From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #109 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, March 16 2000 Volume 05 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] RE : Of Sirens and compilations ["Johnny Reece" ] Re: [AVALON] In Dublin's fair city where... ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] UK Dates [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Support bands ["Janice O'Shea" ] Re: [AVALON] Re-establishing a brand name. ["Tim Kendrick" ] RE: [AVALON] UK Dates [Jocelyn Fiske ] RE: [AVALON] West Side/ East Side ["Ujvary, Richard A." ] [AVALON] Re; Jazz greats [MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty)] [AVALON] UK Dates [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Support bands ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] More Goth talk [Heather Marie Buch ] RE: [AVALON] Support bands [Jocelyn Fiske ] RE: [AVALON] UK Dates [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] More Goth talk [AMeyersLD@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] jerry & ferry -Reply ["mark shanahan" ] RE: [AVALON] UK Dates [S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk] RE: [AVALON] UK Dates ["SHEARER, Andrew" ] RE: [AVALON] Support bands ["SHEARER, Andrew" ] RE: [AVALON] UK Dates [Jocelyn Fiske ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:07:08 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] RE : Of Sirens and compilations Support Bands : Nice memories of late 73 tour, Steve (aesyston). You reminded me of the support - some unknown guy strolls on in a Clown suit - and everybody thinks... "eh" ? Later on of course - his first hit, and then everyone knew Leo Sayer - but it was bizarre at the time. Actually - his first album 'Silverbird' is a fine piece of work. He eventually dived into AORdom, of course. I enjoyed Sharks & Lloyd Watson previously (whatever happened to Lloyd ?) and Jess Roden in 74 was OK. Must admit, couldn't stand Londonbeat, and as for Martha & The Muffins - that was really bad. Tourists were good. Did anyone else see Scarlet with Bry on the 2nd part of Mamouna tour ? Pretty good, though they'll always go down as 'one hit and goodbye' types. Someone called Leena Conquest was on the 1st part of that tour - a real no-no, that one I thought. I loved the Mikas so much though that I paid a pretty penny in recent times for remastered CDs of their first 3 albums, getting them sent from Japan. Wonderful. By the way - rather off-topic, this - a few here have mentioned the totally superb, and sadly missed, Alex Harvey in recent times. Good article on him in Mojo this month... Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:52:06 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: [AVALON] Support bands "Support bands" was another topic we covered in Paris with Reecey and I finding a mutual love for the Sadistics ( you take what you want out of a name.) This was during a period when I tried to cover pretty much every date on the British tour so I got to know the set inside out. There were few others I bothered with beyond 2 dates, but Annie Lennox's swinging pony-tail and a blitzed out Dave Stewart were always good for a laugh. Sharks were another of my faves (mainly because of Spedding). In 1984 I commissioned a certain Mr Snips to write some music for a commercial I was making (in the style of Scritti Politti was the brief). Boy was he amazed when I reminded him of his previous incarnation as a Roxy support. Unfortunately, little of his memory of that time remained (I wonder why??)so no inside touring info I'm afraid. Does anyone remember Illusion as support (was it them that did I'm in love with a German Film Star - I've forgotten). Talking of supports, who's the worst band you've ever had to sit through to get to the band you wanted to see, or conversely who did you have to buy a ticket for in order to see the support band. Just to start you off, I had to waste top dollar on The Police (whom I wouldn't go and see ordinarily if you paid me) at The Lyceum on The Strand (there goes that connection again) to see The Cramps. And I took to the bar to avoid James Brown's support at The Hammersmith Odeon - a very early incarnation of Simply Red. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Reece [mailto:johnny.reece@virgin.net] Sent: 16 March 2000 09:07 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] RE : Of Sirens and compilations Support Bands : Nice memories of late 73 tour, Steve (aesyston). You reminded me of the support - some unknown guy strolls on in a Clown suit - and everybody thinks... "eh" ? Later on of course - his first hit, and then everyone knew Leo Sayer - I loved the Mikas so much though that I paid a pretty penny in recent times for remastered CDs of their first 3 albums, getting them sent from Japan. Wonderful Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:55:05 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Dublin's fair city where... >From: Colleen Matan > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Martin Stockman wrote: > >> Hi Gareth >> >> Joanne's best friend Oonagh is going and you may care to share a pint with >> her. Her charms may become more apparent after the second. > > Since this was a public message, I am sure a few of the women are now > wondering how many pints Joanne told her best friend it would take before > Gareth's charms "may became more apparent." > > What's sauce for the gander, &tc. ... > > Signed, > Gloria Steinam Thank you Gloria. How shaming my intended off-list banter looks in the cold light of an Avalon dawn. To answer your question I'd say a half of shandy. Whist Gareth is undoubtedly a handsome rover in my experience he is seldom anything but sober. Now Oonagh .... lets start by saying that she does European PR for Southern Comfort and Jack Daniels, she's had a date with the little lead singer of Boyzone and wouldn't look out of place in the Corrs. I sincerely hope she has Gareth's pale fountain fizzing forth pink gin by the end of the evening. My days are numbered Martini - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:16:08 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] jerry & ferry -Reply - ---------- >From: "Curea, Victoria" > Bryan married a LADY. Not a horse! Lucy is certainly a clothes-horse. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:02:27 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] In Dublin's fair city where... - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman [mailto:martinstockman@btinternet.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 09:55 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Dublin's fair city where... > she's had a date with the little lead singer of Boyzone what the gay one? Or the one that looks like Alan Shearer? My days are numbered Never a truer word - let's see you smooth talk your match-making way out of this one fop! Martini - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:30:22 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-establishing a brand name. - ---------- >From: Colleen Matan > And is this really going to > work anywhere but in the UK? (which would explain the monthly trips to > London)? ... and how would you explain your daily trips to your home ? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:53:19 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Support bands - -----Original Message----- From: Jocelyn Fiske To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 5:56 AM Subject: [AVALON] Support bands >Talking of supports, who's the worst band you've ever had to sit through to >get to the band you wanted to see, or conversely who did you have to buy a >ticket for in order to see the support band. The one that immediately comes to mind was a '76 concert of Aerosmith and Nazareth, two big time favorites at the time. Then another act was added at the last minuet..... K.C. and the Sunshine Band??!! Sheesh! This wasn`t exactly a "shake your booty" crowd if you know what I mean and I wouldn`t be surprised if K.C. and the band are still receiving therapy for that horrible experience. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:59:37 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] UK Dates I've got tickets for Dublin and RAH Who else is going???? J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:12:55 -0500 From: "Janice O'Shea" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Support bands Jocelyn Fiske wrote: We were "treated" to two, Nash the Slash and Alan Vega, opening for Echo and the Bunnymen. Dreadful! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:38:57 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-establishing a brand name. - --. I agree that there's something chillingly 'corporate' about this. And I cannot see it achieving its presumed aim anyway. It was a joke in the " Ultimate Collection " era that Ferry could onl;y get hits with his old records - a remix of Let's Stick Together being a fair-size hit while his new material went unnoticed. There is also the irony-upon-irony that Ferry, like all pop artists, drew on imagery and ideas from commercials, which are a part of the 'popular culture.' ( You're never alone with a Strand.') He used them ironically of course. But now he is being packaged as a corporate 'brand name.' And without any irony at all, ironically. Tim Kendrick "Re-establishing a brand name?" >Is this really what his new management is doing? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 07:43:35 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Dublin's fair city where... Martin, this is the most obscene image I have ever encountered! You clever thing. Tim Kendrick >I sincerely hope she has Gareth's pale fountain fizzing forth pink gin by >the end of the evening. > > > >Martini > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:33:56 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK Dates Me! Me! Me! RAH >>> 03/16 11:59 am >>> I've got tickets for Dublin and RAH Who else is going???? J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:43:13 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates Only RAH for me you bastard! Oh and Petworth, now the tickets have arrived. Who else has got theirs? - -----Original Message----- From: Simon Galloway [mailto:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 12:34 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK Dates Me! Me! Me! RAH >>> 03/16 11:59 am >>> I've got tickets for Dublin and RAH Who else is going???? J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:23:30 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: RE: [AVALON] West Side/ East Side Definitely ...Around the time Roxy started you could see that musically the English were interested in America and Americans looked to the UK. I always thought though that the reason Roxy and Ferry et al didn't take off here was that their image lent itself to a pretentiousness that we didn't get. Whatever 'culture" they were perceived to be hawking just wouldn't jibe. That's why you had guys like Grand Funk Railroad belting out "WE'RE AN AMERICAN BAND!!!..WE COME INTO YOUR TOWN!!....etc. With lines like that the bucks just flowed in to Grand Funk. But now look who's still around........ Rich - -----Original Message----- From: gareth mc ginley [mailto:ginley71@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 6:19 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] West Side/ East Side America probably had a greater influence on his music than any other land and he definitely wouldn't be the artist that he is without it. Best wishes, Gareth ______________________________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:35:30 -0000 From: "SHEARER, Andrew" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Wasn't it the Passions that did "I'm in Love With a German Film Star"? I think I read somewhere that BF did some recording with them too - but I could be wrong on that. Andrew - -----Original Message----- From: Jocelyn Fiske [mailto:Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 10:52 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: [AVALON] Support bands "Support bands" was another topic we covered in Paris with Reecey and I finding a mutual love for the Sadistics ( you take what you want out of a name.) This was during a period when I tried to cover pretty much every date on the British tour so I got to know the set inside out. There were few others I bothered with beyond 2 dates, but Annie Lennox's swinging pony-tail and a blitzed out Dave Stewart were always good for a laugh. Sharks were another of my faves (mainly because of Spedding). In 1984 I commissioned a certain Mr Snips to write some music for a commercial I was making (in the style of Scritti Politti was the brief). Boy was he amazed when I reminded him of his previous incarnation as a Roxy support. Unfortunately, little of his memory of that time remained (I wonder why??)so no inside touring info I'm afraid. Does anyone remember Illusion as support (was it them that did I'm in love with a German Film Star - I've forgotten). Talking of supports, who's the worst band you've ever had to sit through to get to the band you wanted to see, or conversely who did you have to buy a ticket for in order to see the support band. Just to start you off, I had to waste top dollar on The Police (whom I wouldn't go and see ordinarily if you paid me) at The Lyceum on The Strand (there goes that connection again) to see The Cramps. And I took to the bar to avoid James Brown's support at The Hammersmith Odeon - a very early incarnation of Simply Red. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Reece [mailto:johnny.reece@virgin.net] Sent: 16 March 2000 09:07 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] RE : Of Sirens and compilations Support Bands : Nice memories of late 73 tour, Steve (aesyston). You reminded me of the support - some unknown guy strolls on in a Clown suit - and everybody thinks... "eh" ? Later on of course - his first hit, and then everyone knew Leo Sayer - I loved the Mikas so much though that I paid a pretty penny in recent times for remastered CDs of their first 3 albums, getting them sent from Japan. Wonderful Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:25:40 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Re; Jazz greats Just saw a flick, (a oscar nominee) for Sean Penn & Smanantha Morton. "Sweet & Lowdown". About the 1930 jazz guitarist "Emmet Ray" He did "I'll see you in my dreams",I'm forever blowing bubbles. "Dancing in the Dark". Ray , was second , only to the great" Django Reinhadt" . A good film , worth the money, if you like jazz guitarist. Marlana K..... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:34:35 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] UK Dates So far we have a small Posse of names for the UK dates Portsmouth. 10th April ???????? Royal Albert Hall 11th April Martin Stockman Joclyn Fiske John O'Brien + 1 Simon Galloway Johnny Reece Dublin 29th April Gareth McGinley John O'Brien + 1 Petworth House 23rd June ????? Any more ???????? Add your name please so we can organise pre/post gig refreshments. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:36:34 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Support bands Jocelyn Fiske is looking for support when she asks: > Does anyone remember Illusion as support (was it them that did I'm in love > with a German Film Star - I've forgotten). Illusion was the name adopted by the original members of Renaissance (Keith Relf, Jane Relf, Jim McCarty, Louis Cennamo and John Hawken) when they decided to play again as a band in 1976 (naming themselves after the second Renaissance album). Then Keith Relf died (from electrocution) in his flat in May that year. The band went on to recruit two more members and released an album 'Out Of The Mist' in 1977, supported Bryan on tour in the UK and Europe and cut one more album 'Illusion' in 1978 by which time they were completely unfashionable and were finally dropped by Island in 1979. Both albums of gentle, vaguely folky, 60s sounding rock are out on a 'twofer' on the Edsel label. Ironically Renaissance MkII were doing great business in 1978, producing TV music and charting with 'Northern Lights'. Ah, the fickle finger of fate... I don't know of a song by them called 'I'm In Love With A German Film Star' (and would suggest it is an unlikely title for them too !). However, my trusty Guinness Book of Hit Singles says that a song of this name was released by The Passions in 1981 (altogether more likely). Regards, Ivor. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:47:35 -0500 (EST) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Goth talk On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 jas2347@xsite.net wrote: I have to agree with Jas here. I bet if we took a survey, there's not one person on this list who hasn't done a regrettable thing in their past. Besides, now she has 4 kids to raise on her own, and I can't hate someone in that situation. I wish her the very best and hope she meets a man who will love her. I also agree about the E program. Now we have heard "two sides" of a story from books and TV, but do any of us have any *real* evidence? But even if we did, who cares? It's history. Jas - have a great time in Amsterdam. Be sure to listen to Jacques Brel. Heather > > Now as for Jerri Hall: > Remember after Bryan's concert in November, you and I and Doug got into > that little chat about her? You both said she was a bitch and I stated > that yes she was one at the time, BUT I took pity on her. She was > bitten my a "snake" and the venom just took hold of her. It took 21 > years before the venom wore off. By that time she discovered she that > she TOO was at the End Of The Line....... and the snake had rattled his > tail and bit, yet another "siren". > > Andrew: Hope you have healed long enough to hear Siren now. It's a great > set of songs that are superbly crafted and performed. IMHO,Country Life > and Siren where a one-two punch with Roxy at his best. > > That E program has been run umpteenth times. It was only worth it to > see pics of Bryan and Jeri together. You don't really think they were > going to give you the real story do you. Bryan, Jeri nor the "snake" > were never interviewed for the story. Now that would have been a > program. > > Jas > Will be in Amsterdam next week! First time ever! > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > http://www.mit.edu/~hmbuch/ Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:49:27 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Of course! You're right on all counts and if I'm not mistaken The Passions also supported Roxy and hence my mix-up. Are you showing at the RAH by the way Andrew? - -----Original Message----- From: SHEARER, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.SHEARER@sema.co.uk] Sent: 16 March 2000 13:36 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Wasn't it the Passions that did "I'm in Love With a German Film Star"? I think I read somewhere that BF did some recording with them too - but I could be wrong on that. Andrew - -----Original Message----- From: Jocelyn Fiske [mailto:Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 10:52 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: [AVALON] Support bands "Support bands" was another topic we covered in Paris with Reecey and I finding a mutual love for the Sadistics ( you take what you want out of a name.) This was during a period when I tried to cover pretty much every date on the British tour so I got to know the set inside out. There were few others I bothered with beyond 2 dates, but Annie Lennox's swinging pony-tail and a blitzed out Dave Stewart were always good for a laugh. Sharks were another of my faves (mainly because of Spedding). In 1984 I commissioned a certain Mr Snips to write some music for a commercial I was making (in the style of Scritti Politti was the brief). Boy was he amazed when I reminded him of his previous incarnation as a Roxy support. Unfortunately, little of his memory of that time remained (I wonder why??)so no inside touring info I'm afraid. Does anyone remember Illusion as support (was it them that did I'm in love with a German Film Star - I've forgotten). Talking of supports, who's the worst band you've ever had to sit through to get to the band you wanted to see, or conversely who did you have to buy a ticket for in order to see the support band. Just to start you off, I had to waste top dollar on The Police (whom I wouldn't go and see ordinarily if you paid me) at The Lyceum on The Strand (there goes that connection again) to see The Cramps. And I took to the bar to avoid James Brown's support at The Hammersmith Odeon - a very early incarnation of Simply Red. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Reece [mailto:johnny.reece@virgin.net] Sent: 16 March 2000 09:07 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] RE : Of Sirens and compilations Support Bands : Nice memories of late 73 tour, Steve (aesyston). You reminded me of the support - some unknown guy strolls on in a Clown suit - and everybody thinks... "eh" ? Later on of course - his first hit, and then everyone knew Leo Sayer - I loved the Mikas so much though that I paid a pretty penny in recent times for remastered CDs of their first 3 albums, getting them sent from Japan. Wonderful Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:55:05 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates - -----Original Message----- From: JObinv01@aol.com [mailto:JObinv01@aol.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 14:35 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] UK Dates So far we have a small Posse of names for the UK dates Portsmouth. 10th April ???????? Royal Albert Hall 11th April Martin Stockman Jocelyn Fiske + 2 John O'Brien + 1 Simon Galloway Johnny Reece Dublin 29th April Gareth McGinley John O'Brien + 1 Petworth House 23rd June Richard Swift Jocelyn Fiske + 2 Any more ???????? Add your name please so we can organise pre/post gig refreshments. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:53:42 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Goth talk In a message dated 3/16/00 12:39:37 AM, jas2347@xsite.net writes: << Jas: (excuse the off-topic post) I'm SO jealous you went to the Peter Murphy show! I was dying to go, but alas, I could not find a date! Kim, Kim, Kim........... As I have said before, never let the fact that you like an artist and your friends do not stop you from going to see the artist. >> Kim: As the other Chicagoan on the list, I offer my services. IF your freinds don't like the band you want to see, IF Jas is not available, e-mail me. I have sat next to Jas at a show (Bryan, in November at the Riv, actually...) and he is exellent company. I like to think I am as well.... but you know Jas and I share your taste in music to a certain extent. So call either of us next time. Besides, I know the coolest resteraunts near all the major Chicago venues..... Andrew In Evanston - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:53:45 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] jerry & ferry -Reply >From: Colleen Matan >On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, gareth mc ginley wrote: > >[invasive, insensitive rumor snipped] >This tasteless rumor has been floating around for a long time, and from >what I understand, has most recently surfaced in an unauthorized biography >of Mick Jagger. I have been happy to NEVER see it on Avalon. Until today. > >The thought of people speculating, in public, over something which is >merely a hurtful rumor, but which if true is quite intensely personal and >tragic, makes me heartsick. > >Please, out of respect for these people whom none of us know on such an >intimate level, let's not continue this one part of this thread. for my part, i never meant for my comments re: ferry & hall to snowball to this particular, extremely sorry point. i agree and find that it has no place on this list - IMO. i was simply interested in the truth re: their breakup, since *that* has been talked about at length - at different points on this list before. _and_ both since there are varying stories - w/varying degrees of veracity, AND that it seemed to have such a huge impact on ferry, etc., etc. now, i feel like i need to take a shower. for me personally, i don't think i'm going to bother with this again; i can live and die w/out knowing just exactly what happened, etc., etc. sorry to have gotten into this tabloid nightmare. peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 09:58:22 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Support bands In a message dated 3/16/00 4:53:46 AM, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: << Talking of supports, who's the worst band you've ever had to sit through to get to the band you wanted to see, >> Conquerer Worm, opening for Roxy at the Chicago Auditorium in 1975. A local DJ (the amazing Terri Hemmert) compared them to a bad collaboration between Stockhausen and Little Feat. Andrew in Evanston - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:00:02 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Oooh Ivor you keeper of all knowledge you! Thanks for that. Keith Relf? The Keith Relf who used to be the lead singer of the Yardbirds? Blimey, dangerous business playing live on stage - Alex Harvey's brother (of Stone the Crows) went the same way. - -----Original Message----- From: Ivor Canning [mailto:ivor.canning@cwcom.net] Sent: 16 March 2000 14:37 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Support bands Jocelyn Fiske is looking for support when she asks: > Does anyone remember Illusion as support (was it them that did I'm in love > with a German Film Star - I've forgotten). Illusion was the name adopted by the original members of Renaissance (Keith Relf, Jane Relf, Jim McCarty, Louis Cennamo and John Hawken) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:59:23 -0000 From: S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates > -----Original Message----- > From: JObinv01@aol.com [SMTP:JObinv01@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 2:35 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] UK Dates > > So far we have a small Posse of names for the UK dates > > Portsmouth. > 10th April > > ???????? > > Royal Albert Hall > 11th April > > Martin Stockman > Joclyn Fiske > John O'Brien + 1 > Simon Galloway > Johnny Reece > > Dublin > 29th April > > Gareth McGinley > John O'Brien + 1 > > > Petworth House > 23rd June > steve batie + 5 > Any more ???????? Add your name please so we can organise pre/post gig > refreshments. > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:09:14 -0000 From: "SHEARER, Andrew" Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates - -----Original Message----- From: Jocelyn Fiske [mailto:Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 14:55 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates - -----Original Message----- From: JObinv01@aol.com [mailto:JObinv01@aol.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 14:35 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] UK Dates So far we have a small Posse of names for the UK dates Portsmouth. 10th April ???????? Royal Albert Hall 11th April Martin Stockman Jocelyn Fiske + 2 John O'Brien + 1 Simon Galloway Johnny Reece Andrew Shearer Dublin 29th April Gareth McGinley John O'Brien + 1 Petworth House 23rd June Richard Swift Jocelyn Fiske + 2 Andrew Shearer +1 Any more ???????? Add your name please so we can organise pre/post gig refreshments. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:09:04 -0000 From: "SHEARER, Andrew" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Was I right about BF doing some recording with them? Maybe that'd be quite interesting if it reached the box set! I was just about to add my name to the list! (BTW I'm a big fan of Siren too!) - -----Original Message----- From: Jocelyn Fiske [mailto:Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 14:49 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Of course! You're right on all counts and if I'm not mistaken The Passions also supported Roxy and hence my mix-up. Are you showing at the RAH by the way Andrew? - -----Original Message----- From: SHEARER, Andrew [mailto:Andrew.SHEARER@sema.co.uk] Sent: 16 March 2000 13:36 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [AVALON] Support bands Wasn't it the Passions that did "I'm in Love With a German Film Star"? I think I read somewhere that BF did some recording with them too - but I could be wrong on that. Andrew - -----Original Message----- From: Jocelyn Fiske [mailto:Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com] Sent: 16 March 2000 10:52 To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: [AVALON] Support bands "Support bands" was another topic we covered in Paris with Reecey and I finding a mutual love for the Sadistics ( you take what you want out of a name.) This was during a period when I tried to cover pretty much every date on the British tour so I got to know the set inside out. There were few others I bothered with beyond 2 dates, but Annie Lennox's swinging pony-tail and a blitzed out Dave Stewart were always good for a laugh. Sharks were another of my faves (mainly because of Spedding). In 1984 I commissioned a certain Mr Snips to write some music for a commercial I was making (in the style of Scritti Politti was the brief). Boy was he amazed when I reminded him of his previous incarnation as a Roxy support. Unfortunately, little of his memory of that time remained (I wonder why??)so no inside touring info I'm afraid. Does anyone remember Illusion as support (was it them that did I'm in love with a German Film Star - I've forgotten). Talking of supports, who's the worst band you've ever had to sit through to get to the band you wanted to see, or conversely who did you have to buy a ticket for in order to see the support band. Just to start you off, I had to waste top dollar on The Police (whom I wouldn't go and see ordinarily if you paid me) at The Lyceum on The Strand (there goes that connection again) to see The Cramps. And I took to the bar to avoid James Brown's support at The Hammersmith Odeon - a very early incarnation of Simply Red. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Reece [mailto:johnny.reece@virgin.net] Sent: 16 March 2000 09:07 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] RE : Of Sirens and compilations Support Bands : Nice memories of late 73 tour, Steve (aesyston). You reminded me of the support - some unknown guy strolls on in a Clown suit - and everybody thinks... "eh" ? Later on of course - his first hit, and then everyone knew Leo Sayer - I loved the Mikas so much though that I paid a pretty penny in recent times for remastered CDs of their first 3 albums, getting them sent from Japan. Wonderful Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. 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If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:11:42 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates Are you bringing the entire Batie family? - -----Original Message----- From: S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk [mailto:S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk] Sent: 16 March 2000 14:59 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] UK Dates > -----Original Message----- > From: JObinv01@aol.com [SMTP:JObinv01@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 2:35 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] UK Dates > > So far we have a small Posse of names for the UK dates > > Portsmouth. > 10th April > > ???????? > > Royal Albert Hall > 11th April > > Martin Stockman > Joclyn Fiske > John O'Brien + 1 > Simon Galloway > Johnny Reece > > Dublin > 29th April > > Gareth McGinley > John O'Brien + 1 > > > Petworth House > 23rd June > steve batie + 5 > Any more ???????? 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