From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #124 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, March 26 2000 Volume 05 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... [long] [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Bootlegs. ["Gene" ] [AVALON] film noir /Thin link.... [KRNCHSE@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Garbage...was something to do with KMart...(part 1) ["Tracy ] Re: [AVALON] long compilations-oriented rant ["Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... [long] Hey, Mark! Don't knock Kmart - Even Mr. Ferry has shopped there!! With regards to the topic at hand and to Avalonians who have written on it, please consider the following: Disagreement might dissipate if one relates to the other's frame of reference. A hit single in the UK does not equal, in volume of sales, a hit single in the USA. While BF/RM fans world wide may have a certain savvy which catalyzes their musical tastes, there really is no world wide market in terms of a particular musical taste or like. This is why we frequently see record releases in a country or region while another geographic part of the world is offered a different release. A fan of a particular artist will like certain qualities/attributes of said artist while another fan may like the artist for the same, similar, or different reasons. That is a personal matter based in complex reality. Per capita, Bryan Ferry is more well known in the UK vs the USA. Mr. Ferry has been very successful in the former and, unfortunately, has not been commercially successful in the latter of these countries (principally due to a lack of exposure and access, IMO). However, I believe BF/RM fans world wide want Mr. Ferry to be comfortable enough financially, personally, artistically, and whatever it takes for him to get to us more more more of his great work. Fellows - - we must remain, respectful. KBP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 06:58:03 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... [long] >From: KB Porter >Hey, Mark! Don't knock Kmart - Even Mr. Ferry has shopped there!! i knock it even when i'm shopping there, so i think it's *OK*. oh - when i'm not at charivari or wherever, globetrotting ... lunching in rome, dinner in paris. you know how it is. ooooh, running late for the plane now! >Disagreement might dissipate if one relates to the other's frame of >reference. we don't want to; it's more fun this way. seriously, i thought we were having a discussion. had it not gotten as lengthy as it did, i'd have thought it fairly engaging. in essence, a discussion all based in theory, though interesting - at least for me (and yet, almost completely irrelevant in reality - this is its saving grace). and - did anyone notice - it was all **on-topic** [*ohhhhh yeaaahhhh*]! >While BF/RM fans world wide may have a certain savvy which catalyzes >their musical tastes, there really is no world wide market in terms of a >particular musical taste or like. This is why we frequently see record >releases in a country or region while another geographic part of the world >is offered a different release. you're kidding! >A fan of a particular artist will like certain qualities/attributes of said >artist while another fan may like the artist for the same, similar, or >different reasons. That is a personal matter based in complex reality. really? >However, I believe BF/RM fans world wide want Mr. Ferry to be >comfortable enough financially, personally, artistically, and whatever it >takes for him to get to us more more more of his great work. Fellows- we >must remain, respectful. KBP oh, yeah? well, actually - the idea of ferry playing for coins in the subway is a very attractive picture - for me. and this is what i meant by bryan being HUGELY successful! see? thanks, gotta go now. i's off to tea with my new friend andy cooper! bye-bye/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:27:54 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Fwd: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... [long] pt. 1 >From: "Ivor Canning" >To: "mark shanahan" well, in the final irony, ivor has asked me to send this to avalon since, for some reason, he can't post it. he's also agreed to adopt me and bring me up right, which is really very nice - so, thanks dad! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ivor Canning >To: Avalon >Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:44 AM >Subject: Re: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... [long] > > For some reason, this doesn't seem to have been posted although > it's >in my 'Sent' folder, so here it is again (and apologies if > it's a repeat >post) >____________________________________________________________________________ > > Mark brings things back into perspective with the voice of reason: > > > actually, though i seem to have missed the mark, i was > > attempting >to widen the discussion, to attempt a DIALOGUE - i > > thought. my >intention wasn't to hit a raw nerve or make anyone > > blow their neurons >right out of their skull ... > > I think that's fair comment - but I wish you'd told me before. > I've >had to spend a lot of time looking for those precious > neurons ! S8^) > > > *i'm* the average guy on the street, ivor. geeezzzz. but i > > think >i'm more inclined to be into roxy/ferry than the > > (admittedly) extreme >example of your basic garth brooks/celine > > dion/vile cher individual. > i would suggest that there is > > a happy medium between the average >k-mart shopper and us ... > > and that would be someone who can >*appreciate* the music. so, > > if there's a marketing *target*, let it be >on them. and,can > > > we agree that this will never happen in reality anyway (that > > is, >the average joe [in the single-most universal sense of that > > concept] >'catching' on to roxy/ferry)!? > > I agree entirely that some people will be more 'receptive' to > >Roxy/Ferry than others; I just think it's very difficult to > predict who >they are likely to be. Firstly, people (even the > 'average' ones) are >complicated and secondly the Roxy/Ferry back > catalogue is very diverse, >so that even amongst fans, it's > difficult to get agreement on what's good >or bad about a > > particular song let alone a whole album. 'All styles served > > > > >here', indeed. > > Just to illustrate this point, back in 1974, I was the only Roxy > fan >in a school seemingly full of Led Zeppelin and Bay City > Rollers fans >(musical allegiances in those days were clearly > displayed as DIY artwork >on school bags). Surprisingly, it was > some of the BCR fans who turned to >me one day and said - "that > song, 'All I Want Is You', that's really good >!" - and promptly > went out and bought it. Now, they don't come much more > > 'lower-common-denominator' than that ! > > The point we're both making (I think) is that people can't like > what >they have no opportunity to hear; that's not to say they > will all like it >of course, but there has to be real freedom of > choice for even the casual >buyer (and that's not being elitist > BTW, Noam !). Simply making music >accessible to people doesn't > (of itself) denigrate the art. Now exactly >*how* you make that > music accessible is another cartload of eels, which I >don't want > > start on now, but if the major labels can't/won't do the job > properly, >just look at DGM and Expression records... > > > no, i want ferry to be HUGELY successful. > > Ah, good ! > > > but, it all depends on your definition of success, doesn't it? > > if >you're talking 23 bathroomed mansions like (another extreme > > example) >bill gates, then no. i don't want to see ferry > > worrying and freaking >out because he has no recording contract > > > either. > > It's a difficult line you're treading there though, Mark - how do > you >put the brakes on success without stifling it altogether ? > How much >success is enough ? and over what period of time ? My > worry is, if you >aim low... > > (BTW Robert Fripp has this balancing act pretty much taped, but > that's >at least a three pint discussion !) > > > and, in essence, i was trying to clarify the (what i thought > > was) >the british feeling/need to see ferry have 'hit singles' - > > which i >found baffling BECAUSE i guess i equated *that* with > > 'volume sales' of >records, which i equate with people like > > garth brooks, michael bolton - >whomever. > > Yes, I read your correspondence with Robert W and I can see where > the >confusion set in. I apologise for my knee-jerk reaction - it > just seemed >like an anti-success bash to me... > > > OK, we agree there. but, to my mind - if ferry were to have a > > >BUNCH of hits now - it all depends on what it does for him > > anyway. i >don't want to see someone of his artistic stature to > > be scrounging >around for recording contracts. NEITHER do i > > like to hear about bryan >introducing 'the only face' on this > > tour as from 'a little-known album >i did called mamouna'. nor > > > do i want him to be heartbroken for (what he feels) is a lack > > of >an audience. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:35:34 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Fwd: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... [long] pt. 2 > > I agree again. I think, too, the numbers thing is about self > esteem >as much as money for Bryan. He was obviously hurt and > angry by what he >saw as a rejection of 'TBSB' as much as by low > sales. All artists are >sensitive about their work and lack of > recognition hurts as much as >falling sales (possibly more). > Conversely, nothing succeeds like success >and that boost of > confidence can do wonders for creative productivity >(hint...). > > > > > i understand the need for an audience. and even given his > > > snail-like pace, it's a PITY that virgin can't work with him > > more. > the current tour should be proof all the way around, if > > you ask me. > > > > I agree wholeheartedly - I don't really know the ins-and-outs of > >Bryans' recent contractual situation, but I do know that Robert > Fripp is >much more 'robust' in his business dealings now (after > his very bitter >bust-up with EG). Bryan strikes me as being less > assertive in this >regard. It would be interesting to see him > join DGM like Bill Nelson and >John Paul Jones have done. BTW I > keep wondering what a collaborative >Ferry, Fripp (and dare I > think it ?) Eno project would sound like... > > > > > again, what i'd like to see is for him to be successful enough > > to >have a healthy recording contract (an oxymoron?), artistic > > latitude up >the wazoo and the barest of bare minimal > > involvement from the business >side of things. and maybe even > > enough to put food on the table for lucy >and the boys. oooh- > > > oooh - and maybe even for his children's education. bryan can > > eat >TV dinners, can't he? > > > > I think it's a very good starting pint, sorry, point. > > > >To paraphrase: I don't want Bryan to drop his standards - I > > >want >other people to hear the standard of material he is > > >capable of (new or >compiled)and to go buy more of it so he > > >knows and the record company >knows how good it is and he can > > >do more like it !!! There, what's >wrong with that ? > > > OK, at least i can agree with your above paragraph. this > > >would have been much more 'fun' over a couple of guinesses, > > n'est-ce >pas? but, if we don't agree after this, i say it's > > pistols at dawn, >dammit! > > How do you feel about 'Black Bush' ? > > > vive ferry et vive la resistance de celine dion! mois, je dit > > >*oui*! > > 'Ils sont fous ces Canadiennes !' (have I got that right ??) > > > p.s. - btw, i just contributed to more of ferry's bellpushes & > > >faucets. i bought ALL the remasters - save 'mamouna', 'taxi', > > 'heart', >& 'viva!'. > > It's God's work you're doing there, Mark ! Unfortunately the > >Manzanera releases with additional notes by that beardy string > plucker >are due soon, too. I'm off to see my bank manager - I > just hope it's >not the same one as Martinoooooooo S8^) > > Pax, > > Ivor. > > Can we declare this thread officially closed now, please ?? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:58:13 -0500 From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: Fwd: [AVALON] the old farts This part is cute but after that it's too hard to tell who's saying what, with everything being italicized. Ivor, kindly re-post when things are back to normal? Noam ..another of the 'e-mail challenged' (really, it's been a long week and I just can't be bothered to decipher by personality-type) mark shanahan wrote: > >From: "Ivor Canning" > >To: "mark shanahan" > well, in the final irony, ivor has asked me to send this to avalon since, > for some reason, he can't post it. he's also agreed to adopt me and bring > me up right, which is really very nice - so, thanks dad! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 11:03:21 -0500 From: Noam Bronstein Subject: [AVALON] Re: KBP/pax (was farts) KB Porter wrote: > Fellows > - we must remain, respectful. KBP > again, my apologies. I knew I shouldn't have sent that. No offense intended toward Ivor or any Avalonians (Methodist or otherwise). I was cranky and was just 'venting'. Badly needed a Friday night reggae session to chill me out. All is well now. Noam - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 16:49:43 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the old farts enclave at k-mart ... again (short this time !) mark shanahan kindly acts as messenger to say: > well, in the final irony, ivor has asked me to send this to avalon since, > for some reason, he can't post it. he's also agreed to adopt me and bring > me up right, which is really very nice - so, thanks dad! You know it makes sense ! Shouldn't you be doing your homework instead of hanging out with those weirdos on that 'enterknit' thing ? S;^) I'll try re-posting in two parts (if this post works). I will title it 'Garbage' so those of you with better things to do than read ANY more on this subject (i.e. most people) can set up your filters accordingly S8^) Regards (and with the music's best interest at heart at all times), Ivor. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:29:09 +0000 From: thom.wallace@net.ntl.com Subject: [AVALON] Bootlegs. Does anybody have any information on the following bootleg cd's? Interpretation Live Dates Vol. 1 & 2 World Ballad Collection. If need be please mail me off list. Tom. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:42:59 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: [AVALON] Garbage...was something to do with KMart...(part 1) Mark brings things back into perspective with the voice of reason: > actually, though i seem to have missed the mark, i was attempting to widen > the discussion, to attempt a DIALOGUE - i thought. my intention wasn't to > hit a raw nerve or make anyone blow their neurons right out of their skull ... I think that's fair comment - but I wish you'd told me before. I've had to spend a lot of time looking for those precious neurons ! S8^) > *i'm* the average guy on the street, ivor. geeezzzz. but i think i'm more > inclined to be into roxy/ferry than the (admittedly) extreme example of your > basic garth brooks/celine dion/vile cher individual. >i would suggest that there is a happy medium between the average > k-mart shopper and us ... and that would be someone who can *appreciate* the > music. so, if there's a marketing *target*, let it be on them. and, can we > agree that this will never happen in reality anyway (that is, the average > joe [in the single-most universal sense of that concept] 'catching' on to > roxy/ferry)!? I agree entirely that some people will be more 'receptive' to Roxy/Ferry than others; I just think it's very difficult to predict who they are likely to be. Firstly, people (even the 'average' ones) are complicated and secondly the Roxy/Ferry back catalogue is very diverse, so that even amongst fans, it's difficult to get agreement on what's good or bad about a particular song let alone a whole album. 'All styles served here ', indeed. Just to illustrate this point, back in 1974, I was the only Roxy fan in a school seemingly full of Led Zeppelin and Bay City Rollers fans (musical allegiances in those days were clearly displayed as DIY artwork on school bags). Surprisingly, it was some of the BCR fans who turned to me one day and said - "that song, 'All I Want Is You', that's really good !" - and promptly went out and bought it. Now, they don't come much more 'lower-common-denominator' than that ! The point we're both making (I think) is that people can't like what they have no opportunity to hear; that's not to say they will all like it of course, but there has to be real freedom of choice for even the casual buyer (and that's not being elitist BTW, Noam !). Simply making music accessible to people doesn't (of itself) denigrate the art. Now exactly *how* you make that music accessible is another cartload of eels, which I don't want start on now, but if the major labels can't/won't do the job properly, just look at DGM and Expression records... > no, i want ferry to be HUGELY successful. Ah, good ! >but, it all depends on your > definition of success, doesn't it? if you're talking 23 bathroomed mansions > like (another extreme example) bill gates, then no. i don't want to see > ferry worrying and freaking out because he has no recording contract either. It's a difficult line you're treading there though, Mark - how do you put the brakes on success without stifling it altogether ? How much success is enough ? and over what period of time ? My worry is, if you aim low... (BTW Robert Fripp has this balancing act pretty much taped, but that's at least a three pint discussion !) > and, in essence, i was trying to clarify the (what i thought was) the > british feeling/need to see ferry have 'hit singles' - which i found > baffling BECAUSE i guess i equated *that* with 'volume sales' of records, > which i equate with people like garth brooks, michael bolton - whomever. Yes, I read your correspondence with Robert W and I can see where the confusion set in. I apologise for my knee-jerk reaction - it just seemed like an anti-success bash to me... > OK, we agree there. but, to my mind - if ferry were to have a BUNCH of hits > now - it all depends on what it does for him anyway. i don't want to see > someone of his artistic stature to be scrounging around for recording > contracts. NEITHER do i like to hear about bryan introducing 'the only > face' on this tour as from 'a little-known album i did called mamouna'. nor > do i want him to be heartbroken for (what he feels) is a lack of an > audience. I agree again. I think, too, the numbers thing is about self esteem as much as money for Bryan. He was obviously hurt and angry by what he saw as a rejection of 'TBSB' as much as by low sales. All artists are sensitive about their work and lack of recognition hurts as much as falling sales (possibly more). Conversely, nothing succeeds like success and that boost of confidence can do wonders for creative productivity (hint...). ___________________________________________ (part 2 follows...you LUCKY people !) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 17:44:27 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: [AVALON] Garbage...was something to do with KMart...(part 2) (part 2 - you're not seriously going to read this as well are you ??) _______________________________________________ >i understand the need for an audience. and even given his > snail-like pace, it's a PITY that virgin can't work with him more. the > current tour should be proof all the way around, if you ask me. I agree wholeheartedly - I don't really know the ins-and-outs of Bryan's recent contractual situation, but I do know that Robert Fripp is much more 'robust' in his business dealings now (after his very bitter bust-up with EG). Bryan strikes me as being less assertive in this regard. It would be interesting to see him join DGM like Bill Nelson and John Paul Jones have done. BTW I keep wondering what a collaborative Ferry, Fripp (and dare I think it ?) Eno project would sound like... > again, what i'd like to see is for him to be successful enough to have a > healthy recording contract (an oxymoron?), artistic latitude up the wazoo > and the barest of bare minimal involvement from the business side of things. > and maybe even enough to put food on the table for lucy and the boys. > oooh-oooh - and maybe even for his children's education. bryan can eat TV > dinners, can't he? I think it's a very good starting pint, sorry, point. > >To paraphrase: I don't want Bryan to drop his standards - I want other > >people to hear the standard of material he is capable of (new or compiled) > >and to go buy more of it so he knows and the record company knows how good > >it is and he can do more like it !!! There, what's wrong with that ? > > OK, at least i can agree with your above paragraph. >this would have been much more 'fun' over a couple of guinesses, n'est-ce pas? > but, if we don't agree after this, i say it's pistols at dawn, dammit! How do you feel about 'Black Bush' ? > vive ferry et vive la resistance de celine dion! mois, je dit *oui*! 'mille fois !' (have I got that right ??) > peaces/ms > > p.s. - btw, i just contributed to more of ferry's bellpushes & faucets. i > bought ALL the remasters - save 'mamouna', 'taxi', 'heart', & 'viva!'. It's God's work you're doing there, Mark ! Unfortunately the Manzanera releases with additional notes by that beardy string plucker are due soon, too. I'm off to see my bank manager - I just hope it's not the same one as Martinoooooooo S8^) Pax, Ivor. Can we declare this thread officially closed now, please ?? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 19:29:52 +0000 From: Peter Dewey Subject: [AVALON] Tour Dates Thanks to Richard for posting the latest newsletter. Anyone know anything about the supposed concert in Cardiff? The BF site says nothing and I've phoned some possible venues and agencies with no joy. - -- Peter Dewey - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 18:26:32 -0500 From: "Gene" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bootlegs. - -----Original Message----- From: thom.wallace@net.ntl.com To: Avalon Mailinglist Date: Saturday, March 25, 2000 12:33 PM Subject: [AVALON] Bootlegs. >Does anybody have any information on the following bootleg cd's? > >Interpretations This is the same '75 Siren tour material that has been going around for decades. Our CD Tree version is more complete with 13 tracks. Interpretations has, I think, 10 tracks. >Live Dates Vol. 1 & 2 >World Ballad Collection. Can`t help you here without more info. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 18:55:17 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] film noir /Thin link.... Just thought one or two people might be interested,due to much chat about movies/links to Ferry recently?This months [April/ American] edition of Architectural Digest,has a couple of nice articles.Firstly there is a piece"Picture Palaces of England" covering the marvelous interiors and design of Engish cinemas.Places where many a childhood Saturday morning were spent!There is a nice photo of the News Theatre (now,Tyneside Film Theatre),Newcastle-upon-Tyne,where i'm sure Ferry had his corn popped on one or more occasions! Secondly,a feature on Film Noir posters-check out Rita Hayworth as "Gilda",all lipstick and leather........ DM - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:24:07 GMT From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Garbage...was something to do with KMart...(part 1) Ivor, I agree when you say that it is difficult to agree on what is good or bad about a particular song. It is difficult enough to agree what should be included on Bryan's forthcoming box set and what might have been included on the Slave To Love release in Sweden. It is definately and Each To His Own issue. Also, you are showing your age by your example. I think people who discovered Bryan or Roxy at different times have different views. For example I discovered Bryan when he did 'Slave To Love'. I guess I like his solo stuff best and 'Boys and Girls' will always be my favourite album. Those who were around when Roxy Music was at it's height may prefer certain Roxy songs rather than the solo stuff. I must admit, I do like 'Virginia Plain' though! I've also become attached to 'All I Want Is You' since I saw the performance on TOTP2 a few of weeks ago! Tracy. >even amongst >fans, it's difficult to get agreement on what's good or bad about a >particular song let alone a whole album. 'All styles served here ', >indeed. > >Just to illustrate this point, back in 1974, I was the only Roxy fan in a >school seemingly full of Led Zeppelin and Bay City Rollers fans (musical >allegiances in those days were clearly displayed as DIY artwork on school >bags). Surprisingly, it was some of the BCR fans who turned to me one day >and said - "that song, 'All I Want Is You', that's really good !" - and >promptly went out and bought it. Now, they don't come much more >'lower-common-denominator' than that ! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? Irene: wounded crank or Glenn Close with a keyboard? Cast your ballots!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 03:38:14 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] long compilations-oriented rant Will Frechette opines: > And I suppose it would have to be a big triumph for those lowest common > denom. Cher/Ricky Martin fans to start emailing the Avalon list. Oh wait, > that happened didn't it. Stranger things have happened, Will - self-confessed Duran Duran fans for a start... S;^) Pax, Ivor. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonian Fatal Distraction poll: E-man: misogynist or Methodist? 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