From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #278 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, July 26 2000 Volume 05 : Number 278 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Bad Smells ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] 1 Artist Thread Alert [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt [JFROXY@aol.com] [AVALON] It Happened Today (well, ten years ago apparently...) Prog Alert... ["Ivor Canning" ] [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] Re: [AVALON] The Explorers [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] Satchelmouth (a bit long...) [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] Satchmo (a bit shorter...) ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt [ShyGuy8119@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt ["Tim Kendrick" ] RE: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video [terry.lane@rs-components.com] Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] did - the most important thread *ever* ... ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Prog versus Glam ["Prince of Happiness" ] [AVALON] Manzanera ["Kate Maley" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:07:55 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bad Smells >>> "Tim Kendrick" 07/25 6:02 pm >>> >Well, it's certainly true that JazzFM smells bad... I'll have words with the cleaner about that. Their standards have been slipping for some time! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:15:28 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1 Artist Thread Alert In a message dated 25/07/00 10:23:44 GMT Daylight Time, tim63@earthlink.net writes: << Incidentally, what has Armstrong's skin colour got to do with it? >> Nothing, I was merely stating a fact, something which you cannot claim to do. Anyways, Zappa is the Man........FACT! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:22:18 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt In a message dated 25/07/00 10:40:34 GMT Daylight Time, robedwards@tinyworld.co.uk writes: << I had a T-shirt made up the other week with the cover of Country Life on (in the centre, CD size). I know it's not legal or anything but to my way of thinking I have the LP/CD 5 times so I thought, hey!! they owe me one indulgence. It's funny and maybe a little Roxy/Ferry selfish but friend's (male and female) of mine said that they found ALL the Roxy sleeves "unattractive". >> About 5 years ago I got a couple of T-shirts made in Glasgow, one was the first Roxy album and the other was the aforementioned "Country Life "sleeve. Both were often remarked upon, the RM one getting rave reviews, but the CL shirt did come in for a fair bit of abuse, mostly from irate females. How anyone can possibly find the Roxy sleeves "unattractive" is beyond me. yours, sexistly, JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:52:34 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: [AVALON] It Happened Today (well, ten years ago apparently...) Prog Alert... Dear All, Word reaches me here at the west wing of Canning Hall that will gladden the hearts of those of us whose pulses quicken to the sound of scraping catgut to a back-beat. A new Curved Air live album is scheduled for release on August 7th, taken from a reunion concert recorded at the Town & Country Club by the BBC in 1990, but never broadcast. Appearing are Francis Monkman, Florian Pilkington-Miksa and Darryl Way with original bassist Rob Martin on one track. The setlist mostly features the first three albums, 'Air Conditioning', 'The Second Album', 'Phantasmagoria' plus a new song, 'Twenty Years On'. Tracks include 'It Happened Today', 'Marie Antoinette', 'Situations', 'Hide and Seek', 'Young Mother', 'Propositions' with (of course) 'Back Street Luv' and 'Vivaldi'. Oh yes...and some woman called Sonja Kristina sings on it... S;^D Regards, Ivor. n.p. Killing Joke 'Pandemonium' ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:34:11 EDT From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] T-Shirt >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:24:32 +0100 >From: "Rob Edwards" >Subject: [AVALON] T-Shirt > >I had a T-shirt made up the other week with the cover of Country Life on >(in >the centre, CD size). I know it's not legal or anything but to my way of >thinking I have the LP/CD 5 times so I thought, hey!! they owe me one >indulgence. It's funny and maybe a little Roxy/Ferry selfish but friend's >(male and female) of mine said that they found ALL the Roxy sleeves >"unattractive". Would you believe... that the only Roxy sleeve I find at all stylish and really visually interesting, and certainly attractive, is "For Your Pleasure"? I enjoyed seeing the outtakes from the first album's photo session in the Total Recall video, since it shows that Keri-Ann is a far more attractive woman than that godawful toothy pout makes her look. The Stranded sleeve has Marilyn's face in too much shadow. The girls on the Country Life album are also proved by the outtakes to be far more attractive than the poor photograph that was chosen (and the girl on the right has made an awful decision in her lipstick, IMO). And, frankly, the less said about the deeply unpleasant-looking Jerry Hall, the better. Now that I think about it, though, that airbrushy crap they did to the FYP sleeve sort of obscures Amanda Lear's looks, too. Iconic, sure. Striking, yes. Attractive? Hardly. That said, style points for having the guts to wear those women on your shirt in public. You're going to piss off a lot of strangers. Grant Goggans Read GMS Legion, Georgia's fastest growing small press comic! It's the best idea since bread! "http://ggoggans.home.mindspring.com/cx.html" My AIM screen name is "GMSLegion." Look me up. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:03:10 -0700 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide There seems to be a little confusion about the DID thread which has been running the last few days. Just for the uninitiated: When asked to name ONE artist or song you could not live without ALWAYS name at least three to five of each - it's a compulsory part of the game... Make your choices as obscure and/or 'cool' as possible. Most people here will not have heard of them and will think that you are 'cool' by association. If you name a mainstream artist, name a 'cool' period of their career "...of course this was Glen Campbell before he went Country..." Sweeping statements are good - "...of course without Bach, Slipknot could not have existed...." Naturally everyone can name one artist than completely epitomises all music ever played by everyone anywhere - hey it's easy! Put classical music in your choices even if you don't like it. You don't want to look stupid do you? Remember whoever you name, even if it's a Tibetan noseflute trio, Ivor Canning of Avalon Muso Quality Control will have heard them, so make it their 'Hot Club de Paris period' you quote to be 'cool'... Never mention that Showaddywaddy LP you're so fond of... AT ALL TIMES have your list of material prepared, as the dangerous prospect of being stranded on a desert island with only a CD player and a number of hand picked discs is an ever-present one... ...and of course it is unlikely to be long before this thread comes around again. Hope this helps Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:46:46 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt I didn't buy it, but around the time of BOYS AND GIRLS there was an officially available t-shirt of the FOR YOUR PLEASURE cover image. And a few years later - and I did buy this, though I never broke it up and made it - there was a jigsaw puzzle of the COUNTRY LIFE cover! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:45:32 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Explorers I asked: >Do you have a track listing of the livealbum? At 21.08 +0200 0-07-25, sjaak wrote: >Yes I have: > >1. Ship Of Fools >2. Lorelei >3. Crack The Whip >4. Robert Louis Stevenson >5. Breath Of Live >6. It's Over >7. Voodoo Isle >8. You Go Up In Smoke >9. Soul Fantasy >10. Prussian Blue >11. Two Worlds Apart >12. Venus De Milo >+ Out Of The Blue (not mentioned on booklet) Out Of The Blue must be one of Manzanera's favorite Roxy compositions. >If you want to buy this CD, try Expression Records (label of Phil >Manzanera) www.manzanera.com I will. >success Thank you. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:10:50 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide Chris reveals his unrequited love for Romeo Challenger: > Never mention that Showaddywaddy LP you're so fond of... So tell us, is that 1975's 'Step Two' or 'Trocadero' from 1976 ? We need to know S8^) Regards, Ivor. BTW I don't have any Tibetan noseflute trio albums but I'm certainly open-minded enough to give them a listen if you have any. n.p. Miles Davis 'Bitches Brew' ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:13:47 EDT From: CSOlive123@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Artist Thread One of mine would be Madonna. Last year I bought the C.D. 'Ray of light' after hearing 'Frozen'. Is it just me or does anyone else agree that this track has a Ferry feel to it? I can't pinpoint any particular Ferry track. It just has that same mystery about it. Strange to read though, that it was co-produced by Patrick Leonard. Same as 'Bete Noire'. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:28:15 -0700 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide Ah yes, the original Allured/Bartram/Challenger/Deas/Gask/Field/James/Oakes line-up. Trocadero's "Run Don't Walk" pastiche was rather well done. And the Beach Boys style version of Chuck Berry's Rock and Roll Music. At least that's what I, er, um, I mean, this friend of mine who had the album told me... Chris BTW. Noseflute music is sooo passé... ;0) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivor Canning [SMTP:ivor.canning@cwcom.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:11 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide > > Chris reveals his unrequited love for Romeo Challenger: > > > Never mention that Showaddywaddy LP you're so fond of... > > So tell us, is that 1975's 'Step Two' or 'Trocadero' from 1976 ? We need > to know S8^) > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:47:20 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1 Artist Thread Alert . >Anyways, Zappa is the Man........FACT! > For JFRoxy, that sensitive soul, the gift of poetry: If Louis's Hooey, Zappa's crappa." Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:24:27 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide Chris turns up his nose: > BTW. Noseflute music is sooo passé... ;0) But NEVER to be sniffed at... Regards, Ivor. n.p. Morcheeba 'Who Can You Trust ?' ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:36:17 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt - ---------- >From: "Tim Kendrick" > I didn't buy it, but around the time of BOYS AND GIRLS there was > an officially available t-shirt of the FOR YOUR PLEASURE cover image. This t-shirt would never have existed were it not for the Louis Armstrong stevedore-style beachwear he promoted in 1937. > > And a few years later - and I did buy this, though I never broke it up and > made it - > there was a jigsaw puzzle of the COUNTRY LIFE cover! I have the jigsaw puzzle, unwrapped, and would off-load to an interested party. Off-list please ... Campari Lushlife ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:56:40 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Satchelmouth (a bit long...) Ivor, you are a connoisseur's connoisseur. Wish you could download your mind onto cd and distribute it. A right fine music fountain you are. Salute! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:56:34 -0400 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] Satchmo (a bit shorter...) At 02:42 AM 07/26/2000 +0100, you wrote: >(snip) > For me, that which begat Art Blakey and Miles Davis also spawned Kenny > G. You pays yer money... Not necessarily. I'd have to say that Kenny G's forefathers were Mr Acker Bilk and Kenny Ball. While Ball's style was based ever so slightly on Dixieland, Bilk seemed to descend from the 101 Strings school of music. And then you wake up and you got yet another version of that insipid song from Titanic. Cheers, David CPL593H! (Bryan Ferry, 1972) Check out my website-- http://www.America.net/~davdmock (Shakatak, 80s pop, Atlanta bands, Raymond Chandler, Hamlet) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:08:23 -0700 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Satchmo (a bit shorter...) Acker's a nice bloke too. He used to shop in the store where I worked. Even his international fame didn't change an ordinary fellow from Pensford in Somerset. Stranger on the Shore was on the UK chart for a whole year. Compare that with the transitory lives of our pop mayflies. Whole careers don't last that long. Natalie Imbruglia where are you now? Cheers Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: David [SMTP:davdmock@America.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 3:57 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Satchmo (a bit shorter...) > > At 02:42 AM 07/26/2000 +0100, you wrote: > >(snip) > > > For me, that which begat Art Blakey and Miles Davis also spawned Kenny > > G. You pays yer money... > > Not necessarily. I'd have to say that Kenny G's forefathers were Mr Acker > Bilk and Kenny Ball. While Ball's style was based ever so slightly on > Dixieland, Bilk seemed to descend from the 101 Strings school of > music. And then you wake up and you got yet another version of that > insipid song from Titanic. > > > Cheers, > David > > CPL593H! (Bryan Ferry, 1972) > > Check out my website-- > http://www.America.net/~davdmock > (Shakatak, 80s pop, Atlanta bands, Raymond Chandler, Hamlet) > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:15:41 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt << Are they sexist / offensive / out of date?????? >> Depends on your point of view. Today, "Yes to all the above" is a reasonable answer. But if I look at ablum covers in the context of the time they were created, the answer to all above is "No". On a very, very personal level, I have never decided if the covers are generally abusive toward the image of females (and what that might indicate about males), or if the covers are celebrating the image of females and the sexual interdependence between male and female. I gave-up and just credited the vacillation to "irony". Good old BF/RM Irony - guess I'll never really know. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:22:13 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video Bryan Ferry has a sister?? I had wondered if he was an only child but I never asked. Is she older, younger? Has Mr. Ferry other siblings? I hope they are close with each other, someone for BF to be a real person with. Everybody needs a safe playground. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:17:16 EDT From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt In a message dated 7/26/00 6:45:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gmslegion@hotmail.com writes: << Would you believe... that the only Roxy sleeve I find at all stylish and really visually interesting, and certainly attractive, is "For Your Pleasure"? I enjoyed seeing the outtakes from the first album's photo session in the Total Recall video, since it shows that Keri-Ann is a far more attractive woman than that godawful toothy pout makes her look. The Stranded sleeve has Marilyn's face in too much shadow. The girls on the Country Life album are also proved by the outtakes to be far more attractive than the poor photograph that was chosen (and the girl on the right has made an awful decision in her lipstick, IMO). And, frankly, the less said about the deeply unpleasant-looking Jerry Hall, the better. Now that I think about it, though, that airbrushy crap they did to the FYP sleeve sort of obscures Amanda Lear's looks, too. Iconic, sure. Striking, yes. Attractive? Hardly. That said, style points for having the guts to wear those women on your shirt in public. You're going to piss off a lot of strangers. >> What I'D like to know is , what do the women of the Roxy album covers look like now? Are they just as attractive as they were 25+ years ago? If don't ever recall them modelling anything asides from the RM albums.... Paul ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:21:54 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt >---------- >>I observed: >> I didn't buy it, but around the time of BOYS AND GIRLS there was >> an officially available t-shirt of the FOR YOUR PLEASURE cover image. To which Martin Stockman, eyebrow raised like Roger Moore, retorted: >This t-shirt would never have existed were it not for the Louis Armstrong >stevedore-style beachwear he promoted in 1937. > Were you not aware that the very outfit she wears was originally worn by Louis on his 1948 " FOR YOUR HAPPINESS" tour? Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:26:08 +0100 From: terry.lane@rs-components.com Subject: RE: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video I think he has two sisters Ann & Enid, my wife`s family is friends with Enid and I am sure she is/was a school teacher. I am at a family wedding in Washington this weekend,the same church as Bryan was christened in so maybe I will find out more about Bryan as he grew up in the North East. Terry - -----Original Message----- From: KB Porter [mailto:kbporte@attglobal.net] Sent: 26 July 2000 16:22 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video Bryan Ferry has a sister?? I had wondered if he was an only child but I never asked. Is she older, younger? Has Mr. Ferry other siblings? I hope they are close with each other, someone for BF to be a real person with. Everybody needs a safe playground. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon *************************************************************** The contents of this Email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. The views stated herein do not necessarily represent the view of the company. If you are not the intended recipient of this Email you may not copy, forward, disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any form whatsoever. If you have received this mail in error please Email the sender. *************************************************************** ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:38:05 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] DID Thread - A guide Dear Chris: Have you been taking wit lessons from Jocelyn again? Pretty funny stuff! Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:38:32 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video At 11.22 -0400 0-07-26, KB Porter wrote: >Bryan Ferry has a sister?? I had wondered if he was an only child but I >never asked. Is she older, younger? Has Mr. Ferry other siblings? I >hope they are close with each other, someone for BF to be a real person >with. Everybody needs a safe playground. Ferry's sister and Eddie Jobson's sister were friends (room mates?) in college, so assume that ms Ferry is younger then Bryan. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:36:10 GMT From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] did - the most important thread *ever* ... >From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" >Make your choices as obscure and/or 'cool' as possible. Most people here >will not have heard of them and will think that you are 'cool' by >association. OK - *OK*! i give up - i'll come clean! my one and only did artist is [suspenseful drumroll please ...]: the master musicians of joujouka (sp?). who needs this rock-n-roll and jazz stuff?! blech - blech and double blech! although ... 'sketches of spain' is really quite tempting. OK - and charlie parker. oh - and that mozart dude. j.s.b. would be good. and to keep it somewhat ferry-related - how about a little g. mahler? i *was* just kidding about that barney comment btw ... foop-foop peaces/ms ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:46:39 +0100 From: S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video well this kind of makes sense as my geography teacher in a gateshead secondary school (peter henderson) used to be pally (ahem) with a young miss ferry. least, that's what he told us. mind you, he also told us that kari-ann was his wife ...... steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Atterbom [SMTP:atterbom@kompost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 4:39 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video > > At 11.22 -0400 0-07-26, KB Porter wrote: > >Bryan Ferry has a sister?? I had wondered if he was an only child but I > >never asked. Is she older, younger? Has Mr. Ferry other siblings? I > >hope they are close with each other, someone for BF to be a real person > >with. Everybody needs a safe playground. > > Ferry's sister and Eddie Jobson's sister were friends (room mates?) in > college, so assume that ms Ferry is younger then Bryan. > > Daniel > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:55:53 -0700 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video I thought both Ferry's sisters were older than him. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Atterbom [SMTP:atterbom@kompost.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 4:39 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video > > At 11.22 -0400 0-07-26, KB Porter wrote: > >Bryan Ferry has a sister?? I had wondered if he was an only child but I > >never asked. Is she older, younger? Has Mr. Ferry other siblings? I > >hope they are close with each other, someone for BF to be a real person > >with. Everybody needs a safe playground. > > Ferry's sister and Eddie Jobson's sister were friends (room mates?) in > college, so assume that ms Ferry is younger then Bryan. > > Daniel > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing > selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:02:35 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video At 08.55 -0700 0-07-26, Turner, Chris (cturner) wrote: >I thought both Ferry's sisters were older than him. I don't know. All I know is that Ms Jobson is older then Eddie. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:12:50 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video - ---------- >From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" > > I thought both Ferry's sisters were older than him. They're certainly bigger than him. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:22:05 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1 Artist Thread Alert In a message dated 26/07/00 03:30:34 GMT Daylight Time, tim63@earthlink.net writes: << If Louis's Hooey, Zappa's crappa." >> File alongside Armstrong under "American humo(u)r" ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:25:45 EDT From: CSOlive123@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video I read somewhere that Bryan's sisters were older than him and he got into jazz by listening to their records all the time. He also sat with them and watched all the old H. Bogart films. One of them was a teacher and that's how Bryan eventually got into teaching, in London, at an all girls school. I wouldn't have been able to concentrate if he was my teacher! There was also a piano in the house, but Bryan didn't learn to play until he was 26! Collette ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:15:54 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Perfumed Sigh video Collette wrote: >Bryan eventually got into teaching, in London, at an all girls school. I >wouldn't have been able to concentrate if he was my teacher! But when he was a teacher he was in his very early twenties, dear, and not much of a looker at all, depending on photos I've seen from that time. The Ferry-charisma didn't start to develop until 73-74. Kicki G - -------------------------- http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG http://www.avalon.pp.se ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:05:56 -0700 From: Betsy Fowler Subject: [AVALON] Prog versus Glam Now that we've been treated to the hilarious but rather Brit-o-centric "DID" thread [not once did I see anyone explain for the benefit of non-Brits that this refers to "Desert Island Discs," which is a radio program of celebs' fave recordings]: I would **really** like to see a thread discussing the relative merits (if any) of Progressive Rock and Glam-Rock (goad, goad, wink, wink)! There has been enough mention of this in passing, Ivor vs. Reecey, Martin accused of being a glammer, etc. We have almost a month before C. Howard so there's nothing else to do. I know I would strangle on Paul Stump's book on prog. rock as his Roxy book nearly did me in. Let the games begin! Betsy ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:22:39 CDT From: "Prince of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Prog versus Glam >I would **really** like to see a thread discussing the relative merits (if >any) of Progressive Rock and Glam-Rock Hmmm. At first I really didn't like prog rock(the pretentions, Peter Gabriel, yada yada yada), but then as I looked into it, the prog rockers were just as helpful and as influential to other musicians that came after them and that many of the glam rockers worked with prog rockers. King Crimson and the various members, Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp being foremost among them. Roxy Music opened for King Crimson(or was it Genesis) for their debut. Both Bowie and Eno are well known for their collaboration, but another player in that work was, of course, Robert Fripp without which "Heroes" wouldn't be as much of a classic as it is now. Then there's the divine and happy mix of prog and glam, Queen, who I enjoy just as much. So if the gauntlet was thrown down last year, I would have picked up for glam, and in fact when comes down to it I still would because 15 minute drum solos and twee little musicals about fairies and elves make me go "bleagh." For a more honest answer, I like glam, but I do recognize that prog was helpful. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:17:51 EDT From: Foxandprince@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt Honestly, one of the things I prefer with Bryan and Roxy is the way they present women, a real weakness for feminity, myths ( see the very kitsch Mamouna Video full of weird, mythical aspects of feminity, and the Siren cover of course), the need of girls all over the place, some the bimbo type, some not. I don't think it's sexist at all, really not. I think it's great, Nick de Ville, Bryan etc seem to have a very vivid imaginery on that level. Bryan once said that he liked Lipstick and Glamour, I think you notice this in his entire work, I look at it as an homage paid to women, not an insult. Anne-Isabelle ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:31:58 EDT From: Foxandprince@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] T-Shirt 1) the pics are not sexist 2) one of the best things about Bryan and Roxy is their love for feminity in all its aspects, bimbos or not, kitsch or not, and a real sensibility for myths ( Siren, the Mamouna Video ( extreme on that level, full of weird and mythical aspects of feminity) ) 3) Bryan has ( I think... )a wonderful ironic distant to all of that, a real love of it, but also a real awareness of the role he plays and what he gives to his public, I think it's great. Anne-Isabelle ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:46:41 -0400 From: David Subject: RE: [AVALON] Satchmo (a bit shorter...) No doubt he's a very good person- I was merely pointing out the stylistic lineage. And now that I think of it, the way things tend to go downhill rather than uphill. Thirty years ago you had The Supremes and The Vandellas. Now you have Spice Girls and All Saints. But then again, thirty years ago we had NO Bryan, and now we have much Bryan, so I guess that arguement doesn't always hold water. At 08:08 AM 07/26/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Acker's a nice bloke too. He used to shop in the store where I worked. >Even his international fame didn't change an ordinary fellow from Pensford >in Somerset. Stranger on the Shore was on the UK chart for a whole year. >Compare that with the transitory lives of our pop mayflies. Whole careers >don't last that long. Natalie Imbruglia where are you now? Cheers, David CPL593H! (Bryan Ferry, 1972) Check out my website-- http://www.America.net/~davdmock (Shakatak, 80s pop, Atlanta bands, Raymond Chandler, Hamlet) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:45:25 GMT From: "Kate Maley" Subject: [AVALON] Manzanera i am looking for advice in beginning a collection of Phil Manzanera. Can anyone kindly recommend an order of listening/buying? oh and by the way , was that a snippet of Bryan on the tv last night during the intro of Alan Davies comedy, many a splintered thing (or whatever the title was)?? Kate. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #278 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest