From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #66 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, February 19 2000 Volume 05 : Number 066 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) [Joce] RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) [Kick] [AVALON] The Hat [Bahi Para ] RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) [Joce] Re: [AVALON] Tour Dates South Africa ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <] Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... [Irene Adler ] Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... [Kicki Gustafsson ] [AVALON] RE: Tour Dates South Africa ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Concertgebouw - Amsterdam [f2hb@casema.net] Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... [Irene Adler ] Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... [Irene Adler Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) Martin and I recently dined- he in resplendent beauty spot me in skin tight rubber (naturally) The make-up smudged, the corsette chaffed, a mere rehearsal for Paris. Maitresse, les restaintes!!!!! Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: RODEISLRED@aol.com [mailto:RODEISLRED@aol.com] Sent: 17 February 2000 17:25 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference) Martin, I an well aware of Ferry's 'lighter side' and thank you for yet another windy post (rectal splinter?)--more proof that you are to Ferry what Gardenburger is to White Castle (another obscure reference). One would have to be a fool not to see that Ferry's work has grown darker and darker (and--perhaps unfortunately--much less humorous) over the years. - --Red PS. Does anybody else see Martin outfitted in a white wig, powdered makeup and beauty mark while scribbling these missives with a feathered quill--or is it just my coffee? In a message dated 2/17/00 9:23:32 AM, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: << I think you're more right than wrong, and you've certainly stumbled upon a fascinating thread. Pain, or parody of pain ? A little of each I'd suggest at the risk of rectal splinters ZZZZzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:16:07 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) >Martin and I recently dined- he in resplendent beauty spot me in skin tight >rubber (naturally) >The make-up smudged, the corsette chaffed, a mere rehearsal for Paris. >Maitresse, les restaintes!!!!! > >Jocelyn Jealous, moi? Bah! *pretending hard* Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:30:35 +0000 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] The Hat JObinv01@aol.com wrote: >P.S. The album "Hats" by Scottish band The Blue Nile is a must. Very true. Glad to find that you like that. Its predecessor, A Walk Across the Rooftops, is also special. And the song Tomorrow Morning, from Peace at Last. B - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:32:59 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) Whilst removing the gag momentarily, he breathes, "have you ever noticed the melodic similariry between A Song For Europe and While My Guitar gently Weeps Maitresse?", shut up and do the dishes pip sqeek!! Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Kicki Gustafsson [mailto:kicki.gustafsson@op.se] Sent: 18 February 2000 21:16 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Act, starring Martin Minnelli (obscure reference ) >Martin and I recently dined- he in resplendent beauty spot me in skin tight >rubber (naturally) >The make-up smudged, the corsette chaffed, a mere rehearsal for Paris. >Maitresse, les restaintes!!!!! > >Jocelyn Jealous, moi? Bah! *pretending hard* Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:37:34 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tour Dates South Africa - ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Aan: Verzonden: vrijdag 18 februari 2000 18:59 Onderwerp: [AVALON] Tour Dates South Africa > Bryan has added dates in South Africa on his website 4 days after the London > show. There is a month gap between Paris and Portsmouth, there are possibly > more dates in UK in this gap.......but who knows where or when. > > > Regards > J.O'B. Russia too - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:59:16 -0800 (PST) From: Irene Adler Subject: Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... no eman, you know you are a total loser freak when you do that. So I guess you do that! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - --- eman96 wrote: > You know you are a Roxy fan when... > > you play Do The Strand, full volume, while miming > the whole thing, > including your own rendition of the twisted in pain > horse face > for the "Guernica" (sp) line. > > e > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering > numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:00:48 -0800 (PST) From: Irene Adler Subject: Re: [AVALON] mystery poet that would be monkee boy and he is not an AMATEUR!!! HE IS A MASTER POET!! - --- ecwoods@mindspring.com wrote: > I accidentally erased a message I had intended to > keep. Someone was writing > in response to all the talk of "Ferry as poet" and > mentioned that he was an > amateur poet. I write too, and I would love to > "talk shop" if you're up for > that. > > Crystal > ecwoods@mindspring.com > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering > numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:18:55 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... >no eman, you know you are a total loser freak when you >do that. So I guess you do that! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha >--- eman96 wrote: Charmin, Irene, charming. The word freak seems to reflect your own personality more than eman's though. /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:21:13 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Songs on Viva >Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:42:27 +0100 >From: Kicki Gustafsson >Subject: [AVALON] Songs on Viva > >Someone recently wrote about the songs on Viva and suggested that Phil >Manzanera chose them. >Apparently that's true. >The selection was the best of a not very good bunch of stuff they had >available at the time. > >/Kicki G > Phil has stated that he has a copy of every show Roxy ever did. (He claims some 350 now) By the time Viva was put together, I would guess he had at least 100+ hours of material to work with. The material on the '75 Tour CD we passed out last year has some of the best performances I`ve ever heard with Mother of Pearl and Out Of The Blue absolute, kick-ass standouts. I don`t even listen to the studio versions anymore. I think the material chosen for Viva are excellent performances...all of them. But Viva is still a mystery to me. If memory serves me right, the Fool Proof (takrl 1977) boot, which made up most of the '75 tour material, was released before Viva because I remember being terribly disappointed with Viva after hearing the boot first. But what`s really strange is that just before Out Of The Blue, Ferry announces that, "......and if you`re lucky, you`ll be on our next album which is a live album being recorded here tonight." (btw, the bootlegger left this in as a kind of inside joke that was lost to most people). Would Ferry make this statement in regards to Viva? I don`t think so. In fact, Viva is nothing more than a legitimate bootleg itself and a badly done one at that. Just 8 songs thrown together in no chronological order with no liner notes or anything. And if that wern`t bad enough, the sound quality was terrible compared to the bootleg material. I remember recording both on tape to create a kind of complete show and when you got to the Viva material, it was like someone suddenly threw a blanket over the speakers. This in itself is no big surprise. Trade Mark of Quality (TMQ), who released this bootleg on their The Amazing Kornyphone Record Label (TAKRL) were hailed by fans, critics and the music media for their superior quality releases.* But the sound quality of Viva was really bad. I think Roxy had plans for a complete concert release but for some reason, the plug was pulled. I mean, this was 1976, the year of the "live" album. Kiss, Frampton, Lynyrd Skynyrd, just to name a few, went from obscure nobodies to rock icons over night with their live albums and live bootlegs had reached their zenith and yet, Roxy got Viva. This was possibly Roxy`s real chance to reach the American market and change their history but for reasons we`ll never know or even understand, it just didn`t happen. Go figure. Gene *Both Rolling Stone and Esquire came just short at times of suggesting TMQ releases over the record company`s release. This finally resulted in Warner Bro. records threatening to pull all ads if they ever spoke of bootlegs other than in a negative way again. Here we have Roxy`s parent co. threatening these magazines for praising a quality product while putting out shoddy crap like Viva. Why does the phrase "parasitic bottom-feeding hypocrites" come to mind?) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:47:02 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: [AVALON] RE: Tour Dates South Africa >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:59:12 EST >From: JObinv01@aol.com >Subject: [AVALON] Tour Dates South Africa > >Bryan has added dates in South Africa on his website 4 days after the London >show. There is a month gap between Paris and Portsmouth, there are possibly >more dates in UK in this gap.......but who knows where or when. > > >Regards >J.O'B. It`s a sad state of affairs when Ferry chooses to tour S. Africa but not the southern U.S. I feel ripped off! Gene - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:31:31 +0100 From: f2hb@casema.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concertgebouw - Amsterdam "van Lammeren, Anton" wrote: >Hi all, > >We've been there. Seen it all. >It was wonderful. 4 Avalonians (Han, Andy, Gerrit and me) got together >before the show, at least one more in the crowd (Frank). Thanks you guys, sorry to have missed you at the 'pre-meeting' Anyways it was great to met you afterwards at the Artiesteningang. >Completely mesmerized by his performance last night. >21:00 sharp, the show begins. Julia Thornton harp solo is immediately >enchanting. Enjoyed the show, was very *surprising* and *fresh* ..and of course, as always may have taken longer... And there they were...Chance Meeting,Sunset,Carrickfergus,Smoke... >The weird thing about this concert is that you see people in their thirties, >forties and fifties; and almost all behave as if they were at least twenty >years young. Magic! Agree with you there Anton, 'cause I sat 23rd row, could very well follow the show and the audience as well. Sometimes the place looked as it was at shambles...the following moment one could hear the well-known needle and one time even a GSM... Yes the party is goin' well...everyone is here...have you a future? no noo my age doesn't matter still... >Then it is off to the back, at the Artiesteningang. A bunch of people is >waiting. The word goes that two by two we may come in!!! It will take >another 20 to 30 minutes or so, but then indeed, it's true! Pleased to meet Han, Andy and last but not least Gerrit IR Yes, Gerrit it's me: 2HB from way back '93/'94? when first met on this List, subscribed under my former compagny though, but again, great to meet you guys. As I was told by Han tonight(friday,tnx for the long call Han) you(Gerrit) have a Ferry/Sylvian URL as well? The count starts: two in - two out...the row slowly moves up...minutes became ages for my friend, as her feets slowly cooled down too...peptalked her into Mamouna-tour, that it will be worth the waiting, I'm sure... Chk,chk, double chk if everyone got his thingies handy for the Big Moment... no cam with us though..bleh! But next time is the best time...you know what I mean Han, promised. (maybe even digital, pump that disk full with kB's) >In an extremly friendly way he poses with everyone for a photograph, shakes >a hand, puts his arms around your shoulder, has a word with you. >Patricia has a wonderful photograph with a silver marker pen: "to Patricia" >he writes! >She is over the moon!!! From a distance we could follow everything what happens inside and Bryan indeed showed I never saw this before...posed very funny in front of every one's cam...and was laughing and smiling all over the place. LE MOMENT SUPREME!: Chance Meeting: It's our turn, after two of my other friends came out, waving with their BF autographed thingies...and smiling to their ears of course... "Hello Bryan, how are you?...welcome back in Holland" as I spelled my name "Fine, thank you Frank and you?" As we both shook hands, I introduced my friend, who couldn't bring out one bloody word as she melted...(it's his eyes, she always tells me afterwards) Bryan reaches hands to her too, as he took her ATGB Booklet to sign: "Ah...Ireen...It's a lovely name, I like that name...I should consider making a song with that name..." While I sang Bryan "Ireen, goodnight Ireen" he laughed hard and I handed my ATGB CD. "You know what, Bryan...I always wanted to do this...and after more than 25 years you owe me this" I told him. "May I?" "And what is it?"...before Bryan could bring out another word I bent over" "This (((((((((Bryan)))))))))" It seems like an endless HUG... *I EMBRACED MY HERO!* "Well thank you...that's OK...thank you...thank you..." Bryan replied. Ireen stand behind me as the Event took place and still couldn't bring out one a single word... "Thank you for all those years, call this The Hug for the New Millennium" ...and Bryan had another big laugh... While shaking hands again...I throw him my goodbye: "See you next time, pass my hello to your kids and Lucy as well, bye..." Bryan: "Thank you...bye...bye" I headed to the doors...backwards walking ... *Meeting my Hero IR every time is not a disappointment at all* >15 hours of touring to Graz that night. But they may sleep in the Bus. > >Tara! > >- Anton van Lammeren Yeah, Han,Gerrit,Andy and Anton...we couldn't stay any longer..we were in a bit of rush as we haven't had dindin for the whole evening yet. Hope to meet you all again soon too. - -Frank @ f2HB (***Finally made it 2 Hug Bryan***) P.S. Sat.19 feb 03:19 AM here..while these last sentence roll of my keyboard...this message written in portions as off Friday...FEVER, couldn't concentrate at all...Grey Lagoons - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:46:59 -0800 (PST) From: Irene Adler Subject: Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... Kicki, I guess you are a sucker for egotistical losers with limited schooling and a total lack in taste. HOCKEY FRILLA!!!! - --- Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > >no eman, you know you are a total loser freak when > you > >do that. So I guess you do that! Ha ha ha ha ha ha > ha > >--- eman96 wrote: > > Charmin, Irene, charming. > The word freak seems to reflect your own personality > more than eman's though. > > /Kicki G > > --------------------------- > Kicki Gustafsson > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal > homepage) > http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan > Ferry-site) > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering > numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:02:28 -0500 (EST) From: davdmock@America.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... Is this sort of thing really necessary? Kicki's never been anything but nice to anyone! >Kicki, I guess you are a sucker for egotistical losers >with limited schooling and a total lack in taste. >HOCKEY FRILLA!!!! Cheers, David DavdMock@America.Net CPL593H! -Bryan Ferry, 1972 Have a look at my web site... http://america.net/~davdmock/ - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:07:37 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: [AVALON] Powdered wigs I have a picture of Lucy done up just so ... with Bryan in a lavender suit, next to her (party time wasting). - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: RODEISLRED@aol.com >PS. Does anybody else see Martin outfitted in a white wig, powdered makeup >and beauty mark ... - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:19:29 -0800 (PST) From: Irene Adler Subject: Re: [AVALON] You know you are a Roxy fan when... Kicki has been anything but nice to me- by the way are you MOCKING me? - --- davdmock@America.net wrote: > Is this sort of thing really necessary? Kicki's > never been anything but > nice to anyone! > > >Kicki, I guess you are a sucker for egotistical > losers > >with limited schooling and a total lack in taste. > >HOCKEY FRILLA!!!! > Cheers, > > David > DavdMock@America.Net > > CPL593H! > -Bryan Ferry, 1972 > > Have a look at my web site... > > http://america.net/~davdmock/ > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering > numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:11:49 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] Songs on Viva In a message dated 2/18/0 7:31:46 PM, Our Beloved Leader wrote: <Manzanera chose them.>> I remember an interview in which Ferry said that the tracks were voted on, with each band member choosing his favourites. (Presumably all the many bass players were left out, perhaps the violinist as well...) Then Gene wrote: <> Are there any of these left? I have been looking for years for a "Country Life " tour boot. That's when I first saw Roxy, and it is still a favourite show. PLease let me know if you have a spare... Thanks! Andrew (under 13 inches of snow) in Evanston. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #66 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest