From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #118 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, March 21 2000 Volume 05 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Bye for now! [Kicki Gustafsson ] RE: [AVALON] Re: La Perla [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Box Sets ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] Box sets [Noam Bronstein ] [AVALON] New Roxy Live ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* [Colleen Matan ] RE: [AVALON] La Perla [Jocelyn Fiske ] [AVALON] pearls and swine [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] The Great PT [jspellman ] Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live ["Decophile" ] [AVALON] Slave to love [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] La Perla [Kicki Gustafsson ] RE: [AVALON] La Perla [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [Noam Bronstein ] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [thom.wallace@net.ntl.com] Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] the high road ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] Jas does Amsterdam ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:33:46 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bye for now! >Hi Bickering Numbnuts! > >As much as I love you guys, I'm gonna have to >temporarily disentangle myself from all the goings on >because I can't afford to check my email every day and >find a hundred new messages. Kicki, think you can >leave my profile up? I'll be back soon with a new >email address sure! just mail me with your new e-mailaddress and i'll change the profile for you. Kicki - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:35:30 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: La Perla >Mother of Pearl - crucified. >The Roxy No I Opus as monotonous soft funk lilt devoid of passion with no >accord for the lyrical masterpiece it is. >Shoot the backing singers and be thankful that this is the shorter version >(I've heard the full 9 minutes and it doesn't get any better). >Having said that, if I'd never heard the original I'd probably find this an >innocuous little ditty that grows on you. >But I have, and it's not. >Mr Ferry, go straight to confessional for you have sinned. > >Jocelyn Josie dear, I couldn't agree with you more. It's like drawing a moustache (sp?) on Mona lisa - it's new but is it improved? No! /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:21:09 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Box Sets >From: Noam Bronstein >Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 12:43:03 -0500 >I saw a 20-LP Thelonious Monk box set the other day... now that is pretty >rare I believe, although I'm no jazz expert. (Anyone know what it might be >worth?) well, first - noam, are you already gearing up for april fool's day? [please note date of post] second, how much *was* this 20-LP boxed set for thelonius? or is this like an april-fools for dilettante jazz fans? peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] Box sets peaces/ms wrote: >well, first - noam, are you already gearing up for april fool's day? >[please note date of post] Oops. No, I've had major clock problems lately (that's why I noticed Crystal's trubbles). Never been off by days before, usually hours. >second, how much *was* this 20-LP boxed set for thelonius? or is this >like an april-fools for dilettante jazz fans? It was a real set, known as the Riverside sessions. The asking price was $140 C (about $95 USD), and I've heard it's worth ~$300 USD, but haven't been able to confirm that. - -Noam ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 05:51:52 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: [AVALON] New Roxy Live Hello All, I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any other details. Talk about a flurry of releases... Chris - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:14:39 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live >From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" >I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at >the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to >feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any >other details. > >Talk about a flurry of releases... i'd say. so, can someone please just go chez bry and ask lucy exactly when we might see a release of 'new' original material by her husband? i'm not too impatient, am i? on the other hand, now i really am getting worried about the original 'stuff' ... when is this possibly going to be released now?! thpppft! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:25:07 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live Won't this be the Concert Classics cd? >>> "Turner, Chris (cturner)" 03/21 1:51 pm >>> Hello All, I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any other details. Talk about a flurry of releases... Chris - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:19:19 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live Chris, This is the same as the 'Concert Classics' release - unless there is another 13-track live Roxy performance at the Rainbow Music Hall, Denver, Colorado Regards, Ivor. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Turner, Chris (cturner) To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 1:51 PM Subject: [AVALON] New Roxy Live > Hello All, > > I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at > the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to > feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any > other details. > > Talk about a flurry of releases... > > Chris > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:33:51 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* Colleen: You are mistaken to suggest the inquiry made to younger list members is anything other than an inquiry. In the academic sense, my probe is not research. Any meaning derived from the numerous responses I have kindly received is strictly personal. Again, I'd like to thank those who indulged my sense of curiosity. Your responses are insightful, and I feel deeply privileged that each of you corresponded with me in earnest. I am enriched, and I feel your opinions and observations can only have a constructive impact on this list. Thank you, and best wishes. KBP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 06:38:48 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] New Roxy Live I wondered this too when I saw the venue, but I guess we'll have to wait for the year of recording and the track listing. I'm not sure the epithet "Best" could be applied to anything on Concert Classics :-) Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Galloway [SMTP:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 2:25 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live > > Won't this be the Concert Classics cd? > > >>> "Turner, Chris (cturner)" 03/21 1:51 pm >>> > Hello All, > > I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at > the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to > feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any > other details. > > Talk about a flurry of releases... > > Chris > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:45:51 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* Mark wrote: "with all due respect, KBP, isn't this a *bit much* to sort of dump onto someone who's just posted to the list _for the very first time_? MHO, of course ..." Ya, you're right! But this much I will say, many of our younger members are wonderful. What they have shown me is too precious for words. In every soul....KBP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:45:46 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] New Roxy Live money old rope yada yada >>> "Turner, Chris (cturner)" 03/21 2:38 pm >>> I wondered this too when I saw the venue, but I guess we'll have to wait for the year of recording and the track listing. I'm not sure the epithet "Best" could be applied to anything on Concert Classics :-) Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Galloway [SMTP:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 2:25 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live > > Won't this be the Concert Classics cd? > > >>> "Turner, Chris (cturner)" 03/21 1:51 pm >>> > Hello All, > > I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at > the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to > feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any > other details. > > Talk about a flurry of releases... > > Chris > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 09:55:44 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* Noam. You are getting sleepy. Very sleepy. Focus. Now, on the count of three, you will become a guinea pig. Focus, you are getting..... Oh No! I've forgotten - what comes after 1! Is it - 2 or 3! Wake up Noam! Wake up! What comes next! All in good spirits, KBP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 07:16:57 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* KB Porter wrote: But this much I will say, many of our younger members are wonderful. What they have shown me is too precious for words. - ---- Precious - are you refering to Monkeyboy's predilection for exposing his genitals to the female listmembers?? Noam ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:35:39 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] Avalon update http://www.avalon.pp.se is updated again with profiles no 70 and 71! Frank Herrebout from Holland (check out his claim to fame!) and Sebastian Fasthube from Austria. /Kicki G, Webmistress - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, KB Porter wrote: > Colleen: > > You are mistaken to suggest the inquiry made to younger list members is > anything other than an inquiry. In the academic sense, my probe is not > research. Any meaning derived from the numerous responses I have kindly Erm, OK, but can we please leave this oft-referenced "probe" out of it? I'm afraid I feel we don't know each other well enough to move to that level yet. Colleen (who can be rather shy) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 10:51:52 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* Where has that perky primate gone to? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:06:50 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferry, stardom and *whatever you want* Dear Colleen (who can be rather shy): Oh you coy, coquettish Colleen. Surely, you jest. KBP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:10:21 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] La Perla >>>Can I be the first to suggest that the new "Pearl" is an improvement on >>>the >>>classic. From the the sublime to the even more sublime. Can I be the last to say that the new Pearl is an improvement then ? My considered observation has been met with widespread disapproval; there's been reports of looting in the Strand, and sun-lounger rage down the Lido. In Gareth's Avalon poll a year ago I recall that Mother Of Pearl was voted favourite RM/BF song of all time, forevermore, forevermore. (My favourita was a three-way tie between Windswept, Both Ends Burning and This Island Earth, but La Perla charted a respectable 7 in my ever-rotating chart.) So newcomers to the list must not be too alarmed by my apparent sacrilege. But the sacred world this lustrous lady inhabits, however cherished, has been revisited by its creator. (And make no mistake, Pearl is Bryan's song ; (if Colleen placed her ivory-handled dillinger to my temple I might even call it the the Ultimate Statement of who Bryan Ferry is.) Okay : Few would disagree that lyrically, this song has been his greatest achievement. (Honourable mentions to Strand, Dreamhome, Editions, Psalm, Virginia Plain, Thrill, Love Me Madly, Tokyo Joe, When She Walks and Manifesto.) In recent times, with the exception of ATGB, he has tended to use his voice as an instrument and the words, however dark or pithy, have melded into the lush soundscape. On the original Stranded Pearl Bryan looks back in languor as he attacked the elegant post-modern pre-campari lyrics with equal wonder and distaste. The vocals are high in the mix lest we miss a single observation. Robert (The Siren) posted recently his take on the juxtaposition of coked-up fifth gear Ferryana (RED) v mellow / downswing / reflective contrite Bryan (BLUE) that is a thread running though his work. Pearl gives real credence to this theory. The wild opening, the seventies party from hell, the music "hi as fi can go", prog-rock guitar solos, the sense of paranoia - "who's that coming 'round the corner....look over your shoulder" -, and the drugs, "take a powder." Discordant yet thrilling. Although I can see why he felt the blue section could stand alone when he revisited the song in the Nineties. Which leads me to explain why I prefer the present reworking of this masterpiece. So much of my present enjoyment of early Roxy springs from a nostalgic yearning for the heady days when their albums bestrode the hit parade. Single, Album, Tour, Single, Album, Tour, Single, Album, Tour ; Not a bad first thirteen months. Then I step back thinking of life's inner meaning and my latest fling with the textured, layered mood pieces of the last decade and a half. Did I overplay that early stuff ? Am I bored of the beginning ? Before you "flame" me ask yourself if you can bear to hear the tired chord progressions on Editions one more time ? How good is Do The Strand without the lyrics ? Isn't the production on the first album thin ? Aren't Eno's "treatments" fantastically overrated ? The gorgeous reworked Pearl has the trademark chugging groove of his nineties solo work, liquid novacaine for the soul, the voice double-tracked (vulnerable/assertive), like a diamond drawn 'cross vulcanite. Hubbard garnishes the dish with his delta licks. The words are there but you've got to look for them. Whereas, for instance, Mamouna (the song) was chopped short just as it was getting interesting this number is allowed to breathe, the beat repeating, the expensive session players taking refuge in pleasure. The crime is its only nine minutes long. In my humble opinion. Martinooooooooh my God what's he saying... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:28:25 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] La Perla It's still bollocks. - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman [mailto:martinstockman@btinternet.com] Sent: 21 March 2000 15:10 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] La Perla >>>Can I be the first to suggest that the new "Pearl" is an improvement on >>>the >>>classic. From the the sublime to the even more sublime. Can I be the last to say that the new Pearl is an improvement then ? My considered observation has been met with widespread disapproval; there's been reports of looting in the Strand, and sun-lounger rage down the Lido. In Gareth's Avalon poll a year ago I recall that Mother Of Pearl was voted favourite RM/BF song of all time, forevermore, forevermore. (My favourita was a three-way tie between Windswept, Both Ends Burning and This Island Earth, but La Perla charted a respectable 7 in my ever-rotating chart.) So newcomers to the list must not be too alarmed by my apparent sacrilege. But the sacred world this lustrous lady inhabits, however cherished, has been revisited by its creator. (And make no mistake, Pearl is Bryan's song ; (if Colleen placed her ivory-handled dillinger to my temple I might even call it the the Ultimate Statement of who Bryan Ferry is.) Okay : Few would disagree that lyrically, this song has been his greatest achievement. (Honourable mentions to Strand, Dreamhome, Editions, Psalm, Virginia Plain, Thrill, Love Me Madly, Tokyo Joe, When She Walks and Manifesto.) In recent times, with the exception of ATGB, he has tended to use his voice as an instrument and the words, however dark or pithy, have melded into the lush soundscape. On the original Stranded Pearl Bryan looks back in languor as he attacked the elegant post-modern pre-campari lyrics with equal wonder and distaste. The vocals are high in the mix lest we miss a single observation. Robert (The Siren) posted recently his take on the juxtaposition of coked-up fifth gear Ferryana (RED) v mellow / downswing / reflective contrite Bryan (BLUE) that is a thread running though his work. Pearl gives real credence to this theory. The wild opening, the seventies party from hell, the music "hi as fi can go", prog-rock guitar solos, the sense of paranoia - "who's that coming 'round the corner....look over your shoulder" -, and the drugs, "take a powder." Discordant yet thrilling. Although I can see why he felt the blue section could stand alone when he revisited the song in the Nineties. Which leads me to explain why I prefer the present reworking of this masterpiece. So much of my present enjoyment of early Roxy springs from a nostalgic yearning for the heady days when their albums bestrode the hit parade. Single, Album, Tour, Single, Album, Tour, Single, Album, Tour ; Not a bad first thirteen months. Then I step back thinking of life's inner meaning and my latest fling with the textured, layered mood pieces of the last decade and a half. Did I overplay that early stuff ? Am I bored of the beginning ? Before you "flame" me ask yourself if you can bear to hear the tired chord progressions on Editions one more time ? How good is Do The Strand without the lyrics ? Isn't the production on the first album thin ? Aren't Eno's "treatments" fantastically overrated ? The gorgeous reworked Pearl has the trademark chugging groove of his nineties solo work, liquid novacaine for the soul, the voice double-tracked (vulnerable/assertive), like a diamond drawn 'cross vulcanite. Hubbard garnishes the dish with his delta licks. The words are there but you've got to look for them. Whereas, for instance, Mamouna (the song) was chopped short just as it was getting interesting this number is allowed to breathe, the beat repeating, the expensive session players taking refuge in pleasure. The crime is its only nine minutes long. In my humble opinion. Martinooooooooh my God what's he saying... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:40:27 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] pearls and swine On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Martin Stockman wrote: [...] > Did I overplay that early stuff ? Am I bored of the beginning ? Before you > "flame" me ask yourself if you can bear to hear the tired chord progressions > on Editions one more time ? How good is Do The Strand without the lyrics ? > Isn't the production on the first album thin ? Aren't Eno's "treatments" > fantastically overrated ? On the contrary, I much prefer the early stuff and I find the Eno "treatments" on _Mamouna_ "fantastically overrated." I'm probably in the minority on that subject, but so be it. > The gorgeous reworked Pearl has the trademark chugging groove of his > nineties solo work, liquid novacaine for the soul, the voice double-tracked > (vulnerable/assertive), like a diamond drawn 'cross vulcanite. Hubbard > garnishes the dish with his delta licks. The words are there but you've got > to look for them. Whereas, for instance, Mamouna (the song) was chopped > short just as it was getting interesting this number is allowed to breathe, > the beat repeating, the expensive session players taking refuge in pleasure. > The crime is its only nine minutes long. I'm with Jocelyn. You can put a pig in a silk dress, but it's still a pig. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:47:49 -0500 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Great PT Thanks for sharing that Gareth, I too think Bonham was the greatest drummer ever, at least in rock music. JP Jones said the 1st time he jammed with JB and Page it was like an explosion. How about that, JB telling PT how much he loved his playing, that's quite a compliment. PT is/was underrated IMO. He off set the sophistication of the group with his primal beats, and the group was never the same since he was let go. I do like the last two albums, but they sound more like a studio project than a band. Jim gareth mc ginley wrote: > Also read an article by Paul Thompson over the weekend in Rhythm Magazine. > It's a one page tribute to Led Zeppelin drummer John Bonham. Paul cites > Bonham as his greatest influence. He first heard a LZ album whilst in an > early band of his called The Influence. The great PT recounts an occasion > in LA, whilst waiting to be picked up for a Roxy soundcheck, when Bonham > approached him and told him how much he admired his playing. Apparentally > his son used to dance around to Virginia Plain. Thompson gets invited to > the LZ studio and flies out to San Diego on the LZ jet to attend a gig the > following day. > > Nicely written article and the best bit has to be when PT writes (something > like) "You can talk technical until the cows come home but John Bonham was > the greatest in my book". Anyway nice to hear from by far the most > underrated Roxy member again. > > Gareth > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:21:52 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Roxy Live - -----Original Message----- From: Turner, Chris (cturner) To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 8:55 AM Subject: [AVALON] New Roxy Live >Hello All, > >I understand that a new Roxy Music live album called Best Live, recorded at >the Rainbow Hall, Denver is to be released in Japan in late May and to >feature 13 tracks and a picture sleeve and lyric insert. I don't have any >other details. > >Talk about a flurry of releases... > Let`s hope it`s pre '79. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:04:53 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] Slave to love Yes, folks, I have the record in my hand...(or at least beside my computer). It is quite a strange thing - it really is meant for the Swedish audience. Apart from Bryan's welcome words on the first page, all the info in the entire CD booklet is in Swedish! This is what Our Man has to say: "Love songs and ballads have always been a big part of my life, that's why we've put together this compilation. Hope you will enjoy listening to these songs as much as I did recording them." And then there's his signature. What a guy. He does love us Swedes... (yes, you are detecting some irony here) Then follows a three page resumé of Ferry's career, written by Petter Eklund. I won't bother to translate this to you, we've all read phrases like these a hundred times or more. On the last page, the credits: This compilation is put together by Pär (that's Par with two dots over the a) Winberg in collaboration with Bryan Ferry and Rhett Davies. Front cover picture: Andrew Catlin. Design: John The Fisherman Mastered by Henrik Daniel Jonsson (definitely a Swede!) at Cutting Room (this is a company in Stockholm that masters and make CD:s - mastering is their main thing). Many thanks to Juliet Mann and Belinda Enthoven at Dene Jesmond Enterprises, Anthea Norman-Taylor and Lin Barkass at Opal-Chant, Jim Lawn, Rhett Davies, Tomas Bäckman (two dots over the first a in Backman...), Petter Eklund and then Rhett Davies again... Copyright: Virgin Records Sweden AB. My guess is that this record is indeed intended for the Swedish audience. I am fairly certain that outside of the UK, Roxy/Ferry has been most successful in Scandinavia. If this record is the last thing he does for Virgin, then I guess that he wanted to do it somewhere where he could count on sales and not losses. Your obidient servant /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:16:04 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] La Perla Martini (or was it Bucks Fizz??) wrote: > >The gorgeous reworked Pearl has the trademark chugging groove of his >nineties solo work, liquid novacaine for the soul, the voice double-tracked >(vulnerable/assertive), like a diamond drawn 'cross vulcanite. Hubbard >garnishes the dish with his delta licks. The words are there but you've got >to look for them. What a load of crap! Ferry is of course entitled to remake and remodel his own songs, but I will never, ever prefer the new Perl over the old. Not even for you, Martin. Can't you see that a work of perfection can't be improved upon??? /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:17:14 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: RE: [AVALON] La Perla >It's still bollocks. Hey Jocelyn, what do you say: Why don't we set up a company together? Or get married??! Love you! /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:18:27 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine Colleen wrote: > >On the contrary, I much prefer the early stuff and I find the Eno >"treatments" on _Mamouna_ "fantastically overrated." I'm probably in the >minority on that subject, but so be it. I'm with you! Perhaps you, I and Jocelyn could form a trio and tour the world? /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 14:27:13 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > I'm with you! > Perhaps you, I and Jocelyn could form a trio and tour the world? But what shall we call ourselves? (no comments from the cheap seats, please) Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:34:36 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine >From: Kicki Gustafsson >I'm with you! >Perhaps you, I and Jocelyn could form a trio and tour the world? wow. can you feel the love? everybody's 'just getting along'! i'm all choked up ... serpentinely yours/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:46:24 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine >On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > >> I'm with you! >> Perhaps you, I and Jocelyn could form a trio and tour the world? > >But what shall we call ourselves? (no comments from the cheap seats, >please) > >Colleen Eh....The Sirens? Mamouna Mermaids? /kicki - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:29:21 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine how about The Fairies? Noam/way up in the nosebleed section >But what shall we call ourselves? (no comments from the cheap seats, >please) > >Colleen Eh....The Sirens? Mamouna Mermaids? /kicki ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine Up in the nosebleed section, Noam shouted: > how about The Fairies? I am kind of liking the idea of The Melancholy Shimmers myself. Colleen (who thinks "Melancholy Shimmer" would make an excellent drag qeen name) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:48:30 EST From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] The Pearl I must have missed an original message. Where does one get the new version of Mother of Pearl? After all the discussion, I have to hear it, although I am sure I will hate it! Helene (who thinks Mamouna is entirely overrated, eno or not) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 12:55:14 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine >From: Noam Bronstein >how about The Fairies? > >Eh....The Sirens? Mamouna Mermaids? what about ferry's filigree fancies? the zarathustra zephyrs? the wildcat whirlwinds? ok, i'm out ... from down in the orchestra pit ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:22:45 +0000 From: thom.wallace@net.ntl.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine Colleen Matan wrote: > I find the Eno "treatments" on _Mamouna_ "fantastically overrated." Surely you can't judge this unless you hear how the tracks sounded prior to Eno being let loose on them. Tom Wallace. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:35:53 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] pearls and swine On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 thom.wallace@net.ntl.com wrote: > Colleen Matan wrote: > > > I find the Eno "treatments" on _Mamouna_ "fantastically overrated." > > Surely you can't judge this unless you hear how the tracks sounded > prior to Eno being let loose on them. I "can't"? Because? After all, I didn't say I liked the songs better _before_ Eno was let loose on them; I said I didn't like the way they sounded _now_. In fact, I might dislike both versions equally (but for different reasons, naturally). Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:36:46 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Pearl On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 Helchat@aol.com wrote: > I must have missed an original message. Where does one get the new version > of Mother of Pearl? After all the discussion, I have to hear it, although I > am sure I will hate it! It's on the soundtrack of a movie--"Ordinary Decent Criminals" I think is the name. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:42:07 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] the high road for those interested in still obtaining a copy of this *video*, i found one at (of _all_ places ...) www.borders.com. just click video and type in "roxy music the high road". there's only one version, btw, though - which is the cheap/non-hi-fi reissue version. on the other hand, it's only something like $13.50 ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:51:26 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jas does Amsterdam > > I would have liked to have seen Bryan in Amsterdam but he played there > in February. A friend, whom I will be saying with sent me a copy of the > review of the concert at the Concertgebouw on Feb. 17. It is from a > newspaper called KUNST ( I hope I got that right). There is a great > color pic of Bryan in mid song. I will try to visit the Concertgebouw > while I am there. > > Any hints on clubs or concerts I should try to visit? The newspaper isn't called KUNST, because that's the Dutch word for ART. It's the artpage or pages of a paper. For concerts of new bands is the best place PARADISO. It's an old church and the place where every new band start their career. Name a band and they've played there. Roxy? No. But the rest, yes. I'm living about 180 km from Amsterdam, but I don't know how you travel. anyway your welcome. I sent you my address off list. And for Heather: Brel isn't Dutch but he's from Belgium. Enjoy your stay in Amsterdam, Jas. Cheers Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:38:23 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] La Perla Martin stirs it up with these words: >So much of my present enjoyment of early Roxy springs from a > nostalgic yearning for the heady days when their albums bestrode the hit > parade. Single, Album, Tour, Single, Album, Tour, Single, Album, Tour ; Not > a bad first thirteen months. Then I step back thinking of life's inner > meaning and my latest fling with the textured, layered mood pieces of the > last decade and a half. > > Did I overplay that early stuff ? Am I bored of the beginning ? Before you > "flame" me ask yourself if you can bear to hear the tired chord progressions > on Editions one more time ? How good is Do The Strand without the lyrics ? > Isn't the production on the first album thin ? Aren't Eno's "treatments" > fantastically overrated ? Hmmm, if you're seriously suffering early Roxy burnout (and I suspect the imp of the perverse is at work here !), then you just need to sit down properly and listen the way you USED to do. Completely, absorbedly, without distractions (and without falling asleep after a hard day at the nine-to-five). Put on 'For Your Pleasure'. Good and loud. Listen to the pin sharp production (and remember this is 1973, for goodness' sake !). Listen again to John Porter's dark chocolate basslines, Paul's pounding on-the-beat snare, Andy's searing hard-blown saxophone and haunting oboe lines, Phil's subtle flecks and touches of guitar and full-on driving solos, Eno's sonic twists and turns. Above all that, listen to the sound of a voice of real emotion and bite, miked so closely you could swear he was in the room with you, a voice whose owner understands phrasing and timbre and uses it to stunning effect. You will never get closer to Bryan Ferry's voice than this. Revel once more in all the little touches - that hint of feedback just before 'mashed potato schmaltz', the bass glissando at the fade of 'Editions Of You', the wild horses and dark choir at the end of 'For Your Pleasure', the way the reverb shimmers at the end of 'Do The Strand', the drop-dead black holes of silence in 'Beauty Queen'. Now go back and listen to all of the first four albums the same way. Listen to the sound of a band who are still ahead of their time. Tchah ! He who is bored of Roxy is bored of life... Regards, Ivor. n.p. what else ? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #118 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest