From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #357 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, October 4 2000 Volume 05 : Number 357 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Penderetsky recommendations (as I was requested) ["C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" ["Franklin R. Smith" ] Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] Re: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Ge] Re: [AVALON] Satellite Gig ? [Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pep] Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV ["Judy Kaufman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! Sorry Alex, To be concise. Was the concert good? No then yes. Not good until the real fans were allowed to come to the front. But not because the band weren't performing well, but because until then there was no atmosphere and they might have been playing to an empty room. We don't have Mafia as such, we have gangsters. They live in the East End of London and eat jellied eels with TV actresses. They will all be found there in a few days at the funeral of Reggie Kray who was a very famous English gangster/murderer/boxer/night club owner/nutter. St Petersburg was a very palatial venue and a much better concert according to the band. They celebrated Mr F's birthday there with a meal and a piano shaped cake which they didn't share with the Mafia. Jocelyn N.B To anyone thinking of going to Russia on holiday. Think of how much you would spend in a Monte Carlo casino on a losing streak then double it and that should be enough spending money to get you through a weekend. And all thanks to your good old friendly Mafia having their sticky little fingers on the country's economy. The gap between the haves and the have nots just got even wider. - -----Original Message----- From: Alex [mailto:comtek@solaris.ru] Sent: 04 October 2000 07:36 To: Avalon@Smoe.Org Subject: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! Uh, gentlemen... I'm sorry I can't get it quite right: was the Moscow concert GOOD or wasn't it? You prefer long reviews but I have much troubles understanding them. Please, try more minimalistic approach. Noone seen him in St.Petersburg? Our Philarmonic Hall couldn't be easily turned into a restaurant. It would have been a pleasure to see the venue all upset like that. One last question: out there from where you are from do mafia-guys eat in museums? It becomes a tradition in our country - our mafia or high-level authorities pay much and then they can eat in, say, a throne-room. I know it cause I'm working for a museum. It's cool, I guess. Alex ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:49:13 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dormant or extinct? Some good points there Nick. If he did gig between recording sessions it would also keep his voice "match fit", as I thought the vocals on the ATGB album were terribly strained and thin, being beefed up by large amounts of compression and other "enhancers" in the studio. His voice has certainly regained its strength over the last year - listen to Net Aid, then compare with now. I thought he's lost it, but it seems he only misplaced it. Let's hope he now knows what to do with it. SimonG >>> nick williams 10/03 7:17 pm >>> > > Sometimes he's used other people to waken his seemingly dormant muse. Johnny > Marr comes to mind, possibly Colin Good, maybe even Eno on Mamouna. > Well he really appeared to enjoy this tour so perhaps we, the audience, are the necessary inspiration in this instance. An appreciative audience must surely give a singer the greatest satisfaction and I really do believe that Bryan (as an individual) has been appreciated on this tour more than any other. I hope he keeps playing the occasional show between sessions just to keep fresh and as a reminder of how much people like ourselves cherish his output. After all he craves public acceptance. And even if he never makes another great album, well, there you go. He's done us proud already. Anything else is a bonus. ...on another point. We would have been even more doubtful of Ferrys' writing ability at the beginning of 1994 and yet he proved us all wrong on that occasion. But you're right Chris all the signs are there. Most of Mamouna had probably already been written ten years ago. I'll stay loyal and hopeful regardless. Nick ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:46:57 +0000 From: "C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Penderetsky recommendations (as I was requested) I remember back in school about 10 years ago, I was exposed for the first time too a Pendercki piece which is, roughly translated, called "Lament For The Victims Of Hiroshima". It was one of the most eerie musical experiences I have ever had so far (until now!) and showed me that there was a lot to discover beyond the rather tonal world. Of course, I can say this in hindsight. Back then, we were very bewildered and tried to cover up our insecurity by chuckling. Sometimes things like these occur - the first time I played the very first Roxy album as a 13-year-old, I was completely confused and a bit startled, as I knew Chance Meeting, 2HB etc. from the LST LP - well, and the original versions were DIFFERENT. It began to dawn on me that music doesn't always have to sound nice. When I heard Scott Walker's excellent "Tilt" CD in 1995, this was also a similarly unique experience. Sorry for this bla-bla of mine, and no, I'm not writing my biography. Christian - ---------- >From: "Alex" >To: "Avalon@Smoe.Org" >Subject: [AVALON] Off-topic: Penderetsky recommendations (as I was requested) >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:51:25 +0400 > >Hi, > >For those who are interested in Penderetsky I would highly recommend his >"Metamorphosis" and the thing about Hiroshima only I don't know its full >name. >Anyway, he's an avant-guard Polish composer, a classical one: uses symphonic >orchestra and all that. Not like Cage, no clowning and no electronic stuff >as far as I know. He's a conductor also. >I'm not an expert in him. The CDs I guess are widely available anywhere. >Shame on pirates, there are no pirate CDs of him in Russia. I guess, he is >not popular. > >Also if anyone knows about Schulze-oriented mailing list, please, let me >know. > >Alex > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing >selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:54:49 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dumbing down Avalon - ---------- >From: "Alex" > You prefer long reviews but I have much troubles understanding them. Please, > try more minimalistic approach. I'm glad Dostoyevsky's tutor didn't dispense similar advice. Yes, this discussion is linguistically Anglocentric but it would be a sad day when Jock or Jocelyn (or Han or Christine or Colleen for that matter) felt obliged to rein in their satirical observations and ironic asides. And isn't art more complex than good or bad ? Martijno ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 09:57:47 GMT From: "Maria Yefimova" Subject: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV Dear Avalonians, Good news! :) I have a friend who works on TV, and he managed to record for me the tape that includes - -45 minutes interview with Bryan - -about 100 minutes of unedited tape with the same interview, but it has all the advantages of an unedited tape, like separate plans from different cameras (i mean first comes the like 45 mins piece filmed with the camera that was filming only Bryan, then the common plan, then the interviewer), the laughs, other funny moments and other things which are cut off in a final version, and also the original language (i mean Bryan speaking and questions translated into English) can be heard. Anyone who is interested please contact me at private e-mail msmaria@online.ru! Maria. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:26:56 +0100 From: S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! jocelyn -- have you had /that/ film developed yet ? glad you guys had an eventful trip, both yours and john's accounts were excellent. steve (who eats stottie's and pease puddin') > -----Original Message----- > From: Jocelyn Fiske [SMTP:Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:33 AM > To: 'avalon@smoe.org' > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! > > Sorry Alex, > To be concise. > Was the concert good? > No then yes. > Not good until the real fans were allowed to come to the front. > But not because the band weren't performing well, but because until then > there was no atmosphere and they might have been playing to an empty room. > We don't have Mafia as such, we have gangsters. They live in the East End > of > London and eat jellied eels with TV actresses. They will all be found > there > in a few days at the funeral of Reggie Kray who was a very famous English > gangster/murderer/boxer/night club owner/nutter. > St Petersburg was a very palatial venue and a much better concert > according > to the band. They celebrated Mr F's birthday there with a meal and a piano > shaped cake which they didn't share with the Mafia. > > Jocelyn > > N.B To anyone thinking of going to Russia on holiday. Think of how much > you > would spend in a Monte Carlo casino on a losing streak then double it and > that should be enough spending money to get you through a weekend. And all > thanks to your good old friendly Mafia having their sticky little fingers > on > the country's economy. > The gap between the haves and the have nots just got even wider. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex [mailto:comtek@solaris.ru] > Sent: 04 October 2000 07:36 > To: Avalon@Smoe.Org > Subject: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! > > > Uh, gentlemen... > > I'm sorry I can't get it quite right: was the Moscow concert GOOD or > wasn't > it? > You prefer long reviews but I have much troubles understanding them. > Please, > try more minimalistic approach. > > Noone seen him in St.Petersburg? Our Philarmonic Hall couldn't be easily > turned into a restaurant. It would have been a pleasure to see the venue > all > upset like that. > > One last question: out there from where you are from do mafia-guys eat in > museums? It becomes a tradition in our country - our mafia or high-level > authorities pay much and then they can eat in, say, a throne-room. I know > it > cause I'm working for a museum. It's cool, I guess. > > Alex > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:33:53 GMT From: "Maria Yefimova" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV Ok, but the problem is that Russian post doesn't accept videotapes for mailing abroad. There are a lot of courier and private organizations, but the shipping costs are quite high there. Well, there it is possible to send, of course. I would be happy to share the pleasure of seeing the great interview with all of you, because I think it is really worth it! Besides, my friend is planning also to get a copy of Russian MTV press conference with Bryan, so maybe it would be reasonable to include it into the same tape. I was taking pictures during the show as well, so I can either scan them and put somewhere in the net, or send originals to anyone who wishes. So, the point of my talk is that maybe I could mail the tape to someone and then this someone will distribute it among other people? Regards, Maria. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:52:55 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Barbara Windsor soup... Jocelyn adds cannibalistic ritual to the crimes of the Piranha brothers: > We don't have Mafia as such, we have gangsters. They live in the East End of > London and eat jellied eels with TV actresses. No wonder there's such a shortage of decent acting on British TV ! Carry on Nurse, the screams... Ive. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:44:00 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Klaus Schulze Alex, > For those who are interested in Penderetsky I would highly recommend his > "Metamorphosis" and the thing about Hiroshima only I don't know its full > name. Thanks for the recommendations. I shall add them to my (ever-expanding) list of music to try. > Also if anyone knows about Schulze-oriented mailing list, please, let me > know. Presuming you mean Klaus Schulze - I don't know of one, although there are a few Tangerine Dream lists around (they all seem a bit stuffy, IMO !) Still, the official site is a pretty good reference for all things KS, at www.klaus-schulze.com Regards, Ivor. n.p. Bill Nelson 'Simplex' ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:22:15 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Penderetsky recommendations (as I was requested) For Christian, hope springs 'atonal' (ouch, sorry...!): > It was one of the most eerie musical experiences > I have ever had so far (until now!) and showed me that there was a lot to > discover beyond the rather tonal world. Mackay's chilling saxophony on 'The Bogus Man' followed by Robert Fripp's guitar-playing on '(no pussyfooting)' had that effect on me. After that, listening to Schoenberg in the bath is a doddle S8^) > It began to dawn on me that music doesn't always > have to sound nice. In the sense that it doesn't have to sound predictable, I agree totally. Sometimes the music which takes longest to get into, gives the greatest reward. Which is why I rate the early Roxy albums so highly - although there was much to appreciate immediately, there was always something else to come back for... Regards, Ive. n.p. 'The Heavenly Music Corporation' - just thinking about it forced me to put it on ! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:06:13 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: Re: [AVALON] USA Fjord Pleasure Hi Judy, I'd like a copy of the Fjord Pleasure, since you're the person doing this for the USA. Thanks for taking on this task to help us all here get a copy. Sometimes we've had to send monies to England & wait. Would you Email me & let me know where to send the money & how much to cover everything. Thanks, Marlana..... ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 07:29:28 -0700 From: "Franklin R. Smith" Subject: [AVALON] Anyone know the name of the band and the albums that Ferry produced? I thought I heard that he produced some bands in the 80's? "You got me girl in a runaround....." ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:11:05 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV I'm interested in that uncut interview. Problem is that copying a video is an incredible lot of work, much more than burning a cd. Maybe we can do it in a cd-tree kind of way. One person make a copy for the other ones that make copies. I don't know how much interest there is in this video, I'm willing to make let's say twenty copies, If a few others can do that also I guess the people who want to have this can get it. cheers Han - ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Maria Yefimova Aan: Verzonden: woensdag 4 oktober 2000 13:33 Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > Ok, but the problem is that Russian post doesn't accept videotapes for > mailing abroad. There are a lot of courier and private organizations, but > the shipping costs are quite high there. Well, there it is possible to send, > of course. > > I would be happy to share the pleasure of seeing the great interview with > all of you, because I think it is really worth it! Besides, my friend is > planning also to get a copy of Russian MTV press conference with Bryan, so > maybe it would be reasonable to include it into the same tape. I was taking > pictures during the show as well, so I can either scan them and put > somewhere in the net, or send originals to anyone who wishes. > > So, the point of my talk is that maybe I could mail the tape to someone and > then this someone will distribute it among other people? > > Regards, > Maria. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:16:43 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Don't understand the reviews! Uh, gentlemen... > > I'm sorry I can't get it quite right: was the Moscow concert GOOD or wasn't > it? A Bryan Ferry concert is always good! Han ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:23:11 +0200 From: Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pepperrell) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Satellite Gig ? I tuned in, but the BF concert was cancelled. I received an email today from NDR2, mentioning that due to technical problems, they postphoned the concert until 30th October. I only now that the broadcast will be an hour's long and that it is one of BF's London concerts in December 1999. Cheers, Stephen Johnny Reece schrieb: > I completely forgot to tune in last night (Monday) to see what Gig it was, > that a German Satellite station was going to air of BF, as I was working > through the night. > Was it on ? Anyone hear it ? Which Gig was it ? > Reecey... > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:21:01 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV Hello Han, I would like to have a copy of the interview video but I have no way to make copies. We only have one vcr. Isn't the operating system for video in USA & Japan different from that of the rest of the world? I've only had a computer for 4 months now and still have much to learn so my next question may sound really stupid but here goes: Can a video be recorded to a cd-r as data to play back on computer only? If it can this would be the easiest way to share it. I'll leave the answers to those of you much more knowledgeable than myself but I will do anything I can to help with this. Judy - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > I'm interested in that uncut interview. > > Problem is that copying a video is an incredible lot of work, much more than > burning a cd. > > Maybe we can do it in a cd-tree kind of way. One person make a copy for the > other ones that make copies. > > I don't know how much interest there is in this video, I'm willing to make > let's say twenty copies, If a few others can do that also I guess the people > who want to have this can get it. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:41:48 +0100 From: "michael ferguson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV I,m prepared to make copies too Mike Ferguson - ----- Original Message ----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > I'm interested in that uncut interview. > > Problem is that copying a video is an incredible lot of work, much more than > burning a cd. > > Maybe we can do it in a cd-tree kind of way. One person make a copy for the > other ones that make copies. > > I don't know how much interest there is in this video, I'm willing to make > let's say twenty copies, If a few others can do that also I guess the people > who want to have this can get it. > > > cheers > Han > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: Maria Yefimova > Aan: > Verzonden: woensdag 4 oktober 2000 13:33 > Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > > > > Ok, but the problem is that Russian post doesn't accept videotapes for > > mailing abroad. There are a lot of courier and private organizations, but > > the shipping costs are quite high there. Well, there it is possible to > send, > > of course. > > > > I would be happy to share the pleasure of seeing the great interview with > > all of you, because I think it is really worth it! Besides, my friend is > > planning also to get a copy of Russian MTV press conference with Bryan, so > > maybe it would be reasonable to include it into the same tape. I was > taking > > pictures during the show as well, so I can either scan them and put > > somewhere in the net, or send originals to anyone who wishes. > > > > So, the point of my talk is that maybe I could mail the tape to someone > and > > then this someone will distribute it among other people? > > > > Regards, > > Maria. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:34:50 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV Somehow, let's make it happen!! I'll put up some money towards it. Can you make a really good copy rather than mailing the original? Or a good copy to keep yourself before mailing the original????? You had better do one or the other!! Sounds as if there's a good chance of it getting lost in the mail/courier service. The Org - ----- Original Message ----- From: Maria Yefimova To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > Ok, but the problem is that Russian post doesn't accept videotapes for > mailing abroad. There are a lot of courier and private organizations, but > the shipping costs are quite high there. Well, there it is possible to send, > of course. > > I would be happy to share the pleasure of seeing the great interview with > all of you, because I think it is really worth it! Besides, my friend is > planning also to get a copy of Russian MTV press conference with Bryan, so > maybe it would be reasonable to include it into the same tape. I was taking > pictures during the show as well, so I can either scan them and put > somewhere in the net, or send originals to anyone who wishes. > > So, the point of my talk is that maybe I could mail the tape to someone and > then this someone will distribute it among other people? > > Regards, > Maria. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:38:13 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV Lots of interest from me, Han. I have no facilities to copy video though. I am willing to spend some cash helping to get it out of Russia if need be !!!!! Regards the Organism - ----- Original Message ----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > I'm interested in that uncut interview. > > Problem is that copying a video is an incredible lot of work, much more than > burning a cd. > > Maybe we can do it in a cd-tree kind of way. One person make a copy for the > other ones that make copies. > > I don't know how much interest there is in this video, I'm willing to make > let's say twenty copies, If a few others can do that also I guess the people > who want to have this can get it. > > > cheers > Han > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- > Van: Maria Yefimova > Aan: > Verzonden: woensdag 4 oktober 2000 13:33 > Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > > > > Ok, but the problem is that Russian post doesn't accept videotapes for > > mailing abroad. There are a lot of courier and private organizations, but > > the shipping costs are quite high there. Well, there it is possible to > send, > > of course. > > > > I would be happy to share the pleasure of seeing the great interview with > > all of you, because I think it is really worth it! Besides, my friend is > > planning also to get a copy of Russian MTV press conference with Bryan, so > > maybe it would be reasonable to include it into the same tape. I was > taking > > pictures during the show as well, so I can either scan them and put > > somewhere in the net, or send originals to anyone who wishes. > > > > So, the point of my talk is that maybe I could mail the tape to someone > and > > then this someone will distribute it among other people? > > > > Regards, > > Maria. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:53:08 GMT From: "Maria Yefimova" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV The system is PAL. The quality is just fantastic because it is a master copy from BetaCam. Tomorrow I will know if there is a chance to get the master copy of a press conference with Bryan which was shown on MTV Russia the same day as the interview. If there is, then the final tape will include both the interview and the press conference. I have 2 VCRs, and quality of copying is good (especially if the good tape is used of course). I am thinking about how to organize it. My company has the postal office in Brooklyn, NY that it works with. So I could send like 10 or more copies in one DHL (courier service) shipment to this company, which will send it further to the addresses provided. I am not sure yet if I can do that, but if I can, the problem is solved, I think. I will try to get this info ASAP. If I cannot, I can mail the whole shipment to someone in some country, and then this person will mail tapes to other people. As for me, I am especially interested in videos of Bryan's solo of 80s-90s. Well, i am interested in audio things as well, but I have albums, so I can completely enjoy listening, and from videos I have only those two which are official :) So I would be very very happy if someone is willing to send me some videos in return!... Anyway, I believe we will manage to do that finally, one way or another. Regards, Maria. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:47:59 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV I'm sure a video *can* be recorded onto CDR if one has the right facilities (like the "Valentine" CD-Rom, for example) but I doubt if many people have such a set-up in their own homes. My computer (pentium 800) can do the job but it takes about an hour to capture and process 15 minutes of video to the standard needed to output to VHS tape. If it was compressing for CD-Rom it might take longer or shorter, I don't know. And then there would still be format problems. I've downloaded vid's off the net that Windows Media Player refuses to play, even with updated "codecs" (whatever the hell they are!!!). Tape to tape seems a better bet. British to US VHS transfer costs a bit of money in the UK but can be done. But what format is the Russian original going to be? Again, I've tried to play Euro tapes that are theoretically PAL, but only play B&W on my TV!!!! ("My philosophy, like colour TV, is all there in black and white" indeed) Hope someone can solve all this stuff!!! regards the Organism - ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Kaufman To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > Hello Han, > > I would like to have a copy of the interview video but I have no way to make > copies. We only have one vcr. Isn't the operating system for video in USA & > Japan different from that of the rest of the world? > > I've only had a computer for 4 months now and still have much to learn so my > next question may sound really stupid but here goes: Can a video be recorded > to a cd-r as data to play back on computer only? If it can this would be the > easiest way to share it. I'll leave the answers to those of you much more > knowledgeable than myself but I will do anything I can to help with this. > > Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:11 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Interview for Russian TV > > > > I'm interested in that uncut interview. > > > > Problem is that copying a video is an incredible lot of work, much more > than > > burning a cd. > > > > Maybe we can do it in a cd-tree kind of way. One person make a copy for > the > > other ones that make copies. > > > > I don't know how much interest there is in this video, I'm willing to make > > let's say twenty copies, If a few others can do that also I guess the > people > > who want to have this can get it. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:27:55 +0100 From: "Peter S Tillier" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Penderecki BTW There are several excellent pieces by Penderetsky/Penderecki. Two of my favourites are with the composer conducting the LSO in "Symphony" and "Anaklasis" (the latter for strings and percussion). And I really like the "Agnus Dei". Peter - -- Peter S Tillier peter.tillier@btinternet.com petert@eq1152.demon.co.uk Opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily those of my employer - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivor Canning To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Penderecki > Alex, > > > Are there anyone into Penderetsky? Sorry, can't even spell the name > > correctly. > > Well, I actually prefer your phonetic spelling to the "correct" one of > 'Penderecki' !! > > I don't really know any of his work but I have a recording of his Agnus Dei > on a CD of Polish composers which is very good, so I'm open to any > recommendations you might have... > > > Do you think he beats BF? > > At what ? Arm-wrestling or beer-drinking ? S;^) > > Regards, > > Ivor. > > n.p. Boris Godunov (1869 version) - just in keeping with the Russian mood > at the moment... > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #357 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest