From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #104 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, March 14 2000 Volume 05 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Le Grand Rex, 9 Mar 2000. [Lynn Hoskins ] Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail [Kicki Gustafsson ] [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail [Heather Marie Buch ] Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) [Heather Marie Buch ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! [jspellma ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Slave to love ["Richard Swift" ] [AVALON] Key Mail Order ["Richard Swift" ] RE: [AVALON] Key Mail Order ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] Slave To Love Tracks ["tfagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! ["tfagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in Paris - A Review (Part 1) [Noam Bronstein ] Re: [AVALON] Slave To Love Tracks ["Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Le Grand Rex, 9 Mar 2000. Did anyone happen to jot down a set list? I sure would love to see it. And, maybe I missed it, but what was Bryan wearing (down to his shoes!) Also, as I'm new to the list I am not familiar with the names/instruments of everyone in his current band. More show hilites, please. Merci. Lynn - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:34:56 -0800 From: Lynn Hoskins Subject: Re: [AVALON] day for night mark shanahan wrote: >i was wondering about the origin of 'day for night', then, off 'bete >noire', as related to this film. i would say it doesn't seem so, based >on the lyrics here (and if you've seen the film): I'm sorry, maybe I missed something but I don't get the connection at all. How does the Truffaut film related to Bryan's "Bete Noire" album? "Bete Noire" doesn't mean "Day For Night." What would the possible link be? (Whenever I hear the name "Bete Noire" I think of the terrific Fingerprintz album "Beat Noir" first, and Bryan's album second. Sorry, Bryan.) Signed, Confused P.S. I rather like "Day For Night" and don't think it's contrived at all. Sorry! I saved a feature story about Truffaut from years ago in which he states his favorite thing about the movies: "The most beautiful thing I have seen in a movie theater is to go down to the front, and turn around, and look at all the uplifted faces, the light from the screen reflected upon them." Truffaut loved movies much the way Ed Wood did, and for me that depth of appreciation is at the core of "Day For Night." - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:46:11 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail In a message dated 00-03-14 13:22:46 EST, you write: << Or how about "Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry A-Z" A valon B oth ends burning C ould it happen to me? D ance away E ditions of you F or Your Pleasure G rey Lagoons H elp me make it through the night >> Etc. Too much time on your hands, Kicki. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:50:59 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail >In a message dated 00-03-14 13:22:46 EST, you write: > ><< Or how about "Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry A-Z" > > A valon > B oth ends burning > C ould it happen to me? > D ance away > E ditions of you > F or Your Pleasure > G rey Lagoons > H elp me make it through the night >> >Etc. > >Too much time on your hands, Kicki. > >Arnie Yeah, like 5 minutes! /Kicki - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 16:51:09 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) I'm always nervous talking about _Siren_ because (that is if I'm remembering correctly) it was the catalyst for the worst flame war ever on this list. I think it's best that the details are not dredged up--for as Dante says "che nel pensier rinova la paura" ("even to think of it renews the fear")--but suffice it to say that if you remember it, you are indeed an old-timer. On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Gregory A. Koetting wrote: [...] > I have always felt in a small minority in feeling that "Siren" was Roxy's > finest effort, and yet through all these years I've felt that the album must > have been a minor release since they didn't bother to include any liner > notes (EVER!) in any release (album, cassette, or cd, import or domestic!). and On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 AESYSTON@aol.com wrote: > at last someone who loves siren! just another high is the great lost roxy > song sing along with the lights down can YOU hold back the tears? (alright i > know it,s just me) "maybe your heart is aching........ Actually, I think there are a number of us here who love _Siren_ (although I can't remember out how came out on the list poll last year). I went through a phase a long time ago where _Avalon_ was my favorite album. Then, one day _Siren_ returned to the rotation and I was floored. Was this the same album I bought years ago? (Actually, it probably had more to do with my being older than anything else.) I never really liked the albums which followed _Siren_ (I don't even own _Manifesto_), with the exception of _Avalon_ (which, also, in a way I'd say is not exactly a Roxy album either). And I really liked parts of the albums which preceded it. Except there'd be songs which just seemed to lose the thread. _Siren_ was the exception. The songs sounded like they fit together--like they belonged together just as is. There has been lots of talk on this list over the last 2 years or so about Ferry's image over all, and lately people have taken to calling him the "Cool Ruler" , and it's obvious to most of you, I should think, that I couldn't disagree more. To me, Mr. Ferry is not just a guy who wears nice clothes (the present cap and scarf combo not included) and croons about life from an ironic distance. However, neither is he some sort of social misfit, painfully shy, horribly cerebral, and unable to partake in normal social and professional interactions. I mean, if it's important to you to believe those things, I affirm your choice. But I think there's something much deeper and much, much richer going on--at least in the first 5 albums, and in the first few solo albums, before the air-brushing takes over (although that deepness is certainly still there). But it never quite again reaches the rawness, and the immediateness, and the flatout "realness" it did in _Siren_. There are so many things I love about this album--here's just one: The beginning of "Sentimental Fool" when he sings surely you cannot be leading me on? and it just floats there for a second. Also, the kindness of a list member allowed me to hear the remastered _Siren_, and it was really amazing to hear how better and how wonderful it sounds. It's like a whole new favorite album. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:55:49 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] day for night >From: Lynn Hoskins >>i was wondering about the origin of 'day for night', then, off 'bete >>noire', as related to this film. >I'm sorry, maybe I missed something but I don't get the connection at all. >How does the Truffaut film related to Bryan's "Bete Noire" >album? "Bete Noire" doesn't mean "Day For Night." What would the >possible link be? maybe i didn't articulate too well; 'day for night' the song -- off of 'bete noire'. i realize that 'bete noire' doesn't translate to 'day for night'. i thought i listed links to both the film and the lyrics to 'day ...'. at any rate, i was posing the question since at least a few from this list find some ferry/roxy songs to be *film-related*, either directly or indirectly. >P.S. I rather like "Day For Night" and don't think it's contrived at >all. Sorry! I saved a feature story about Truffaut from years ago >in which he states his favorite thing about the movies: "The most >beautiful thing I have seen in a movie theater is to go down to the >front, and turn around, and look at all the uplifted faces, the light from >the screen reflected upon them." Truffaut loved movies much the way Ed >Wood did, and for me that depth of appreciation is at the core of "Day For >Night." that's a cool quote, lynn! but, while i deeply respect that 'depth of appreciation', i just felt that it didn't translate onto the screen - for that particular film. not exactly 'jules et jim', nor 'the 400 blows', etc. it wasn't horrible, by any stretch ... just not all that memorable - for me ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:03:34 -0500 (EST) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blood on a nail That could be a kids CD! It could also include "Bryan Ferry sings the alphabet song with Barney." Oh, I wish he'd do it! Heather On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > Or how about "Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry A-Z" > > A valon > B oth ends burning > C ould it happen to me? > D ance away > E ditions of you > F or Your Pleasure > G rey Lagoons > H elp me make it through the night > I n your mind > J ust like you > K an't let go > L ove is the drug > M other of pearl > N ew town > O ver you > P salm > Q ueen, Beauty > R ight stuff > S unset > T o turn you on > U do something to me > W indswept > X - the new, previously unheard of track > Y our painted smile > Z amba > > > /Kicki G > > ------------------------ > Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 > http://www.op.se > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > http://www.mit.edu/~hmbuch/ Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 23:06:49 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) La Colleena wrote: > But I >think there's something much deeper and much, much richer going on--at >least in the first 5 albums, and in the first few solo albums, before the >air-brushing takes over (although that deepness is certainly still there). My goodness. I so totally agree! /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:14:41 EST From: AESYSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) i know that siren isn't as daring as "roxy" or "pleasure" or as hard as stranded or country life but istill feel it's roxy's finest i can think of no good musical evidence to support this and the lyrics are simple ,but it moves this guy every time. ferry's call and responce during "sentimentel fool" i'd do all again just to relive one minute. i would die a happy man if he were to sing just another high at the albert hall . - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:15:59 -0800 From: Lynn Hoskins Subject: Re: [AVALON] day for night mark shanahan wrote: >i thought i listed links to both the film and the lyrics to 'day ...'. Ah, well I think what confused me is that I went to the link and saw the lyrics to "Limbo." Yes, apparently you have to spell things out for some of us. ;) I think that the SONG "Day For Night" support the meaning of the album title, in that it appears to be about a women he fears (because she has hurt him) and now avoids. I think a lot of songs (and band names) have been inspired by films, so one never knows what was going through Brian's mind when he wrote "Day For Night." Lynn P.S. I like Matthew Sweet's "Day For Night" as well. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:01:26 -0500 (EST) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) It's my favorite album too. "Sentimental Fool" runs a close tie with "If There Is Something" for my favorite Roxy song. Though, I was listening to "A Really Good Time" today and found that I like that song a *lot*. There's something about the complexity of the characters he describes. The girl with a lot of education and not much common sense, and the girl who doesn't have much money, but has what it takes to get by. And she doesn't go out much, but when she does then you'll know. I love those descriptions. They sound like different women I've known, or maybe even different aspects of the same woman (or person). Heather On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 AESYSTON@aol.com wrote: > i know that siren isn't as daring as "roxy" or "pleasure" or as hard as > stranded or country life but istill feel it's roxy's finest i can think of no > good musical evidence to support this and the lyrics are simple ,but it moves > this guy every time. ferry's call and responce during "sentimentel fool" i'd > do all again just to relive one minute. i would die a happy man if he were to > sing just another high at the albert hall . > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > http://www.mit.edu/~hmbuch/ Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:59:45 GMT From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to love Thanks for the track list of Slave To Love Kicki, Slave To Love is my favourite song anyway, but it's great to see 'He'll have to go' and 'Your Painted Smile' on there. I know it's another 'best of' release, but it looks good to me. Does anyone else like the look of it? Does anyone know if music stores in the UK will be able to import it? Tracy. >Here are the tracks: > > > 1. > > Slave To Love > > > 2. > > Jealous Guy > > > 3. > > Oh Yeah > > > 4. > > I'm In The Mood For Love > > > 5. > > Avalon > > > 6. > > Smoke Gets In Your Eyes > > 7. > > Is Your Love Strong Enough? > > > 8. > > More Than This > > > 9. > > Falling In Love Again > > > 10. > > Crazy Love > > 11. > > Will You Love Me Tomorrow > > > 12. > > Just Like You > > > 13. > > Your Painted Smile > > 14. > > To Turn You On > > > 15. > > He'll Have To Go > > 16. > > Zamba > > 17. > > Windswept > > > 18. > > My Only Love > > > > > > >--------------------------- >Kicki Gustafsson >http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) >http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:21:13 -0500 From: jspellma Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! Speaking of Morrissey, does anyone know the Smiths instrumental which developed into the Ferry/Marr "Right Stuff"? Thanks, Jim Colleen Matan wrote: > You know, now that I have thought more about this, this endless stream of > reissues (not the long overdue remasters) forecast for the rest of the > year brings to mind the words of Morrissey: > > Re-issue! Re-package! Re-package! > Re-evaluate the songs > Double-pack with a photograph > Extra Track (and a tacky badge) > > Best of! Most of! > Satiate the need > Slip them into different sleeves! > Buy both, and feel deceived > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:23:52 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, jspellma wrote: > Speaking of Morrissey, does anyone know the Smiths instrumental > which developed into the Ferry/Marr "Right Stuff"? It was called "Money Changes Everthing." (I think it turned up on the live album that was officially released--I'm not at home so I can't check.) Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:22:59 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in Paris - A Review (Part 2) Bryan Ferry in Paris - A Review (Part 2) There was a nice poignant moment after this song as Ferry sincerely thanked his "wonderful band" and singled out "the legendary John Sutton" for praise. As he warmed to his task, he thanked all the crew including "the soundman Mick...Mike er, Mack, er...something like that..." I must say a word for the much-maligned guitarist Nils Solberg, who I had felt was a weak link in earlier performances, but produced a tour-de-force in switching effortlessly from the sugary "rhyming guitar" of Oh Yeah to the rockier songs and the other Django-esque jazzy pieces in the set. Definitely "most improved player" and only let down by milking the limelight in a shameless display of hubris at the end of the set. I felt there was a slight lull in the set as we progressed through "September Song" and "Falling In Love Again" before moving towards the crowd-pleasers at the end. Although ATGB has been a very welcome detour in Ferry's career, and is very listenable, it is distinctly niche material, and I wouldn't expect to hear many of these songs live again. "Out of the Blue" disappointed slightly as the two replacements in the string section, excellent in every other respect, failed to meet the astonishing climax to the song we saw the now-absent Lucy Wilkins create at the RFH. The playing was superb, but there was something about the phasing that seemed a little thin. I think that Jealous Guy has been another revelation this tour. It's arrangement has really revitalised a song that was becoming clichéd. Avalon too had a silky syncopation that had been missing in the guitar-laden and keyboards extravaganzas of previous tours. I do personally hope that Ferry retains this acoustic style of performance. It might be iconoclasm, and in this company, sheer heresy, but where's the need for a Roxy reunion when it can be this good without the others? Better still, how about some new Ferry material...? It must be said that the audience reaction was not as good as it had been at the RFH (but then how could it be?) but as the opening blasts of "Let's Stick Together" ripped out, things really hotted up. Ferry pointed, seemingly directly at me, and gestured to us to come to the front. We needed no second bidding, and boogied with Our Hero as all the classics were aired. Ferry really seemed to enjoy the performance of "Love Is The Drug", camping it up with the crowd. At one stage he aimed a mock drop-kick like Frankie Vaughn dropping a goal in the Six Nations championship, and as he returned to the mike closed his eyes and gave a short shake of the head as if he couldn't believe what he had done! A really campy and fun performance and Ferry in very relaxed mode. It would be easy to go through the motions at the end of a long tour but there was no indication of that at all. After the closing encore, the ironically timeless "As Time Goes By," Ferry and the band returned to their dressing rooms with Parisian cheers ringing long and loud in their ears, a justified reward for a wonderful performance. I make no apologies for being uncharacteristically gushing in this review...but to these ears it really was that good. Merci beaucoup, Bryan, and see you at the Royal Albert Hall. Chris - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:23:02 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in Paris - A Review (Part 1) Hello all, I've had a little problem posting over the last few days - here's another try... Bryan Ferry in Paris - A Review Paris bore witness to a remarkable performance last Thursday as Bryan Ferry's triumphal conquering of Europe reached it's conclusion in the French capital. Within the very conducive environs of the Paris Rex Theatre, Ferry's band, honed to perfection after four and a half months on the road, produced a sublime performance during the 105 minute show. With the nervousness and unfamiliarity with the material that affected the earlier performances now banished, this band are now as tight as John Sutton's drum skins. But even their magnificence was surpassed by a superb performance by Ferry himself, his voice better than I can ever remember, and his guile and stagecraft absolutely bewitching. The set began with the now familiar band pieces, each highlighting the strengths of the individual players, before Ferry himself bounded onto the stage for his opener, the jaunty "The Way You Look Tonight." The man was clearly here to enjoy himself, and there was a distinctly "end of term party" feel about the whole concert. There was a small, but extremely vociferous British contingent down at the front left of the stage, including Jocelyn and her beau, Colin, Johnny Reece, the redoubtable Monica and her Novacastrian friends (Geordies were very well represented that night) and Yours Truly, as well as our chic and charming Parisian host Luc Morvillier and his wife, to whom we are greatly indebted for the superb tickets and the warmth of their welcome. Thank you Luc. In the early part of the set Ferry frequently looked to this area for reassurance and acknowledgement before, during the opening notes to "Chance Meeting," a distinctly Gallic voice bellowed "ROXY!" which engendered huge mirth in the Great Man himself. This broke the ice and we were off on a great journey through both the new and older material. Smoke Gets In Your Eyes lived up to it's title as there was a certain uncharacteristic watering in the Turner ocular region. I haven't heard anyone else mention it, but this is one of the songs that really did it for me during this tour. I found the first half of the set particularly strong, with "Casanova" and "Carrickfergus" definite highs. The rhythmic percussion and harp work of the delicious Julia Thornton (looking hornier that a Viking hat-rack, BTW) was perfect counterpoint to the other playing on these familiar pieces. However we must not detract from the real star of the show. This was my third concert of the tour, and for me Ferry's voice was a total revelation, strong powerful and rich, without the reedyness and breathiness of the earlier gigs. His phrasing was immaculate, and he barely missed a note. He even remembered most of the words... But his voice was not the only strength. With support from a band playing absolutely at the top of it's form, the man was beguiling, constantly performing with a smile on his face and teasing his audience with sideways glances, winks and waves. I have seen Ferry many times but this was without doubt his best stage performance. Spellbinding. Whirling and posing, gesturing and pirouetting he held the attention almost completely. I'm delighted to say the much-missed fringe is gradually reappearing in the appropriate place, and Ferry looked tanned and fit and highly energetic during the performance, in contrast to the tired and pale man I saw after the RFH gig. Wisely he avoided speaking in French, apart from a short speech about "Le dernier soir de notre tour" which brought an ironic cheer, and he generally kept his inter-song pieces to a minimum. As Ferry pounded out the piano introduction of "The Only Face" Enrico swaggered down to the front, looking like Bob Hoskins in "The Long Good Friday" had traded in his tommy-gun for a trumpet, and then coaxed a treacle-sweet solo from his instrument. Sublime. The intermission was augmented by the addition of an extra band song "Sweet Georgia Brown" to the familiar Glenn Miller-esque "I'm Fer It Too" before Ferry reappeared for a change in the set, the addition of the schmaltzy "Oh Yeah." Although it came at the expense of the boisterous "Streetlife" I felt this was a welcome addition to the set. For those of us who were aware of Roxy during the '70's but used the later material as a springboard into the earlier, more esoteric stuff this was a nice memory jogger, and one which was important, as this material was extremely commercially successful, and was generally unrepresented during this tour. (Part 2 to follow) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 19:46:44 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] re:Pyjamarama "Now, when I hear one, I always think of the other." Sorry for that.Heres what you do....stick Lou Reed-"Nowhere at all" on continuous play,open a nice bottle of your favourite plonk du jour,and as the demon begins to take control,you can begin to introduce a little"Pyjamarama".Repeat this continually untill all memories of Chicory Tip and association have disapeared.It works for me! DM. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 00:51:04 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Of sirens and compilations While FYP is my firm fave album, nice to see Siren mentioned - especially 'Sentimental Fool' as it's my fave Roxy song, ever. I really must dig out my old 'cuttings' sometime - I remember the song being described many years ago as 'originally in 3 parts' which were joined together to complete the finished product. I still get shivers down the spine with that song. It reminds me too of the 75' Tour - they began with SF - Ferry singing the opening lines, still offstage, eventually strolling on just before the 1st Chorus. Magical. As for the recent 'compilations' suggestions - I loved the 'hate' one Martino, - I really must put my two-penny worth in on this thread. Therefore, a couple of suggestions (I've had time to think about this as I've been sitting with my 'foot up' all evening - nasty sprain following my walks round Parisien streets) so here goes... 'Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry : Songs they damn well should have won a load of Grammys for' : 1) Ladytron 2) If There Is Something 3) Pyjamarama 4) Beauty Queen 5) Grey Lagoons 6) Serenade 7) Mother Of Pearl 8) Out Of The Blue 9) Prairie Rose 10) Sentimental Fool 11) 2.H.B. (BF version) 12) Love Me Madly Again 13) This Island Earth 14) Same Old Scene 15) Lover 16) True To Life 17) Windswept 18) Boys And Girls 19) Your Painted Smile 20) The Only Face - ----------------------------- Yep - that's my 'desert island selection' of the self-penned tracks, for sure. Incidentally - something that Ivor mentioned, happened to me too, it took me a long, long time to like YPS, now I adore it. And, just to show I'm not being completely crawling, biased and fawning about it all, there's a mini-LP too : 'Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music - Songs which I really wish they hadn't done' : 1) You Are My Sunshine 2) Fingerpoppin' 3) Help Me Make It Through The Night 4) Triptych 5) Party Doll 6) Rock Of Ages 7) Four Letter Love 8) Cry Cry Cry 9) Seven Deadly Sins 10) The Name Of The Game 11) While My Heart Is Still Beating 12) Girl Of My Best Friend - ---------------------------------------- There, I've got that off my chest now. An ultimate 'covers' compilation of Bry still to come. Got to think hard on that one. Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:33:26 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to love Bryan is contracturally obligated to put out a compilation album every 5 years - some might debate the wisdom or motives of the contract to start with but personally I welcome the album. Sure, most of the people who buy it will be people like us but anything (within reason!) that keeps Bryan in the public eye between releases is good by me. Long gaps between albums means he's lost a lot of ground over recent years but the success of "As Time Goes By" and the tour has seen him make a not inconsiderable recovery. Of course what's really needed to capitalise on this is a new album and I can't believe for a minute that this is lost on Bryan or anyone closely involved with him. There is almost certainly a 'game plan' in which these latest promotions of the back catalogue and a new album in 2001(?) play a big part. The artwork for "Slave To Love" looks excellent (much better than "More Than This"). As for the track listing, much of it is what we'd expect in terms of some of the hit singles but it's great to see the likes of "Just Like You" and "Crazy Love" in there although I can think of a lot I'd include on this particular album before getting to "Your Painted Smile" or "He'll Have to Go". Still, each to his own. Regards Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Connell To: Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to love > Thanks for the track list of Slave To Love Kicki, > > Slave To Love is my favourite song anyway, but it's great to see 'He'll have > to go' and 'Your Painted Smile' on there. I know it's another 'best of' > release, but it looks good to me. Does anyone else like the look of it? > > Does anyone know if music stores in the UK will be able to import it? > > Tracy. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:40:33 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to love Tracy As for availability in the UK ahead of the release in November, some larger branches of HMV and Virgin occassionally have imports in stock but nowhere near as much as they did years ago. You may be able to order it specifically but I'm sure you'll be able to get it over the Internet and I'd be very surprised if Key Mail Order didn't get hold of a supply. You can get yourself on a free Bryan Ferry / Roxy Music Priority Mailing List (conventional mail, not e-mail) and they're very good at sending out advance notification of releases at very competetive prices. You can visit their website and e-mail them with queries at https://shop.keymailorder.com/index.html Regards, Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Connell To: Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to love > Thanks for the track list of Slave To Love Kicki, > > Slave To Love is my favourite song anyway, but it's great to see 'He'll have > to go' and 'Your Painted Smile' on there. I know it's another 'best of' > release, but it looks good to me. Does anyone else like the look of it? > > Does anyone know if music stores in the UK will be able to import it? > > Tracy. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 01:43:42 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] Key Mail Order It seems as though UK list members will be able to get an import of "Slave To Love" from Key Mail Order. It's listed on their site at £12.99 with "Ordinary Decent Criminal" available at £13.99. Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:01:55 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Key Mail Order £12.99 translates to 20.45 US £13.99 translates to 22.02 US Most US CDs go for around $16-17 sigh ... and "Slave to Love" is a CD of mostly retreads! well, Bryan can by that private isle near fiji NEXT year ... -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com >-------------------------------------------------------< > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Richard Swift > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 8:44 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Key Mail Order > > > It seems as though UK list members will be able to get an import of "Slave > To Love" from Key Mail Order. It's listed on their site at £12.99 with > "Ordinary Decent Criminal" available at £13.99. > > Richard > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:02:50 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave To Love Tracks On "Dance With Life" Bryan's voice sounds a thousand times better than on _As Time Goes By_, in my served view. - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kendrick Who would have thought anyone would have described DANCE WITH LIFE in such glittering terms? |But that's the fun, isn't it? Any opinion, however minority, is held by someone! " All views served here." | | - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:18:57 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! "Money Changes Everything" is available on a very wonderful Smiths CD entitled _World Won't Listen_ -- if you think Ferry fans are wanting, try experieneing a Morrissey concert. he never plays the good songs!! but always a hoot. - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: jspellma |Speaking of Morrissey, does anyone know the Smiths instrumental |which developed into the Ferry/Marr "Right Stuff"? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:21:42 -0500 From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in Paris - A Review (Part 1) Chris Turner wrote: > With the > nervousness and unfamiliarity with the material that affected the earlier > performances now banished, this band are now as tight as John Sutton's drum > skins. Chris, which earlier performances are you referring to? I saw them barely a week into the tour (Toronto Nov.9th) and they were tighter than... uh, Julia Thornton's harp? Really, the band never missed a note and they all seemed very relaxed and focused. We have a good part of that show on tape now if anyone should doubt the veracity of the aforementioned claims. Still, Paris.... I envy you. Must have been a great show. cheers, Noam - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:49:26 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) I'd like to add a "me too" for Siren. Sentimental Fool is the perfect intro for a Roxy mix tape (followed by Out of the Blue). And although it may be a little hokey, Just Another High still gets me every time. Our party boy from Love is the Drug screws up big time and finds out too late what he let get away. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 22:41:30 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) - -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Matan To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 5:00 PM Subject: [AVALON] the song(s) of the Siren(s) > >I never really liked the albums which followed _Siren_ (I don't even own >_Manifesto_), with the exception of _Avalon_ (which, also, in a way I'd >say is not exactly a Roxy album either). And I really liked parts of the >albums which preceded it. Except there'd be songs which just seemed to >lose the thread. _Siren_ was the exception. The songs sounded like they >fit together--like they belonged together just as is. After waiting 3 years for the new Roxy album, Manifesto came as a huge shock with the absents of Jobson, or even a replacement, leaving an obvious void in their music that made it almost painful to listen to. With the exception of Spin Me Round, neither Manifesto or Flesh and Blood did anything for me and the same goes for Avalon although I agree it`s the best of the post Siren albums. The song Avalon always seemed to me too close to Spin Me Round and IMO, Spin Me Round is a better song. All of the guts and imagination that defined Roxy were gone and I agree that Roxy Music ended with Siren leaving their later incarnation a mediocre over polished, over produced "Bryan Ferry Band". So the question is weather or not we`ll ever see Ferry going back to his rock roots and release an album *of new material* for the fans who rocked to Roxy. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:55:15 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave To Love Tracks Colleen Matan wants to know: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Ivor Canning wrote: > > > for and on behalf of STROFFS ('Society for The Rehabilitation Of Forgotten > > Ferry Songs') > > Ivor, what are some of the others members? > > Colleen Aren't we all ? Regards, Ivor. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 03:53:44 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon update - Right Stuff! Colleen Matan wrote: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, jspellma wrote: > > > Speaking of Morrissey, does anyone know the Smiths instrumental > > which developed into the Ferry/Marr "Right Stuff"? > > It was called "Money Changes Everthing." (I think it turned up on the > live album that was officially released--I'm not at home so I can't > check.) I don't remember 'MCE' being on 'Rank' (if that's what you're referring to) but it is on the semi-compilation 'The World Won't Listen', having originally been the B-side of 'Bigmouth Strikes Again'. I remember Brian Eno praising 'BSA' in a magazine article some years ago, which made me listen to 'The Smiths' properly for the first time (and then I found 'MCE', at which point the lightbulb went on...) 'Money Changes Everything' was produced (or engineered ?) by none other than John Porter, proving (once again) that all roads lead to Roxy... Regards, Ivor. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #104 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest