From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #342 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, September 20 2000 Volume 05 : Number 342 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating ["michael ferguson" ] Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating ["Han Snijders en Willy ] Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico [Julialiva@aol.com] SV: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= ] [AVALON] Dutch CD-tree distribution ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] Re: [AVALON] First Kiss CDR ["Rod LeCloux" ] Re: [AVALON] First Kiss CDR [Jim Rosencutter ] [AVALON] Ferry Eno [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Of CD Trees & Gigs ["Johnny Reece" ] Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico [AMeyersLD@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Of CD Trees & Gigs [AMeyersLD@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:38:54 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating Whenever there is a cd tree imminent, I always feel that it's best just to restate the Avalon guidelines. So, for your pleasure.... BTW I didn't write these, they already exist. >>>THE CD / TAPE / VIDEO TREE GUIDELINE INTRODUCTION: Welcome to the Avalon list. This mail list is devoted to Roxy Music and related artist and bands. If you give this list a chance, I think you`ll find that it has a lot to offer in the way of Roxy Music news and items of interest. There are many music related mail lists available on the Internet but I`m sure you`ll find the Avalon list is special and different. One thing that we offer that is of interest to many people is a selection of rare and unique material not available to the mainstream public (read into this bootlegs) by way of out "CD/Video trees." The Roxy Music bootlegs distributed via our "trees" are aimed at people who love listening to Roxy, want to hear interesting, good Roxy, and groan at the hint of another damn no-end-in-sight CD box set that seem to re-hash the same old studio cuts, "b- sides", and "special mixes" over and over. Bootlegs offer a unique glimpse of the band on their natural turf....the stage. Please keep in mind that no one on the Avalon list is responsible for the existence of bootlegs albums, we merely have access to them, enjoy them and wish to spread the music. I`ve met many people on this mail list who were stunned by the brilliance of a certain song done live on a bootleg and revaluated their whole attitude to them. But first and foremost, the Avalon list is NOT just about bootlegs and anyone focusing only on this subject is missing out on some often stimulating, sometimes hilarious and most interesting people. WHAT A "TREE" IS AND HOW IT`S DONE: A "tree", as in Tape/Video/Cd "tree", is unique material relating to Roxy Music which is compiled by a person(s) and offered to the list. If enough interest is generated, then list members capable of producing CD-R and tape copies (known as "Master Holders") will contact the person with the material. A number of "masters" are made and sent to a number of "Master Holders". When the "Master Holders" are ready, they will announce it to the list and anyone interested in a copy would simply post a request to the list copies will go out to those interested. Hence, "a tree." Typically, anyone wanting a copy will need to send the appropriate number of blank media (video tapes, audio cassette tapes or CD-R) and a stamped, addressed bubble-lined shipping package. The "Master Holder" will make your copy and send it to you. That`s it. THE RULES: 1) A CD/Tape/Video (T/V/CD) Tree can only be initiated by a person(s) possessing enough Roxy related material to put (at least) a tape together. 2) NO ONE CAN VOLUNTEER ANOTHER`S MATERIAL. 3) In no way is a profit made by anyone initiating or taking part as a master holder. They will always be done for the cost of the media and shipping only.>>> ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:57:24 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico She fell off her bicycle (true!!!) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:49 AM Subject: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico > > alive, would not want him to end like Jim Morrison or Nico! > > Excuse me for being off-topic: what happened to Nico and when? > > TIA > Alex > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:53:48 +0100 From: "michael ferguson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating Thanks Simon. Has anyone done a cd of last year's concert broadcast on radio 1 ? I think it was from Golders green. I have access to a good quality tape, mixing facilities, and a cd burner. Being a fairly new member, I would be interested in any back issues, does anyone have details. Best wishes Mike. P.S. Help! My partner and children have turned to the dark side ( Robbie Williams ) is there a cure, and is it catching? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Galloway To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:38 AM Subject: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating > Whenever there is a cd tree imminent, I always feel that it's best just to restate the Avalon guidelines. So, for your pleasure.... > > BTW I didn't write these, they already exist. > > >>>THE CD / TAPE / VIDEO TREE GUIDELINE > > INTRODUCTION: > Welcome to the Avalon list. This mail list is devoted to Roxy Music and > related artist and bands. If you give this list a chance, I think you`ll > find that it has a lot to offer in the way of Roxy Music news and items > of interest. There are many music related mail lists available on the > Internet but I`m sure you`ll find the Avalon list is special and different. > One thing that we offer that is of interest to many people is a > selection of rare and unique material not available to the mainstream > public (read into this bootlegs) by way of out "CD/Video trees." > The Roxy Music bootlegs distributed via our "trees" are aimed at people > who love listening to Roxy, want to hear interesting, good Roxy, and groan at > the hint of another damn no-end-in-sight CD box set that seem to re-hash > the same old studio cuts, "b- sides", and "special mixes" over and over. > Bootlegs offer a unique glimpse of the band on their natural turf....the > stage. Please keep in mind that no one on the Avalon list is responsible for the > existence of bootlegs albums, we merely have access to them, enjoy them > and wish to spread the music. I`ve met many people on this mail list who were > stunned by the brilliance of a certain song done live on a bootleg and > revaluated their whole attitude to them. > But first and foremost, the Avalon list is NOT just about bootlegs and > anyone focusing only on this subject is missing out on some often > stimulating, sometimes hilarious and most interesting people. > > WHAT A "TREE" IS AND HOW IT`S DONE: > A "tree", as in Tape/Video/Cd "tree", is unique material relating to Roxy > Music which is compiled by a person(s) and offered to the list. If enough > interest is generated, then list members capable of producing CD-R and > tape copies (known as "Master Holders") will contact the person with the > material. A number of "masters" are made and sent to a number of "Master > Holders". When the "Master Holders" are ready, they will announce it > to the list and anyone interested in a copy would simply post a request > to the list copies will go out to those interested. Hence, "a tree." > Typically, anyone wanting a copy will need to send the appropriate number > of blank media (video tapes, audio cassette tapes or CD-R) and a stamped, > addressed bubble-lined shipping package. The "Master Holder" will make > your copy and send it to you. That`s it. > > THE RULES: > 1) A CD/Tape/Video (T/V/CD) Tree can only be initiated by a person(s) > possessing enough Roxy related material to put (at least) a tape > together. > 2) NO ONE CAN VOLUNTEER ANOTHER`S MATERIAL. > 3) In no way is a profit made by anyone initiating or taking part as > a master holder. They will always be done for the cost of the media and > shipping only.>>> > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:50:39 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?VGjpcuhzZSBPJ0Rvbm5lbGw=?=" Subject: RE: [AVALON] CD-tree I'm interested in the Oslo CD. Therese > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Ole-Petter Drønen > Sent: 18 September 2000 18:02 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: SV: [AVALON] How to order the CD-tree > > > Hi, > > It's not a stupid question! > > "Tree" is a common-word used on lists like Avalon (and many more). > The true fans on the lists help each other to get rare/unique > recordings by their favourite artists. On Avalon that is > Ferry/Roxy-related. > A while ago it was a "Video-tree" from Ferry's Brüssel concert > from Feb 2000. Then a video was copied and distributed among the > fans on the list. > This time it's a "CD-tree" , which means that I + maybe a person > in the US & the UK will make copies of a CD that I've made of > Bryan's 2 concerts in Oslo this year.People on the list can order > it, this time for NOK 50. > It's always important that the CD-trees are non-profit. If one > makes money on them it's bootlegging, and that's illegal. > This is an idealistic project that I probably will lose money on. > > I hope this is a good enough explaination. > > Ole-Petter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martijn Gussekloo > To: > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] How to order the CD-tree > > > > Hi, > > > > err, maybe this is a *very* stupid question, but I'm completely > new to the > > avalon list so please > > don't laugh /too/ hard. But what actually is a cd-tree? Mp3's? > MPG-video's? > > Audio? > > > > Sorry for bothering > > > > Cursquid > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Ole-Petter Drønen > > Aan: avalon@smoe.org > > Datum: zondag 17 september 2000 20:36 > > Onderwerp: [AVALON] How to order the CD-tree > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I have checked out prices and they are approximately like this: > > > > CDr-audio- NOK 15 > > Photo-paper 1,5 A4 pr album: NOK 10 > > Postage without jewel-case: Europe:NOK 15 > > USA:NOK 20 > > Bubble envelope:NOK 10 > > > > This makes a total of NOK 50. > > > > NOK 50 is the norwegian note with the lowest value. > > > > I have been told by people off list that it's best when people > pre-pay the > > CDs. > > > > SO: > > THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT THE CD SHOULD SEND ME NOK 50,- IN AN ENVELPOE OR > > I.M.O. > > > > PLEASE MAIL ME WHEN YOU HAVE SENT THE MONEY > > > > I know it's often difficult to get the NOK 50-notes. If you > only can get NOK > > 100-notes, I can send NOK 50 back to you along with the CD. > > > > Name & address: > > Ole-Petter Dronen > > Biskopshavn 1 > > 5035 Bergen > > Norway > > > > > > I will finish the CD + cover this week, and be ready to burn for YOU! > > > > Ole-Petter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ole-Petter Drønen > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:26 AM > > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry in Oslo, CD-tree? > > > > > > > I have earlier mailed you about the broadcasting of Bryan's gig at the > > Norwegian Wood festival in Oslo this summer. > > > They have finished the broadcast now, and I've recorded both > part I & II. > > Total time almost 40 minutes. > > > > > > 10-15 people responded immediately after my last mail where I > asked if I > > should make a CD-tree out of it. > > > > > > Since I also have an excellent audience recording of his show > in Oslo in > > February, I can fill the CD with some of those tunes. Maybe > some of those > > which are not on the Norwegian Wood-recording??? > > > > > > I will of course also make a cover (on photo-paper?expensive > but nice). > > > > > > The costs depend on CDr-audio prices, postage/packing (I will not send > > jewel-cases), cover-paper-quality. I guess each CDr will cost > between £ 3&5. > > Of course on non-profit basis!!! > > > > > > Any thoughts or suggestions ? How have you done this before? > > > > > > Ole-Petter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:00:26 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: [AVALON] CD-tree distribution Hello, Simon Galloway has kindly (again) offered to be the distributor of the new CD-tree for UK. His email address is simong@jazzfm.com (don't forget the all important G). A US distributor will be confirmed later. Those of you who have sent NOK 50 to me , or been to the bank and changed, you will of course get the CD from me! I'll make the CDs for the rest of the world. Ole-Petter ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:14:53 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico Hi Alex, she fell of the bike on Ibiza (1985 I think) and died in a hospital just a few hours after that.She was addicted to heroine but I doubt this had something to do with this tragic cylce-accident. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:28:03 +0100 From: "organism-001" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico The official verdict was that she had a stroke; i.e. falling off the bike wasn't really what killed her. Having a stroke at such a young age is usually a sign of serious "lifestyle" problems and ill health, i.e the heroin probably helped. However it could have been a "berry aneurysm" like that guy in REM had, which is just f***ing bad luck. Your pal Doctor Organism - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico > Hi Alex, > she fell of the bike on Ibiza (1985 I think) and died in a hospital just a > few hours after that.She was addicted to heroine but I doubt this had > something to do with this tragic cylce-accident. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:35:26 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating Every week I receive requests from people who want one of the cd's we made in the past. I don't want to disappoint people but I must say it takes a lot time to make all those different cd's. My idea is to give the new ones the possibility to order the cd's we did in the past. Let's say ones in about two months I give people the chance to order a cd. The new people get the chance to get everything we made in the past and for me it is easier to make 30 the same orders then 15 that are all different. In the past I sent them immediately after the order but from now on I wait till I have received the money. About ten people still owes me money! A new interpretation of the Dutchtreat? I'll wait with the first "reissue" until this Norwegian Wood cd is done... Watch this space We did in the past: First Kiss 2cd early recordings Why do you think I'm a funky chick 2cd, 1976 These Vintage Years, Boston, 1999 2cd Golders Green, 1999 Avalon Ballroom, 2000 Eight Miles high, 1982 (Flesh and Blood) The Thrill of it all, 1975 Han > Thanks Simon. > > Has anyone done a cd of last year's concert broadcast on radio 1 ? I think > it was from Golders green. I have access to a good quality tape, mixing > facilities, and a cd burner. > Being a fairly new member, I would be interested in any back issues, does > anyone have details. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:39:07 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico In einer eMail vom 19.09.00 15:39:12 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt organism-001@supanet.com: << he official verdict was that she had a stroke; i.e. falling off the bike wasn't really what killed her. >> Never heard about the stroke, I thought it was some kind of blood clot in her brain the docs did not realize early enough. Btw, strokes at early age are not that unusual...I would not think that her death has something to do with her lifestyle, however it's mysterious as Nico himself. So many of her generation survived the drugs and you wonder how they did it, does it depend on genetics or simply destiny, who knows? Good to know that the music stays forever.....! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:44:01 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: SV: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico Hi, In everyday language "stroke" is used for both blod-clot in a vessel and a bleeding from for instance a berry aneurysm. opd - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico > In einer eMail vom 19.09.00 15:39:12 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt > organism-001@supanet.com: > > << he official verdict was that she had a stroke; i.e. falling off the bike > wasn't really what killed her. > >> > Never heard about the stroke, I thought it was some kind of blood clot in her > brain the docs did not realize early enough. Btw, strokes at early age are > not that unusual...I would not think that her death has something to do with > her lifestyle, however it's mysterious as Nico himself. So many of her > generation survived the drugs and you wonder how they did it, does it depend > on genetics or simply destiny, who knows? Good to know that the music stays > forever.....! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:07:30 +0100 From: "michael ferguson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating Great idea Han, I'll look forward to any reissues Best wishes Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating > Every week I receive requests from people who want one of the cd's we made > in the past. I don't want to disappoint people but I must say it takes a lot > time to make all those different cd's. > > My idea is to give the new ones the possibility to order the cd's we did in > the past. Let's say ones in about two months I give people the chance to > order a cd. The new people get the chance to get everything we made in the > past and for me it is easier to make 30 the same orders then 15 that are all > different. > > In the past I sent them immediately after the order but from now on I wait > till I have received the money. About ten people still owes me money! A new > interpretation of the Dutchtreat? > > I'll wait with the first "reissue" until this Norwegian Wood cd is done... > Watch this space > > We did in the past: > First Kiss 2cd early recordings > Why do you think I'm a funky chick 2cd, 1976 > These Vintage Years, Boston, 1999 2cd > Golders Green, 1999 > Avalon Ballroom, 2000 > Eight Miles high, 1982 (Flesh and Blood) > The Thrill of it all, 1975 > > > Han > > > > > Thanks Simon. > > > > Has anyone done a cd of last year's concert broadcast on radio 1 ? I think > > it was from Golders green. I have access to a good quality tape, mixing > > facilities, and a cd burner. > > Being a fairly new member, I would be interested in any back issues, does > > anyone have details. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:42:18 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD Tree guidlines - worth repeating I received a CDR from a list member a while back that contained the early BBC tracks. The disk was untitled--is it First Kiss? Regarding that particular CD, there was discussion on the list a few months ago about the tracks sounding as if they were a bit too slow, i.e., a 33-1/2 RPM played at 30 or so. I have a vinyl bootleg (Better Than Food) of most of the same tracks. I recently dug it out and played it and, indeed, the songs on the CDR are slower than they should be. I could make a CD from my vinyl bootleg if folks were interested, as long as I'm not re-inventing the wheel. Are there CDRs of these BBC sessions that are at the right speed? Additionally, the vinyl has commentary from the show's host (is it John Peel? forgive my Yankee-ness). Jim R. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:04:55 +0200 From: "GusArt" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD-tree I'd like a copy too please! Cursquid - ----- Original Message ----- From: Thérèse O'Donnell To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] CD-tree I'm interested in the Oslo CD. Therese > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Ole-Petter Drønen > Sent: 18 September 2000 18:02 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: SV: [AVALON] How to order the CD-tree > > > Hi, > > It's not a stupid question! > > "Tree" is a common-word used on lists like Avalon (and many more). > The true fans on the lists help each other to get rare/unique > recordings by their favourite artists. On Avalon that is > Ferry/Roxy-related. > A while ago it was a "Video-tree" from Ferry's Brüssel concert > from Feb 2000. Then a video was copied and distributed among the > fans on the list. > This time it's a "CD-tree" , which means that I + maybe a person > in the US & the UK will make copies of a CD that I've made of > Bryan's 2 concerts in Oslo this year.People on the list can order > it, this time for NOK 50. > It's always important that the CD-trees are non-profit. If one > makes money on them it's bootlegging, and that's illegal. > This is an idealistic project that I probably will lose money on. > > I hope this is a good enough explaination. > > Ole-Petter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martijn Gussekloo > To: > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] How to order the CD-tree > > > > Hi, > > > > err, maybe this is a *very* stupid question, but I'm completely > new to the > > avalon list so please > > don't laugh /too/ hard. But what actually is a cd-tree? Mp3's? > MPG-video's? > > Audio? > > > > Sorry for bothering > > > > Cursquid > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Ole-Petter Drønen > > Aan: avalon@smoe.org > > Datum: zondag 17 september 2000 20:36 > > Onderwerp: [AVALON] How to order the CD-tree > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I have checked out prices and they are approximately like this: > > > > CDr-audio- NOK 15 > > Photo-paper 1,5 A4 pr album: NOK 10 > > Postage without jewel-case: Europe:NOK 15 > > USA:NOK 20 > > Bubble envelope:NOK 10 > > > > This makes a total of NOK 50. > > > > NOK 50 is the norwegian note with the lowest value. > > > > I have been told by people off list that it's best when people > pre-pay the > > CDs. > > > > SO: > > THOSE OF YOU WHO WANT THE CD SHOULD SEND ME NOK 50,- IN AN ENVELPOE OR > > I.M.O. > > > > PLEASE MAIL ME WHEN YOU HAVE SENT THE MONEY > > > > I know it's often difficult to get the NOK 50-notes. If you > only can get NOK > > 100-notes, I can send NOK 50 back to you along with the CD. > > > > Name & address: > > Ole-Petter Dronen > > Biskopshavn 1 > > 5035 Bergen > > Norway > > > > > > I will finish the CD + cover this week, and be ready to burn for YOU! > > > > Ole-Petter > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ole-Petter Drønen > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:26 AM > > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry in Oslo, CD-tree? > > > > > > > I have earlier mailed you about the broadcasting of Bryan's gig at the > > Norwegian Wood festival in Oslo this summer. > > > They have finished the broadcast now, and I've recorded both > part I & II. > > Total time almost 40 minutes. > > > > > > 10-15 people responded immediately after my last mail where I > asked if I > > should make a CD-tree out of it. > > > > > > Since I also have an excellent audience recording of his show > in Oslo in > > February, I can fill the CD with some of those tunes. Maybe > some of those > > which are not on the Norwegian Wood-recording??? > > > > > > I will of course also make a cover (on photo-paper?expensive > but nice). > > > > > > The costs depend on CDr-audio prices, postage/packing (I will not send > > jewel-cases), cover-paper-quality. I guess each CDr will cost > between £ 3&5. > > Of course on non-profit basis!!! > > > > > > Any thoughts or suggestions ? How have you done this before? > > > > > > Ole-Petter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:38:42 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: [AVALON] Dutch CD-tree distribution I'll do the distribution of the norwegian wood cd for the dutch You can order now. Cheers Han ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:16:55 +0200 From: "GusArt" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dutch CD-tree distribution Oh no!... just when I changed my precious 20 guilders to 50 NOK... Will you accept the NOKs as well? After all, postage costs less... Ai, dat was weer eens veel te voorbarig van mij om in noks te gaan wisselen... Nou ja, learn from your mistakes is my only advice - ----- Original Message ----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: [AVALON] Dutch CD-tree distribution > I'll do the distribution of the norwegian wood cd for the dutch > You can order now. > > Cheers > Han > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:25:41 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First Kiss CDR - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Rosencutter > Regarding that particular CD, there was discussion on the list a few > months ago about the tracks sounding as if they were a bit too slow, > i.e., a 33-1/2 RPM played at 30 or so. > > I have a vinyl bootleg (Better Than Food) of most of the same tracks. I > recently dug it out and played it and, indeed, the songs on the CDR are > slower than they should be. How does one know what the correct speed is or does the vinyl version just sound better? I've seen this on other boots where people claim to do time correction to the tracks. How do they know what length or speed they should be at. Were they at the show with a stop watch???? Rod ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:37:42 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] First Kiss CDR Rod LeCloux wrote: > > > How does one know what the correct speed is or does the vinyl version just > sound better? I've seen this on other boots where people claim to do time > correction to the tracks. How do they know what length or speed they should > be at. Were they at the show with a stop watch???? > Because the vocals on the vinyl boot are the same pitch as the first album. On the CDR, they sound like Bryan was on Quaaludes. Perhaps he was. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 20:13:57 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Eno I have very little idea of what has been discussed on Avalon about Horoscsope and Perfumed Sigh. I was told off-list that someone was sending me Vol I of APS but it never arrived. I have seen lots of references to Horoscope (usually in the context of "It was meant to be our secret!" conversations), but not much about what it is or what it contains. This may be naive of me, but can anybody e-mail me off-list and tell me how to get either of these items? I promise I will NEVER tell a soul about who wrote to me or who helped me to get them. I just want to see/listen to them, but I need a little help from my friends... Also, the Eno documentary on Channel 4 earlier this month - I was away in France at the time. Can anyone help me out and suggest how I might get my hands on a copy? Off-list e-mails welcome... Richard n/p Music (album) - Madonna Apparently, music makes the people come together - now that's a neat trick! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 02:48:28 +0100 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Of CD Trees & Gigs Nice to see another CD tree on the go, as it's been oh-so-quiet here recently. End of tour shock, I wouldn't wonder. After all, we're only used to this chaos every 5 years ! Oh how I'd love to be able to attend the Russian gigs, but it ain't gonna happen, either financially, or, more importantly, time-wise for me, as my time away is growing by the minute as it is, as I am now in Paris from Saturday 23rd to Wed 27th Sept, due to a little work stuff. On the 26th of course I'll make a special point of being in a 'long lonely shadow' you-know-where, to mark the great man's Birthday. There I'll be, MD Walkman on, by the Seine, 'A Song For Europe' playing. You think I won't ? Watch me. Crazy, but these things just have to be done. The consolation is of course to hopefully be able to hunt down some more Roxy/Ferry Vinyl goodies in little Parisian stores. I'll try my best. I'll look forward though very much to Russky reviews from the lucky few who can attend those special gigs. Don't wanna wait another 5 years though for more Gigs, personally... Re-instate that Hanover date immediately Bryan ! Meanwhile, early days I know, but hark the frozen chimes of winter and all that, any thoughts on an 'Avalonia' Xmas get-together party type drink/eat talk nonsense usual thingy ? Any excuse, I know... Reecey... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Be afraid. www.albumzone.net - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:28:06 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off-topic: Nico In a message dated 9/19/00 10:55:29 AM, Julialiva@aol.com writes: << Never heard about the stroke, I thought it was some kind of blood clot in her brain >> Isn't that what a stroke is? I used to be married to a Doctor, I will ask her tomorrow... Andrew In Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:33:55 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Of CD Trees & Gigs In a message dated 9/19/00 9:05:15 PM, johnny.reece@virgin.net writes: << any thoughts on an 'Avalonia' Xmas get-together party type drink/eat talk nonsense usual thingy ? >> Yes, in Chicago. Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #342 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest