From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #92 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, March 8 2000 Volume 05 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. re: re : re: re Britney Spears ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera [William Sommers ] Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson ["Will Frechette" ] [AVALON] Re: Mary Rose C. input [MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty)] Re: [AVALON] Good News and Bad News ["James James" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Mary Rose C. input ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson ["Ivor Canning" ] [AVALON] eddie j. ["mark shanahan" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:25:45 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. re: re : re: re Britney Spears >>> "eRacerX" 03/08 4:20 am >>> >Screw Britney Spears. Is that legal? My problem with all these boy bands and girly singers is that they all do BALLADS, and it's so boring. This is all a marketing ploy to get the parents in to the music as well, and it saddens me that we have a generation of kiddies growing up thinking that soppy ballads is as good as it gets. BRING BACK SOME FUN TO MUSIC. So there. SimonG - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:15:54 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera William Sommers comes out of the closet to say: > Of the entire, enormous, Roxy-related catalog, I do consider "Listen Now" > the absolute pinnacle. Well... usually, anyway. By a hair. > > > -wfs (possible heathen, who incidentally might someday even > complete his 12-years-and-running one and only foray into > semi-autobiographical novel writing... "Postcard Love") > > (and who still wonders why Bill M. was never nominated > here for the RM reunion bass wielder) The early PM albums ('DH', '801 Live' and 'LN!') are for me, the most completely satisfying of the various solo albums (although I will confess to being less than enamoured with 'The Explorers' and 'Southern Cross'). It's a good point about MacCormick - I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it, but you're right. Unfortunately, John Wetton tends to get my vote in these things - I do wish they could have made more of the 'Wetton/Manzanera' project; IMO the material was far stronger than Asia and could have been as successful with the right image/marketing etc... BTW Nah, you're not a heathen in my books, though of course we all might get ourselves a reputation as dangerous subversives. Perhaps there's an underground network we could join - 'We are normal and we dig Phil Manzanera' - what do you think ? Or is too much 'Listen Now!' making me paranoid again ?? Regards, Ivor. n.p. 'Que?' (but only in my head - my old vinyl is so worn with years of overuse, I daren't put a needle to it !). - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:25:57 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. re: re : re: re Britney Spears - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:27:12 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. re: re : re: re Britney Spears my 14 year old son has Brittany and Christina all over his walls and has every CD imaginable... Actually compromised with him - took him to see Christina Aguilera in concert who was opening for TLC - they were great! eileen in Queens - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:21:44 -0000 From: "David Squires" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V5 #91 On 8 Mar 2000, at 4:05, guess who wrote: > Speaking of Crosby, Crosby ,Stills Nash, & Young are in town doing > a Concert. ROTFFL! Stop it, the pain's too great... David - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 07:33:22 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. re: re : re: re Britney Spears Simon sez: > BRING BACK SOME FUN TO MUSIC. Where are the Wombles when we need them?!? or even the Ramones - H. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:28:13 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : B.S. & R&R Here's another. I'm all for recognizing and honoring musical achievement and talent. Nothing wrong with that. But whoever is running the show has to make sure they just don't water down these awards with entrants who arguably really don't belong. A prime reason for induction is the "influence and significance of the artist's contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll". Going to be interesting with Roxy/Ferry....if Zal and the Lovin Spoonful got in sheesh....ok it's nice tuneful stuff ok but Hall of Fame? Rich - -----Original Message----- From: Decophile [mailto:tmoq@pipeline.com] Being told by fat-cat record industry elitist that they are *now* worthy of *their* recognition is more of an insult than an honor. Who gives a s**t what they think? The fans are the only ones with an opinion that matters. If any real honors are to be bestowed, it should go to those like Ozzy Osbourne/Black Sabbath for telling the R&R Hall fo Sham to get bent. Just another opinion. Gene - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:44:37 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. re: re : re: re Britney Spears >From: "eRacerX" >Screw Britney Spears. are you saying you're interested? :^) because, once i logged out of my 'non-real' isp/e-mail account, i saw a story about the u.s. politics race and must have hit the wrong link. i got to a piece about how spears and prince william are a big item now -- so, you may want to put in your bid and move quickly ... now, unless she's doing a duet with ferry, can we end the spears thread - *please*??? >I've got kids, and at least they listen to *some* of 'my' music, mostly >They Might Be Giants, and they used to like the Cramps. hey, 'they might be giants' are great; the cramps are wonderful. your kids have pretty good taste! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 05:49:18 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson >From: "Decophile" > > DH is the gem of all the RM solo records. Not to mention the only > > appearance of Eno and Eddie J. on the same song. ( Please feel > free to >correct me, Mighty Gurus of Avalon ) > >Too bad Eno and Jobson didn`t do more together. what *is* eddie up to these days? i seem to remember something about 'u.k.' being tossed around on the list a while ago. was this a 'reunion' thang? i'm not a fan _directly_ of jobson's, but would be interested to know - if someone can say. peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:00:18 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson http://www.eddiejobson.com/ mark shanahan wrote: > > >From: "Decophile" > > > DH is the gem of all the RM solo records. Not to mention the only > > > appearance of Eno and Eddie J. on the same song. ( Please feel > free to > >correct me, Mighty Gurus of Avalon ) > > > >Too bad Eno and Jobson didn`t do more together. > > what *is* eddie up to these days? i seem to remember something about 'u.k.' > being tossed around on the list a while ago. was this a 'reunion' thang? > i'm not a fan _directly_ of jobson's, but would be interested to know - if > someone can say. > > peaces/ms > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -- -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music site: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >-----------------------------------------------------< - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:01:03 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/wnoth.htm#jobson Eddie Jobson - briefly joined Yes before 90125. Homepage [coming soon] Legacy, Eddie Jobson's album formerly to be released under the UK name, is due soon. John Wetton is no longer part of the project and all the parts he originally recorded may have been replaced. Bill Bruford plays on several tracks, while Tony Levin, Steve Hackett and Francis Dunnery (backing vocals on ABWH) also appear, as does the City of Prague Philharmonic Strings. Jobson, who also produces and engineers, describes the concept: "We have taken on the daunting subject of the aftermath of Communism, or of any despotic regime, and the will of the people to survive." Jobson continues to do TV work, including the series "Nash Bridges". As to the possibility of a release for the music, Jobson wrote (c. 21 Jul 1999): "I've thought about it, but don't want to spend the time compiling/remixing at the moment. Don Johnson is into doing it... we'll see - down the road." mark shanahan wrote: > > >From: "Decophile" > > > DH is the gem of all the RM solo records. Not to mention the only > > > appearance of Eno and Eddie J. on the same song. ( Please feel > free to > >correct me, Mighty Gurus of Avalon ) > > > >Too bad Eno and Jobson didn`t do more together. > > what *is* eddie up to these days? i seem to remember something about 'u.k.' > being tossed around on the list a while ago. was this a 'reunion' thang? > i'm not a fan _directly_ of jobson's, but would be interested to know - if > someone can say. > > peaces/ms > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -- -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music site: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >-----------------------------------------------------< - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:23:16 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney Every now and then our moonlit lush life is infiltrated by a mosquito whine. Ergo the present "debate" about Britney Spears. Ancient Avalonions will be familiar with my views on Joan Armatrading and other shadows hanging over us that had to be torn down. Britney Spears is best known in Europe as the Search Engine's delight ; although we wouldn't recognise her in a bar, or God forbid, on the radio, we know that the combination of the two words that make up her name are, along with sundry sexual expressions, the most sought after site characters on the global net. (Curious that "Amanda+Lear" does not rank highly amongst the Onanists, but I digress.) This list allows all sorts to duck under the red velvet rope and into our marble halls : Scots, Ultravixens, Venetian princesses, more Scots, but one thing we share is an ideal of beauty, a treasure so rare that even devils might care. Is it too much to ask that we keep our subject matter related to the spirit holding us in a trance ? Martinique - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:47:03 CST From: "Mary Rose Chibnall" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney hi everybody. who are the Onansists? I know who Brittany Spears is. Mary Rose ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:02:42 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney - ---------- >From: "Mary Rose Chibnall" > hi everybody. who are the Onansists? I know who Brittany Spears is. > Did I write Onansists ? Or are you only typing with one hand ? - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 07:59:51 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson >From: Heather James >Jobson continues to do TV work, including the series "Nash Bridges". As to >the possibility of a release for the music, Jobson wrote (c. 21 Jul 1999): >"I've thought about it, but don't want to spend the time >compiling/remixing at the moment. Don Johnson is into doing it... we'll see >- down the road." well, *that's* disappointing; however, i guess it's better to be working than not ... thanks heather. peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:11:55 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney >From: "Mary Rose Chibnall" >hi everybody. who are the Onansists? I know who Brittany Spears is. it's all right here, in president clinton's favorite book [the one he gave to monica loosinksy & his wife too! :^)]: http://www.worldwideschool.com/library/books/lit/poetry/LeavesofGrass/chap33.html but the 'britney spears onanists' - they're *the worst* of all! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:14:28 CST From: "Mary Rose Chibnall" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney hi Martin. no, I type with two hands and I am pretty fast but I guess I can't spell like you can. and I'm sorry but I always can't understand what you are talking about. it seemed like you were mad because people were talking about the wrong things and I thought you were trying to get us to talk about the right stuff. I'm sorry I'm not as smart as the rest of you and there was a lot of stuff this morning I didn't know anything about. so I asked because I didn't recognize the word. I will try to spell better next time. sorry. Mary Rose ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:29:39 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera Lynn Hoskins , who stoppeth one of three, is rash enough to comment within earshot of the Ancient Manzaneerer: > I heard "Listen Now" before "801 Live." Not sure how that happened. > All these years later, I remember it as clear as day... I was a disc > jockey at my college radio station. I'm sitting here literally > picturing the stacks of albums on the floor: "Blues For Allah," > "Young Americans," "Jailbreak," "Original Soundtrack," "Katy Lied," > "Presence," "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway," "Wish You Were Here." > And the day that "Listen Now" came in, the program director was > stunned. I think we all were. We'd never heard anything like it. I > remember getting very excited when I saw the Godley-Creme credits. > Love that Gizmo! I was already a Roxy fan, but this was... special. > (Not that Roxy Music isn't special, don't get me wrong!) But, you > know what I mean. These are all albums I am only now finding out about, having spent my formative years in a kind of protective Roxy bubble...It's interesting to hear that 'Listen Now !' was able to make an impact amongst those heavyweights. > I discovered that we also had "801 Live" (I was told it was even > better) and so I alternated between the two from show to show. And > I'm MOST UNHAPPY to report that I have never heard "Diamond Head." > Me dumb-dumb. Not at all, you recognise you've got a problem and that's half the battle S8^) Now you need to take those first steps towards becoming a fully-fledged 'Diamond Header'... > Would anyone care to compare "Diamond Head" with "Listen Now"? I'll give it a go. 'DH' is marginally closer in style to '801 Live' than 'LN!', but still very much has its own distinctive character. Where 'LN!' is all subtle jazziness, 'DH' is more upbeat with bright shiny textures and sharp production. It is based around a core band of Manzanera, John Wetton and Paul Thompson with Eno, Eddie Jobson, and Andy Mackay (amongst others) making various contributions. Thompson's drumming and PM's guitar playing are very much to the fore of the mix and there are strong Eno vocal/lyrical contributions to 'Big Day' and 'Miss Shapiro'. 'Frontera' comes across like English Santana with Latin percussion and Robert Wyatt singing strange lyrics in Spanish, 'Diamond Head' is all chiming guitars and chugging strings (more controlled and focussed than the live version), 'Big Day' is bright quirky Eno pop with twinkly tiplé sprinkled across the stereo field, 'The Flex' always reminds me of a funky 'Your Application's Failed' (and features that well known firm of solicitors Mackay, Manzanera, Thompson and Jobson), 'Same Time Next Week' is (incongruously, IMO) a straight-forward boy/girl type duet with John Wetton / Doreen Chanter (cool solo though). The second side is largely more experimental, with 'Miss Shapiro' full of handclaps and layered fuzz guitars (a different beast from the stripped down '801 Live' version), 'East of Echo' opens with rippling echoes of distorted guitar conjuring up images of forked lightning over a desert landscape (and the 'MoP' riff making a guest appearance later), 'Lagrima' is an oboe/acoustic guitar duet straight out of a Morricone soundtrack while 'Alma' brings the curtain down with a climactic guitar solo building to a shimmering wall of sound before someone abruptly pulls the plug...have I mixed enough metaphors there ? All of which is a long-winded way of saying 'buy this record' ! > Ivor, I loved your track-by-track descriptions. Made me want to hear > the album again for the millionth time. And I WILL be getting the > remastered "Listen Now." And why did you have to mention that BBC > sessions disc that's coming out? Now I'm going to have to rob a bank. Don't do that - we'd have to come and bail you out S8^) > William, thank you so much for the Simon Ainley link. Made me feel > very sad reading about how his beautiful voice got passed up when > Phil did "K-Scope." Mind you, the amazing Tim Finn got the job and I > would never complain about that, but it's too bad someone else didn't > snatch up Simon. (Glad he's still singing, though.) IMHO, Simon Ainley would have been infinitely preferable to James Wraith as a vocalist for 'The Explorers' (sorry, James, if you're out there !) > I could keep blabbing about Manzanera for quite some time, but I'll > call it a night and pick this up again later. Please do, it's nice to actually talk about the music once in a while... Regards, Ivor. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:39:01 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney martino, you spelled it right. in fact your prose is of the highest wank ... er, rank. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney > > > ---------- > >From: "Mary Rose Chibnall" > > hi everybody. who are the Onansists? I know who Brittany Spears is. > > > > Did I write Onansists ? Or are you only typing with one hand ? > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:47:13 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Search (and destroy): Britney Where's MonquiBoy when you need him? >>> "Victor Hastings" 03/08 4:39 pm >>> martino, you spelled it right. in fact your prose is of the highest wank ... er, rank. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:07:41 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera - Noam? At 11:44 PM 3/7/00 -0500, eRacerX wrote: > Noam, does that mean you do not have Diamond Head? Well (oh, the irony) I think we know who doesn't have "Listen Now", for... > DH is the gem of all the RM solo records. Not to mention the only > appearance of Eno and Eddie J. on the same song. ( Please feel free > to correct me, Mighty Gurus of Avalon ) They're both on (I believe... working from memory at the moment) three of its tracks. Definitely Postcard Love and Flight 19, in any case. -wfs - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:40:35 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. Tunes & movies She makes me happy...as long as the sound is turned down. Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kicki Gustafsson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Re. Tunes & movies > >> Colleen, > >> > >> You must not have kids! > >> > >> Arnie > > > >Arnie, > > > >None that I know of! > > > >Colleen > > > > I find it hard to believe that you don't know who she is. After all, > Britney Spears was born to make you happy. > > > /Kicki G > > ------------------------ > Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 > http://www.op.se > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:39:15 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera At 10:15 AM 3/8/00 +0000, Ivor Canning wrote: >> (and who still wonders why Bill M. was never nominated >> here for the RM reunion bass wielder) > The early PM albums ('DH', '801 Live' and 'LN!') are for me, the most > completely satisfying of the various solo albums (although I will > confess to being less than enamoured with 'The Explorers' and 'Southern > Cross'). I'll admit I'm considerably happier with "A Million Reasons Why" (re-release of SC, with addition of the 4 searing tracks from Seville) than the original. > It's a good point about MacCormick - I hadn't thought about it until > you mentioned it, but you're right. Unfortunately, John Wetton tends > to get my vote in these things - But, but, but... inviting a bassist back just isn't in the Roxy tradition. An important consideration, you know. :-) And, hey, Bill already has at least one of the numbers in his repertoire. -wfs (*sputter*... "normal"?) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:53:59 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson UK was Bill Bruford, John Wetton and Eddie. Sort of King Crimson meets Roxy reunion. Will > what *is* eddie up to these days? i seem to remember something about 'u.k.' > being tossed around on the list a while ago. was this a 'reunion' thang? > i'm not a fan _directly_ of jobson's, but would be interested to know - if > someone can say. > > peaces/ms > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:50:57 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Mary Rose C. input Lets not be so hard on Mary Rose C. She has silentley been an observer trying to absorb Our lingo. The first time she speaks,bam, shes blasted. Lets all try to teach her. It takes all kinds to make up this world of ours. Some people might not be as fortunate as us but that doesn't mean they don"t have something to say. "Misfortune is never to the soul that accepts it; for such do always see that in every cloud is an Angel's face. My thoughts .M.Marlana K............. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:20:24 PST From: "James James" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Good News and Bad News As long as they don't have a problem with mp3's. I may have to disquise them and rename them with a different suffix, but I'll check into it. Thnaks, James >From: f2hb@casema.net (2hb) >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Good News and Bad News >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:07:08 +0100 > >"James James" wrote: > >... It's just not worth it, and he's getting paranoid about > >@home shutting him down. 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I thought you >might be interested in getting your own Free X:drive! >Signing up is fast and easy, just go to > >http://www.xdrive.com/cgi-bin/signup_form.cgi?referee=386992 > >X:drive lets your visitors: > > - Store, Share and Access Up to 100MB of Files Online. > - Retrieve Your Files Instantly from Any Computer, Anytime. > - Secure Your Documents & Keep Your Files Safe and Private > - Share Your Docs, Presentations, and Photos with friends. > - Collaborate with co-workers from multiple locations. > - Eliminate the Hassles of Disks, Laptops and Large Emails. > >This is a really great service, I know you'll love it! > >http://www.xdrive.com/cgi-bin/signup_form.cgi?referee=386992 > >2HB > > > > > > >-------------------- >To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail >majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:50:43 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Mary Rose C. input Nah! Let's flame her. Just like you Marys stickin' together like that. Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Korfanty" > Lets not be so hard on Mary Rose C. She has silentley been an observer > trying to absorb Our lingo. The first time she speaks,bam, shes blasted. > Lets all try to teach her. It takes all kinds to make up this world of > ours. Some people might not be as fortunate as us but that doesn't mean > they don"t have something to say. "Misfortune is never to the soul that > accepts it; for such do always see that in every cloud is an Angel's > face. My thoughts .M.Marlana K............. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:46:05 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Mary Rose C. input >From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) >Lets not be so hard on Mary Rose C. She has silentley been an >observer>trying to absorb Our lingo. The first time she speaks,bam, shes >blasted. Lets all try to teach her. so, who's knocking mary rose? i think she's A-OK, in my book. but, mary k. - - what did you have in mind to teach her, may i be so bold as to ask? peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:18:22 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Re : two Marys Why Will, Teach you'd be surprised! Isn't this all about B.F. & Roxy? Or is this another site now? M.Marlana K............................................ - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:28:03 EST From: Gal410@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Mary Rose C. input In a message dated 3/8/00 12:53:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, MarlanaK@webtv.net writes: << Lets not be so hard on Mary Rose C. She has silentley been an observer trying to absorb Our lingo. The first time she speaks,bam, shes blasted. Lets all try to teach her. It takes all kinds to make up this world of ours. Some people might not be as fortunate as us but that doesn't mean they don"t have something to say. "Misfortune is never to the soul that accepts it; for such do always see that in every cloud is an Angel's face. My thoughts .M.Marlana K............. >> Don't belittle Mary Rose, what she asked was fine. "Trying to absorb Our lingo" and saying "Some people might not be as fortunate as us" ??? What a subtle put-down. Don't pity anyone unless they ask for your pity. Mary Rose, You are a-ok with me, too! Heidi - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:58:33 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson In a message dated 03/08/2000 11:40:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, m_shanahan@hotmail.com writes: << As to >the possibility of a release for the music, Jobson wrote (c. 21 Jul 1999): >"I've thought about it, but don't want to spend the time >compiling/remixing at the moment. Don Johnson is into doing it... we'll see >- down the road." >> Heather- When and where did Jobson write this? Arnie - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:31:23 -0800 From: Lynn Hoskins Subject: [AVALON] Psycho Manifesto Passing thought... When "Manifesto" (the song, not the album) came out, did anyone besides me think they might have been influenced by Talking Heads' "Psycho Killer" just a little? There's the Eno connection, you know. Compare the opening bass lines and guitar, everything prior to when the vocals come in. At the time, it really jumped out at me. Now, I'm not so sure... Lynn - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:57:51 -0000 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the mighty e. jobson Mark Shanahan was heard to ponder > i seem to remember something about 'u.k.' > being tossed around on the list a while ago. was this a 'reunion' thang? > i'm not a fan _directly_ of jobson's, but would be interested to know - if > someone can say. > > peaces/ms U.K. was an Eddie Jobson post-Roxy project whose debut album (of the same name) was released 1978. The band was John Wetton (bs, vcl) , Eddie Jobson (kybd, vln), Bill Bruford (drm) and Allan Holdsworth (gtr). Wetton and Jobson, obviously, had worked together in Roxy, Wetton and Bruford were both in the Mark III King Crimson and Holdsworth had been in Bruford's own band (confusingly enough called 'Bruford'). To complete the link, Jobson did some studio overdubs on King Crimson's 'USA' album. U.K.'s style was classic British jazz fusion with progressive overtones - totally unlike Roxy or Crimson but more like National Health or Hatfield and The North (and in fact very similar to Bruford's own band). I hated it at the time but now think it's excellent - if you're not a fusebro you'll probably not be too impressed. By 1979, Holdsworth and Bruford had left to continue the 'Bruford' band with their album 'One Of A Kind'; interesting note fact fans, apart from Eddie playing uncredited violin on this album, it also features a certain Anthea Norman-Taylor playing Alice In Wonderland on the track 'Fainting In Coils'. Wetton and Jobson went on to recruit drummer Terry Bozzio (whom Jobson had worked with in Zappa's band - cf 'Zappa In New York') and continued as a three piece. They released both 'Danger Money' and 'Night After Night - Live' in 1979 and that was it, finished. It has always been implied that the band suffered from personality clashes between Wetton and Jobson and that the final split was fairly acrimonious. Interestingly, Alan White (of Yes), in an interview concerning Eddie's (very brief) spell with them c.1983, describes Eddie as a 'bit of a prima donna' - I'm sure I've read interviews where Wetton puts it rather more strongly ! Anyway, the most recent reunion (didn't it start back in 1996 ?) attempt seems to have gone the same way - Wetton and Jobson patched up their differences, started recording and the whole thing blew up again. Regards, Ivor. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:19:02 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera - -----Original Message----- From: Ivor Canning To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making room for Manzanera >'Frontera' comes across like English Santana with Latin percussion and >Robert Wyatt singing strange lyrics in Spanish For those wondering what this song is about, here`s the translation supplied by John Fulton on the manzanera.com site. Thanks, John. "It's necessary we get to the border before nightfall. We'll have to find him,wherever he has hidden. It's doubtful whether this actor is capable of playing an important role. I'll end up thinking you don't want to help us. Do you think we'll be able to convince him? I'll tell my assistant to go to the aviation company. Do you deny that the accused has offended the claimant in the most unforgivable way? We feel that it will be impossible for you to be at the play. I was glad to see that the theatre was full of people. I'll do everything possible to come back and see you again. I'm surprised at what happened"................. Gene - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:39:06 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] eddie j. thanks to everyone who offered up the jobson info today. and ivor - it *was* alan holdsworth i was thinking of (in rounding out the personnel) and i'd forgotten about terry bozzio - so thanks. i knew, at one time, who was in the group - just never listened to them. btw, bozzio did some great work w/zappa. i actually saw missing persons way back in (probably) '82 and bozzio made it worthwhile ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #92 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest