From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #152 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, April 15 2000 Volume 05 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Ever heard the bootleg of the sessions with Ferry, Kraftwerk and Bernie Worrell? [Russell Schaffer <] Re: [AVALON] Ferry's A Fink!! [Jim Rosencutter ] [AVALON] Brain ONE [Russell Schaffer ] [AVALON] Sonically Dense Sacharine New Age Disco Pop Make out music by a fallen genius and his weary compatriots [] RE: [AVALON] Off-topic - bogus Smiths tune in advertisement ["eRacerX" ] RE: [AVALON] Filigree Fancy ["Andrew Shearer" ] Re: [AVALON] Casanova.....was 3+9, Prairie Rose & Jerry Hall. ["Andrew Sh] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:36:59 -0700 From: Russell Schaffer Subject: [AVALON] Ever heard the bootleg of the sessions with Ferry, Kraftwerk and Bernie Worrell? Returning to action after four years of solo projects, Roxy Music redefined its sound and agenda on Manifesto. More than ever, Roxy sounds like Bryan Ferry's backing band, as the group strips away their art-rock influences, edits out the instrumental interludes in favor of concise pop songs, and adds layers of stylish disco rhythms. Although the songwriting is distressingly inconsistent, there are a number of wonderful moments on the record, particularly in the sighing "Angel Eyes" and the heartbroken "Dance Away." Still, trading sonic adventure for lush, accessible disco-pop isn't entirely satisfactory, even if it is momentarily seductive. -- Stephen Thomas Erlewine An even slicker record than Manifesto, Flesh & Blood precariously balances between alluringly seductive, sophisticated soul-pop and cloying, radio-ready disco-pop. At its best, the album is effortlessly suave and charming -- "Over You" is one of their greatest singles, and "Oh Yeah" is nearly as persuasive -- but much of the record is devoted to ill-formed, stylish lounge-pop. In particular, the reliance on reworked covers of "In the Midnight Hour" and "Eight Miles High" is distressing, not only because it signals a lack of imagination, but also because it suggests that Flesh & Blood is simply a lesser solo effort from Bryan Ferry. And even the handful of undeniably strong moments can't erase the feeling that Roxy Music was beginning to run out of ideas. -- Stephen Thomas Erlewine - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:58:49 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's A Fink!! Here's what Eno has to say about it: “Dead Finks is not about Bryan Ferry. After all the music was recorded and the words written, Chris Thomas (my producer and Roxy’s as well) said, ‘you’ll get me shot for that track. It’s obviously about Bryan.’ So I listened back to it and it obviously was. It was certainly something I hadn’t realised. Essentially all these songs have no meaning that I invested in them. Meanings can be generated within their own frame-work. It may be a very esoteric thing to talk about but I don’t think it’s entirely out of the question.” -- Brian Eno, 1973 Jim R. Russell Schaffer wrote: > > Although there probably isn't much to substantiate the Casonova is ENo > theory, it sure is fun. I'm sure you guys have already analyzed Eno's > Ferry song "Dead Finks don't talk" > > Oh cheeky cheeky > Oh naughty sneaky > You're so perceptive > And I wonder how you knew. > > But dead finks don't walk too well (oh no) > A bad sense of direction (oh no) > And so they stumble round in threes (oh no) > Such a strange collection. > > Oh, you headless chicken > Can those poor teeth take so much kicking? > You're always so charming > As you make your way up here. > > And dead finks don't dress too well > No discrimination > To be a zombie all the time > Requires such dedication. > > "Oh please sir, will you let it go by, > 'Cos I failed both tests with my legs both tied > In my place the stuff is all there > I've been ever so sad for a very long time. > > My my, they wanted the works: > Can you this? and that? I never got a letter back > More for me, bless my soul > More for me, bless my soul." > > Oh perfect masters > They thrive on disasters > They all look so harmless > Till they find their way up here. > > But dead finks don't talk too well > They've got a shaky sense of diction > It's not so much a living hell > It's just a dying fiction. > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New > Jersey." - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:08:08 -0700 From: Russell Schaffer Subject: [AVALON] Brain ONE "Dead Finks is not about Bryan Ferry...and it obviously was." Brian Eno, 1973 don't contradict yourself or anything, oh domed one. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:37:57 -0700 From: Russell Schaffer Subject: [AVALON] Sonically Dense Sacharine New Age Disco Pop Make out music by a fallen genius and his weary compatriots Does anyone find it objectionable that this mailing list is called Avalon? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:28:48 -0400 From: "eRacerX" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Off-topic - bogus Smiths tune in advertisement - -----Original Message----- From: mark shanahan .. what about 'the bob'? bogus man? these two are not my favorites. Bogus man rules. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:39:30 -0400 From: "eRacerX" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Filigree Fancy - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew in Evanston Actually, Nick Drake (!) has a song on a car commercial here in the States, and I have heard it reported (on NPR) that he has sold as many discs in the wake of the commercial as he has in the twenty odd years since he died. I have read somewhere that his sister gets all the $, and some people feel she is exploiting Drake. I wish everyone owned Bryter Later and all his records. -H. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 06:55:05 GMT From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Filigree Fancy I think his sister is Gabrielle Drake, used to be an actress in UK >From: "eRacerX" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Filigree Fancy >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 02:39:30 -0400 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew in Evanston >Actually, Nick Drake (!) has a song on a car commercial here in the States, >and I have heard it reported (on NPR) that he has sold as many discs in the >wake of the commercial as he has in the twenty odd years since he died. > > >I have read somewhere that his sister gets all the $, and some people feel >she is exploiting Drake. >I wish everyone owned Bryter Later and all his records. > -H. > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > >Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New >Jersey." > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 07:05:50 GMT From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Casanova.....was 3+9, Prairie Rose & Jerry Hall. "Or do you live there"... I thought "Casa" meant home in Italian or some other language, hence Casa Nova. I could be totally wrong but if I am its been worth it just for being impressed with the line for so many years. Andrew >From: "Simon Galloway" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] Casanova.....was 3+9, Prairie Rose & Jerry Hall. >Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:45:51 +0100 > > >>> "mark shanahan" 04/14 3:07 pm >>> > >that's the first i've heard of jagger - re: 'casanova'. i thought it was > >supposedly a toss-up between being about eno or ferry himself. so, >what's > >the consensus? > >I always thought it was about a f*&k^d up woman, "I know my place is here >with you tonight, but not together" and is also ambiguos "Casanova - is >that your name or do you live there?". Maybe it's about a transexual, any >ideas? Any Roxy cover "girls" come to mind? > >SimonG > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > >Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New >Jersey." > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Name the source: "I've got enough attitude to kill everyone in New Jersey." ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #152 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest