From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V5 #15 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, January 21 2000 Volume 05 : Number 015 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name ["Pauline F" ] Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? ["Pauline F" ] Re: [AVALON] mistaken lyrics [William Sommers ] [AVALON] website ["the siren" ] [AVALON] April Dates [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Website developments [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] End of the Year [KRNCHSE@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: Sting (smelly) [MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty)] Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name ["Pauline F" ] Re: [AVALON] April Dates ["Robert Whiteford" ] Re: [AVALON] Website developments ["Richard Swift" ] Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? [JRUTHL123@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Website developments ["eRacerX" ] Re: [AVALON] mistaken lyrics ["eRacerX" ] [AVALON] In the spotlight [jas2347@xsite.net] Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name ["Pauline F" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:14:59 CET From: "Pauline F" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name > >Thanks very much. I didn't know that it's Merlin Armstrong (Maybe from >Louis > >Armstrong? Just a wild guess...) No, my wild guess was wrong. I now remember that Bryan's mother's maiden name was Armstrong, so that might explain it. Can anybody confirm this? Pauline ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:34:57 CET From: "Pauline F" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? >Well - who is the guy in the photo? There is no way the cowboy in that >photo >is Bryan Ferry! Or anybody in Roxy, ever! I swear to God it's Dwight Yoakam >or some country-cowboy-hatted business major from UCLA! > Dear Julie, I'm afraid to say that it's definitely Bryan himself. He seems to have a certain fondness for cowboy gear. I remember an interview in which he said he really likes wearing cowboy boots, even though he has difficulties walking in them. There are also several photos of him wearing them, and in an old Trouser Press article (9/80)there's an extraordinary photo of him with cowboy hat and sunglasses. The article is titled "Back in the saddle - Big Bryan heads the posse at Roxy Music round-up". It's true, really. Pauline ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:53:58 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? - ---------- >From: "Pauline F" >>Well - who is the guy in the photo? There is no way the cowboy in that >>photo >>is Bryan Ferry! Or anybody in Roxy, ever! I swear to God it's Dwight Yoakam >>or some country-cowboy-hatted business major from UCLA! >> > > Dear Julie, > > I'm afraid to say that it's definitely Bryan himself. He seems to have a > certain fondness for cowboy gear. > > I remember an interview in which he said he really likes wearing cowboy > boots, even though he has difficulties walking in them. You're right Pauline. I think its a great look on him. Although in one of the video collection segments - his 1986 interview with Richard Skinner - you'll notice Bryan sporting a quite unpleasant pair of cowboy boots, bulky, quasi-sharkskin, under the obligatory black suit... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:40:01 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] mistaken lyrics In a message dated 01/19/2000 10:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, nustudio@ix.netcom.com writes: << Many years ago, I played the first Roxy album to a friend, who swore that 2HB started with "Oh I was mooned by a string bean..." >> Excellent! Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:40:01 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] End of the Year In a message dated 01/19/2000 7:11:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Avalon887@aol.com writes: << hi - Happy B-day to both of you. I will be 48 next Tuesday - 1/25/00 eileen in Queens >> I must now surrender the title of Eldest of AVALON to Eileen The Queen, although I still may be the Old Man On The List. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:39:34 GMT From: "Alexander Byles" Subject: RE: [AVALON] bryan 'bob dylan' ferry Rich said, And if we take a look at harmonica playing, Ferry would have a rough time >picking up tips >from Dylan after hearing what one joking DJ said about Bobby D. >He asks....."How is it possible for Bob Dylan to play the harmonica, >professionally, >for 10 years and still show no signs of improvement?" Too true. I think it was Larry Adler who said that one of his wishes was that Bob Dylan had never picked up a harmonica! I know bias is involved but I reckon that Bry is one of the few vocalists who can actually play. It tragically happens all too often where a vocalist decides to take along something to do at a gig, e.g. tap a tambourine (Bry even got Jimmy Maelen to do this, see Avalon), play an unneccesary acoustic guitar, or at worse case play a harmonica. To be played as an instrument in its own right, refer to Chicago Saxophonists James Cotton and Little Walter to reveal the true extent of Bobs failings! Alex. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:24:31 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Aquarions Birthdays To all us water sign babies In January. Happy Birthday. Eileen, You & 1 are same day, mine is also I /25 /2000. May everyone get the cake of their choice.. M.K............ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:25:23 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] bryan 'bob dylan' ferry bahi wrote: >Dylan, Reed (Lou & a touch of Jimmy), Brian Wilson (always overlooked >as an influence - why?), Billie Holiday... thank you, dammit! well, you know i never thought of the billie holiday (though i knew she was an influence) and i am familiar with her work. knew about lou reed and am familiar w/him, but never thought of it. are you hearing lou in the delivery too? i'm going to have to check that out. and, i feel like a fool - not that i never got into the beach boys, but brian wilson is truly something else. had a finger in a lot of things, to be sure. happy with the theremin! >And those pre-E.G. BBC sessions, with O'List on guitar, are very >Lennonesque, too. Early -70s festival snapshots have Ferry in round >wire-frame sunglasses and long hair. ha! where are shots such as these visible to the naked eye? thanks bahi! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:15:20 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? pauline f wrote: >I'm afraid to say that it's definitely Bryan himself. He seems to have a >certain fondness for cowboy gear. >I remember an interview in which he said he really likes wearing cowboy >boots, even though he has difficulties walking in them. There are also >several photos of him wearing them, and in an old Trouser Press article >(9/80)there's an extraordinary photo of him with cowboy hat and sunglasses. trouser press was a great mag, i thought. at the time anyway. i remember another article (not TP), comparitively recent (i don't know, anywhere from '88 to '95) and the interviewer seemed to hone in on 'an immaculate suede cowboy boot' bryan had on, when he put his foot onto the window sill. it could have been right out of the box or whatever, but from the additional comments - it was as if bry's sartorial elegance had kept it free of any and all potentially defiling dirt & debris. almost like ... a god, really (ha-ha). i have to admit, though i'm laughing about it now - for someone as sartorially-challenged as myself, i was in awe reading that stupid blurb back then. i bet his boots are dirty now! of course, mine stay clean *all* the time ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:42:20 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name in the American Vogue article about all the Ferrys on the fall of 91 (pre-online for me), the writer named everyone: Lucy Mary Margaret Helmore, Tara Patrick George. i think i got more info from this article than i did from all the music magazine articles combined!! - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: Pauline F To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name >>speaking ex cathedra here: Bryan Ferry does not have a middle name. ... >>and >>Otis' name is Charles Frederick Otis Ferry. Still wondering where Armstrong >>came from? (Merlin Armstrong) >> >>--TriTri >> > >Thanks very much. I didn't know that it's Merlin Armstrong (Maybe from Louis >Armstrong? Just a wild guess...), only that his second son is called Isaac >James. >How did you find out? >And what about Tara? > >Pauline >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:14:04 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] mistaken lyrics At 10:14 PM 1/19/00 -0500, David Neuhaus wrote: > Many years ago, I played the first Roxy album to a friend, who swore > that 2HB started with "Oh I was mooned by a string bean..." "Excellent!" indeed. Quite a few years ago as well, while ascending a graffiti-filled dorm stairway in Ohio, I noticed somebody had recently added "Oh, I was moved by your scream dream". A week or so later I was lying back listening to "...Funky Chick?" when the mattress jostled and I opened my eyes to find a woman had entered my room and plopped down next to me to partake. After a few minutes, my first words to this long-blond-haired siren stranger: "It was you, wasn't it?" She slowly turned her head with a slight questioning look. "'Scream Dream'" I vaguely clarified. She smiled, nodded, and we returned to the show. Which is how I met Prudence, the only person of that name I've ever encountered (and, for Washington D.C. folks, who worked at WHFS back when it was still in Bethesda and the best spot on the dial). > Unfortunetly, it has stuck with me to this very day. In my case, I think I've always preferred the "your Scream Dream" variation. Which of course will now forever pale in comparison to yours. -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:33:59 GMT From: "the siren" Subject: [AVALON] website bryanferry.com has come along a lot today. Vid clips, tour dates, chat line questions (tune in 28/1/00 @ 6pm GMT for live chat with The Cool Ruler) etc. Hit that browser URL now!!! Robert ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:38:27 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] April Dates There are discussions going on with Bryan's management regarding more dates in UK in April. No dates are confirmed yet but as soon as there is anything confirmed I will be passed this information to inform the Avalon Mailing List Watch This Space John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:45:14 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website developments All Right Richard! I've checked out www.bryanferry.com, and I love it! Thanks for the tip-off. My only concern is, with this new official list that is directly tied to Bryan Ferry and is interactive, what may happen to this list: I am fond of avalonians' input. Have you any ideas on our direction? Best wishes,kbporter - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:07:22 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] End of the Year You old fart,you are catching me up, Dave - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:38:19 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Sting (smelly) Saw this tibbit in paper today. "Bring some air freshener if you're meeting Sting after a concert." "I don't like soaps, & I don't use anything like shampoo or deordorant." the 48-yr old rocker told "I actually like my own smell." Phewee. ....Hes , the only one who does!!!! Blues legend B.B. King & guitar virtuoso Eric Clapton will begin recording their collaborative album end of month with sessions ending in March. No date of release yet. M. K... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:15:27 CET From: "Pauline F" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name >in the American Vogue article about all the Ferrys on the fall of 91 >(pre-online for me), the writer named everyone: Lucy Mary Margaret Helmore, >Tara Patrick George. i think i got more info from this article than i did >from all the music magazine articles combined!! > >--TriTri Thanks! I'd really love to read this Vogue article. Has anyone got it and could publish it on the list or send it to me privately? That would be so interesting to read! Pauline ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:31:47 -0000 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] April Dates John, Who IS Bryans management? Thanks Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 20 January 2000 17:38 Subject: [AVALON] April Dates > There are discussions going on with Bryan's management regarding more dates > in UK in April. No dates are confirmed yet but as soon as there is anything > confirmed I will be passed this information to inform the Avalon Mailing List > > Watch This Space > > John O'Brien > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:27:37 CET From: "Pauline F" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? >Bryan sporting a quite unpleasant pair of cowboy boots, bulky, >quasi-sharkskin, under the obligatory black suit... Ugh, sounds not too good... But remember, Bryan even gets away with wearing green socks and red children's shoes in that infamous Start Rite ad from some years ago... Somehow he always looks cool, no matter what he's wearing. How does he do it? Pauline ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:00:42 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] End of the Year In a message dated 1/20/00 7:42:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, ASchulberg@aol.com writes: << << hi - Happy B-day to both of you. I will be 48 next Tuesday - 1/25/00 eileen in Queens >> I must now surrender the title of Eldest of AVALON to Eileen The Queen, although I still may be the Old Man On The List. Arnie >> thanks Arnie! e - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:25:45 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] April Dates Thanks John. I did intend to mention yesterday that Jim said the next UK dates were likely for April. I would guess for likely read 'almost certain' given that these were in the process of being finalised during the first leg of the tour according to Rhett Davies. I'm sure they must be set now - it's just a matter of when the information is released. Regards, Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: > There are discussions going on with Bryan's management regarding more dates > in UK in April. No dates are confirmed yet but as soon as there is anything > confirmed I will be passed this information to inform the Avalon Mailing List > > Watch This Space > > John O'Brien > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:33:46 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website developments I'm sure this list will continue! I like the official site but I'm sure it will be carefully managed. You need a password to post messages on the bulletin board and accordingly access to this could easily be denied - I'm sure some of the more free speaking members of this list would come unstuck after a while there - so there's a place for both! The prospect of Bryan replying periodically to questions posted there and occassionally doing live Q and A sessions is exciting but realistically it won't happen a lot - especially with the sort of schedule he has right now. A proper official site is something many people on this list have been asking for for a long time - now they've got the beginings of one I see it as something else for everyone to talk about (especially when previously unseen [and unheard?] material starts to appear) rather than something to detract from the list. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website developments > All Right Richard! > I've checked out www.bryanferry.com, and I love it! Thanks for the > tip-off. My only concern is, with this new official list that is > directly tied to Bryan Ferry and is interactive, what may happen to this > list: I am fond of avalonians' input. Have you any ideas on our > direction? > Best wishes,kbporter - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:37:30 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] CHAT WITH BRYAN FERRY The internet chat with Bryan that Jim Lawn mentioned will take place on 28 January at 18.00 GMT. Go to http://www.bryanferry.com/communicate/index.html#askforchat for information. Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:11:09 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name so i got a scanner for christmas but i still haven't set it up! when i do i will scan in the American Vogue article. - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: Pauline F To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name >>in the American Vogue article about all the Ferrys on the fall of 91 >>(pre-online for me), the writer named everyone: Lucy Mary Margaret Helmore, >>Tara Patrick George. i think i got more info from this article than i did >>from all the music magazine articles combined!! >> >>--TriTri > >Thanks! I'd really love to read this Vogue article. Has anyone got it and >could publish it on the list or send it to me privately? That would be so >interesting to read! > >Pauline >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:12:50 EST From: JRUTHL123@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great Big Photo Gaffe? Well, You could knock me over with a feather! Thanks for the info. Still, it seems an odd choice of photo for the video sleeve. So there! Now that you mention it - I do remember seeing him in cowboy boots, particularly in the 70s. Just not in cowboy hats and rumpled raincoats. A happy lunar eclipse to a really dedicated fan base ! Julie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:24:42 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website developments Richard Swift told about: >> The prospect of Bryan >> replying periodically to questions posted there and occassionally doing live >> Q and A sessions is exciting but realistically it won't happen a lot - Hey, what the hell! http://www.bryanferry.com/communicate/index.html#askforchat Get your questions in NOW! I was looking back through some old listmails (I periodically clean house, but keep 'good info' messages, and some of the real psychotic stuff - let's make a 'top ten' of and of Q's from the list and submit it on the web site.) I have been composing the "What are your feelings on how freely music is passed around via the internet?" and "Is it OK for hard-core fans to bootleg your concerts and public appearances, and to copy and distribute them amongst themselves, if no profit is involved?" and "Are you in touch with the Avalon mailinglist? Is that you, Pea Nut? MonquiBoy?. . . RED? (dead giveaway: "Like Ferry even cares about this list!" 11/24/99) I still want to know something - What is Bryan's opinion of us? Not the Avalonians, - the fact that we hang around here talking about him everyday? Does he mind if there are a 'couple hundred' people in the world somewhere, bickering about every facet of his existence?? from his white socks, his middle name, his management, and his mistakes, to his performances, his song choices, his hair gel, the Roxy reunion and his fondness for cowboy gear..?? What about the list? That's right - What about ME? Jeez, that would give me the creeps. - H. just getting over the flu or a cold or something. had plenty of time on the couch lately - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:43:22 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] mistaken lyrics I have two listmails right in a row: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name Re: [AVALON] bryan 'bob dylan' ferry. That just strikes me funny. - H. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:48:20 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] In the spotlight I just visited Kiki's site and saw Kim's profile/page. Way to go home girl!!! And to think that you said that you did not photograph well ( yes I remember when you said it). I hope Bryan sees that photograph. Looking like a Siren to me!!! I'm glad your photos came out. My damn camera broke down at the moment I was talking about our "chance meeting" twenty years ago. Yes, it would have been a Kodak moment. I'm glad you got yours and someone got ours :))). Must straighten out that cap before Bryan returns. Jas - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:57:43 CET From: "Pauline F" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's middle name >so i got a scanner for christmas but i still haven't set it up! when i do i >will scan in the American Vogue article. > >--TriTri Thanks. I'm really looking forward to this. Pauline ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V5 #15 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest