From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #218 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, June 7 2000 Volume 05 : Number 218 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: [AVALON] More than this, you know there's nothing ["Elio Lopez" <] Re: [AVALON] the ass-kisser ["Colleen J. Matan" ] Re: [AVALON] the weakest day ["Colleen J. Matan" ] Re: [AVALON] There's that melody again... ["Elio Lopez" ] Re: [AVALON] Valentine [avalon-digest V5 #215] ["Sebastian Fasthuber" ] [AVALON] Weakest RM [JObinv01@aol.com] [AVALON] RE: avalon-digest V5 #217 ["Paul W. Floyd III" ] Re: [AVALON] SLAVE TO LOVE AND MONEY [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Bad Songs/Good Singer [avalon-digest V5 #216] [ASchulberg@ao] Re: [AVALON] first ? [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] the weakest day ["Gene" ] Re: [AVALON] More than this, you know there's nothing/first purchase [ASc] Re: [AVALON] the weakest day ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] first ? [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: [AVALON] first ? [POE1527@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] weakest [Frank Smith ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:10:43 -0400 From: "Elio Lopez" Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] More than this, you know there's nothing - ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] More than this, you know there's nothing > > In a message dated 6/7/0 12:49:28 PM, you wrote: I agree. I was a Roxy fan before that, and I really loved F & B. If you listen to the albums chronologically, I think, you can see the metamorphisis in sound, production, and arrangement that finally culminated in the the masterpiece, "Boys and Girls," and later what appears to be a less well received album here in the states, "Bete Noir," which I personally think is nothing short of stupendous. > > I think THAT may have had a good deal to do with YOUR perceptions and > subsequent stance on the Album.I personally LOVE it?It wore out the belt on > the turntable,and became the 'Score' to my/our lives for a rather fun filled > 'Young Ones' type existence while living for a time in Chiswick.Like so much > music,'IT Turns Me Right Around to my Old Friend'.It was a major contribution > to the overall feeling of the time fo me.I have listened to stuff today,(by > different Artists) that I chose to ignore years ago,and sometimes wonder if I > had not had my head stuck in the sand(or maybe Tuborg) would I really have > enjoyed it as much?Timing is everything ,they say........Regards,DM > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The indestructible tagline farts in your general direction. > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:19:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Colleen J. Matan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the ass-kisser On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Sebastian Fasthuber wrote: > i don't want to know what it is > that you have against me, but: > > can one be a fan if he disliked > about half of the work of an artist? > i doubt so. I don't have anything against you personally, Sebastian. But when you asked Peter > > pardon me, but - peter -why did > > you even come here, if you dislike > > a lot of roxy and most > > of the solo stuff? it seemed as if you were making some sort of judgment about his right to be here. And it seemed rude to me, to boot. > and i don't know what being enthusiastic > about most of the work of an artist has to > do with being a sycophantic ass-kisser. Nothing. But asking other people why they are here just because they don't unreservedly worship everything Mr. Ferry has done does. A person who likes just one Ferry/Roxy song and is able to contribute some intelligent conversation as to why s/he doesn't like the the other ones as much has as much right to be here--and to express her/himself--as does someone who loves everything. It's an open-enrollment, unmoderated list. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:29:28 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Re: First ? Oy. My first one. Ok, the first one I bought, as opposed to what someone bought for me (like The Mickey Mouse Club or Free to Be You And Me) I guess was Double Vision by Foreigner. It was a cassette. Do you remember the first cd you bought? I bought three at once- Peter Murphy "Deep", OMD "Crush" and Ocean Blue, self titled. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:23:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Colleen J. Matan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the weakest day On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Victor Hastings wrote: [...] > although i presume you're familiar with the songs on manifesto even if you > don't own it. Yep. But perhaps I'd have bought if I hadn't been familiar with it. ;-) Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:33:28 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Firsts. My brother, who is 10 years older than me gave me T-Rex Hot Love and Alice Cooper Schools out when I was about 7, but I was still wanting to be a tractor driver then and wasn't interested in the music but liked the fly on the T-Rex label. A girlfriend bought me a record token for my birthday when I was 14 and I didn't know what to buy so I gave it to one of my 5 sisters to get something with it. She brought back Janet Kay Silly Games and Roxy's Dance Away as they were in the charts at the time. I played DA to death, including Cry Cry Cry, honest!!!. I read the label saying 'from the album Manifesto' Billy Connelly reviewed Angel Eyes on a TV programme and said he was a big fan of BF and so I went out and got my first LP. Loved it to bits and felt very grown up as I now owned an LP. It was common place in my village for the musos to be walking between their house and their friends house with an LP under their arm. I joined that club and Manifesto was that phallic symbol. I bought RM Greatest Hits and These Foolish Things the same day about 2 weeks later. My elder sister told me she had all the albums that were shown within the inner sleeve of Greatest Hits but her friend had borrowed them and were over due a return. She presented me with all Ferry solo albums and Roxy albums pre 1979 in one go a few weeks later. I didn't know which way to turn. I played then all at random with no regard for chronology, which I think helped make them all sound so different. It got to the point when I was frightened to hear the next one as they all sounded so good. Now with the sands of time passing I can listen to them all more objectively and I have my own reasons for liking and disliking certain songs/albums. It's not always the music that makes me like or dislike the songs but maybe something personal at the time of it's release can make me feel certain ways about the songs. I listen to all of them all the way through from time to time and enjoy them when I do, there are maybe some albums that I don't play as often as others but it just depends on my mood at the time. I am more grown up now and have got over my desire to be a tractor driver. You could say I'm an extractor fan. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:38:06 +0200 From: "Sebastian Fasthuber" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the ass-kisser ok, i agree with you. you're absolutely right, i didn't want to take anyone's right to be here. sebastian ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:49:08 -0400 From: "Elio Lopez" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Valentine [avalon-digest V5 #215] - ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Squires To: Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:07 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Valentine [avalon-digest V5 #215] > On 7 Jun 2000, at 4:05, Rob Edwards wrote: > > > > ... would also like to nominate More Than This. Sorry, I just > > think it's weak. > Interesting that you say this, but then again us Americans do have tin ears. I love the song. Actually I love the whole album. It was not only a hit when he did it, but recently it was "redone" by 10,000 Maniacs, and it became a hit a second time! What I remember most about MTT was that at the time I was trying to get my band to cover "Take a Chance on Me." They were all game until the bassist heard MTT. More recently, my partner and I do a slightly faster version of the song, and it never fails to get people's attention. Crowd reaction has been from: "Man, you guys are the only people hip enough to touch Roxy Music," to "Cool version of that "Maniacs" song," to the response I like the best; "Who does that song? I'd like to hear more of their stuff." Thanks for putting up with this long winded speech. Cheers! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The indestructible tagline farts in your general direction. > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:05:03 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] weakest Okey, here's my two cents...(or, actually, here are my 50 Swedish öre): Worst tracks Roxy: Roxy Music: The BOB For Your Pleasure:...er....er.....can't find one!! Bogus Man...perhaps... Stranded: Even more difficult!!!! But ok, Serenade Country Life: Three and Nine (still difficult) Siren: She sells Manifesto: A tie: CryCryCry and My Little Girl Flesh+Blood: RainRainRain Avalon: While my heart is still beating Worst tracks Ferry: These Foolish Things: You won't see me Another TIme Another Place: Fingerpoppin (god, that's an easy one!) Lets Stick together: Remake/Remodel (why?why?why?) In Your Mind: Party Doll The Bride Stripped Bare: Same Old Blues Boys+Girls: I really don't know this record well enough to say (don't shoot me!), but The Chosen One is...weird. Bete Noire: I haven't listened to this record since 1988, so...can't say. Taxi: This is all a blur to me, everthing sounds the same! But ok, the title track. Mamouna: N.Y.C Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:53:16 -0400 From: "Elio Lopez" Subject: Re: [AVALON] There's that melody again... - ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivor Canning To: Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] There's that melody again... I have to agree. I remember when I first heard 'M,' while I found it interesting, and noted the changes in Ferry's vocal style, it seemed to me like an album in transition. I think F&B is a more complete, uniform album too. So did Durbland Durbland. It seems that they really paid attention to it, cause when they exploded here in the states I remember thinking, "Oh I've heard this before. What've we got five marginal Bryans?" > > To my mind, 'F+B' is a more 'complete' album than 'Manifesto'. It has a > uniformity of feeling, a sense of being an album rather than just a > collection of songs. At the time I thought it was such a vast improvement > on 'M' that I almost forgave them for doing 'covers' and losing Thompo > (well, almost but not quite...). It has a haunting quality to its sound > that even harks back to 'FYP' at times. But then I realised that, when it > came to making up compilations, *tracks* from 'F+B' hardly featured at all. > > My bet is you like 'F+B' for the feel of the album rather than the > individual songs. > > To me, 'M' is the poorer record overall ('Cry, Cry, Cry' would utterly sink > most albums IMO) although it has some gems - 'Manifesto', 'Angel Eyes', > 'Stronger Through The Years', 'Spin Me Round'. 'F+B' has no real lows (no > great high points either) but the lack of killer tracks is compensated for > by a compelling atmosphere which pervades the whole album. > > So, for 'M' it's "some good work in term but a disappointing exam result", > while for 'F+B', it's "fair progress, could do better". > > Of course, combine the two factors of overall mood and great songs and > you've got the recipe for 'Avalon', which is why I think it's the best of > the 'post-watershed' albums. > > Regards, > > Ivor. > > n.p. Rimsky Korsakov 'Snegurotchka' (...gesundheit...) > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The indestructible tagline farts in your general direction. > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:08:50 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] Flesh and Blood >In a message dated 06/07/2000 5:24:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: > ><< D'you know I've never had a problem with any of Flesh and Blood and I know >a > lot of you hate it. Why is that? I am genuinely interested, can anyone shed > a little light on the subject for me please? > >> > >Three words: Eight Miles High. > >Wretched, wretched, wretched. > >Arnie Flesh+Blood is a better record than MAnifesto, except that you didn't know it when it was released. But over time, it has stood against the time much better, IMHO. The covers are OK, but I wouldn't miss them had they been left out, and Rain Rain Rain is at least better than Vry Cry Cry. Oh yeah and Over You are definitely some of my fav Roxy songs, and SAme Old Scene is a classic. Kicki - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:10:05 +0200 From: "Sebastian Fasthuber" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Valentine [avalon-digest V5 #215] i tried, but i couldn't find a way to any BF/RM footage, so please stop these anouncements! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:12:23 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Weakest I never bother with these opinion type polls as they are all personal and can't be argued with, but here is my list of numpties from every album :- ROXY MUSIC The Bob, I also think the bass playing and drumming at the "now that we are lonely " section on Sea Breezes is better on the LST version FOR YOUR PLEASURE The Bogus man is too long and I prefer most of the llive versions of dreamhome especially 1988 & 1994 STRANDED Psalm, nice lyrics but that's not enough for me, I just don't like the rhythm that it gows into it and the band sound a bit loose. COUNTRY LIFE Tryptich, sounds out of place and would have been a nice gem as a B-side SIREN Could It Happen To Me salvaged only by a nice bit of guitar work by PM, this song sounds rather unfinished and corny to me. MANIFESTO I suppose I go with the flow on this one and that Cry Cry Cry is a bit of a howler. It reminds me of the theme music to Minder ( UK TV) in its production with the slap bass and horn arrangements. FLESH & BLOOD I really like this album but I could do without Eight Miles High, again a nice gem as a b-side. AVALON Not counting the 2 Instrumentals I have to say While My Heart's Still Beating is a no no for me. It sounds as if it's trying to be ethereal, melodic and experimental all at the same time. THESE FOOLISH THINGS Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever, jist disnae suit oor Bryan at all. ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE Fingerpoppin't the brass is over done on this track and a lot of the that album LETS STICK TOGETHER The only redone Roxy tracks that I preferred to the original was Sea Breezes, I thought 2HB & Chance Meeting had there place but Remake Remodel sounds like something Tom Jones would do in Las Vegas. IN YOUR MIND I always felt a lot of these songs were in too high a key for those Geordie tonsils. One Kiss is the prime example of him straining too much. I have noticed that if I play this album in the background when non fans are in they find the voice a bit grating after a while. THE BRIDE STRIPPED BARE Carrickfergus didn't come alive until it was done live in 1994. i like this tour's version too but the accordian samples done by Guy Fletcher and the audrey Wheeler backing vocals made it for me. Until that tour I never liked that track. BOYS AND GIRLS Ferry has sessin musicians playing very creativily all over this masterpiece except for Stone Woman where they sound like session musicians. BETE NOIRE The Name Of The Game sounds like the banner waving Portugese entry for the Eurovision Song Contest which is something you get spared from in USA unless it's time do do a multi band charity song like We Are The World TAXI All tomorrows Parties never lived up to what Bryan could have done with it. MAMOUNA The 39 Steps "where do we go from here" no where apparantly as the same riff is still plaing 5 mins later. That mono riff thing works in The Chosen One, The Main Thing, The Bogus Man but not here. AS TIME GOES BY If I didn't Care would have fitted in here no probs and September Song would have been the ideal extra track on the ATGB single. Does this answer your question Reecy J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:18:34 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE : weakest >I could lose 'Fingerpoppin' too, and HMMITTN, in fact half of ATAP, though >In Crowd and title track are brill. I used to agree with you Reecey, but I have listened to it quite a bit recently. In Crowd is brill, but Smoke Gets In Your Eyes is among the best tracks Ferry has ever recorded!!! This is not an opinion but a scientific fact, by the way. I can listen to SGIYE a hundered times and never grow tired of it. Listen to the man's VOICE!!!!! Makes you want to cry, have wild sex, paint a lovely water colour AND mingle at parties with a cool drink in your hand ALL at the SAME time!!!(Jocelyn: I'm sure you know what I mean!!) I also have a soft spot for HMMITTN, at least the opening. And Funny How Time SLips Away is rather cool too! And don't forget What A Wonderful World. But Fingerpoppin' and Walk A Mile In My shoes (background choir sounds as hens!) are too awful for words! Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:21:34 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Weakest RM I never bother with these opinion type polls as they are all personal and can't be argued with, but here is my list of numpties from every album :- ROXY MUSIC The Bob, I also think the bass playing and drumming at the "now that we are lonely " section on Sea Breezes is better on the LST version FOR YOUR PLEASURE The Bogus man is too long and I prefer most of the llive versions of dreamhome especially 1988 & 1994 STRANDED Psalm, nice lyrics but that's not enough for me, I just don't like the rhythm that it gows into it and the band sound a bit loose. COUNTRY LIFE Tryptich, sounds out of place and would have been a nice gem as a B-side SIREN Could It Happen To Me salvaged only by a nice bit of guitar work by PM, this song sounds rather unfinished and corny to me. MANIFESTO I suppose I go with the flow on this one and that Cry Cry Cry is a bit of a howler. It reminds me of the theme music to Minder ( UK TV) in its production with the slap bass and horn arrangements. FLESH & BLOOD I really like this album but I could do without Eight Miles High, again a nice gem as a b-side. AVALON Not counting the 2 Instrumentals I have to say While My Heart's Still Beating is a no no for me. It sounds as if it's trying to be ethereal, melodic and experimental all at the same time. J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:23:42 -0400 From: "Paul W. Floyd III" Subject: [AVALON] RE: avalon-digest V5 #217 Aah, now there's a thread. First purchases. No lying on this one please, no matter how cringeworthy. Actually, i'm quite proud of mine. First single : Ticket To Ride - Beatles, 1965. Bought with pocket money when I was 7. First album : Electric Warrior - T. Rex, 1971. Bought with Xmas money. Still love them both, naturally. Went off Beatles and Stones when I was 8, as my big brother liked them, (you know, brotherly rivalry and all that). My first heroes became the Troggs. Quite fancied Sandie Shaw too. Nurse ! Reecey... Alright, I shall date myself. First single, Puff the Magic Dragon; 1963. I was five and used my allowance. First Album, Low Spark of High Heeled Boys and Every Picture Tells a Story; 1971. Drove my mother absolutely bonkers with the bass line from Low Spark. Actually, thinking about it, the very first album I ever bought was Songs of Leonard Cohen in 1969 at a Garage sale. I liked the picture of the burning lady on the back of the cover and taped it to my wall. Sometime in 1975 I took it down and realized that there was an album inside the cover and I listened to it for the first time. My first epiphany of a religious nature. I still listen to this CD every day. Everyone thought I was crazy. They were right. "Either way, God wins" G. I. Gurdjieff - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 6:04 PM To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #217 ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:22:06 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Weakest BF THESE FOOLISH THINGS Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever, jist disnae suit oor Bryan at all. ANOTHER TIME ANOTHER PLACE Fingerpoppin't the brass is over done on this track and a lot of the that album LETS STICK TOGETHER The only redone Roxy tracks that I preferred to the original was Sea Breezes, I thought 2HB & Chance Meeting had there place but Remake Remodel sounds like something Tom Jones would do in Las Vegas. IN YOUR MIND I always felt a lot of these songs were in too high a key for those Geordie tonsils. One Kiss is the prime example of him straining too much. I have noticed that if I play this album in the background when non fans are in they find the voice a bit grating after a while. THE BRIDE STRIPPED BARE Carrickfergus didn't come alive until it was done live in 1994. i like this tour's version too but the accordian samples done by Guy Fletcher and the audrey Wheeler backing vocals made it for me. Until that tour I never liked that track. BOYS AND GIRLS Ferry has sessin musicians playing very creativily all over this masterpiece except for Stone Woman where they sound like session musicians. BETE NOIRE The Name Of The Game sounds like the banner waving Portugese entry for the Eurovision Song Contest which is something you get spared from in USA unless it's time do do a multi band charity song like We Are The World TAXI All tomorrows Parties never lived up to what Bryan could have done with it. MAMOUNA The 39 Steps "where do we go from here" no where apparantly as the same riff is still plaing 5 mins later. That mono riff thing works in The Chosen One, The Main Thing, The Bogus Man but not here. AS TIME GOES BY If I didn't Care would have fitted in here no probs and September Song would have been the ideal extra track on the ATGB single. Does this answer your question Reecy J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:31:23 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] first ? I'm pretty sure that the first single I bought was Donny Osmond, 1973 (I was 10 years old and the record cost me 10 Swedish kronor). The B-side was "I'm dyin'" (Can't you see that I'm dyin'? Tell the doctor it's a broken heart The only one who can make it start is killin' me, killin' me...) but I can't remember the A-side. First LP? Unknown artists covering Beatles-songs (I thought it was the original versions, but alas...), the same year. First Roxy I got was Country Life, back in 1976, which for a very long time was my fav Roxyalbum. /Kicki G Forgot to say the worst track on ATGB: Lover come back to me - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:36:06 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] SLAVE TO LOVE AND MONEY >I cannot understand why it is deemed a good move for Bryan to release yet >another compilation and I cannot get excited about it. > >I paid £15 dor the Diana tribute to get 120 seconds of the great man, and >another £11 for the Noel Coward one. I have Roxy Musics Greatest hits, The >Atlantic Years, Ultimate Collection, Street Life, More than this and Heart >Still Beating. > >One new track means I'll have to buy it but it does piss me off and I think >it's exploitation. > >Here's a guy with limited time left , loads of new & original material in >the can, flying high on the back of a successful album and tour and were >going to get yet another collection of his admittedly magnificent back >catalogue. But why ? > >We;ll soon be out of time , running out of time........but their will ALWAYS >be time to reissue old tracks. So HURRY UP Bryan, these delays in releasing >stuff in order to poke at it haven't done you any good have they?! > >Rob What a beatiful piece, Rob! Very well put and I agree totally. Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:42:25 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] the ass-kisser >i don't want to know what it is >that you have against me, but: > >can one be a fan if he disliked >about half of the work of an artist? >i doubt so. Oh, please, not this thread again!!! this discussion is so utterly boring that it makes me want to cry. Can we PLEASE have the right to like/dislike whatever songs we like without having to justify ourselves, least of all to the notion "what-if-ferry-himself-reads-this"???? Or are you just beeing extremely tongue-in-cheek and I'm too tired to notice?? /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:02:29 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bad Songs/Good Singer [avalon-digest V5 #216] In a message dated 06/07/2000 4:16:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dsquires@nildram.co.uk writes: << No, it's entirely necessary, a slice of self-deprecating whimsy, balancing cocaine-fuelled histrionics on one side with high camp Roxy stomp on t'other. But try the UK cassette track listing, where Really Good Time follows TTOIA and precedes AIWIY. That works too! >> I see 3 and 9 as a breather after the blowout of TTOIA but it's not my cup of tea. References are clever and, after all, how many songs are there about the switch to decimalization? But Really Good Time, which I consider a great song and one Bryan should be covering on this tour, would be a much better interlude. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:02:27 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] first ? In a message dated 06/07/2000 1:53:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ivor.canning@cwcom.net writes: << ...who was already horrified by the fact that he will be 21 again (for the 18th time) tomorrow, without all this nostalgia S;^) >> Happy Birthday, Ivor. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:55:03 -0400 From: "Gene" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the weakest day - -----Original Message----- From: Mark Tompkins To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] the weakest day >It was surprising to read that someone disliked most of "As Time Goes By." What`s so surprising about it? Hell, I dislike *all* of it. Gene...who dislikes all of it! ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:04:12 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this, you know there's nothing/first purchase In a message dated 06/07/2000 3:46:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, VHastings@worldnet.att.net writes: << i do believe the description is from the rolling stone review -- a real slagging, too. if i remember right they called it a "shockingly bad" RM album that 'evokes a kind of morbid fascination...." or words to that effect. i haven't read the review in 20 years - oh how one's memory slips. >> Thought I still had my Rolling Stone book of reviews but sold it at a yard sale a few weeks back. I've got Robert Christgau's "Rock Albums of the 70's- A Critical Guide" if you folks want excerpts from that. It leaves off at "Manifesto". Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:16:16 -0400 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the weakest day - ---- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] the weakest day > >It was surprising to read that someone disliked most of "As Time Goes By." > > What`s so surprising about it? Hell, I dislike *all* of it. > > Gene...who dislikes all of it! traitor. unsubscribe immediately. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:26:27 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Firsts. In a message dated 6/7/00 6:46:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JObinv01@aol.com writes: << I was frightened to hear the next one as they all sounded so good. I am more grown up now and have got over my desire to be a tractor driver. You could say I'm an extractor fan. >> What a charming post John,nice to read something with so much warmth here today. Regards, DM. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:29:00 +0100 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] RE : firsts Mr. O'Brien, your brother is clearly a man of impeccable taste. 'Hot Love' and then 'Schools Out' (one of THE great summer anthems). It's seldom I laugh out loud when reading the list but the extractor fan reference really got me. BTW, how are the other 38 of the population ? Reecey... np : Chet Baker in Paris (sublime !). ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:40:54 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] first ? First Single Purchased: I Think I Love You by The Partridge Family and I'll Be There by the Jackson 5. First LP Purchased: School's Out, Alice Cooper. Heard the single on the radio and went out immediately and spent my lawn mowing money on the album. The cover was so cool - school desk with fold-out legs. My 12-year-old mind wasn't sure what to make of the panties included. Not sure if I was "debased" by this purchase, but before long I was into Iggy/Dolls/Bowie/Velvets. First Rock Concert: Alice Cooper, Billion Dollar Babies tour. First Rock Concert I Walked Out On: Peter Frampton. The pot I scored before the show had worn off somewhere in the middle of Gary Wright's opening act. ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:53:24 EDT From: POE1527@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] first ? that explains a lot wfs:] ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:24:55 -0700 From: Frank Smith Subject: RE: [AVALON] weakest Kicki - Serenade??!!!! - that's a great tune!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Kicki Gustafsson [mailto:kicki.gustafsson@op.se] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 15:05 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] weakest Okey, here's my two cents...(or, actually, here are my 50 Swedish öre): Worst tracks Roxy: Roxy Music: The BOB For Your Pleasure:...er....er.....can't find one!! Bogus Man...perhaps... Stranded: Even more difficult!!!! But ok, Serenade Country Life: Three and Nine (still difficult) Siren: She sells Manifesto: A tie: CryCryCry and My Little Girl Flesh+Blood: RainRainRain Avalon: While my heart is still beating Worst tracks Ferry: These Foolish Things: You won't see me Another TIme Another Place: Fingerpoppin (god, that's an easy one!) Lets Stick together: Remake/Remodel (why?why?why?) In Your Mind: Party Doll The Bride Stripped Bare: Same Old Blues Boys+Girls: I really don't know this record well enough to say (don't shoot me!), but The Chosen One is...weird. Bete Noire: I haven't listened to this record since 1988, so...can't say. Taxi: This is all a blur to me, everthing sounds the same! But ok, the title track. Mamouna: N.Y.C Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, nattchef/webredaktör Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ Come to Las Vegas and hear the indestructible tagline sing selections from "The Jazz Singer" ! 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