From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #322 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, September 2 2000 Volume 05 : Number 322 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Casanova ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] Re: [AVALON] Fripp, Cale, Ferry etc. ["C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" ] Re: [AVALON] 'Air'treatments [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: Re: [AVALON] Casanova : A Monumental Jewel [KRNCHSE@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. ["Ferdinand Biesheuvel" ] Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Fripp On Ferry [Julialiva@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Fripp, Cale, Ferry etc. ["Rod LeCloux" ] Re: [AVALON] John Cale ["thom.wallace" ] [AVALON] Carrickfergus ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] Carrickfergus [KRNCHSE@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:03:45 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Casanova For me the Casanova version of LST is the one and only. It reflects everything what I like about Ferry. The CL version is in my opinion too straight. If the CLversion is an elephant, a range rover, a boxer the LST version is a black panther, a Jaguar Mark 2, a balletdancer. Of the live versions the last one is the best although I also really liked the manifesto tour version, Liked that part where it stops and then started again in full power. No sax or oboe in that one is impossible. The Bete Noire version was mwah while the Mamouna tour version was the worst thing ever done by Ferry. That guy behind a synth blowing in a tube brrr. Still cannot understand why he could accept that. The rest of the concert I was depressed. Han ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 05:07:20 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] John Cale Hi Judy, thank you for your message. Yes, he's more on the quiet side, no wonder, he can express everything through his music. Guts is a great album, do you like anything he's done with Nico? He did release a ballad-theme about Nico last year but I didn't get the chance to see the on stage. If anyone is interested in Nico I can recommend "Nico-Icon" a great documentary on her with Cale being interviewd (as well as Lou Reed an lots of other people around the Warhol-time) playing a piano version of Nico's wonderful song "Frozen warnings". I also loved the original english book of James Young called "Nico"; he had been on tour with her going through all ups and downs with her heroin-addiction. Good book to find out what the music-industry is like....!!!!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 05:14:51 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Miscellaneous Hi Christian, glad you stick with "Stricty Confidential" and "IEDHAH" - both too good to be true. Good to see somebody chatting from the North of Germany (I'm from Hanover but live in the South now). I already suggested that SHIT has no connection with Roxy but since the Beat-Club and the follow-up Musikladen have been very progressive (at least at the beginning, later it was just disgusting!!!) I guess it belongs to the "Hippies" !!!!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 05:17:48 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy-stuff I do have both; no problem. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 05:24:33 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. I often thought why Ferry did not work with Robert Fripp, as he seems to like unusual guitarists. tI might has to do with the history of King Crimson (when Ferry - thank god - failed to become their singer) or the fact that he has been involved with Eno & Cale. I did not know that Cale already offered to produce an album in their early years - would have turned out great, I am sure. I guess Ferry was afraid of Cale's personality but since Cale got away from the drugs he has calmed down, would be great to see them working together!!!!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 05:26:26 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] John Cale I've seen one abotu 2/3 years ago, is it the one where he goes back to Wales showing us around where he used to live etc. Great documentary on a real strange but highly creative guy. Where DORO involved with this documetary? ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:28:50 +0100 From: "David Squires" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. avalon-digest V5 #321 On 1 Sep 2000, at 4:05, Jim R wrote: > I'd also put in a vote for Ferry covering "Close Watch" with his > new band on his next inevitable cover song collection. I think Bryan could also do something wonderful to "I'm Not The Loving Kind" (a kind of prototype of Close Watch) and "Taking It All Away," both from Slow Dazzle. David - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 10:13:50 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Casanova : A Monumental Jewel Postscript. Casanova is clearly a personal favourite of Bryan's. Along with the four standards - LITD, Strand, JG, Slave - its the only number to have featured in the last three tours. It was especially fine on the Mamouna tour. And, curiously, its one of two live numbers where he always growls the title of the final bar. (The other being Slave To Love.) I don't recall Roxy playing it live at all. Can that be right ? Martini ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:28:50 +0100 From: "David Squires" Subject: [AVALON] Re: John Cale avalon-digest V5 #321 On 1 Sep 2000, at 4:05, spam wrote: > Not sure if this has already been said of late, but > did anyone see the doco on John Cale on Abc the other > night? (australia) Was this the one made by BBC Wales? There's a lovely section, looking out over a broad valley in South Wales, lovely scenery, grazing animals and then cuts straight to a cow being slaughtered in an abattoir. Very effective, very Cale! David - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:11:38 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: [AVALON] 'Air'treatments Martin wrote: > Casanova is clearly a personal favourite of Bryan's. Along with the four > standards - LITD, Strand, JG, Slave - its the only number to have featured > in the last three tours. It was especially fine on the Mamouna tour. You must have seen it when there was a saxplayer as a guest, can't imagine anyone liked that synth sax. When I hear Casanova I must make those "ferry movements". Really loves how he moves on stage. I particular like what he does with his fingers and the when he walks back, bending his knees more than is needed. Good example is the way he walks to the string section at the end of out of the blue, What's happening then is as good as Lucy solo. I know there a lot of boys playing the 'air'guitar. Girls? I guess I invented the 'air' Ferry. But only in private and when I'm drunk. Can do a very good 'air'Jagger too. And that singer of Boney M (forgot his name but I'm sure Ivor will help meout . ) Imitating him is really dangerous, if you've ever seen him you know why.. Confess about your 'air'treatments a 37 years old writing a mail to 300 ferryfans how the man is bending his knees. Is there a cure for this, I'm really sick! Back to work! Han ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 06:18:10 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: Fripp On Ferry In a message dated Fri, 1 Sep 2000 5:42:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Julialiva@aol.com writes: << I often thought why Ferry did not work with Robert Fripp, together!!!!!!!>> Robert Frip plays the guitar solo on As The World Turns, B-side to This Is Tomorrow. regards J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:44:37 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: [AVALON] Test Testing new connection. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:25:06 +0200 From: "C.H.S=?ISO-8859-1?B?9g==?=temann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fripp, Cale, Ferry etc. Wow! I am surprised to read that I'm not the only one out there admiring the Flowermix album by No-Man - it's really extremely atmospheric, and it features the great Robert Fripp on soundscapes. You should all go and buy RF's soundscape albums - they're all an adventure (I'd recommend especially The Gates Of Paradise and A Blessing Of Tears, and from the good old Frippertronics days, Let The Power Fall (this would be one of 5 desert island records for me)). But yes, it's a shame that Ferry and Fripp only have collaborated on ATWT. And on the Crimson demos, of course. I have read somewhere that Fripp still has got a tape of this (Ferry singing Cat Food or what???) - but it would never get released, I guess. I would agree that Ferry would do a good job of covering Cale's Close Watch. It's interesting, as there are two studio versions out: one on Helen Of Troy and one on Music For A New Society, the latter fitting very well on this most desperate of albums. I'm quite certain that Ferry won't work with Cale - not that he disliked him or so, but I think both have so much of their own work to do, so that a collaboration appears rather unlikely. Another of my "Ferry should work with X" propositions (hope you don't get bored by now): do you know Angelo Badalamenti, who has done many soundtracks for David Lynch films (e. g. Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, Lost Highway)? He has got an extremely trance-like, partly jazzy sound that makes me imagine how it could sound like with Bryan's voice embedded in this beautiful music. The video could be: BF, unshaven, standing desperately behind a 50's microphone, singing/crooning - and behind him an eerie red curtain. But I know it won't come true. Ain't that so? (not my fav song really) Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 06:28:15 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'Air'treatments Back in my drinkin' days, I could do a mean Stevie Nicks "twirling witch." ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 09:24:35 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Casanova : A Monumental Jewel In a message dated 8/31/0 5:57:34 PM, you wrote: <> Excuse me ,but please explain "Onanist"? Lovely post Martin, btw. Regards , DM well i,m drunk today.................... ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:58:48 +0200 From: "Ferdinand Biesheuvel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. i thought Fripp played the guitar solo on as the world turns. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod LeCloux To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. > Hello Christian > > > A person that comes to my mind when thinking of artists Bryan > > should work with is Robert Fripp. His wonderful soundscapes > > are so unbelievably breathtaking that it could really add > > something to Ferry's material. > > To take off on your above thought I don't think it will ever happen. > Although, it would be a wonderful mix of a trully brilliant guitarist with a > incredible artist. So, the closest we have to that is an album by No-Man - > Flowermouth. Fripp plays guitar, lead guitar and frippertronics on 6 > tracks. I would think most Avalonian's would like this album, if I may be > to bold to say. If you are not familiar with it I can elaborate. It is the > work of a creative genious named Steven Wilson. He reminds of Eno in a way. > He's quite prolific. Presently, he's running under the guise of about 4 > different names/bands. Also, the stuff he does under Bass Communion name is > very similiar to Eno's non-vocal stuff from the 70's yet still relevent > today. > > Also, to chime in on John Cale I very much love Paris 1919 and the issuance > of the 2CD(36 track, 20 page booklet) set called "The Island Years" is > excellent and an absolute must for all intersted Cale newbies. It includes > 3 albums(Fear, Slow Dazzle and Helen of Troy) plus about 4-5 bonus tracks. A > must!!!! Plus it includes Manzanera , eno , McKay......:) > > Anyways, I can take this rambling off-list if you are interested in further > exploration. > > Bye, > > Rod > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:48:41 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world Thanks David In his excellent diary of a year in the life of Brian - the title escapes me - - Eno he applies his celebrated intellect to all areas of his existence and writes about his most intimate, er, activities. Including a particular form of self-gratification commonly practised by men and, indeed, women. An onanist is a polite way of describing someone who performs this act of auto-eroticism. pip pip Martinot ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:01:28 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world Wasn't that 'a year with a swollen appendix" But after this story I not sure if it was his appendix. Han > Thanks David > > In his excellent diary of a year in the life of Brian - the title escapes me > - Eno he applies his celebrated intellect to all areas of his existence and > writes about his most intimate, er, activities. Including a particular form > of self-gratification commonly practised by men and, indeed, women. An > onanist is a polite way of describing someone who performs this act of > auto-eroticism. > > pip pip > > Martinot > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:31:29 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world In a message dated 9/1/0 2:55:35 PM, you wrote: <> G R E A T! I've got a new way of saying "He's a complete and total Stockman Banker",(Was It Ivor who penned that one?)and only an Avalonian would have a clue! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:12:56 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world > >of self-gratification commonly practised by men and, indeed, women. An >onanist is a polite way of describing someone who performs this act of >auto-eroticism. As the great Mark twain once observed in a speech on onanism to an all-male club: " Masturbation is very pleasant. Sometimes I prefer it to sodomy." Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 12:17:48 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] An onanist green world Cool, something new to add to my résumé! Martin Stockman wrote: > > Thanks David > > In his excellent diary of a year in the life of Brian - the title escapes me > - Eno he applies his celebrated intellect to all areas of his existence and > writes about his most intimate, er, activities. Including a particular form > of self-gratification commonly practised by men and, indeed, women. An > onanist is a polite way of describing someone who performs this act of > auto-eroticism. > > pip pip > > Martinot > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:26:17 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] John Cale Hi Julia I do like Nico from the time of the first Velvet Underground release. I have Chelsea Girl, The Marble Index and The End on vinyl but my turntable needs a new needle so I have been unable to listen. Nico probably has lots more but I must admit my collecting has dwindled to mostly my favorites (BF comes first!). Judy You know I don't talk much except to myself..... ~ Bryan Ferry - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] John Cale > Hi Judy, > thank you for your message. Yes, he's more on the quiet side, no wonder, he > can express everything through his music. Guts is a great album, do you like > anything he's done with Nico? He did release a ballad-theme about Nico last > year but I didn't get the chance to see the on stage. If anyone is interested > in Nico I can recommend "Nico-Icon" a great documentary on her with Cale > being interviewd (as well as Lou Reed an lots of other people around the > Warhol-time) playing a piano version of Nico's wonderful song "Frozen > warnings". I also loved the original english book of James Young called > "Nico"; he had been on tour with her going through all ups and downs with her > heroin-addiction. Good book to find out what the music-industry is > like....!!!!!!! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:15:45 EDT From: Julialiva@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Fripp On Ferry Hi John, I thought we were talking about production work, he did not produce these songs, did he? ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:31:29 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fripp, Cale, Ferry etc. Make sure you get Flowermouth, not Flowermix. Mouth is much better!! Rod - ----- Original Message ----- From: C.H.Sötemann To: Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fripp, Cale, Ferry etc. > Wow! > > I am surprised to read that I'm not the only one out there > admiring the Flowermix album by No-Man - it's really extremely > atmospheric, and it features the great Robert Fripp on soundscapes. > You should all go and buy RF's soundscape albums - they're all > an adventure (I'd recommend especially The Gates Of Paradise and > A Blessing Of Tears, and from the good old Frippertronics days, > Let The Power Fall (this would be one of 5 desert island records > for me)). But yes, it's a shame that Ferry and Fripp only have > collaborated on ATWT. And on the Crimson demos, of course. I have > read somewhere that Fripp still has got a tape of this (Ferry singing > Cat Food or what???) - but it would never get released, I guess. > I would agree that Ferry would do a good job of covering Cale's > Close Watch. It's interesting, as there are two studio versions out: > one on Helen Of Troy and one on Music For A New Society, the latter > fitting very well on this most desperate of albums. > I'm quite certain that Ferry won't work with Cale - not that he > disliked him or so, but I think both have so much of their own > work to do, so that a collaboration appears rather unlikely. > Another of my "Ferry should work with X" propositions (hope you don't > get bored by now): do you know Angelo Badalamenti, who has done many > soundtracks for David Lynch films (e. g. Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, > Lost Highway)? He has got an extremely trance-like, partly jazzy sound > that makes me imagine how it could sound like with Bryan's voice > embedded in this beautiful music. The video could be: BF, unshaven, > standing desperately behind a 50's microphone, singing/crooning - > and behind him an eerie red curtain. But I know it won't come true. > > Ain't that so? (not my fav song really) > > Christian > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:10:20 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] John Cale My favourite Cale album has to be "Helen Of Troy". It covers so many styles of music from the brilliant ballad "I keep a close watch" to the R 'n' B classic of Jimmy Reed's " Baby what you want me to Do", it really is one of the best albums of the 70's. I have to agree that his "Heartbreak Hotel" is one of the best and weirdest cover-versions of an Elvis-song ever. In fact the "Chicken Shit" ep from which it came was fantastic. Personally I've always thought that Cale was far more interesting than his former Velvet's colleague Lou Reed. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:51:26 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Carrickfergus Here are two missing verses Ferry omitted from Carrickfergus. There are many interpretations of this traditional song. My childhood days bring back sad reflections Of happy days so long ago. My boyhood friends and my own relations. Have all passed on like the melting snow. So I'll spend my days in endless roving, Soft is the grass and my bed is free. Oh to be home now in Carrickfergus, On the long road down to the salty sea How apposite do you think these two verses would be to Ferry now in middle age? Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:34:11 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. Hi Christian I really don't think Sultanesque was about Eno since Mark Fenwick referred to BF as The Sultan. Judy You know I don't talk much except to myself..... ~ Bryan Ferry - ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.H.Sötemann" To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cale, Ferry's songs etc. > Hello outside world, > > I think, concerning the John Cale issue, that prior to the > recording of FYP (which to me, is the greatest pop album > ever) Roxy and Cale met when the band toured the US unsuccess- > fully in 1972. Cale allegedly offered Bryan to produce the > album, but the latter politely (can you think of something > else?) declined, because Cale wanted to record it in the states. > I have only read about this, having witnessed nothing, having > been still uncreated back then. Best Cale albums (personal > choice): Music For A New Society and Paris 1919. > So I think a collaboration with Ferry is highly unlikely, as > rumours had it that when Cale and Eno recorded what was to > become their whimsical Wrong Way Up LP, the personal "atmo" > was very difficult. And I guess Eno is not too complicate > to work with (his name is not Scott, haha), so presumably > Cale knows what he wants, and Bryan... well, you all know. > A person that comes to my mind when thinking of artists Bryan > should work with is Robert Fripp. His wonderful soundscapes > are so unbelievably breathtaking that it could really add > something to Ferry's material. > In addition to that, may I comment on some of the recent topics: > Strictly Confidential MUST be praised - > PRAISE! PRAISE! Together with IEDHAH it's the best song on FYP, > to me, at any rate. > Casanova - I prefer Roxy's version, but like both. Only: The CL > version has something menacing which I find very attractive. > In their different ways the two versions each possess a more > subliminal, dark tone. It shimmers through the surface. > And is it really about Eno? I didn't know. I thought Sultanesque > was about Eno. Just kidding. But looking closer at that track, > it's not so far removed from Another Green World objects. Don't > you think? > > Easing out of time... > Christian > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 02:56:26 GMT From: "alannah selene" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fripp, Cale, Ferry etc. Angelo Badalamenti is my friend's uncle! I love his work--even before I knew my friend. We've lost touch now, though...so much for my "connections". Ha ha! Alannah >From: "C.H.Sötemann" >Another of my "Ferry should work with X" propositions (hope you don't >get bored by now): do you know Angelo Badalamenti, who has done many >soundtracks for David Lynch films (e. g. Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, >Lost Highway)? He has got an extremely trance-like, partly jazzy sound > >that makes me imagine how it could sound like with Bryan's voice > >embedded in this beautiful music. Christian _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 19:56:02 -0700 From: Betsy Fowler Subject: [AVALON] Re: The movies again Thérèse wrote that she had spotted Colin Good in the McKellen movie "Richard III" -- but there's more! During that famous online chat early this year, Bryan said that he had met Colin Good when they had worked together to record a thirties song (I think) for the film, which hadn't been used. I'm now hazy on this. Does anyone know which song it was? Did it see the light of day? Cheers, Betsy ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:38:04 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Carrickfergus In a message dated 9/2/0 12:03:04 AM, you wrote: <> When I take a look at Ferry (Whatever image is current ?)and think about what may have inspired his choices-both sartorially and musically,I more often than not see him as a melancholy romantic.His taste for heavy tweed coats,the loosely knoted silk scarfs,and more recently,the slightly cocked "Newsboy"cap.A "rag 'n ' bonemuffin" man,if ever I saw one.Yeah,I could see Bryan coaxing along the backroads with Mssrs Steptoe and son.I believe he has mentioned in the past his love of cycling,of a possibility that the life of a farmer may have been a choice?Alone with the country and his angst,I see him. Carrickfergus?My personal high of this tour.I was about fifth row in Philladelphia (Thanks to JD)and decided that if i shouted loud enough for Carrickfergus,he just might hear me.Well,call it what you will,but the next song was indeed Carrickfergus.I was in Avalon.(I am in no way of the belief that my request had anything to do with this btw,but as they say"Timing is everything") I have no idea how often this song has been performed on previous tours,but for me,this 'Fit In' with the way I see Bryan at this time of his (and my) life. I could only wish that one day i may bump into him in the great pub in the sky,and offer him a Guinness to sing these extra two verses, Regards, DM. Well I'm drunk today......................... ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! 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