.com including the > intriguingly titled Roxy's Swedish Love Night... > > Chris > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 07:12:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] The subtleties of Ferry On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, nick williams wrote: [...] > Mamouna (I said as much a couple of weeks ago). But > your post implies that every one of Ferry's songs must > have some kind of hidden message? It's always > possible that there aren't any hidden messages. You > imply that all (100%) of Ferry's work is subtle and > nuanced and that's insulting to his diverse back > catalogue IMO. What about Roxy's first two albums, You inferred all of that from what I wrote. I implied no such thing. [...] > Besides if Ferry can cover dozens upon dozens of other > people's songs then it's well within the bounds of > possibility that he can recapitulate film plots. You > might not be comfortable with this but it may well be > the reality. If you view Mr. Ferry's covers as mere covers (the exception being the disappointing _As Time Goes By_), then I can see why you feel comfortable with plot recapitulation as song analysis. To each his or her own. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:08:51 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] The 39 Steps. My View. I agree with Colleen. Bryan Ferry's work should not be reduced to a flattened dimension - it seems too calculated and artificial to attribute lyrics to only a story line. I tend to think of Hitchcock's "The Thirty-Nine Steps" as a platform or springboard that possibly fueled Mr. Ferry's creative process. I've watched "The Thirty-Nine Steps" a few times over many years, and I may be dense or maybe just not paying too much attention to the movie, but I still don't know what "The Thirty-Nine Steps" are - literally: Just what operation, exactly, does the code name "The Thirty-Nine Steps" describe? The movie's elements of intrigue and suspense are shared in common with Bryan Ferry's "The 39 Steps". Also, I've wondered what, exactly, is the meaning of the song. Ferry's "The 39 Steps" always struck me as a complex, multidimensional composition. Overall, I view it as a two step deal:) In the first part, the base sets a steady, strong heartbeat imparting a sense of purpose. Suspense and anticipation builds when high musical tones begin to swirl about as if many manic thoughts are melding, adding to the driving force that will be constant throughout the first three stanzas. These lyrics speak about immediate basic needs, necessary current decisions, and disposable time. Must maintain. The second part begins as a musical transition with guitars searing and fidgeting, metal sizzling as though underlying thoughts are ever present and pathetic. A dutiful beat humanely persists, indicating continuing life. Subtle female voice overlays "the 39 steps" releases the psychosis. At the core of the matter - the foundation upon which today's psyche was built lie in the past's influence - the last two stanzas economize words by slighted position and minor alteration. Comprehensive within, wanting something unobtainable and satiating, dealing with lost love and broken heart, living with troubling thoughts and needing to be understood. The heart tapers, the driving beat dies into a finality. This is life. OK, if you think I have a vivid imagination, you must not be a very Ferry fan. In my more lucid hours, I can see he can fly! Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:53:31 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The 39 Steps. My View. >>> KB Porter 10/12 4:08 pm >>> >Ferry's "The 39 Steps" always struck me as a complex, multidimensional >composition. Overall, I view it as a two step deal:) And then one step back! Obviously the complex and multidimentia aspects of this particular composition is not the music. The needle's stuck the needle's stuck the needle's stuck the needle's stuck (and don't read any drug references into that anyone). Not one of the most "progressive" pieces of music he's produced. "Where do we go from here?". To the next song please! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:18:03 CDT From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? Here's a shallow question in all things Ferry: What the hell is CPL 593H, or what does it mean? I'm referring to the "chorus" on Remake/Remodel of course... The PrinceofHappines "When you're surrounded by a simple chain of events, eventually you'll shake those shackles off"-Echo and the Bunnymen, "The Back of Love" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:53:40 +0200 From: "Martijn Gussekloo" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? I once read it was the car-license-plate (is that an English word?) of Bryan's car. It's obviously a metaphor for cosmic things. === "Some things will never change. They must be destroyed." - -Claude Delanney (1807) === ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:54:12 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? At 18.23 +0200 0-10-12, Prince of Happiness wrote: >Here's a shallow question in all things Ferry: What the hell is CPL 593H, >or what does it mean? I'm referring to the "chorus" on Remake/Remodel of >course... A number plate, a registration on a car. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:47:39 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? CPL 593H was the registration plate of the car of a passing lovely that Bryan's young eyes fell upon only for him to be instantly smitten by her beauty. Hence "She's the sweetest queen I've ever seen" etc. This was in the days of Newcastle University and the memory lingered on. I remember reading somewhere that years later he spotted the same car registration and skulked in the shadows,, heart in throat to see the owner. By now the car had been sold on and the person who returned to the car left our man unrequited. Bizarrely enough, I happened on a very late night showing of Moby doing a programme on Channel 4 last night, called something like All Back To My Place. On it he was invited to make up an album of his favourite life changing ditties. Remake-Remodel blasted out accompanied by colour saturated video and a caption saying that CPL 593H now belongs to a blue Morris Traveller. Moby certainly knew his Roxy inside out. Bryan.... the phone....call him now. This was followed up by a video of Bowie doing Wild Is The Wind, my favourite Bowie vid. Needless to say I went to bed a happy woman. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Martijn Gussekloo [mailto:gusart@bigfoot.com] Sent: 12 October 2000 17:54 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? I once read it was the car-license-plate (is that an English word?) of Bryan's car. It's obviously a metaphor for cosmic things. === "Some things will never change. They must be destroyed." - -Claude Delanney (1807) === ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:02:38 CDT From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? >I once read it was the car-license-plate (is that an English word?) of >Bryan's car. >It's obviously a metaphor for cosmic things. Hmmm, so kinda like a "catch that girl, get her plate" thing? Yes, license plate's an English(or at least, American as far as I know) word. Cosmic? Things? Cosmic things? I do seem to recall that in Communion, Whitley Strieber did report that the grey aliens did repeat that sequence to each other frequently. It seems that they search for Eno, whom they consider a lost "brother." The PrinceofHappines "When you're surrounded by a simple chain of events, eventually you'll shake those shackles off"-Echo and the Bunnymen, "The Back of Love" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:07:40 CDT From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: RE: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? >CPL 593H was the registration plate of the car of a passing lovely that >Bryan's young eyes fell upon only for him to be instantly smitten by her >beauty. :) I wonder who that lady was... Moby certainly knew his Roxy inside out. Bryan.... the >phone....call him now. A Moby/Ferry/Moby collaboration would be interesting to say the least! But would Ferry want to be overshadowed yet again by someone doing electronic treatments of music? Certainly he would be in the eyes of younger people, most of whom don't know who he is. Amongst us, however, we know who's who... ;) >This was followed up by a video of Bowie doing Wild Is The Wind, my >favourite Bowie vid. *deeeeeeeep breath* Gasp! Bowie did a video of Wild is the Wind? Did he do any others off of Station to Station? That album's my favorite-est ever... The PrinceofHappines "When you're surrounded by a simple chain of events, eventually you'll shake those shackles off"-Echo and the Bunnymen, "The Back of Love" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:26:09 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? - ---------- >From: Jocelyn Fiske > > Bizarrely enough, I happened on a very late night showing of Moby doing a > programme on Channel 4 last night, called something like All Back To My > Place. On it he was invited to make up an album of his favourite life > changing ditties. Remake-Remodel blasted out accompanied by colour saturated > video and a caption saying that CPL 593H now belongs to a blue Morris > Traveller. Moby certainly knew his Roxy inside out. Bryan.... the > phone....call him now. There's something not quite right here. In 1988 an Italian pal, who ran the Benneton franchises in Chelsea, rang me to ask if I still liked BF. My answer will surprise no-one on this bandwith. Atillio, for that was/is his name, was a collector of vintage Engilsh cars, and told me that Bryan's old Morris Traveller - olive green - was presently being offered by a dealer buddy of his for the princely sum of £750. Bryan had been the original owner - but not the present - and Atillio faxed me the photocopy of the page that stated his details. Unmistakeable signature. His address, from memory, was 59 Kings Road, Chelsea - a classic sixties hipster's pied de terre. I looked lovingly at the fax. Could I justify £750 at a time that American Express was showing more than a casual interest in the resale value of my soft furnishings ? Sense prevailed. Although I sometimes wonder ... Bryan has subsequently been quoted about his love for the Morris Traveller, with its preposterous Tudor beams and surreal indicators. I've no doubt that Moby picked up on this vignette and contorted it into a story around the Remake-remodel clip. Oh and one last sad thing. The fax paper was that old style shiny stuff, that duly faded to nothing and had to be binned. It would have made an interesting item on Kicki's site and Roxyrama. Another one that got away. pip pip Martino ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:29:48 +0200 From: Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pepperrell) Subject: [AVALON] RM/BF Compilations I purchased the CD "Everything & Nothing", a compilation from David Sylvian. The double cd package includes a bonus cd, including the brilliant "Brilliant Trees". The double cd itself contains two and a half hours of re-taken, re-mastered, re-worked, re-mixed, unreleased songs etc - the complete package. Perfect. But I can't stop thinking how valuable such a package from RM/BF would be. Although it can't be expected of BF to re-take some of the RM classics, but a bitter "Nachgeschmack" remains after purchasing "Slave to Love" "The Early Years" just to mention two RM/BF compilations - which just take up space in the rack. Don't get me wrong - I'm RM/BF follower til the bitter end - but a certain disappointment remains. Re-Make - ReModel ? Nice evening to you all, Stephen ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:52:55 +0100 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Re : CPL 593H etc. I really must dig out some of my old music paper cuttings (if I can damn well find them !) as the numberplate has been referred to several times, by BF in some old interviews too, I think, from the NME, early 70s. Martinot mentioned a Kings Road address - interesting one, this, as I have all Roxys 'registration' forms for booking in to what then was The Albany Hotel, Glasgow (for the gigs at Glasgow Apollo on 8,9,10 Oct 1975) and many of the Band & entourage list their address as 63, Kings Road, which I presumed to be the address of EG Management at the time. Some of the entourage even filled in their personal addresses at the time, rather surprisingly. (Hey ! Doreen Chanter's address ! Wow !) Oh, how did I get the forms ? Well, hanging around the hotel, as I did, for 3 whole days (74 & 75 were very much 'let's follow Roxy on tour' type situations) I got to know one of the receptionists there, who procured them from the registry books when they left, and gave them to me. She also gave me the signing in forms of the Sadistic Mika Band, which thrilled me at the time, cos I thought they were cool, (and I fancied Mika, of course) though admittedly these were slightly harder to read. I still have them in one of my 'Roxyboxes' as they're known, here at home in Crouch End. Interesting footnote on this one is that her name (the receptionist) was Breda Ferry - and I kid you not. And yes, she was a fan. But then again, who wasn't ? Your own Sentimental Fool, Reecey... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be afraid. www.albumzone.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:41:01 +0200 From: "Martijn Gussekloo" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? I now find myself constantly adding the background vocals from the "Let's Stick Together" version of the song to the original version. (...queen I ever seen - oooh ooh oooh oh ooh!) I guess I like that version better, like with many others of the RM songs on that album. I also think the lyrics are brilliant, with the random sentences. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see any "deeper" meaning in this song (but I like it nontheless). Does anyone know what the chocolate gate is anyway? As with everything, chaos is the basis. Did I say cosmic things? Sorry. Mrtijn === "I never drink.... -wine-" === ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:57:52 +0100 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Those damn Parisian record shops If all goes to plan over the next week or so, I have to go to Paris again on the 19th Oct, to the 24th I think, so any tips from a few of you (and I know there's 1 or 2 of you, at least) regarding your successful soujourns to Parisian record shops for Roxy and Ferry goodies - do contact me please, as there's bound to be loads of little shops there that I haven't even found yet - and I do love to scoot around them, as you all know, so let me know of any great little Shops that you have found on your travels there, please. On that subject - Luc - where are you ? We must meet up in Paris, if you have time and are around. I'm trying to keep the Saturday free (21st Oct) so I can make the trip through to Rotterdam, meet those infamous Dutch Avalonians, and take in the gig on that night by the rather splendid Remake/Remodel. If I manage to have time to do all this, a full report will follow, and I hope to have some more news following the trip about ideas/plans for bringing the Band over to the UK, for a major meet-up/Avalonia party type situation, to hopefully happen in the next few months. And there we all were thinking the party was over, for the time being. Jamais ! Reecey... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be afraid. www.albumzone.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:17:24 CDT From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? Does anyone >know what the >chocolate gate is anyway? As with everything, chaos is the basis. > >Did I say cosmic things? Sorry. > >Mrtijn I haven't the foggiest... All I get are pictures in my head of champagne colored fountains and people sucking on Hershey Kisses while some American 1930's/1940's guy earnestly sings into an old fashioned microphone about how lonely he is, and then critiques a movie. In a nightclub, or restaurant. The PrinceofHappines "When you're surrounded by a simple chain of events, eventually you'll shake those shackles off"-Echo and the Bunnymen, "The Back of Love" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:25:12 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Those damn Parisian record shops >and take in the > gig on that night by the rather splendid Remake/Remodel. If I manage to > have time to do all this, a full report will follow, and I hope to have some > more news following the trip about ideas/plans for bringing the Band over to > the UK, for a major meet-up/Avalonia party type situation, to hopefully > happen in the next few months. Sounds like an idea looking for a budget to work it's its way up to a concept. (Translation... great notion!!!!!!) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:20:29 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? > Does anyone > >know what the > >chocolate gate is anyway? As with everything, chaos is the basis. > > > I haven't the foggiest... All I get are pictures in my head of > champagne colored fountains and people sucking on Hershey Kisses while some > American 1930's/1940's guy earnestly sings into an old fashioned microphone > about how lonely he is, and then critiques a movie. In a nightclub, or > restaurant. > > Er... Hershey Kisses??!!?? please enlighten us po' English folks, massa. (I've heard of riding the Hershey highway...) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:22:28 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Those damn Parisian record shops > Sounds like an idea looking for a budget to work it's its way up to a > concept. (Translation... great notion!!!!!!) > > Please forgive that stray apostrophe. I do'nt know what came over me. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:28:34 +0100 From: "David Kenning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RM/BF Compilations, CPL 593H and the 39 Steps > But I can't stop thinking how valuable such a package from RM/BF > would be. Although it can't be expected of BF to re-take some > of the RM classics, but a bitter "Nachgeschmack" remains after > purchasing "Slave to Love" "The Early Years" just to mention > two RM/BF compilations - which just take up space in the rack. Hello all, I'm a new subscriber, so it's satisfying that I've actually got something worth saying (I hope) as my first post to the list. I got into Roxy Music somewhat belatedly (I was a bit young first time round for them to have had a real influence on me) and my principal point of access was the 4 CD compilation 'The Thrill Of It All', which came out in 1995. (Discs 1-3 cover the three main periods of Roxy Music in chronological order, featuring almost all the album tracks [a few omitted for space], disc 4 is the singles and b-sides, inc stuff like The Numberer and South Downs.) I'm old enough to remember the singles from Manifesto and Avalon, and of course Jealous Guy, but that was about it for me until I found this in my other half's record collection a couple of years ago. (But my interest in Roxy was aroused before that, after hearing 'In Every Dream Home...' on Out On Blue 6, a new/old 'alternative' music show on BBC Radio 1 from around 89-91 -- that is, I think, the only song I know that has had such an impact on me that I can remember exactly where I was and what I was doing the first time I heard it.) Anyway, as far as I am concerned, this is a pretty good compilation -- encyclopaedic, historical and definitive. (It's also interesting to read the press quotes, e.g. from Melody Maker, 1971: "Personally, I've never felt so excited about a band before. They haven't got a manager, they haven't got an agent, and they haven't got a recording contract, but mark my words, within a matter of months, they'll be bloody enormous.") On the matter CPL 593H, I can only confirm what others have said -- it's the registration of Bryan's car, for which I would happily pay £750. The plates alone have to be worth double that, even if the car itself is scrap. On the subject of the 39 Steps I can add nothing interesting or helpful with regard to the song, but I can tell you that John Buchan lived in Broadstairs (seaside town in Kent, SE England, and where I am from originally) and *the* 39 steps actually still exist there today -- they are steps cut into the cliff which smugglers used to gain access to the clifftop from the beach. The actual 39 steps have no significance to the novel, but a bit of trivia never hurt anyone. OK, that's quite enough for a debut post... dave ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:44:00 CDT From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CPL 593H? Huh? >Er... Hershey Kisses??!!?? please enlighten us po' English folks, massa. > >(I've heard of riding the Hershey highway...) Ew... Nothing like that! Hershey's Kisses are these little chocolate bits, they kinda look like rain drops. For the longest time I thought Bryan said chocolate drop, instead of chocolate gate, but the picture is stuck in my head now... The PrinceofHappines "When you're surrounded by a simple chain of events, eventually you'll shake those shackles off"-Echo and the Bunnymen, "The Back of Love" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:00:12 +0100 From: terry.lane@rs-components.com Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : CPL 593H etc. Great story Reecey,I think you should write a book on your Ferry/Roxy experiences down the years. You are right about the EG Management address it was 63a Kings Road, I remember hanging around outside in the early 80s hoping to catch a glimpse of Ferry,I also sent a few letters requesting a back stage pass (never got one ) I still keep the `knock back ` letters in my Roxy box. How are the plans for the Avalon gathering (I sound like a broken record) Terry - -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Reece [mailto:johnny.reece@virgin.net] Sent: 12 October 2000 21:53 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Re : CPL 593H etc. I really must dig out some of my old music paper cuttings (if I can damn well find them !) as the numberplate has been referred to several times, by BF in some old interviews too, I think, from the NME, early 70s. Martinot mentioned a Kings Road address - interesting one, this, as I have all Roxys 'registration' forms for booking in to what then was The Albany Hotel, Glasgow (for the gigs at Glasgow Apollo on 8,9,10 Oct 1975) and many of the Band & entourage list their address as 63, Kings Road, which I presumed to be the address of EG Management at the time. Some of the entourage even filled in their personal addresses at the time, rather surprisingly. (Hey ! Doreen Chanter's address ! Wow !) Oh, how did I get the forms ? Well, hanging around the hotel, as I did, for 3 whole days (74 & 75 were very much 'let's follow Roxy on tour' type situations) I got to know one of the receptionists there, who procured them from the registry books when they left, and gave them to me. She also gave me the signing in forms of the Sadistic Mika Band, which thrilled me at the time, cos I thought they were cool, (and I fancied Mika, of course) though admittedly these were slightly harder to read. I still have them in one of my 'Roxyboxes' as they're known, here at home in Crouch End. Interesting footnote on this one is that her name (the receptionist) was Breda Ferry - and I kid you not. And yes, she was a fan. But then again, who wasn't ? Your own Sentimental Fool, Reecey... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be afraid. www.albumzone.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon *************************************************************** The contents of this Email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The views stated herein do not necessarily represent the view of the company. 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