From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #80 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, February 29 2000 Volume 05 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] APS question ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] [AVALON] Good Mondegreen [ASchulberg@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Good Mondegreen ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] Kokomo ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: Re: [AVALON] what is "camp"? [Heather Buch ] Re: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years [Heather Buch ] [AVALON] RE: "Camp" [ecwoods@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years [AMeyersLD@aol.com] Re: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years [Heather Buch ] Re: [AVALON] last night's radio show ["James James" ] [AVALON] Noirishness/LA/Prison ship [Betsy Fowler ] Re: [AVALON] Noirishness/LA/Prison ship [Heather Buch ] Re: [AVALON] LOSER [Irene Adler ] Re: [AVALON] LOSER [Jeff Kay ] [AVALON] Winners of the CLASH. ["eman96" ] Re: [AVALON] last night's radio show ["eRacerX" ] Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years ["eRacerX" ] Re: [AVALON] what is "camp"? [ecwoods@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Ordinary Decent Criminal [Ida M Miller ] [AVALON] LA dreaming [jas2347@xsite.net] [AVALON] Midnight Special 1975 [jas2347@xsite.net] RE: [AVALON] Ordinary Decent Criminal ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] APS question Kokomo were a band, of which Neil Hubbard (and Alan Spenner?) was a member. They had a really good live reputation in the 70's, but a low recorded profile. I first heard of them on the 'Naughty Rhythms' tour of c1974 with my boyhood heroes Dr Feelgood, and Chilli Willi. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: gareth mc ginley [SMTP:ginley71@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 8:56 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] APS question > > Martin lists somebody called Kokomo as appearing in the This Is Tomorrow > piece in APS. Just wondered who this is and when did he work with Bryan? - > > couldn't find him credited on any of the albums. > > Gareth > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:41:50 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] last night's radio show I think the two songs below would be ideal candidates for inclusion on a new cd. SimonG >>> Noam Bronstein 02/27 8:15 pm >>> The CBC broadcast was pretty good 2.Bittersweet 4.Carrickfergus I think a few of these are good enough to make it to ASSH2 (or whatever the next tree is called?) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:38:40 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: [AVALON] mondegreen I was listening to "To Turn You On" yesterday and remembered a mondegreen I carried around for years.. "...with an open book beside...like uranium screw..." Chris - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:43:52 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Good Mondegreen Today's mondegreen on my calendar is from Deep Purple: Slow-Motion Walter, fire-engine guy. (Smoke on the water, fire in the sky) Arnie - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:13:41 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Good Mondegreen "...Monday mondegreen, so good to me, Monday mondegreen, it was all I hoped it would be..." > -----Original Message----- > From: ASchulberg@aol.com [SMTP:ASchulberg@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 11:44 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Good Mondegreen > > Today's mondegreen on my calendar is from Deep Purple: > > Slow-Motion Walter, fire-engine guy. > > > > > > (Smoke on the water, fire in the sky) > > Arnie > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:47:08 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years - ->>>> > >With his glamour, good looks, and upper class pretentions falling into this >type of lifestyle was probably the most inevitable thing that could have >> It's always seemed to me a strange criticism of Ferry that he has displayed 'upper class pretensions.' What are these pretensions, exactly? The fact is he made a lot of money and he bought a big house with it. Who wouldn't? He dresses well, but his fashion sense, as we all know, didn't appear out of the blue once there was money rolling in. I've always found much more irritating people like Rod Stewart who claim to still be 'working class boys ' while having billions in the bank and living in L. A. I can assure you, the environment of L. A. is immeasurably more 'fake ' than New York or London or Sussex could ever be. And I bet the restaurants Rod Stewart goes to are more pretentious than Ferry's regulars! Tim - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:52:59 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years Perhaps I should have made clear in my last post that I was taking Gareth's remarks about Ferry's upper class pretensions out of context, simply spinning off another thought. Tim >-------------------- >To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail >majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:15:25 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Kokomo > Martin lists somebody called Kokomo as appearing in the This Is Tomorrow > piece in APS. Just wondered who this is and when did he work with Bryan? - > couldn't find him credited on any of the albums. > > Gareth With the exceptions of Motorbikin' Chris, El Manzo and Thundersticks, the superb musicians who backed the Maestro on the In Your Mind tour were all in Kokomo. I followed this great band around the London pub circuit somewhere between '75 and '78. I felt then, and really believe now, that this was the group that Bryan would have loved The Gas Board to have been. You'll see lots of their names appearing in credits post-Siren. Their brand of white plastic soul was an interesting antidote to pre-punk prog-rock. Three singers took centre stage (two charming queens and a feisty maitresse) with Ann O'Dell on keyboards to their left. Hubbard and Spenner kept a beat repeatin' behind them, the latter legless of course. At the back Mel Collins and (Martin ?) Drover and a.n.other were the brass section. All these people were later to tour with Bryan and appear on all kinds of albums. Ann O'Dell, for instance, arranged the strings on Love Me Madly and When She Walks - two magnesium flare moments in the canon. And surely pistol-packing Andy Mackay must have considered getting to a monastary a little sooner when he heard Mel Collins' solo on Thats How Strong My Love Is. Their territory was familiar turf to Avalonia. Aretha, Gladys, Al Green, Smokey, Temps, a bit of blues, (a toe was dipped into Little Feat.) Lovely dancing music played with elan. Sadly their stage presence never translated itself to disc. Some bland production somehow enervated their live sound. Al Martino - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:28:38 -0500 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] what is "camp"? - --_uReach_com_26916734995174451824614xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would second that. To me, it's sort of a greatly exagerrated sense of glamour or showiness. The classic image of the drag queens sort of sums it up (no offense to the drag queens out there). I associate it with the Warhol film crowd, John Waters films, and Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. And, at the risk of stereotyping gay culture, I would say that I associate camp (or at least part of what camp is) with a gay, or at least, gender-questioning aesthetic. To me, the Rocky Horror Picture show is very camp, with its spectacularized drag-queen trashiness. Early Roxy could also be considered camp, at least in the costumes. I am thinking specifically about Eno's feather boas, the flashy, Elvis-like costumes, etc. I don't know if I'd say that early Roxy was a homoerotic band. Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Decophile (tmoq@pipeline.com) wrote: > My dictionary defines it as: Having deliberately artificial, vulgar, > banal, > or affectedly humorous qualities or style. > I`ve always considered it as tongue and cheek, melodramatic in a > humorous > way or not to be taken seriously. > > Gene > > -----Original Message----- > From: ecwoods@mindspring.com > To: avalon mailing list > Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 12:36 AM > Subject: [AVALON] what is "camp"? > > > >Can anyone help me get a handle on the term "camp"? I've heard it > applied > >to early Roxy in a couple of interviews, as well as to things like _The > >Rocky Horror Picture Show_. But the way I define "camp" doesn't seem > to > >cover all the things other people have termed "campy." Is it like > "kitsch"? > >Or is it more like doing something the trendy set would look down upon > and > >then making that cool? Or is my Slang English Dictionary correct when > it > >narrowly defines it as simply being "theatrical" or "exaggerat[ing] > >something to the point where it becomes almost too ridiculous"? But > even > >the glam-est Roxy wasn't *ridiculous*, was it? There must be a broader > >definition. Someone with a clearer understanding please give me your > take > on > >it. > > > >Thanks, > >Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > >To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > >majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - --_uReach_com_26916734995174451824614xxx_-- - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:40:16 -0500 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years - --_uReach_com_26916734995174521626430xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Tim Kendrick (tim63@earthlink.net) wrote: I can assure you, the > environment > of L. A. is > immeasurably more 'fake ' than New York or London or Sussex could ever > be. See, that's where I disagree. I think L.A. is actually, (unlike Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffany's), a "false phony." It is when you are in another place, watching the latest Schwarzenegger (never could spell that) film that you think, "god, all they do in this town is manufacture images, it must be really fake. Then you go to L.A. and you realize that there actually is no L.A., not in the sense of a bright, shining, oz that created that glossy, slickly-packaged movie you just saw. There is just a big dystopian, smoggy expanse of land littered with freeways, tract-home developments, suburbs, ghettos, and barrios, as real and as broken and as socially crippled as any other big American city. There is really no L.A. to be fake! Just a lot of ideas about what L.A. is. And in fact, the reality of it is probably more broken since you also have all the unfortunate people who come out there looking for the answers to their dreams, and find something worse. I lived in L.A. for 25 years and saw very few tourists there. To me, a city that manufactures itself for the tourist trade, like San Francisco, is "really" fake. Heather > And I bet the restaurants Rod Stewart goes to are more pretentious than > Ferry's > regulars! > > > Tim > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - --_uReach_com_26916734995174521626430xxx_-- - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:02:54 -0500 From: ecwoods@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] RE: "Camp" Thanks, Gene and Heather, for your explanations of "camp." That really helps. It had always bugged me that I didn't have a clear understanding of that term. Thank y'all! Crystal - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:08:37 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years , hpropes@ureach.com writes: << Then you go to L.A. and you realize that there actually is no L.A., not in the sense of a bright, shining, oz that created that glossy, slickly-packaged movie you just saw. >> Spaulding Gray, in one of his delightful monologues, talks about going to LA and finding that everybody is an aspiring screenwriter. So he asks evrybody he meets (waitresses, taxi drivers, janitors) how their script is coming, and they all have a script "in process''. Well, I was in LA in November, and jokingly tried it. My waiter, taxi driver and desk clerk all had scripts they were trying to sell. My favourite LA moment: "I may be a sommelier NOW, but what I really want to do is direct...." Heather, you may be right about LA, but it showed it's worst face to me on that trip. Andrew in Evanston - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:30:20 -0500 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years - --_uReach_com_26916734995175182020091xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, AMeyersLD@aol.com (AMeyersLD@aol.com) wrote: > Well, I was in LA in November, and jokingly tried it. My waiter, taxi > driver > and desk clerk all had scripts they were trying to sell. > My favourite LA moment: "I may be a sommelier NOW, but what I really > want to > do is direct...." > Heather, you may be right about LA, but it showed it's worst face to me > on > that trip. > Andrew in Evanston > I believe it! But they were just ordinary struggling folks trying to get rich and famous - probably some of the most "real" examples of American culture. Sorry if I get on a monologue about L.A. It's probably my favorite city in the world. I get passionate about it. Heather > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - --_uReach_com_26916734995175182020091xxx_-- - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:41:14 PST From: "James James" Subject: Re: [AVALON] last night's radio show I taped the entire show on one side of a 110-minute Maxell XLII. I have converted the tracks to mp3 and will post them for everyone to download. I might be able to make a master CD. But I thought the ftp access would be a quick way to initially get them. When the songs are up, I will post the address, login and password. Should be soon. James >From: Noam Bronstein >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] last night's radio show >Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:15:59 -0500 > >The CBC broadcast was pretty good - did anyone catch it on the internet? >The >sound quality on FM was excellent. I taped it on a Denon metal cassette. >I >lost the first few seconds of LST when I had to flip sides. Actually I had >to >be a human antenna and stand in front of the tuner for _the entire hour_ - >every >time I tried moving a foot back the signal strength dropped from 90 to 50 - >arrrgh. The only audible static is at the beginning of the first song >though, >after that I was too paranoid to move away. >They cut an already short set in half and ended up with this (I think): >1.The Way You Look Tonight >2.Bittersweet >3.Smoke Gets In Your Eyes >4.Carrickfergus >5.The Only Face >6.September Song >7.You Do Something To Me >8.Falling In Love Again >9.Just One Of Those Things >10.Jealous Guy >11.Let's Stick Together >12.Do The Strand >13.As Time Goes By > >I think a few of these are good enough to make it to ASSH2 (or whatever the >next >tree is called?) but I'll leave that to the 'arbiters of good taste' who >labour >to get us the best stuff. In any case, knowing you Avalon types, I added >an >extra $100,000 to my life insurance policy while this tape is in my >possession. > >Noam > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- >To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail >majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:17:56 -0800 From: "eman96" Subject: [AVALON] Clash City Rockers! Address are in. 3 Yanks and 1 Brit won the Clash CD. I'll send them out in the next few days gang, enjoy. e - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:25:09 -0800 From: Betsy Fowler Subject: [AVALON] Noirishness/LA/Prison ship Lots of fruitful images from Heather Buch, Gareth McGinley and others on Mamouna, noir atmosphere and the El Lay experience, all influences which we can detect in Ferry's work for the past 20+ years, and currently with the ATGB CD and tour. Gareth, I think Puxley said "prison ship" (not "frizzen ship") and he was referring more to the Ferry-Hall relationship than to LA, but your inferences are all the same still apposite. All of which makes one wish that Bryan had somehow been able to project these images visually (more often than he has so far), as well as musically. - -Betsy - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:38:55 -0500 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Noirishness/LA/Prison ship I would love to see a film (noir or otherwise) about Ferry's years with Jerry, but alas, it will probably never happen (any aspiring independent filmakers out there?). Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Betsy Fowler (epfowler@well.com) wrote: > > All of which makes one wish that Bryan had somehow been able to project > these images visually (more often than he has so far), as well as > musically. > > -Betsy > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:36:11 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] what is "camp"? So then you haven't seen the pictures? Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: >exaggerating something to the point where it becomes almost too ridiculous"? But even > the glam-est Roxy wasn't *ridiculous*, was it? > Thanks, > Crystal > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:23:19 -0800 (PST) From: Irene Adler Subject: Re: [AVALON] LOSER BIGGEST LOSER OF ALL: E MAN - --- eman96 wrote: > Loser: Jeff Kay. > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering > numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:57:49 -0500 From: Jeff Kay Subject: Re: [AVALON] LOSER Considering the source, bravo! eman96 wrote: > Loser: Jeff Kay. > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:42:27 -0800 From: "eman96" Subject: [AVALON] Winners of the CLASH. CLASH Winners: My assistant sent out your CD's this afternoon. Enjoy, e - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:48:10 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] last night's radio show From: "James James" > When the songs are up, I will post the address, login and password. Should > be soon. Excellent - thank you - H. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:51:55 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The L.A. Years From: gareth >" With his glamour, good looks, and upper class pretentions falling into this > type of lifestyle was probably the most inevitable thing that could have > happened to Ferry." Hey! No discussion of possible drug use, remember!!? - H. LA=Nowhere - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:51:11 -0500 From: ecwoods@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] what is "camp"? Well, yeah, but I'd stop short of calling them "ridiculous." Maybe it's just a respect thing, my looking back on heroes or whatever. If I'd seen them back then, maybe they would've looked more ridiculous. Wait . . . I just had an image of the drummer in the Tarzan getup. Hmmmmmm. You have a point. : - ) Crystal - ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Frechette > So then you haven't seen the pictures? > > Will > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > >exaggerating something to the point where it becomes almost too > ridiculous"? But even > > the glam-est Roxy wasn't *ridiculous*, was it? > > Thanks, > > Crystal > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > > majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:51:29 -0800 From: Ida M Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ordinary Decent Criminal Is this a different version of Mother Of Pearl being used on that soundtrack? Or, is it the same version as we have on Stranded? > << As someone posted earlier, the soundtrack album containing Bryan's version > of "Mother Of Pearl" is "Ordinary Decent Criminal" and this is released in > the UK on 13/3/00. >> - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:35:25 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] LA dreaming I write all this in the context of my question about Ferry's L.A. experience because I think that to really understand and love Los Angeles, one must understand it's seedy, noir side, and Ferry seems to understand and capture that well in these latest albums. I think Jerry recollected that he didn't quite feel at home in L.A. Nobody ever does, that's part of L.A.'s charm. But it's not until you leave this city, feeling altogether disgusted with its kitschy, "pop" side, that you become aware of it's corrupt, tawdry beauty and the degenerate truth behind it all, just like the truth behind the women in the Chandler novels. This discovery (for me) is part of the cities romance. I lived in LA or should I say Hollywood for two years duing the '70's. Yes it was cheap and tawdry, especially along Hollywood Boulevard, but it was an expereince for me that I will never forget. I loved it. It will always be my second home. I will go back for a visit later in the year just to see if it is still as seedy as I remember it. Well at least the parts that did not burn after the Rodney King verdict. Jas - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:49:51 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Midnight Special 1975 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:48:55 GMT From: "gareth mc ginley" Subject: [AVALON] Video footage Also in amongst the video footage that I received (aside from "Live in Japan") were two classic Roxy performances. The first is "The Midnight Special" from 1974 in which Roxy performed three tracks (Out Of The Blue, Thrill Of It All, and A Really Good Time). As far as I'm aware these were the highest profile of the Roxy performances in the U.S. Yes it was and this is how I first saw Roxy. The memory of that show played in my mind for a very long time. I feel bad that I did not see them live when they toured during that period. I'm glad that someone taped it. Hopefully I will get to see it again soon ( hello Martino!). It was in my estimation one of the best segments they ever had on that show. The other standouts being David Bowie's 1984 Show ( my favorite), Blondie in 1979 and the whole show featuring the Cars. JAS - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:52:37 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ordinary Decent Criminal This is a new and re-recorded solo version. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Ida M Miller [SMTP:idafan@home.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:51 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ordinary Decent Criminal > > Is this a different version of Mother Of Pearl being used on that > soundtrack? Or, is it the same version as we have on Stranded? > > > > << As someone posted earlier, the soundtrack album containing Bryan's > version > > of "Mother Of Pearl" is "Ordinary Decent Criminal" and this is released > in > > the UK on 13/3/00. >> > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #80 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest