From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #444 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, January 6 2000 Volume 04 : Number 444 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Nobel Concert - UK TV Showing ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] [AVALON] Dutch Ferry tickets for sale ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] RE: [AVALON] just a thought ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Bowie [JObinv01@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] just a thought ["Ujvary, Richard A." ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pic on "Band On The Run" ["mark shanahan" ] [AVALON] Ferry Pic on "Band On The Run" - A link ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Horoscope [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Horoscope [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Horoscope ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Bowie [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dav=ECd?= ] [AVALON] More profiles [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 [JObinv01@aol.com] [AVALON] Vinyl, and Record Stores [Helchat@aol.com] [AVALON] Reply to Leadbelly Music [MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty)] Re: [AVALON] Horoscope ["mark shanahan" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:11:37 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Nobel Concert - UK TV Showing I understand they give great pleasure to the deaf... > -----Original Message----- > From: KRNCHSE@aol.com [SMTP:KRNCHSE@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 6:03 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nobel Concert - UK TV Showing > > I think the Irish Ladies you are talking about are The Coors? I could make > a > few comments on them,but i wont waste any of this valuable space..... > > > Dave Martin > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 09:35:38 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] just a thought In a similar vein reports are that David Bowie is planning to re-record some of his neglected nuggets from the 60s (back to David Jones). This has been spurred by him performing his 1966 single 'Can't Help Thinkong About Me' in his concerts at the end of last year. Reports also suggest that Tony Visconti is producing and that Bowie wants to get this out before his next new project. What with that and a massive Ziggy Stardust project planned for 2002, it looks like quite a retro time is ahead for him. Maybe this will plant the seeds in Bryan's mind, especially after the interesting arrangements of early Roxy stuff that he's been doing. SimonG >>> Jeff Pavlock 01/05 8:43 pm >>> I am sitting here sipping a bacardi and pepsi(screw coke)listening to John Cale's Fragments of a Rainy Season (just love it)wondering if Mr. Ferry would ever do a like performance. It would be very interesting to hear "solo" piano versions of his songs. If Cale can do Guts like this just imagine Pyjamarama,Dreamhome....,etc not to mention Song for Europe or 2hb or Casanova.......c'mon Bryan let's do it.Jeff - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:29:23 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: [AVALON] Dutch Ferry tickets for sale Bryan is doing a show on 17 febr 2000 in the Concertgebouw Amsterdam. The ticketsale has started this morning. Tel 031206733797 Concertgebouw Ticketline Tel 0319000191 The stage is about 2 meters high so first row isn't really a good place to sit. Succes. I'm in row six. Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:47:35 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] just a thought Get ready for 'The Laughing Gnome (Y2K Mix)' > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Galloway [SMTP:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:36 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] just a thought > > In a similar vein reports are that David Bowie is planning to re-record > some of his neglected nuggets from the 60s (back to David Jones). This has > been spurred by him performing his 1966 single 'Can't Help Thinkong About > Me' in his concerts at the end of last year. Reports also suggest that Tony > Visconti is producing and that Bowie wants to get this out before his next > new project. > > What with that and a massive Ziggy Stardust project planned for 2002, it > looks like quite a retro time is ahead for him. Maybe this will plant the > seeds in Bryan's mind, especially after the interesting arrangements of > early Roxy stuff that he's been doing. > > SimonG > > >>> Jeff Pavlock 01/05 8:43 pm >>> > I am sitting here sipping a bacardi and pepsi(screw coke)listening to > John Cale's Fragments of a Rainy Season (just love it)wondering if Mr. > Ferry would ever do a like performance. It would be very interesting to > hear "solo" piano versions of his songs. If Cale can do Guts like this > just imagine Pyjamarama,Dreamhome....,etc not to mention Song for > Europe or 2hb or Casanova.......c'mon Bryan let's do it.Jeff > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:23:21 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] just a thought - ---------- >From: "Simon Galloway" > > What with that and a massive Ziggy Stardust project planned for 2002, it > looks like quite a retro time is ahead for him. Maybe this will plant the > seeds in Bryan's mind, especially after the interesting arrangements of > early Roxy stuff that he's been doing. Bryan is usually very charming about other artists but I have detected an unfailing "froideur" in his remarks - or lack of - about the Ziggster. Trawling through many hours of taped interviews with the mastro his interlocutors have often made passing comment about Bryan and David occupying similar niches in Pop's broad canvass. The Cool Ruler has been inclined to, at best, smile or raise a furry eyebrow, as if the thought that they may share influences has never occurred to him. Given that David said vey publicly in '74 that "Bryan Ferry is the only person in this country making interesting music at the moment" it's surprising that Bry has never, to my knowledge, been more magnanimous about Mr Jones. There was some business regarding Pin-Ups and Another Time (or was it These Foolish Things) that has been discussed in these pages ; wasn't it alleged that Bry released one of these albums early to trump David's card ? Rivalry ? The green-eyed monster ? There is a competitive streak in our man and thereby lies a tale methinks. In recent years their professional and personal lives have diverged so much as to make comparisons redundant. Whilst Bryan has got to grips with the nuances of the Landrover range and made records that clearly don't court the approval of teenage scribblers but warm the hearts of jaded Avalonions, David has re-introduced his Dick Van Dyke mockney vocal mannerisms, positioned himself as the Grand Old Man of Britpop and made a series of very poor albums. There was a time, however, when Alladin Sane, Diamond Dogs and Young Americans jousted with FYP, Stranded and Country Life. Not a bad period to have an 8-track cartridge in your Ford Anglia.... pip pip Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 12:19:11 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Pipped At The Post >>> "Martin Stockman" 01/06 10:23 am >>> >There was some business regarding Pin-Ups and Another Time (or was it These >Foolish Things) that has been discussed in these pages ; wasn't it alleged >that Bry released one of these albums early to trump David's card ? >Rivalry ? The green-eyed monster ? There is a competitive streak in our man >and thereby lies a tale methinks. Ah yes...'These Foolish Things' was released in October 1973 (and according to this months Record Collector only a month before 'Stranded'), with Bowie releasing 'Sorrow' as a single around the same time and the album on October 19. It is also well known that Bowie (at least) planned (if not recorded) a version of 'Ladytron' for that album. There are a number of outtakes from the 'PinUps' sessions that have yet to surface. And the Dame did of course cover 'If There Is Something' on the second Tin Machine album in 1991, and has always had good things to say about Bryan and Roxy (in a 1979 interview he commented on seeing Roxy in New York and how they had an excitable bass player - please come forward Mr.Tibbs). And they're still both my favorites - I wouldn't be able to choose between them. And I wouldn't want to either. SimonG - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 07:54:14 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Bowie I remember reading something about Bowie asking Bryan to act in his video for Blue Jean which was on his ' Tonight ' album 1984. Bowie plays two parts in this video but asked Bryan to do the part of Bowie trying to get in to see the show. Can anyone confirm this or elaborate on it. Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:14:07 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: RE: [AVALON] just a thought I'm sure Bryan knows competition's good for the soul. What would he do without it? On another note, Bryan doesn't seem to work with his bankers like Davey does (to cover how should we say the dips in fortune) unless I missed his IPO somewhere. Rich - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman [mailto:martinstockman@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:23 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] just a thought - ---------- > Rivalry ? The green-eyed monster ? There is a competitive streak in our man and thereby lies a tale methinks. In recent years their professional and personal lives have diverged so much as to make comparisons redundant. Whilst Bryan has got to grips with the nuances of the Landrover range and made records that clearly don't court the approval of teenage scribblers but warm the hearts of jaded Avalonions, David has re-introduced his Dick Van Dyke mockney vocal mannerisms, positioned himself as the Grand Old Man of Britpop and made a series of very poor albums. There was a time, however, when Alladin Sane, Diamond Dogs and Young Americans jousted with FYP, Stranded and Country Life. Not a bad period to have an 8-track cartridge in your Ford Anglia.... pip pip Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:19:26 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Bowie >>> 01/06 12:54 pm >>> >I remember reading something about Bowie asking Bryan to act in his video for >Blue Jean which was on his ' Tonight ' album 1984. Bowie plays two parts in >this video but asked Bryan to do the part of Bowie trying to get in to see >the show. I've never heard this one, although the 'Pop Star' character is called Screaming Lord Byron - mere coincidence? Below info from www.teenagewildlife.com: The video features David in two roles. A simple building painter (with a perpetual bandaid on his nose) trying to pick up a girl to take to the Screaming Lord Byron concert, and as Screaming Lord Byron himself. ???? SimonG - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 05:27:10 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pic on "Band On The Run" hi ya: *please* tell me, rod, that you are NOT talking about denny mclaine (sp?) here -- please ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 05:33:26 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: RE: [AVALON] manzanera.com/hootenany thanks, chris. so, he's something of a leadbelly admirer, then(?). that is, i believe 'rock island line' is a leadbel tune ... *if* i'm not mistaken ... >Hi, > >The guy you're referring to is Lonnie Donegan, the king of 'skiffle' >music, peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:34:59 +1030 From: "Ian Mitchell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry Pic on "Band On The Run" Hi Rod, Yeah it's definitely B.F. I believe he was in contact with Macca at the time because his brother Mike McGear was releasing a solo album at that time which featured "Sea Breezes". I doubt whether the pic was taken in Lagos. I was reading an article once about how difficult it was to record that album while living there etc as the local infrastructure was pretty basic. The article painted a scene not unlike the "Heart of Darkness" documentary painted of the filming of "Apocalypse Now". Somehow it doesn't seem to match lifestyle of the ex-Gasboard chanteur. EON > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Rod Le Cloux > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 3:00 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Pic on "Band On The Run" > > > Hi, > > I was just listening to Paul McCartney's "Band On The Run" 25th > Anniversary Edition CD and finally took the time to look at the book and > mini-poster. > > Wow, it sure looks like Ferry showed up in Lagos, Nigeria during the > recording!! Check out the the mini-poster with all the pictures on it. > Count four down and four across. He was either there or he has a twin. > > Let me know your thoughts as always.... > > Take Care, > > Rod > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Ream Subject: [AVALON] Jukeboxes, Band on the Run, and "Horoscope" In response to a couple of recent posts... Topic 1: There are record stores in the US that still sell vinyl 7 inch singles. The one I visit on trips to the Washington DC area is called Yesterday & Today Records and they're on the web at http://members.aol.com/yatrec/private/index.htm I recently referred a bunch of fans from the Richard Thompson mailing list there to pick up a few vinyl copies of Thompson's new single. New vinyl singles usually sell for $3 each there, if I remember right. ******************************** Topic 2: That Band on the Run guy who looks like Bryan on the cover photo came to mind instantly--that's Denny Laine with his hair pulled back and greased, isn't it?? ********************************** Topic 3: And now, my own question/topic.... I was browsing around some tape traders' web pages looking to build an REM collection (I'm a long-time fan of theirs, but never acquired any of their boots or tapes) and my eyes wandered to a listing for a Bryan boot called "Horoscope" that I recognized as the title of album he aborted and released "Taxi" instead. Here's the listing... >>>Bryan Ferry >>> -Horoscope unreleased LP (44:35) 9 I assume the "9" refers to 1-10 quality rating scale. Anyway, is this commonly available? I've only been back on Avalon for a couple of months now after a couple of years off the list, so maybe I missed a discussion of this boot. If that's the case, for myself and other newcomers, please tell us a little about this one. Thanks! - --Dan Ream Richmond, Virginia, USA - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:30:35 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 Here's an interesting little timepiece... I've been trawling through a load of old Tapes here at home (i've got thousands of the damn things) and most I haven't laid eyes on for years - just mostly things taped off the Radio, etc - when I caught the words 'Bryan Ferry' scrawled in my own handwriting on an ancient C-60. Or, to be precise, it said 'Easter Monday, 20th April, 1981, Radio 1, - The Bryan Ferry Show'. I'd completely forgotten about this (apologies if this was discussed in Avalonia in the dim, distant past before I joined) but it's basically the Man as 'nervous DJ' if you like, playing us a selection of his favourite records. It's just an hour long - and is very much a 'this is, that was' style of presenting - but just occasionally he does mention that he'd been recording a few 'Covers' at the time (just after he played WYLMT, coincidentally) - so maybe he started on that one way back then (?). He also mentions there was 'no definite plans' for the future of Roxy at that time, having just come back from Europe and Aussie on the F & B Tour. God only knows what ancient crappy machine I recorded the Show on - but an interesting little timepiece to hear - one that I'd totally forgotten about. The usual suspects are there - Shirelles, Ronettes, Beatles, Stones, Who, Jnr. Walker, Elvis, Stevie Wonder etc (all Singles of course - but R1 probably told him to keep it 'commercial' at it were) - he even chooses George McCrae ! Anyone else remember this ? Nice to hear, though. Back to trawling through Tapes now - amazing what one does on a day off... Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 14:29:34 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Pic on "Band On The Run" - A link >Check out the the mini-poster with all the pictures on it. > Count four down and four across. He was either there or he has a twin. Have a look at http://www.gernhardt.com/macca/a/botr2.html this has a scan of the poster, the details aren't fantastic, but this fellow certainly has the look of Mr Ferry. It's hard to tell really, I suppose I'll have to go and buy it. HMV have it in their sale for £9.99. And I can't believe they've got the jewel case remasters at £4.99 and £5.99. Incredible!!! But I won't stop until I have all the special card sleeves. SimonG - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:45:43 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Jukeboxes, Band on the Run, and "Horoscope" Re:Horoscope We would need to see the track listing but if it is unreleased material from the Horoscope sessions it is an incredible find. If you can secure a copy and let us have more details there is enough knowledge here to confirm it's authenticity. It could just be a remarkable piece of material. Or of course it could be testament to the terrible mess Ferry got into at that time... Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Ream [SMTP:dream@saturn.vcu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 2:32 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Jukeboxes, Band on the Run, and "Horoscope" > > > In response to a couple of recent posts... > > > Topic 1: > > There are record stores in the US that still sell vinyl 7 inch singles. > The one I visit on trips to the Washington DC area is called Yesterday & > Today Records and they're on the web at > > http://members.aol.com/yatrec/private/index.htm > > I recently referred a bunch of fans from the Richard Thompson mailing list > there to pick up a few vinyl copies of Thompson's new single. > > New vinyl singles usually sell for $3 each there, if I remember right. > > ******************************** > Topic 2: > > That Band on the Run guy who looks like Bryan on the cover photo came to > mind instantly--that's Denny Laine with his hair pulled back and greased, > isn't it?? > ********************************** > Topic 3: > > And now, my own question/topic.... > > I was browsing around some tape traders' web pages looking to build an REM > collection (I'm a long-time fan of theirs, but never acquired any of their > boots or tapes) and my eyes wandered to a listing for a Bryan boot called > "Horoscope" that I recognized as the title of album he aborted and > released "Taxi" instead. Here's the listing... > > >>>Bryan Ferry > >>> -Horoscope unreleased LP (44:35) 9 > > I assume the "9" refers to 1-10 quality rating scale. > > Anyway, is this commonly available? I've only been back on Avalon for a > couple of months now after a couple of years off the list, so maybe I > missed a discussion of this boot. If that's the case, for myself and other > newcomers, please tell us a little about this one. > > Thanks! > > --Dan Ream > Richmond, Virginia, USA > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:06:02 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 In a message dated 06/01/00 14:35:21 GMT Standard Time, johnny.reece@virgin.net writes: << Anyone else remember this ? Nice to hear, though. Back to trawling through Tapes now - amazing what one does on a day off... Reecey... >> I remember this, I think he played Roxy's Jealous Guy & My Only Love too. take more days off Johnny and see what else you can find John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 07:08:26 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jukeboxes, Band on the Run, and "Horoscope" dan ream writes: >I was browsing around some tape traders' web pages [snip] and my eyes >wandered to a listing for a Bryan boot called "Horoscope" that I recognized >as the title of album he aborted and released "Taxi" instead. Here's the >listing... >>>Bryan Ferry >>> -Horoscope unreleased LP (44:35) 9 so, *what* web page in particular was this?! thanks. peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:23:40 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jukeboxes, Band on the Run, and "Horoscope" On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Dan Ream wrote: > Topic 1: > > There are record stores in the US that still sell vinyl 7 inch singles. For what it's worth, I still buy vinyl. Many years ago, when I used to spend more time in Connecticut, the guy who ran the Phoenix record shop (which actually did burn down at one point and was reborn in a different locaton) in Waterbury used to put aside stuff and show it to me when I came in. One day I asked him why he did that (since I'd never asked him to). "You're the girl who likes vinyl." Uh, OK. (You would-be comedians can hold your comments. Thank you.) > >>>Bryan Ferry > >>> -Horoscope unreleased LP (44:35) 9 > > I assume the "9" refers to 1-10 quality rating scale. > > Anyway, is this commonly available? I've only been back on Avalon for a > couple of months now after a couple of years off the list, so maybe I > missed a discussion of this boot. If that's the case, for myself and other > newcomers, please tell us a little about this one. A word or two of warning: Making copies of released materials, in this instance including boots of live performances, is completely different, legally speaking, from copying and distributing unreleased material, particularly something which has been suppressed by the artist him/herself. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:23:51 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 I'll apologise in advance. David Bowie did a similar thing in 1979 when he released Lodger. It was a 2 hour show where he played his favorite tracks, including 2HB and For Your Pleasure. This is also when he made the comment about seeing Roxy in NY. What Who track did Bryan play? I'd never have put him down as a Who fan myself. What a surprise. SimonG johnny.reece@virgin.net writes: << Anyone else remember this ? Nice to hear, though. Back to trawling through Tapes now - amazing what one does on a day off... Reecey... >> I remember this, I think he played Roxy's Jealous Guy & My Only Love too. take more days off Johnny and see what else you can find John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:31:40 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Horoscope Horoscope began in 1989 after Bryan's tour. By 1992, several mixes, cuttings, rerecordings etc he and his record company shelved the project. In 1992 he was asked to do an Elvis song for the Honeymoon in Vegas soundtrack. He recorded 3 Elvis songs and used Are You Lonesome Tonight?. He was inspired during these sessions to record more covers which he did over a 5-6 month period and released the album Taxi in march 1993. After the promotion of Taxi was out of the way he returned to the Horoscope tapes and found the inspiration to finish the album off. He re-recorded the vocals and rythmn section using tecniques he learned during Taxi, he re wrote some of the lyrics and wrote some new songs. as the whole project had changed substantially, he renamed it and released it as 'Mamouna' in September 1994. If this tape is indeed one of the pre 1992 cuts presented to the record company, then it will contain unreleased material and also earlier recordings of some of the 'Mamouna' songs. This is the holy grail of Ferry recordings. we cant let this past us if it is the genuine article. Could you give us further details on this. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:48:24 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Horoscope On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 JObinv01@aol.com wrote: > of some of the 'Mamouna' songs. This is the holy grail of Ferry recordings. > we cant let this past us if it is the genuine article. I have to ask: why is it that a demo version of a song which was never released but which was put on Strictly Confidential was deemed so super-secret that no one was allowed to speculate as to where it might have been obtained from, but a more cavalier attitude exists towards obtaining and distributing this item? I am confused and would appreciate it if someone could explain whatever I am missing to me. Perhaps the open distribution of such an item is indeed OK with Mr. Ferry and his managment as long as no profit is made? Because in that case I withdraw all of my questions. I would say that if this is indeed a genuine copy of _Horoscope_--andI know that there are other ones floating about--then there is probably a good, read "legal", reason that it has not become widely available. As Jerry Lee Lewis once said, "Think about it, darlin'." Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:59:14 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Horoscope >If this tape is indeed one of the pre 1992 cuts presented to the record >company, then it will contain unreleased material and also earlier recordings >of some of the 'Mamouna' songs. This is the holy grail of Ferry recordings. >we cant let this past us if it is the genuine article. i would be extremely skeptical. is there a track list? just because it's called 'horoscope' doesn't mean it will have any of ferry's horoscope material on it. victor (who hopes his cynicism is unfounded) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:44:12 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dav=ECd?= Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Bowie Bryan was asked to play the part of the mostly silent roommate. Bryan declined, and a look-alike (sort of) was used instead. At 07:54 AM 01/06/2000 EST, you wrote: >I remember reading something about Bowie asking Bryan to act in his video for >Blue Jean which was on his ' Tonight ' album 1984. Bowie plays two parts in >this video but asked Bryan to do the part of Bowie trying to get in to see >the show. > >Can anyone confirm this or elaborate on it. > >Regards > >John O'Brien > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > > Cheers, ______ / ____ \ __ / / / / / / / / / / __ / / / / / / \_\ / / / / / / ___ __ _ __ ____/ / / / / / / \ \ \ / / / / / __ / / /___/ / / /_\ \ \ \/ / / / / /_/ / __ __ __ __ __ /_______/ /_/ \_\ \__/ /_/ \____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ DavdMock@America.Net CPL593H! -Bryan Ferry, 1972 ____________________________________ |~|Have a look at my web site... |~| |~|Shakatak |~| |~|Swing Out Sister |~| |~|80's pop |~| |~| (Peter Godwin, Fashion, |~| |~| Modern Romance, Belouis Some,|~| |~| Strange Advance, Mari Wilson)|~| |~|Atlanta Bands |~| |~| (Rose Whipperr & Marc Stowe, |~| |~| The Brains, Face Of Concern, |~| |~| Design, Liking The Idea) |~| |~|Lounge Music |~| |~|Hamlet & |~| |~|Raymond Chandler pages |~| |~|An Atlanta Argosy |~| |~|Lotsa cool stuff! |~| - ------------------------------------ http://america.net/~davdmock/ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:19:24 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Bowie/Wings/BSB In a message dated 06/01/00 12:57:44 GMT Standard Time, JObinv01@aol.com writes: << I remember reading something about Bowie asking Bryan to act in his video for Blue Jean which was on his ' Tonight ' album 1984. Bowie plays two parts in this video but asked Bryan to do the part of Bowie trying to get in to see the show. >> Yeah, I remember reading this John, seemingly Bowie wanted BF to play some guy (Bowie) sitting in the audience watching Bowie perform, or something like that,.but he wisely knocked it back. Also, the picture on the "Band on the run" poster is definitely BF, I remember my brother buying this album (to my horror) when it was released back in 74 and was amazed to see the man's photo, why it is there is anybody's guess. There is a small photo of "The bride stripped bare by her bachelor's even" in the booklet of REM's excellent "New adventures in hi-fi" CD booklet, also the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band do a song called TBSB! small world, eh? JF - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 17:24:28 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Horoscope - ---------- >From: Colleen Matan > I have to ask: why is it that a demo version of a song which was never > released but which was put on Strictly Confidential was deemed so > super-secret that no one was allowed to speculate as to where it might > have been obtained from, but a more cavalier attitude exists towards > obtaining and distributing this item? I am confused and would appreciate > it if someone could explain whatever I am missing to me. Perhaps the > open distribution of such an item is indeed OK with Mr. Ferry and his > managment as long as no profit is made? Because in that case I withdraw > all of my questions. > > I would say that if this is indeed a genuine copy of _Horoscope_--andI > know that there are other ones floating about--then there is probably a > good, read "legal", reason that it has not become widely available. > I too doubt that we've stumbled upon the Holy Grail. However I genuinely can't understand Colleen's problem here. Are we the protectors of Bryan's estate ? He has no conception of how this item would interest us and would have to be having a very bad day to set his lawyers upon his most hardened fans. The Avalon demos were donated to the Strictly Confidential CD by an Avalonion who wishes to remain anonymous. He also asked us not to debate the whys and wherefores. I'm sure he/she has good reasons. Its not a legal issue but a courtesy. This alleged copy of Horoscope has become available on the Internet. We haven't stolen the tape. Even if it's the real thing - a big "if" - the worst we're doing is distributing some work deemed not worthy of release by his record company. Chances are Bryan quite liked some of it but was advised by the suits that it wouldn't shift units. We're getting a mutual friend to hand over a copy of A Perfumed Sigh to David Enthoven and are confident that he'll be delighted, and perhaps Bryan himself flattered, by the video. We aren't talking about a penniless artist here. Martini - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:20:55 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] More profiles The Avalonsite at http://home.op.se/opse3503 is updated with three more profiles: Victor Hasting, Jim Mackay (Andy's alias...?) and David Neuhaus. All from North America! /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 17:27:04 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 - ---------- >From: "Johnny Reece" > The usual suspects are there - Shirelles, > Ronettes, Beatles, Stones, Who, Jnr. Walker, Elvis, Stevie Wonder etc (all > Singles of course - but R1 probably told him to keep it 'commercial' at it > were) - he even chooses George McCrae ! Full track listing please Johnny.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:26:06 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 In a message dated 06/01/00 02:35:45 GMT Standard Time, johnny.reece@virgin.net writes: << Anyone else remember this ? Nice to hear, though. Back to trawling through Tapes now - amazing what one does on a day off... >> I remember taping this Johnny and could not believe how nervous BF sounded, especially the bit where he thought that "My only Love" would have made a great single, he then mumbled something about that if it were up to him it would have been (in a perfect world). JF - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:29:48 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] Record Collector > >Ah yes...'These Foolish Things' was released in October 1973 (and >according to this months Record Collector only a month before 'Stranded'), Just to whet your appetites: I'm in the middle of editing a _massive_ article/interview from the Record Collector that darling Robert Fedder was kind enough to send me. I'll let you know when it's uploaded, it's very good reading. Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:33:30 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry as DJ, 1981 In a message dated 06/01/00 17:30:56 GMT Standard Time, JFROXY@aol.com writes: << I remember taping this Johnny and could not believe how nervous BF sounded, especially the bit where he thought that "My only Love" would have made a great single, he then mumbled something about that if it were up to him it would have been (in a perfect world). >> He said that each album has a key track that all the others fit around and this was Flesh + Blood's J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:32:17 EST From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Vinyl, and Record Stores Colleen wrote: Subject: Re: [AVALON] Horoscope john o'b writes: If this tape is indeed one of the pre 1992 cuts presented to the record company, then it will contain unreleased material and also earlier recordings of some of the 'Mamouna' songs. This is the holy grail of Ferry recordings. we cant let this past us if it is the genuine article. hmmmm ... how shall i put this? well, i admit that i'd be interested in this too - if it's the read deal (so, no offense to john) and far be it from me to put the kaibosh on other's fun, but ... well, i remember a christmas-time discussion about piracy (oooh - oooh) ... ring any bells? however, i have to say that a lot of this whole thing (no, i *don't* want to start a HUGE flame war/argument) hinges on profit vs. non-profit. on the other hand, if my suggestions of a 'b-sides' rarities cd-tree is 'piracy', then ..?.. i leave it to you, my friends! those of you who were SO worried about the legal sharks coming into feed on avalonia ... where art thou now? i'm not sure how i'd feel about acquiring this item. it's a rather grey area, but i have to concede interest on my part. whether i'd actually get it ... ? let's hear the other opinions, please! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #444 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest