From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #62 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, February 17 2000 Volume 05 : Number 062 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Dark Shadows ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] Mclaren's sacrilege ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] The Musical Revolution ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Great moments [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Great moments (long post!) ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] The Musical Revolution [Peter Dewey ] Re: [AVALON] L.A. is my lady ( not!) + video contents question ["Tim Kend] RE: [AVALON] New cd tree, you can order! [Frederic DECLERCQ ] RE: [AVALON] The Great Pretender ["Ujvary, Richard A." ] [AVALON] OH Yeah (misheard on the radio) ["Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dark Shadows Red. If you get to see APS (and I'm saving copies for you and Collen) you'll get a feel for a lighter side of the Cool Ruler. Really. - ---------- >From: RODEISLRED > We're uh, talking about BRYAN FERRY, right??? > --red > > In a message dated 2/16/00 10:21:52 PM, hpropes@ureach.com writes: > > << He is not a "dark" or > "morose" person (this is the impression I get from the > interviews, and I mean it as a compliment to him since I often > consider moroseness self-indulgent) >> > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:09:57 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An act - ---------- >From: Heather Buch > I think his ability to "act" is a credit to his talent as a > performer and an artist. A great artist is able to create not > only from autobiographical experiences, but from a sense of > empathy with other human experiences that may be removed from > his own. I think that this ability is part of what makes Ferry > great. He is not a "dark" or > "morose" person (this is the impression I get from the > interviews, and I mean it as a compliment to him since I often > consider moroseness self-indulgent), yet he is able to assume > that persona at times. This proves he is a empathetic and > versatile artist, and I *like* that. But even if I didn't, I'd > say so! Just because an artist is interesting enough to me to > cause me to join a mailing list doesn't mean he is above my > criticism. I think you're more right than wrong, and you've certainly stumbled upon a fascinating thread. Pain, or parody of pain ? A little of each I'd suggest at the risk of rectal splinters from fence sitting. Whilst I think " As she walks in the room (then you know, why your date says it's late time to go") is really quite tragic and clearly heartfelt, compare that with, say, the wonderfully kitsch franglais emoting in Song For Europe which I suggest owes more to his love of 30s Hollywood than any lovelorn backpacking in his University hols. As a (strictly amateur) poet I know how the trough of despond brings forth the muse. And sometimes one can conjour that miserable mind-set in order to deliver. Thinking back on lost love and so forth. Drinking too much, and the ensuing downswing, can similarly catalyse a state of contrition and despair that lends itself to a state of creative self-pity. But is that an act ? Depends on your definitions. Martino - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:21:48 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Mclaren's sacrilege >>> "Will Frechette" 02/16 6:25 pm >>> >Spit on Malcolm Mclaren. Sacrilege. How do you mean sacrilege? I mean, he promoted the punk ethic, he'd appreciate it. Or do you mean that it's not enough and that he deserves a good kicking? Is you kick strong enough? Like a foot in the groin......OI!!!!! SimonG (complete with 14 hole Doc Martins and a bright green mohican) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:36:33 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] The Musical Revolution I would quite gladly sacrifice the rest for the life of Kenny G (and Michael Bolton, after all they do share the same wig, so how could either go on without it). Actually, while we're at it, stick the Lighthouse Family, The Corrs and Simply Red in there. SimonG (feeling frivolous) >>> Noam Bronstein 02/16 11:12 pm >>> > In a message dated 2/16/0 10:44:22 AM, reecey wrote: > 'first up against the musical wall when the revolution comes' type Celine Dion, Cher, Bryan Adams, Bon Jovi, Jim Steinman, Tina Turner, and Michael Bolton are lined up, ready. Good choices. Let's not forget Mariah Carey and Kenny G. Not to mention Whitney Houston, David Foster and Courtney Love. I'd throw Johnny Halliday in too (I'd never even heard of him 'til I had to watch him for most of 9 hrs on an Air France flight). Thanks, Noam ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:54:14 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great moments >In a message dated 2/16/00 6:41:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, >kicki.gustafsson@op.se writes: > ><< When I started to cry when Ferry came on stage 1979. I was very embarrased > when it happened, and it only lasted for like 15 seconds, but these days I > think it was very sweet. To think that I was so overcome with emotion! >> > >Kicki, > >Only in '79? What about the last concert? I have seen Ferry 4 times >in concert, and every time he came on stage I started to cry. He is >the only one who can do this to me.... I was a bit tearyeyed in 82 and during Chance meeting on this current tour, but nothing like 79. > >Another great moment was finding this Avalonia message board, >and just as great - your website! > >Heidi > Thank you, sweetie! Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:05:14 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great moments (long post!) Can I share these too? >>> Kicki Gustafsson 02/16 11:33 pm >>> Ok, my greatest Roxy/Ferry-moments, in no particular order: I just read through what I had written - had to smile :-) /Kicki G - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:11:20 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great moments (long post!) >Can I share these too? > Of course, dearheart, snuggle in with me....! Kicki >>>> Kicki Gustafsson 02/16 11:33 pm >>> >Ok, my greatest Roxy/Ferry-moments, in no particular order: > >I just read through what I had written - had to smile :-) > >/Kicki G > > > > > > >-------------------- >To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail >majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:08:27 +0100 From: Frederic DECLERCQ Subject: [AVALON] Brussels gig on Belgian TV Hi, The Belgian National TV recorded the Brussels gig and are going to broadcast it in April but they didn't tell the exact date. During thye show in Antwerp, we put a paper in front of Bry asking him A song for Europe. He looked at it and made a sign with his hands and face telling something like "My God, I can't sing that now or I don't remember the lyrics or my band doesn't know it". At least he looked at it and showed a reaction. The new album is announced by the Belgian papers for September... Followed by a Ferry Tour. I didn't know that this tour was taking him even to South Africa! CIAo, Fred - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:55:40 +0000 From: Peter Dewey Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Musical Revolution Well, I'm ready for a flamefest, but I'm not so sure Jim Steinman should be on Reecey's list. In a mock-operatic way, played loud, SOME of his output (not just Meatloaf...) isn't entirely bad! As you can see, I still have one foot on the fence. - -- Peter Dewey - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:17:35 -0000 From: S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] New cd tree, you can order! hi han i've asked simon for a copy of the golders green gig. could you copy me some of your superb artwork for same please at your leisure. many thanks ! steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest [SMTP:snijders.geest@hetnet.nl] > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 10:09 AM > To: avalon > Subject: [AVALON] New cd tree, you can order! > > Dear Avalonians, > I've made two masters for another cd-tree > Both are near cdquality, both BBC broadcastings. > I made a cover for them. > I have sent them to Simon Galloway for UK distribution and David for USA, > Canada. > > The people outside UK, Canada and USA can order a copy now: > Sent me a private E-mail with in the headline "cd-order", please write > your > address in the mail. > Costs: blanc-cd and shippingcosts. For two cd's that's in Europe that > will > be: 15 dutchguilders, 15 DM, 5 pounds, 9 dollar. > For one cd and shipping cost in Europe it will be: 10 dutchguilders, 10 > DM, > 3pounds, 6 dollar. > If your not living in europe I'll let you now what the shipping costs are. > > The Golders Green concert, I called it "The only Face" > 1 The way you look tonight > 2 Love Me Or Leave Me > 3 Smoke gets in your eyes > 4 Chance Meeting > 5 Where or When > 6 The only face > 7 You do something > 8 Falling in love > 9 Just one of those things > 10 Avalon > 11 Jealous Guy > 12 Let's stick together > 13 Love is the drug > 14 As Time Goes By > 15 Do the strand. > > Flesh and Blood tour, Wembley. > I called it 'Eight Miles High'. There is a bootleg of this concert called > 'The Best Is Yet To Come" but sound quality of this Eight Miles High is > much > better. > 1 The Bogus Man > 2 Trash > 3 Both Ends Burning > 4 Rain Rain Rain > 5 Flesh and Blood > 6 Oy Yeah > 7 Song for Europe > 8 My Only Love > 9 Eight Miles High > > Cheers > Han > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 04:28:56 -0800 From: "eman96" Subject: [AVALON] stingy colleen is FUNNY. e - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:42:45 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] L.A. is my lady ( not!) + video contents question You're right, Bahi, that's it! And wasn't he interviewed on the roof of a building overlooking the smog-ridden city? ( I know L.A. and detest it.) Next time I'm back in England I'll go through my videos and see if I can find it. Perhaps it could go on the next Avalonia video if there should ever be one. >Not sure whether it was the same programme but they appeared together >once on a thing about LA. While McLaren chatted to camera, a lanky >figure in a bright blue jacket sloped its way across the scene in the >distance. There was a brief Ferry interview, too - bright blue >jacket, shades - but I don't remember the two men appearing on camera >together. I think it was a Tube Special, or a Whistle Test extra in >1986; are we talking about the same thing? Didn't keep my copy. > >B I 'd like a to repeat a query I made yesterday but to which no-one replied. I have a UK copy of BRYAN FERRY AND ROXY MUSIC: THE VIDEO COLLECTION, but I've been in America for most of the last two years and I haven't seen it in that time. My memory may be failing me, but I don't remember a video for DON'T WANT TO KNOW being on it. I remember vids for MAMOUNA and YOUR PAINTED SMILE from the same album very clearly. But the box for the American release of the collection - and I haven't bought it yet, so I'm only talking about the listing on the package - puts DON'T WANT TO KNOW as number 23 of 24 selections. So does the American release include extra material, or am I just remembering wrong??? Tim K. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:32:50 +0100 From: Frederic DECLERCQ Subject: RE: [AVALON] New cd tree, you can order! Congratulations to all the people who, at one level or another, worked on Golders Green CD!!! Fantastic sound, great artwork!!! Thanks - -----Original Message----- From: S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk [SMTP:S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk] Sent: jeudi 17 février 2000 13:18 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] New cd tree, you can order! hi han i've asked simon for a copy of the golders green gig. could you copy me some of your superb artwork for same please at your leisure. many thanks ! steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest [SMTP:snijders.geest@hetnet.nl] > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 10:09 AM > To: avalon > Subject: [AVALON] New cd tree, you can order! > > Dear Avalonians, > I've made two masters for another cd-tree > Both are near cdquality, both BBC broadcastings. > I made a cover for them. > I have sent them to Simon Galloway for UK distribution and David for USA, > Canada. > > The people outside UK, Canada and USA can order a copy now: > Sent me a private E-mail with in the headline "cd-order", please write > your > address in the mail. > Costs: blanc-cd and shippingcosts. For two cd's that's in Europe that > will > be: 15 dutchguilders, 15 DM, 5 pounds, 9 dollar. > For one cd and shipping cost in Europe it will be: 10 dutchguilders, 10 > DM, > 3pounds, 6 dollar. > If your not living in europe I'll let you now what the shipping costs are. > > The Golders Green concert, I called it "The only Face" > 1 The way you look tonight > 2 Love Me Or Leave Me > 3 Smoke gets in your eyes > 4 Chance Meeting > 5 Where or When > 6 The only face > 7 You do something > 8 Falling in love > 9 Just one of those things > 10 Avalon > 11 Jealous Guy > 12 Let's stick together > 13 Love is the drug > 14 As Time Goes By > 15 Do the strand. > > Flesh and Blood tour, Wembley. > I called it 'Eight Miles High'. There is a bootleg of this concert called > 'The Best Is Yet To Come" but sound quality of this Eight Miles High is > much > better. > 1 The Bogus Man > 2 Trash > 3 Both Ends Burning > 4 Rain Rain Rain > 5 Flesh and Blood > 6 Oy Yeah > 7 Song for Europe > 8 My Only Love > 9 Eight Miles High > > Cheers > Han > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:10:51 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Musical Revolution Simon Galloway wrote: > > I would quite gladly sacrifice the rest for the life of Kenny G (and Michael Bolton, after all they do share the same wig, so how could either go on without it). > I nominate Billy Joel. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:14:10 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] the van gogh in mr. ferry heather wrote: >Colleen and Mark, > >Please see my reply to Marlena K's message entitled "AN ACT" > >kiss kiss, > >Heather so, are you and kicki the same person, then? come on ... it's an alius, right?! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:15:03 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] pay no attention to that man behind the curtain Dear Colleen: Well said. I believe that Mr. Ferry is the sum of his experiences and more (He is dynamic). That is a large part of my fascination for the man; his work is a small porthole to his psyche. I feel honored that he shares a very personal portion of himself in such a beautiful way to the world. Bryan Ferry's work certainly pings upon my soul, and I love him for that ability. kbp - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:38:48 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Great Pretender Dears, Crystal and Gareth: You both have made very relevant, well expressed, and valid observations. The list is rocking great right on this thread, love it! kbp - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:54:27 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Great Pretender Boy I missed the "Klatu barada nikto" ( spell checker won't help here) bit from the 50's movie in the song! Yes, underneath the surface was Bryan doing a little social commentary on how we've got to handle our human relationships before something very very bad happens? Is it so bad that he has to ask "aliens" for help!!? What a nifty take on the song.........Gort should be proud! Richo - -----Original Message----- From: Bahi Para [mailto:bahi@macnet.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 8:43 PM To: avalon@smoe.org; avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Great Pretender I once asked on this list about the other snippets of dialogue that are sampled on Rescue Me and was told (was it Robert Fedder who mentioned it?) that they're from the sci-fi film The Day The Earth Stood Still, which I can now highly recommend. It's very Ferry in the way in which it works. Under that slightly lightweight surface... If you haven't yet noticed the snippets in the song, listen to the clip below before giving Rescure Me another spin. Wav file clip: B - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:01:00 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) - --- pip pip wrote: compare that with, say, the wonderfully kitsch franglais emoting in Song For Europe which I suggest owes more to his love of 30s Hollywood than any lovelorn backpacking in his University hols. - ---- Please Martin, between you and HB you're in danger of shattering my entire world here! You know I have high regard for your opinions but the above is pure abomination, man. I want "dark" and "morose" damnit. If I wanted kitsch, conjure and goth I'd be on a Bowie list. Redeem yourselves before it's too late. Noam ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:19:28 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) >--- pip pip wrote: > compare that with, say, the wonderfully kitsch franglais emoting >in Song For Europe which I suggest owes more to his love of 30s >Hollywood than any lovelorn backpacking in his University hols. >---- > >Please Martin, between you and HB you're in danger of shattering my >entire world here! You know I have high regard for your opinions but >the above is pure abomination, man. > >I want "dark" and "morose" damnit. If I wanted kitsch, conjure and >goth I'd be on a Bowie list. > >Redeem yourselves before it's too late. > >Noam > Noam, I have to tell you: Sometimes I just love you! Is that okay for you? /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:26:21 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Noam Bronstein wrote: > --- pip pip wrote: > compare that with, say, the wonderfully kitsch franglais emoting > in Song For Europe which I suggest owes more to his love of 30s > Hollywood than any lovelorn backpacking in his University hols. > ---- [...] > I want "dark" and "morose" damnit. If I wanted kitsch, conjure and > goth I'd be on a Bowie list. Being "dark" and "morose" doesn't _ipso facto_ rule out also having a sense of humor. Colleen (speaking from experience) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:01:57 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) noam writeth: >--- pip pip wrote: > compare that with, say, the wonderfully kitsch franglais emoting in >Song For Europe which I suggest owes more to his love of 30s Hollywood than >any lovelorn backpacking in his University hols. >---- > >Please Martin, between you and HB you're in danger of shattering my >entire world here! You know I have high regard for your opinions but >the above is pure abomination, man. > >I want "dark" and "morose" damnit. If I wanted kitsch, conjure and >goth I'd be on a Bowie list. > >Redeem yourselves before it's too late. yes ... 'emoting' ... please - complete poppycockup. genuflect before the ferry altar and inflict 100 lashes upon yourself, whilst saying your penance. for shame, for shame! nothing but horse patooey, say i ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:14:42 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: [AVALON] ATGB concert radio broadcast Of particular interest to Canadians and U.S. bordertowners. Get your FM antennae ready for the ATBG concert broadcast next Saturday Feb.26th. *Many thanks* to James James who brought this to our attention. Here's what I've been able to find out browsing CBC's horribly disjointed web site. The concert will be on the Saturday evening "Radiosonic" program on CBC-FM, now commonly known as CBC Radio 2. The main site for info is http://www.radiosonic.com/index.html The show runs from 7 pm to 12 am EST (Eastern Standard, that's GMT -5), I've e-mailed them for clues on _when_ in that 5 hours the Ferry part will be, and I'll let you know if they reply. Next week you can click on the "This Week" frame and maybe they'll have more info. Click on the "Show Info" frame for a list of CBC FM stations (Americans at least in Buffalo, Detroit, Seattle should have a good shot at picking up these frequencies in rich stereophonic sound). Click on the "Audio" frame for info on Internet RealAudio simulcast. Personally I wouldn't rely on this method for taping though. I'll be taping from FM and if one of us succeeds in getting a decent quality tape or CDR, this can be added to the Avalonia pool of goodies. p.s. I believe this is the Nov.9 Toronto concert. cheers, Noam ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:20:26 -0500 From: ecwoods@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Great Pretender You make a good case, but my heart still thinks otherwise. I mean, his methods are so poetic. He uses wonderful imagery and has better economy of words than do many other lyricists. But granted, he's no Sylvia Plath. Crystal - ----- Original Message ----- From: Frederic > Sorry but Ferry is not really a poet! Even if some lyrics are great. What he > does best (and in this he is a Maestro) is matching lyrics to > music notes, creating a global atmosphere. Very few artists reach that level. > For my final study work (or whatever you call that, I wanted to translate all > the lyric to French but 1/ the lyrics were not rich enough to make a > literature-typed study > 2/ without the atmosphere of the songs, it is very hard to imagine the > impact of the words and sentences. > > Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: ecwoods@mindspring.com [SMTP:ecwoods@mindspring.com] > Sent: mardi 15 février 2000 23:14 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Great Pretender > > To me, Ferry is a poet. And he does with his lyrics the same thing many > poets do: wrap a raw, intensely personal emotion in layers of words that > could apply to anyone who reads it, making it more universal and less > blatantly personal. So some of the song's lyrics are probably not > autobiographical, but the core emotions are. Disentangling the core from > the wrapping, I think, would be impossible for anyone, save Ferry himself, > to do. > > Crystal > > ----- Original Message ----- Yeah, 'The Only Face,' 'Your Painted Smile,' > 'Running Wild,' 'Just Another > > High,' 'Same Old Scene,' 'More Than This,' 'Chance Meeting,' 'Help Me,' > > 'Don't Want To Know,' all Las Vegas schmaltz. An act. Right. > > > > --Red > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > -------------------- > To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail > majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:04:10 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) And I.... love... you, Kristina. (ok this is the part where all Avalonia breaks into a rousing choral medley of Celine Dion-Mariah Carey-Michael Bolton songs!) ;) > Noam, I have to tell you: Sometimes I just love you! > Is that okay for you? > > /Kicki G > > ------------------------ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:13:41 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) noam wrote: >And I.... love... you, Kristina. > >(ok this is the part where all Avalonia breaks into a rousing choral >medley of Celine Dion-Mariah Carey-Michael Bolton songs!) > >;) > > > Noam, I have to tell you: Sometimes I just love you! > > Is that okay for you? > > > > /Kicki G so, no 'homo-erotic' tendencies creeping in there, eh?! what - no andy mackay 'packaging' comments?! how very, very sad ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:24:50 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) >noam wrote: > >>And I.... love... you, Kristina. >> >>(ok this is the part where all Avalonia breaks into a rousing choral >>medley of Celine Dion-Mariah Carey-Michael Bolton songs!) >> >>;) >> >> > Noam, I have to tell you: Sometimes I just love you! >> > Is that okay for you? >> > >> > /Kicki G > >so, no 'homo-erotic' tendencies creeping in there, eh?! what - no andy >mackay 'packaging' comments?! how very, very sad ... > >peaces/ms Is that a saxophone I see in your frontpocket, Noam-dear, or are you just happy to see me? /Kicki P.S Satisfied, Mark? - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:31:51 -0000 From: "SHEARER, Andrew" Subject: RE: [AVALON] L.A. is my lady ( not!) + video contents question Tim I haven't got access to the video right now but I'm fairly sure Don't want To Know is on there (the English version) Andrew - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kendrick [mailto:tim63@earthlink.net] Sent: 17 February 2000 12:43 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] L.A. is my lady ( not!) + video contents question You're right, Bahi, that's it! And wasn't he interviewed on the roof of a building overlooking the smog-ridden city? ( I know L.A. and detest it.) Next time I'm back in England I'll go through my videos and see if I can find it. Perhaps it could go on the next Avalonia video if there should ever be one. >Not sure whether it was the same programme but they appeared together >once on a thing about LA. While McLaren chatted to camera, a lanky >figure in a bright blue jacket sloped its way across the scene in the >distance. There was a brief Ferry interview, too - bright blue >jacket, shades - but I don't remember the two men appearing on camera >together. I think it was a Tube Special, or a Whistle Test extra in >1986; are we talking about the same thing? Didn't keep my copy. > >B I 'd like a to repeat a query I made yesterday but to which no-one replied. I have a UK copy of BRYAN FERRY AND ROXY MUSIC: THE VIDEO COLLECTION, but I've been in America for most of the last two years and I haven't seen it in that time. My memory may be failing me, but I don't remember a video for DON'T WANT TO KNOW being on it. I remember vids for MAMOUNA and YOUR PAINTED SMILE from the same album very clearly. But the box for the American release of the collection - and I haven't bought it yet, so I'm only talking about the listing on the package - puts DON'T WANT TO KNOW as number 23 of 24 selections. So does the American release include extra material, or am I just remembering wrong??? Tim K. - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. 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I get a huge lump in my throat and my eyes start to moisten. I hear myself cry, in the darkness of the room. Tears run down my cheeks and fall on my pillow. I shed so many tears in my lonely bed.. I wonder , why did this happen, it was too soon, too sudden. I know that eventually I'll drift off to sleep and hopefully I'll dream of them. Tomorrow will come and I'll do it all over again." Hows that for bearing ones soul? Helps though sometime to just let goooooooo. M.Marlana.K.... - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 06:33:21 -0500 From: ecwoods@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] Interview Picture Disc Something tells me that if _I_ have one of these, they're common as the flu, but I wanted to see if there was any interest in maybe getting it on tape or CD for distribution to those interested. It's a Bryan Ferry Interview Picture Disc made by Baktabak Marketing. I've played it only once about ten years ago, but I think the interview took place in 1975 or 1976. If there's enough interest, I would be willing to loan it to someone who could make good copies. I have a record-to-tape-recorder, but that's about it. Let me know if you all have it already or if you'd be interested in having a copy. Crystal - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:33:48 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) I think I just threw up. SimonG >>> Noam Bronstein 02/17 4:04 pm >>> And I.... love... you, Kristina. (ok this is the part where all Avalonia breaks into a rousing choral medley of Celine Dion-Mariah Carey-Michael Bolton songs!) ;) > Noam, I have to tell you: Sometimes I just love you! > Is that okay for you? > > /Kicki G > > ------------------------ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:50:28 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martino's sacrilege (you knew I couldn't let this go by) - --- Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > Is that a saxophone I see in your frontpocket, Noam-dear, or are you > just happy to see me? > /Kicki Shhh.. not so loud, my love - your husband may become.. a Jealous Guy. > > P.S Satisfied, Mark? I think the straight men on this list are just glad they can live out their h-e issues through me. But then, I have almost as many delusions as eman. Noam (still Straight Enough) ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:49:06 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two simple questions... Spot on, Mr. Hogan ! I do have a degree in mathematics -- only because it was the easiest degree to get. Laziness, the mark of a mathematician. - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hogan To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:31 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two simple questions... > >>I have always thought of "Oh Yeah" as a sort of a mobius strip of a song. >>Bryan is singing about the Roxy Music sing that he is singing. > >>--TriTri > > >Do I detect another mathematician? Or just an Escher fan? > >Jeff > >-- > > > > > >-------------------- >To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail >majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:09:35 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] OH Yeah (misheard on the radio) When the Oh Yeah single came out (the second Roxy single that I bought - I was 7 at the time) I remember (before I made the purchase) pushing my ear up to the speaker everytime it came on the radio to try and figure out what they were singing in the chorus, and I thought it was "There's a bell playing in the radio", which conjured up images of a great big bell ringing in my dad's stereo, which I didn't think he'd be too pleased about. It was my mum who pointed out what the actual lyrics were. SimonG - regressing >>I have always thought of "Oh Yeah" as a sort of a mobius strip of a song. >>Bryan is singing about the Roxy Music sing that he is singing. > >>--TriTri - -------------------- To disentangle yourself from these bickering numbnuts, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #62 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest