From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #31 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, February 2 2000 Volume 05 : Number 031 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] The best Shame ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in the cultural section [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! ["Alexander Byles" ] [AVALON] BOSTON BOOT [AMeyersLD@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Ideas ? [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! ["Alexander Byles" ] Re: [AVALON] More Shame [JFROXY@aol.com] [AVALON] RE:new subscribers. [KRNCHSE@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! ["Tracy Connell" ] Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! [Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] The best Shame I'm sorry, but you can't get any better than Jimmy Reed's version, especially on my warped 45 on the Stateside label. And Spedding's solo on Bryan's version is fantastic too. SimonG >>> "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" 02/01 3:48 pm >>> Red wrote > the most fabulous version of shame I believe has been noted--by Shirley & Co, But that's not the J Reed song. Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:17:43 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in the cultural section >Mr Bryan Ferry is today featured in an essay 13,000 characters+ in the >cultural section of the Swedish conservative paper of record, Svenska >Dagbladet. It's in Swedish: > >http://www.svd.se/div/index/index_2000-02-01.asp?main=/dynamiskt/Kultur/did_429 >1 >54.asp > >Daniel who regrets I can not attend the concert in Stockholm on Friday Ferry is also interviewed in Dagens Nyheter, Sweden's biggest daily newpaper. I'll see if I can translate the best parts for you later. /Kicki - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:57:35 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] APS Update - ---------- >From: "Martin Stockman" >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] APS Update >Date: Fri, Jan 7, 2000, 1:18 pm > > > > ---------- >>From: hsszlenk >> >> Are you sending PS out to all of us without getting paid first ? I have >> yet to hear from you about how much I owe you, how you want the money and >> where you want it sent to. > > Hi Hank > > I'm not asking for any money until I've actually given them to the postman. > Jason, Kicki and I will not be taking the bread out of our (five) children's > mouths in the meantime. I still haven't decided which is the most efficient > and convenient way to collect non-sterling payments. > > We really tried to get them out before Christmas but logistics conspired > against us. We've been shopping around for a good deal on the reproductions > and we've finally got a reasonable price. One guy was quoting £12 per NSTC > copy ! ... but the original prices I quoted to the list will now be > sufficient to cover our costs. Indeed we may, repeat may, end up with around > $50-$75 excess which I suggest we forward to Kicki for the ongoing costs of > her site. > > In a perfect world UK Avalonia should receive APS around Jan 12, Europe > around Jan 15 and the rest the following week. > > Thanks, as usual, for your seemingly infinite patience.. > > M xx > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 06:10:19 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn I don't know Mr. Lawn at all, never tried to contact him, never joined the fan club, &tc. However I do feel that it is wrong that this discussion is being carried on when he is unable to follow and/or participate in it via this medium. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 11:12:14 GMT From: "Alexander Byles" Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! Thanks Tracy, I'll go with what you say, but I was a bit worried Jerry Hall sounded a little manly in my opinion! A dig Han? I didn't think my post fitted to any of e-mans criteria! Alex. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:29:03 -0000 From: Terry Lane Subject: RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! Tracey / Alex I dont mean to"split hairs" but Jerry Hall only appeared on the lets stick together video, You may need to refer to the album to see which backing singers were in the recording studios with Bryan. Terry - -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Byles [mailto:axelbartoli@hotmail.com] Sent: 02 February 2000 11:12 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! Thanks Tracy, I'll go with what you say, but I was a bit worried Jerry Hall sounded a little manly in my opinion! A dig Han? I didn't think my post fitted to any of e-mans criteria! Alex. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:27:32 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! >Tracey / Alex > >I dont mean to"split hairs" but Jerry Hall only appeared on the lets stick >together video, You may need to refer to the album to see which backing >singers were in the recording studios with Bryan. > >Terry It is a well known fact that Jerry Hall did that hollering in Let's Stick Together. She writes about it herself in Tall Tales. Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:04:07 -0800 (PST) From: Irene Adler Subject: Re: [AVALON] Statto's Monthly Report ok will that was beg if ever I saw one- WE LOVE YOU! - --- Will Frechette wrote: > PEA_NUT keeps emailing me, is he still > subscribed? Honest, I'm not gay. I > don't know why. He keeps going on about how you all > hate me and conspire > against me (me). Is that so? what's up? > > Will > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" > > > > > Hello All, > > > > January was a quiet month for Avalon membership > (flame wars excepted) As > of > > the 1st of February there are 288 people > subsc*ibed to Avalon, 193 on the > > regular list and 95 on the digest. This is almost > identical to the > previous > > month. Membership has remained stable over the > last month with a few new > > faces (Welcome) and a few old faces returning > (Welcome back) > > > > We have had a few leavers this month including the > unloved and unlovely > > Velvetgurl. > > > > I'd love to know how this compares with Jim Lawn's > mailing list, not that > > it's a competition you understand :-) > > > > Expect an uplift in membership when the perfumed > sigh reaches the world's > > nostrils... > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris > > > > P.S. That monkey's very quiet... > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:19:18 -0000 From: Terry Lane Subject: RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! I would never believe a word that woman says and Bryan did say, at the time she released the book,"her version of events were some what different from mine" Yes jerry went on stage with Bryan on some US shows but I doubt that is her voice on the recording. Terry - -----Original Message----- From: Kicki Gustafsson [mailto:kicki.gustafsson@op.se] Sent: 02 February 2000 05:28 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! >Tracey / Alex > >I dont mean to"split hairs" but Jerry Hall only appeared on the lets stick >together video, You may need to refer to the album to see which backing >singers were in the recording studios with Bryan. > >Terry It is a well known fact that Jerry Hall did that hollering in Let's Stick Together. She writes about it herself in Tall Tales. Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:27:08 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc I'm coming in on this in the last inning but does Mr.Lawn know of all these problems that cropped up? From a pr view, I don't think any credible outfit would knowingly give bad service. Who knows? Maybe the guy's worked to death and there aren't enough hours in the day to handle everything in Ferrydom. I think y'all should should sked a web-chat with Mr. Lawn at some GMT! Rich - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Whiteford [mailto:robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 7:01 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc I've not even had a newsletter. But to be fair I'm not certain if Mr Lawn is paid from the Ferry payroll or does it for love. Anyrate there do seem to be too many disappointed people ........... Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Connell To: Sent: 31 January 2000 20:58 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc > I sent a SAE off to Jim Lawn and asked about his service - if he sold > merchandise or books about Bryan and Roxy. All I got back was his latest > news letter which I had already seen when someone copied it onto the Avalon > list. There was no information whatsoever about his 'information service'. > If an A4 sheet of paper with tour dates on is the best he can do I'm sure > there's someone on this list who could do a much better job of newsletters > and information. > > I was not impressed!! > > Tracy - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:56:44 -0500 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry in the cultural section - --_uReach_com_26916734994949980412962xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Danial Atombomb! It's good to see you again! You've been away for awhile, haven't you (or maybe it's just that I have). I'd like to read that article, but unfortunately, my command of Swedish is not good. In fact it's nothing. My Danish is improving however, and I'm sure my son will teach me lots more once he is born. Ciao! Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Daniel Atterbom (atterbom@kompost.com) wrote: > Mr Bryan Ferry is today featured in an essay 13,000 characters+ in the > cultural section of the Swedish conservative paper of record, Svenska > Dagbladet. It's in Swedish: > > http://www.svd.se/div/index/index_2000-02-01.asp?main=/dynamiskt /Kultur/did_4291 > 54.asp > > Daniel who regrets I can not attend the concert in Stockholm on Friday > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > "It is a relief to me when I can get away and read a book." > W. Somerset Maugham > > Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan > särskilt > medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. > > This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for > publication or re-distribution without my written permission. > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - --_uReach_com_26916734994949980412962xxx_-- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:04:19 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! In a message dated 02/02/00 13:21:52 GMT Standard Time, terry.lane@rs-components.com writes: << I would never believe a word that woman says and Bryan did say, at the time she released the book,"her version of events were some what different from mine" Yes jerry went on stage with Bryan on some US shows but I doubt that is her voice on the recording. >> He mentioned in a recent BBC radio interview that it was her on the record. J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:46:05 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn Ha! That's just where you're totally wrong. He's very aware of the list and was, when last I met him, very clued up on current on-line topics. He met numerous members during the recent tour and I have to say that I found him charming and full of behind the scenes info. He was close to being dead by the Newcastle gig as he seems to be single handedly tackling all issues Ferry without a huge amount of support - but that's his job (and has the pay cheque to prove it). However, had my only dealings with him been via the so called information service I'd probably be calling him a twat by now. But then I remeber the old days of the Peter Leay run Roxy FanClub (when I was young enough to feel I would want to be part of such a thing)and huge delays, denials, lost correspondence etc was par for the course, and he didn't have the remit of having to organise Bry's life for him. No excuses of course, but I doubt whether all cock-ups are purely down to Jim Lawn personally. A couple of ads in the job section of The Independent should sort the situation out a treat. Jocelyn. - -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Matan [mailto:matanc@gusun.georgetown.edu] Sent: 02 February 2000 11:10 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn I don't know Mr. Lawn at all, never tried to contact him, never joined the fan club, &tc. However I do feel that it is wrong that this discussion is being carried on when he is unable to follow and/or participate in it via this medium. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:47:10 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] BOSTON BOOT Hey all! Jeff Jones: Did I ever thank you for the Boston Boot? If not, THANK YOU! (if I already did, well, thanks again.....) Andrew in Evanston. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > Ha! > That's just where you're totally wrong. > He's very aware of the list and was, when last I met him, very clued up on > current on-line topics. Sheesh. What is with the newest round of subscribers? Well, please forgive me for asking people to have the basic courtesy to not slander someone I thought might not be able to defend himself in this forum. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 11:37:22 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ideas ? David: You don't suppose Andy MacKay could be of the same blood-line, do you? What a hoot, thanks for the laugh. OK, the light bulb listings are funny, too - laughing is good. Best wishes, kbp - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:17:03 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc Hi, I've had two identical newsletters, both delivered at my expense, and both with tour information that was posted here long before. The newsletters have improved greatly in accuracy, as it's fair to say that they were ill informed to the point of speculation at one time, just repeating the same rumours. Here are some examples: Ferry may appear in a remake of Casablanca. Ferry may appear on "Trojan Souls", George Michael's project. But the worst gaffe was Newsletter 8 announcing the UK release of Dance With Life (complete with catalogue numbers) This was pulled before release. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Whiteford [SMTP:robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:01 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc > > I've not even had a newsletter. > > But to be fair I'm not certain if Mr Lawn is paid from the Ferry payroll or > does it for love. > > Anyrate there do seem to be too many disappointed people ........... > > Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tracy Connell > To: > Sent: 31 January 2000 20:58 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Webchat etc > > > > I sent a SAE off to Jim Lawn and asked about his service - if he sold > > merchandise or books about Bryan and Roxy. All I got back was his latest > > news letter which I had already seen when someone copied it onto the > Avalon > > list. There was no information whatsoever about his 'information > service'. > > If an A4 sheet of paper with tour dates on is the best he can do I'm sure > > there's someone on this list who could do a much better job of > newsletters > > and information. > > > > I was not impressed!! > > > > Tracy > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:55:48 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn > Sheesh. What is with the newest round of subscribers? > > Well, please forgive me for asking people to have the basic courtesy to > not slander someone I thought might not be able to defend himself in this > forum. > > Colleen colleen, it is not slander for people to report truthfully on experiences they have had with mr. lawn. nor is it discourteous for them to do so. plenty of non-subscribers get discussed, and criticized, on this list. i don't think we have to limit our criticism to subscribers only. if you think mr. lawn would like to respond to the avalon critics, then by all means write him (no SAE needed) and invite him to join, if he hasn't done so - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 03:56:29 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn Hello, I've no wish to criticise Jim Lawn personally. I've spoken to Jim a few times and he is a very pleasant and knowledgeable man to deal with. However. if you set yourself up as an 'official' source of information you have an obligation to supply information which is timely and accurate. He has supplied some excellent information, and at times, some that is very speculative. To be fair though, I would add that he is dealing with an artist, and indeed an industry which is prone to dramatic changes of mind or policy. Colleen, are you really trying to tell us that we cannot discuss people who cannot reply? Wouldn't that exclude us from discussing Ferry himself? After all BF wasn't able to reply to your acerbic observations on ATGB, was he? Frankly the relevance of the sensible contributions you make are often undermined by pedantic interventions of this kind. It is possible to have an unexpressed thought, you know? Jim Lawn is as capable of joining this discussion group as anyone. It's not a secret society. We know that he is aware of Avalon's existence, as he was invited to join us in the pub before the RFH gig. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Colleen Matan [SMTP:matanc@gusun.georgetown.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 11:10 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn > > > > I don't know Mr. Lawn at all, never tried to contact him, never joined the > fan club, &tc. However I do feel that it is wrong that this discussion is > being carried on when he is unable to follow and/or participate in it via > this medium. > > Colleen > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:36:41 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: [AVALON] Peanut - The thick plottens > -----Original Message----- > From: Will Frechette [SMTP:will@execpc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:56 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Statto's Monthly Report > > PEA_NUT keeps emailing me, is he still subscribed? Honest, I'm not gay. > I > don't know why. He keeps going on about how you all hate me and conspire > against me (me). Is that so? what's up? > > Will > > No, Pea_nut is no longer subs*ribed to Avalon but if you read on.... Here is a piece from the visitors book at www.bryanferry.com by Will Frechette (Pea_nut1969@yahoo.com ) on 26-Jan-00 i LOVE YOU BRYAN- AS A MAN AND A MUSICIAN. It seems you ARE Pea_nut Will! Get well soon, Chris - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:04:01 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn > Sheesh. What is with the newest round of subscribers? > > Well, please forgive me for asking people to have the basic courtesy to > not slander someone I thought might not be able to defend himself in this > forum. > > Colleen colleen, it is not slander for people to report truthfully on experiences they have had with mr. lawn. nor is it discourteous for them to do so. plenty of non-subscribers get discussed, and criticized, on this list. i don't think we have to limit our criticism to subscribers only. if you think mr. lawn would like to respond to the avalon critics, then by all means write him (no SAE needed) and invite him to join, if he hasn't done so - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 17:10:20 GMT From: "Alexander Byles" Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! So it was Jerry. Thanks for answering my query everyone. If I was her I don't think I'd admit to it because whilst being cool, I still think that it sounds like a bloke doing the shouting! I'm going off to practice my "aaaaaarrrrrreeeeeebaaaaahhhhssss", Alex. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:14:08 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: jim lawn On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Turner, Chris (cturner) wrote: [...] > Colleen, are you really trying to tell us that we cannot discuss people who > cannot reply? Wouldn't that exclude us from discussing Ferry himself? After > all BF wasn't able to reply to your acerbic observations on ATGB, was he? > Frankly the relevance of the sensible contributions you make are often > undermined by pedantic interventions of this kind. Surely it is obvious, even to those of us unencumbered by pedantry of any kind, that there is a difference between discussing the output of an artist and the kind of messages which have been posted here about Mr. Lawn. Criticize the service he provides, of course. But some of the messages I read began to move into a more personal sort of criticism which is unfair when someone cannot defend himself. > It is possible to have an unexpressed thought, you know? Is it, Chris? > Jim Lawn is as capable of joining this discussion group as anyone. It's not a > secret society. We know that he is aware of Avalon's existence, as he was > invited to join us in the pub before the RFH gig. And he elected not to for whatever reason. Which is his decision, and for which he should not be punished by having his name besmirched in his absence. Certainly his decision not to join does not mean that people are therefore allowed to attack him without his being able to defend himself. If you are truly unhappy with the service the "Information Service" provides, why not complain to Mr. Lawn directly? Or to Mr. Ferry? Or simply by voting with your feet and not renewing your membership? Having been through a bunch of nonsense because the head of a fan club joined a mailing list and got his panties in a wad over what went on there, I am glad Mr. Lawn has elected to stick to his official business. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:14:47 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Shame In a message dated 02/02/00 01:47:28 GMT Standard Time, bahi@macnet.co.uk writes: << You say that the Shirley & Co version is the same song. You have the record, so unless the credit's wrong on the label, you must be right but you have to admit that it sounds *completely* different. >> The "Shame,Shame,Shame" BF did is a cover of the Shirley and Co. song, but he also adds bits from another song, called (I think) "Can I get a witness", that's the parts the girls are singing. That is one of three BF covers where he has joined two songs together, "Hold on I'm coming" and "What goes on" being the other two. JF. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:54:13 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] RE:new subscribers. At what point in time does ones responses and contributions become valid and worthyto a veteran hack as yourself,Coleen? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 17:55:52 GMT From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! There is actually an artical on the web where Jerry Hall talks about this song and how that AAARRRREEEEBAAAAHHH part came about. I will dig out the site address and send it later as I am on University computers at the moment. Tracy. >From: Terry Lane >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" >Subject: RE: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! >Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:29:03 -0000 > >Tracey / Alex > >I dont mean to"split hairs" but Jerry Hall only appeared on the lets stick >together video, You may need to refer to the album to see which backing >singers were in the recording studios with Bryan. > >Terry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alexander Byles [mailto:axelbartoli@hotmail.com] >Sent: 02 February 2000 11:12 >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! > > >Thanks Tracy, > >I'll go with what you say, but I was a bit worried Jerry Hall sounded a >little manly in my opinion! > >A dig Han? I didn't think my post fitted to any of e-mans criteria! > >Alex. > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:07:16 -0900 From: Karen Roth Subject: [AVALON] e is way out of line - -----Original Message----- From: Karen Roth Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:04 AM To: 'eman96' Subject: RE: ? my reference to the Alaska Airlines flight in my post was in no way intended to be a joke. I can't for the life of me understand why it would be miscontrued as such. I have lost three brothers in a small palne crash in 1993 and they have never been found. Morris Thompson and family (on the Alaska Airlines flight in question) are very close family friends and I will be attending their service today in downtown Anchorage. I really was on a flight on Sunday on Alaska Airlines from California and I was feeling very fortunate that I wasn't on the doomed flight. Certainly there is nothing funny about that. Death is nothing I take lightly or poke fun at. It's kind of a wake up call, as it could happen to any one of us at anytime. I was in California to try and save my brother from killing himself with drugs and booze and I couldn't do anything! He won't listen, he won't hear, he won't help himself. talk about frustrating. I left California a bit deflated and with sorrow as I boarded that plane. He's a lost cause and I hate the fact that I can't do anything about it. Happy to be alive, K - -----Original Message----- From: eman96 [mailto:eman96@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:29 PM To: kroth@pacak.com Subject: ? i certainly hope your reference to alaska airlines on the avalon list was no joke on the plane crash. those of us in seattle, the major hub for alaska etc., wouldn' t think that was funny at all. not to mention a family memeber of mine works for that airline and could be on any flight anytime. e - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:25:57 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! >In a message dated 02/02/00 13:21:52 GMT Standard Time, >terry.lane@rs-components.com writes: > ><< I would never believe a word that woman says and Bryan did say, at the time > she released the book,"her version of events were some what different from > mine" > > Yes jerry went on stage with Bryan on some US shows but I doubt that is her > voice on the recording. > >> >He mentioned in a recent BBC radio interview that it was her on the record. > >J.O'B. > Why is it so hard to believe that Jerry did the record? It's not like she is singing a major aria! /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:31:23 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE:new subscribers. On Wed, 2 Feb 2000 KRNCHSE@aol.com wrote: > At what point in time does ones responses and contributions become valid and > worthyto a veteran hack as yourself,Coleen? I'll let you know. Keep monitoring this frequency. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:31:48 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! >So it was Jerry. Thanks for answering my query everyone. If I was her I >don't think I'd admit to it because whilst being cool, I still think that it >sounds like a bloke doing the shouting! She has a rather dark voice, as tall women often do (note that I wrote often, not always, so no flaming please) /Kicki G > >I'm going off to practice my "aaaaaarrrrrreeeeeebaaaaahhhhssss", > >Alex. > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (personal homepage) http://www.avalon.pp.se (my Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry-site) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 18:42:34 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Shame - ---------- >From: JFROXY@aol.com > You say that the Shirley & Co version is the same song. You have the > record, so unless the credit's wrong on the label, you must be right > but you have to admit that it sounds *completely* different. >> > > > The "Shame,Shame,Shame" BF did is a cover of the Shirley and Co. song, but he > also adds bits from another song, called (I think) "Can I get a witness", > that's the parts the girls are singing. That is one of three BF covers where > he has joined two songs together, "Hold on I'm coming" and "What goes on" > being the other two. Excellent observations John. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:01:08 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The flame that never fades - ---------- >From: KRNCHSE@aol.com > At what point in time does ones responses and contributions become valid and > worthyto a veteran hack as yourself,Coleen? Things are warming up after a "toujours la politesse" January. Colleen's got out her blackjack and is swinging at all comers. There's some extraordinary "My airline disaster's worse than yours" banter and now we know poor old Will's Peanut. Laugh ? I nearly played Tryptich. Now. I have still have spare tickets for Paris on March 9, courtesy of gorgeous Luc. Wild strawberries only seven francs a kilo, I understand. Martino no no Noooooo - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:03:24 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The flame that never fades You don't know I'm Pea_nut, he's just made it appear that way, which by the way is fuckin' bullshit. I think the fag wants me. I don't play those games. If any of you are beginning to know me, there isn't anything that I would want to say and not have the balls to sign my own name. Not that I would even ever become a member of AOL on top of it. Thank You Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" > Things are warming up after a "toujours la politesse" January. Colleen's got > out her blackjack and is swinging at all comers. There's some extraordinary > "My airline disaster's worse than yours" banter and now we know poor old > Will's Peanut. Laugh ? I nearly played Tryptich. > > Now. I have still have spare tickets for Paris on March 9, courtesy of > gorgeous Luc. Wild strawberries only seven francs a kilo, I understand. > > Martino no no Noooooo - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:30:35 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] LSTG, AAAARRREEEBAAAAHHHH! > Thanks Tracy, > > I'll go with what you say, but I was a bit worried Jerry Hall sounded a > little manly in my opinion! > > A dig Han? I didn't think my post fitted to any of e-mans criteria! > > Alex. Not at all, to much beer in combination with that funny lightbulb mail. Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:35:22 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Shame Shirley and Co are Shirley Goodman and Jesus Alvarez, The song Shame, shame, shame is written by Silvia Robinson. In my opinion Ferry never covered that one, Only the Jimmy Reed one. Han > In a message dated 02/02/00 01:47:28 GMT Standard Time, bahi@macnet.co.uk > writes: > > << > You say that the Shirley & Co version is the same song. You have the > record, so unless the credit's wrong on the label, you must be right > but you have to admit that it sounds *completely* different. >> > > > The "Shame,Shame,Shame" BF did is a cover of the Shirley and Co. song, but he > also adds bits from another song, called (I think) "Can I get a witness", > that's the parts the girls are singing. That is one of three BF covers where > he has joined two songs together, "Hold on I'm coming" and "What goes on" > being the other two. > > JF. > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:43:42 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: [AVALON] FW: ASSH-1, SC (ASSH-2), tvy CD Status To everyone who had already ordered them: I delivered the last batch of CDs to the Post Office last evening for shipment! Keep an eye out for the little white cardboard boxes from Virginia ... they should get there within the next 2-3 day, (barring snow). If anyone has any requests or wants further info, please send email OFF LIST - that is, mail me directly at mailto:hjames@thewebgal.com Thanks!   -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com TheWebGal Biz Site: http://www.thewebgal.com/ Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Archive: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >------------------------------------------< - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #31 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest