From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #414 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, December 16 1999 Volume 04 : Number 414 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] RFH review ["Garratt, Chris" ] Re: [AVALON] CD tree opinions ["Jason Gibbs" ] RE: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover ["Turner, Chris (cturner)" ] Re: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover [ShyGuy8119@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover [Alexander Papazoglu ] [AVALON] Reply re. As Time Goes By [MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty)] [none] [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Declercq?= ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon Logistics [Kicki Gustafsson ] [AVALON] "The Best Jazz Vocalist Ever" [RODEISLRED@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Avalon Logistics ["Mary Rose Chibnall" ] Re: [AVALON] "The Best Jazz Vocalist Ever" [Noam Bronstein Subject: [AVALON] RFH review The Grauniad 16.12.99 Melodrama manicured Bryan Ferry Royal Festival Hall, London Bryan's new solo album of popular standards of yesteryear is called As Time Goes By, and quite a lot of it had when he eventually called it a night with a crowd-pleasing rendition of Do the Strand. Despite the praise which has been lavished on the disc, tepid foxtrots and Orient Express nostalgia really aren't Ferry's bag. Luckily the eerily ageless Bry seems vaguely aware of the fact, and for this show he'd cast his net wide to haul in some of the less obvious material from his Roxy Music catalogue, alongside some of his better-known solo work. Ferry's best music has always managed to convey style, menace and a hint of sleaze, abetted by his surreal sense of pitch and quizzical phrasing. None of the above were evident in Falling in Love Again (nauseatingly bland), Just One of Those Things (exasperatingly coy) or Easy Living (utterly unconvincing). He must have noticed the galvanising effect on the audience's attention when he swapped his metaphorical top hat and cane for something out of the Roxy wardrobe. Sunset, mostly just voice and piano, was a perfect specimen of Bryan at his broodiest and moochiest (`sunswept flamingos must sleep/seems like themes from my dreams'), while Out of the Blue was a reminder of Roxy Music's gift for manicured melodrama with a kick in the tail. The latter was supplied by a shrieking, amplified violin solo from one of Ferry's all-girl string quartet, conspicuous for their decolletage and skin-tight leatherette trousers. Some things haven't changed, then. The inevitable snag was that trying to combine the twin poles of irony-free crooning and irony-packed thermonuclear glam-rock sometimes placed intolerable strains on Ferry's band. The guitarist, a Des Lynam lookalike in a dinner suit, wrestled manfully with his Telecaster, and the bald-headed bass-man thumped away diligently, but they lacked the precise cutting edge Ferry usually musters for his rock shows. Street Life cried out for a transfusion of manic intensity, and Love is the Drug could have used some more snap in its jaws. Not that the audience minded. Much better were a sparse but affecting Carrickfergus and a lush, evocative Avalon, where his arsenal of brass and strings was deployed to potent effect. Best of the lot was a grandiose Jealous Guy, complete with Ferry's trademark whistle-solo. Preposterous or not, Bry's irregular returns to the stage are always worth seeing. Adam Sweeting ____________________________________ IMPORTANT - this e-mail and the information that it contains may be confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Access by the intended recipient only is authorised. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on any information contained in this e-mail is hereby excluded. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Copyright in this e-mail and attachments created by us belongs to Hammond Suddards: the author also asserts the right to be identified as such and object to any misuse. Hammond Suddards is regulated by the Law Society in the conduct of investment business. The partners in the firm are solicitors or registered foreign lawyers and a list of their names can be inspected at 7 Devonshire Square, Cutlers Garden, London EC2M 4YH; 2 Park Lane, Leeds LS3 1ES; at our other offices in Lloyds of London, Manchester, Bradford and Brussels; and at http://www.hammondsuddards.co.uk ____________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:52:29 -0000 From: "Garratt, Chris" Subject: [AVALON] Sheffield review Bryan Ferry City Hall, Sheffield IT'S a sobering fact of life for rock fans of a certain vintage that the much lamented Roxy Music bit the dust the best part of two decades ago. Since those heady days, Roxy fans have had to rely on the occasional tour from Bryan Ferry for live concerts, with rumours of a reunion increasing as the years go by. The band's old main man was in irrepressible form on Sunday night at Sheffield City Hall, the closest show to the Midlands on his current tour, cutting his own inimitable path through a two-hour set of richly varied material. Kicking off with Cole Porter style crooners from the new album As Time Goes By, Ferry, backed by a classical orchestra, delighted the purists with tracks as diverse as Chance Meeting, Sunset, Carrickfergus and Avalon. But, predictably, it was the old favourites such as Street Life, Jealous Guy, Love is the Drug and the storming finale of Do the Strand which prompted a mass stampede towards the front of the stage as the set rocked to a memorable climax. Ferry, for all his current predilection for 30s-style ballroom love songs, remains one of rock's few pioneers, a hugely versatile and talented artist. But it's the old Roxy stuff that really stirs the blood and nights like this emphasise what we're all missing. If Ferry had been joined on stage by Messrs Manzanera, Mackay, Thompson and Brian Eno for a final encore of Virginia Plain, the thousands at Sheffield City Hall would have been transported to seventh heaven. Get them back together, Bryan - soon. JON GRIFFIN. Copyright Birmingham Post & Mail Ltd, 1999. EVENING MAIL 14/12/1999 P36 ____________________________________ IMPORTANT - this e-mail and the information that it contains may be confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Access by the intended recipient only is authorised. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on any information contained in this e-mail is hereby excluded. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Copyright in this e-mail and attachments created by us belongs to Hammond Suddards: the author also asserts the right to be identified as such and object to any misuse. Hammond Suddards is regulated by the Law Society in the conduct of investment business. The partners in the firm are solicitors or registered foreign lawyers and a list of their names can be inspected at 7 Devonshire Square, Cutlers Garden, London EC2M 4YH; 2 Park Lane, Leeds LS3 1ES; at our other offices in Lloyds of London, Manchester, Bradford and Brussels; and at http://www.hammondsuddards.co.uk ____________________________________ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 03:43:15 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: [AVALON] Avalon Logistics At the current moment there are 277 people sub*cribed to the list, although there are a number of people with multiple subscriptions, and inevitably a few 'ghosts' who remain here even though their e-mail is no longer valid. Membership has grown gradually and remains fairly stable, although there are people joining and leaving all the time. For example 10 people have joined in the last week, and seven left. If you would like to receive the digest version of the list, delivered once daily rather that numerous individual e-mails consult the FAQ at: http://www.smoe.org/lists/avalon.info The Archives for this newsgroup are at: http://www.smoe.org/lists/avalon/ where you can read our illustrious past. Chris - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:51:31 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: [AVALON] RE: The Mysterty Answered Calling all Newcastle attendees. See you all in the City Hall bar before or if not afterwards to go on to bigger, better, mind bending times!! I'm off on a train and out of contact until Tuesday, so to everyone else (Glasgow, Bristol, Manccieland) have a fab time. Sadly, Croydon was very flat after the high of the RFH, with dodgy sound, lots of little kids and family around us and a tired and emotional Bryan mummbling endearingly yet incoherently between numbers. Fought off a jobs worth to bring you some shots, sent to Kicki, and literally bumped into the One and Only on my way to the car park. No chance it seems of the Bogus Man or More Than This apprearing this tour, Bryan says there's just not enough time. Now the answer to the question everyone's been dying to ask. "Bryan, can I ask you something personal?" Bryan looks paniced "Socks" "Socks?" says Bry "Socks." Say I, "Black or white?" "Generally?" "Well, yes" "White." "And tonight?" "Black" From the mouth of the elegant one himself. And your intrepid reporter got a Christmas kiss for her trouble. And Richard, what a way to break your "I've met Bryan" virginity. Style man, style. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Swift [mailto:richard_swift@lineone.net] Sent: 15 December 1999 22:22 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] RFH Hi John - What a night - we were out until a little after midnight - as Reecey posted we found an Italian restaurant for something to eat and a quick drink - just about the only place open but an improvement on MacDonalds! The pre - concert drink was good - look forward to more of the same and then some on Saturday. If you can remind me of the guest house name and 'phone number I'll check it out for additional accommodation. Cheers, Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 9:59 PM Subject: [AVALON] RFH > There isn't much I can say about RFH as it has been covered already, then > everyone else got a 700 mile start from me. > > The gathering of Avalonians was almost as big a highlight for me as the show > was. My sartorial elegance has already been covered by the others. I > definately had the smartest kilt in the hall. It was great to meet so many > people again and some others too for the first time. > > As Martin had said, the 3 violins at the end of Out Of The Blue was > breathtaking, it fair put a tilt in my kilt. The music was transcribed > straight off Country Life. All the other archive songs have been transcribed > perfectly. Chance Meeting has every note Graham Simpsom played in the > original, Bitter Sweet too. The difference though in Out Of The Blue is that > the string section add themselves to it with there youth, enthusiasm and > obvious passion for the Ferry originals. The other musicians in these numbers > can seem to be a wee bit out of place and almost too clinically perfect. you > can transcribe note for note where Manzanera's hand was on his guitar and > these guys will play it no problem, but to put the aggression, enthusiasm > and belief in what you are doing on paper is an impossibility. > > I am not knocking these guys, they were shit hot at what thay are all about > and that is the big band arrangement type stuff. We can't have our cake and > eat it. Ferry wanted a 30's album for years and a 30's tour to follow it, he > has gone half way with us and played us some sorely missed classics live > again. If we have to have Charlie Watts grandfather trying to do the Paul > Thompson bit then it's a small price to pay. > > A special thanks to Han for the work he has done for the Strictly > Confidential CD, .........what artwork....... great stuff. Has any one > noticed that the track Movie Move Me has a guitar break from Impossible > Guitar which is on Heart Still Beating and Phil's Primitive Guitars. > > I would also like to make clear that the person in the skirt who ran onstage > and kissed Bryan was not me. > > J.O'B. > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:17:58 +0100 From: Alexander Papazoglu Subject: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover I was just looking for mp3's and I came over a cover of a song for europe by Dave Gahan. Who is this guy and have you heard of this cover? And if I wan't a copy of the boston boot is Han the man I should contact? Alexander Papazoglu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:09:29 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] CD tree opinions I don't know who'll share these views, and I don't want to be a spoilsport, but making a cd tree of the tracks below has the potential to land us in very hot water indeed. OK, so bootlegs are illegal, but they are usually made up of tracks that are not commercially available and something that otherwise we would not have access to (the Boston boot, ASSH are recent examples). The problem with this particular proposition is that all these ARE commercially available (or have been), therefore we become counterfeiters and pirates. Trading this collection privately (ie off list) is fine, but making it an Avalon cd tree makes me feel uneasy. I would hate to see an excellent idea like the cd tree being abused and could have potentially damaging consequences. It is still possible to pick up these tracks in their original or re-released forms. I shall detail below. And anyway, it's fun hunting these things down (even easier on the internet). Also, Bryan has mentioned recently that he wants to do a box set of his solo material to mirror Roxy Music's The Thrill Of It All, so the likelihood is that these tracks will see the light of day as part of that set (hopefully). >>> "mark shanahan" 12/14 9:40 pm >>> and now, I have a bold suggestion -- which would be -- why not make the following list of b-sides, etc. part of the next cd tree? for those of us who have payed less attention to the ferry details ... and those are: As The World Turns She's Leaving Home Four Letter Love Broken Wings these four available on the Japanese Mamouna ep and on various bsides in the 70s and 80s Valentine (Instrumental) Nocturne Crazy Love Feel The Need Are You Lonesome Tonight? Bonus tracks on the TAXI cd singles, also (with the exception of Lonesome) were 1980s bsides. He'll Have To Go Help Me On 'The Ultimate Collection' released in 1988 and still available. Also individually released as singles. Is Your Love Strong Enough? On the 'More Than This' collection and the Japanese 'The Greatest' collection Dance With Life single Sonnet No 18 Princess Diana tribute album I'll See You Again Noel Coward. 20th century Blues I'm sure there are others on the list equally non-diligent so as to not yet have acquired these items and who are interested enough to make a cd tree (with other items, possibly) worthwhile. no? responses, opinions please. THE CD / TAPE / VIDEO TREE GUIDELINE INTRODUCTION: Welcome to the Avalon list. This mail list is devoted to Roxy Music and related artist and bands. If you give this list a chance, I think you`ll find that it has a lot to offer in the way of Roxy Music news and items of interest. There are many music related mail lists available on the Internet but I`m sure you`ll find the Avalon list is special and different. One thing that we offer that is of interest to many people is a selection of rare and unique material not available to the mainstream public (read into this bootlegs) by way of out "CD/Video trees." The Roxy Music bootlegs distributed via our "trees" are aimed at people who love listening to Roxy, want to hear interesting, good Roxy, and groan at the hint of another damn no-end-in-sight CD box set that seem to re-hash the same old studio cuts, "b- sides", and "special mixes" over and over. Bootlegs offer a unique glimpse of the band on their natural turf....the stage. Please keep in mind that no one on the Avalon list is responsible for the existence of bootlegs albums, we merely have access to them, enjoy them and wish to spread the music. I`ve met many people on this mail list who were stunned by the brilliance of a certain song done live on a bootleg and reevaluated their whole attitude to them. But first and foremost, the Avalon list is NOT just about bootlegs and anyone focussing only on this subject is missing out on some often stimulating, sometimes hilarious and most interesting people. WHAT A "TREE" IS AND HOW IT`S DONE: A "tree", as in Tape/Video/Cd "tree", is unique material relating to Roxy Music which is compiled by a person(s) and offered to the list. If enough interest is generated, then list members capable of producing CD-R and tape copies (known as "Master Holders") will contact the person with the material. A number of "masters" are made and sent to a number of "Master Holders". When the "Master Holders" are ready, they will announce it to the list and anyone interested in a copy would simply post a request to the list copies will go out to those interested. Hence, "a tree." Typically, anyone wanting a copy will need to send the appropriate number of blank media (video tapes, audio cassette tapes or CD-R) and a stamped, addressed bubble-lined shipping package. The "Master Holder" will make your copy and send it to you. That`s it. THE RULES: 1) A CD/Tape/Video (T/V/CD) Tree can only be initiated by a person(s) possessing enough Roxy related material to put (at least) a tape together. 2) NO ONE CAN VOLUNTEER ANOTHER`S MATERIAL. 3) In no way is a profit made by anyone initiating or taking part as a master holder. They will always be done for the cost of the media and shipping only. WHAT`S AVAILABLE: Past trees have included: Brian Ferry-Wolverhampton, England '95 with Robin Trower The Stockholm show of 01.27.76, 2CDs, Excellent Stereo '75 New York/London show, 1CD Excellent Stereo Various BBC broadcast '72-'74, 1CD Excellent Stereo '74 Boston show, 2CD Very good+ mono audience recording Editions Of Roxy- A compilation of 15 Roxy songs covered by other bands. All Styles Served Here - A compilation of rare material WHAT`S IN THE FUTURE: A Video collection. All Styles Served Here 2 - Another compilation of rare material - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:33:56 From: "Jason Gibbs" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD tree opinions On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:09:29 +0000, Simon Galloway wrote: >I don't know who'll share these views, and I don't want to be a spoilsport, but making a cd tree of the tracks below has the potential to land us in very hot water indeed. > >OK, so bootlegs are illegal, but they are usually made up of tracks that are not commercially available and something that otherwise we would not have access to (the Boston boot, ASSH are recent examples). The problem with this particular proposition is that all these ARE commercially available (or have been), therefore we become counterfeiters and pirates. > >Trading this collection privately (ie off list) is fine, but making it an Avalon cd tree makes me feel uneasy. I would hate to see an excellent idea like the cd tree being abused and could have potentially damaging consequences. If you duplicate commercial music recordings, you will be pirating Bryan's material. Is that really what you want? I think it would get you into a great deal of trouble and certainly not win you any friends from the Ferry team. Jason - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:44:41 -0800 From: "Turner, Chris (cturner)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover Hi, Dave Gahan is the lead singer of Depeche Mode, and this track was recorded for (or at least appeared on) a Roxy tribute album called Dreamhome Heartaches on B5 Records. I believe John Taylor, bass player for Duran x2 was behind the project. In 1981? I saw Depeche Mode's first nationwide tour. As an encore they played "The Price of Love" erroneously attributing it to Roxy Music. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Papazoglu [SMTP:alexander.papazoglu@telia.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 1:18 PM > To: Avalon > Subject: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover > > I was just looking for mp3's and I came over a cover of a song for > europe by Dave Gahan. > Who is this guy and have you heard of this cover? > > And if I wan't a copy of the boston boot is Han the man I should > contact? > > Alexander Papazoglu > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:56:16 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: [AVALON] Ferry at RFH Seems like an understatement to say you all had a wonderful time there! It seems that Ferry got some fine reviews overall. In any case, I'd say he's going to have to be a tough guy next year when that contemplated album comes out. The reviewers are going to be on his case. On the new work, I hope he fashions a great sound so that he could satisfy himself, the Roxyites, the Ferryites and everybody else who would come to him for the first time at this stage in his career. I really don't want the reviewers' to be stingy with those stars. Rich(USA) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:04:29 EST From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover In a message dated 12/16/99 8:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, alexander.papazoglu@telia.com writes: << I was just looking for mp3's and I came over a cover of a song for europe by Dave Gahan. Who is this guy and have you heard of this cover? >> Dave Gahan is the singer for Depeche Mode...as for the cover, I didn't know ASFE was ever covered by anybody.... Paul - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:19:11 +0100 From: Alexander Papazoglu Subject: Re: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover Ok Thanks! "Turner, Chris (cturner)" wrote: > Hi, > > Dave Gahan is the lead singer of Depeche Mode, and this track was recorded > for (or at least appeared on) a Roxy tribute album called Dreamhome > Heartaches on B5 Records. I believe John Taylor, bass player for Duran x2 was > behind the project. > > In 1981? I saw Depeche Mode's first nationwide tour. As an encore they played > "The Price of Love" erroneously attributing it to Roxy Music. > > Regards > > Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Papazoglu [SMTP:alexander.papazoglu@telia.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 1:18 PM > > To: Avalon > > Subject: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover > > > > I was just looking for mp3's and I came over a cover of a song for > > europe by Dave Gahan. > > Who is this guy and have you heard of this cover? > > > > And if I wan't a copy of the boston boot is Han the man I should > > contact? > > > > Alexander Papazoglu > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:43:52 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Reply to Peace Concert Do remember this is on (cable only) on Dec. 16 .......... Bryans new endeavor should knock our socks off. The guitarist with Annie Lennox is calobrating with him . Release date for U.S.A. should be May. I believe a tour will follow with ( keep everything crossed) Roxy reunion. Details are being worked on. What a tour & a Video this would be ...........M.K............................. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:48:18 PST From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] what a show ... greetings all: for those who attended the RFH gig, congratulations! it sounds like it was quite a night - thanks for the posts everyone! i'm still *quite* irate with myself for not having taken a camera, nor waiting to meet the man. i can't remember the last concert i attended where cameras were allowed and i really didn't think it would be possible to shake hands w/bryan! arrrrggghh-orama!! sounds like a great gig. i know the detroit show was one of the concert highlights of my entire life! but this takes the cake: >I was to spend the day showing Jim Lawn around Liverpool but in the middle >of last week Bryan was asked to appear at the Nobel Peace Prize concert and >invited Jim along. Since he had already made arrangements to be in >Liverpool with me and two other scousers >(Gary and Sheila) Bryan asked him to invite the three of us along too. this should occur to all of us - at least once! well, i must say we seem to have some rather well-connected individuals on this list, in one way or another. good GRIEF! ahhhhhhh! that's great, richard - good for you! re: my suggestion of the various b-sides as a (side?) cd-tree. i guess it all depends on how many of us are missing these tracks, but regardless - i've found someone stateside who has all but two. those being 'four letter love' & 'she's leaving home'. this person (wishing to remain anon) is willing to make a master, if we could get these two songs on DAT. and this person can also do the artwork as well ... please e-me directly, for those interested. whether we actually get a cd tree going or not, it would be great if some kind soul could send these two songs on DAT to me. w/no tree, i'd be willing to compensate you. again, e-me direct please. and (one more time) ... DOES ANYONE STATESIDE KNOW WHERE THE ATGB SINGLE IS AVAILABLE?! THANKS!! peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:01:13 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Reply re. As Time Goes By Stateside people, try your Best Buy Store if you have one. Also Blockbuster Music,& Circuit City. Blockbuster has helped me in ordering. Hope this helps you........M.K............... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:59:53 +-100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Declercq?= Subject: [none] Hi Eve 'r Yb O'Dy Just wanted to wish all of you a great week-end ! BTW where are Kicky, Han and all the others gone ? Fred - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:48:28 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Where Or When Out of all the 'new' songs from ATGB, Where Or When is surely one of the best performances on the album, and at Golders Green and RFH it got the longest round of applause of all these songs. From reading in the programme about this song I went and had a rummage in the Jazz FM cd library and found Ella Fitzgerald's version (as well as her reading of These Foolish Things). She recorded it in 1956, and is available on 'The Rodgers And Hart Songbook Volume 1', one of the many excellent 'Songbook' albums Ella recorded. Her version swings a lot more than Bryan's and doesn't match the eerie quality that overrides in his version, but it is still an excellent version from the best jazz vocalist ever. This is what it says in the sleevenotes: "For Rodger and Hart, loneliness may have been puzzling - but so was love. In two of their best-known songs, 'I Didn't Know What Time It Was' and 'Where Or When', the singer feels totally lost - not unhappy, just overcome. Did any lyricist but Hart so commonly use the deja-vu phenomenon? Rodgers reports that they got letters from psychology professors telling the songwriters that 'Where Or When' was useful to them in their lectures. The lyric speaks directly of a feeling of wonder and fright; singing and hearing it represented provides relief. In that spirit Ella sings 'Where Or When' slowly and in strict meter, as if to say, "everything seems to be in place - but it isn't quite." So there. A lukewarm review appears in The Guardian today of the RFH show, I never liked that paper anyway!! So how did Bryan greet Croydon? Another thought. Does anyone know how familiar the band are with the Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music back catalogue? As someone commented, those songs have been very well transcribed from the originals, right down to the bass parts on Chance Meeting, Sunset and Bitter Sweet, and the string parts on Out Of The Blue, plus the arrangement of Street Life closely emulates the original (apart from the slacker drummer). If I were Bryan I'd get a more versatile and kick-ass rhythm section, and Phil Manzanera to do guest spots. He should also keep the string and horn sections as they work very well and add a great texture to the whole sound. I'll shut up now, must do some work. SimonG - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:28:32 +0800 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon Logistics >At the current moment there are 277 people sub*cribed to the list, although >there are a number of people with multiple subscriptions, and inevitably a >few 'ghosts' who remain here even though their e-mail is no longer valid. > >Membership has grown gradually and remains fairly stable, although there are >people joining and leaving all the time. For example 10 people have joined in >the last week, and seven left. > >If you would like to receive the digest version of the list, delivered once >daily rather that numerous individual e-mails consult the FAQ at: > >http://www.smoe.org/lists/avalon.info > >The Archives for this newsgroup are at: > >http://www.smoe.org/lists/avalon/ > >where you can read our illustrious past. > > > >Chris And don't forget the Avalonsite at http://home.op.se/opse3503 ! We now have 40 members profiled here, and I would love to see many more! Just mail me with the info you want to put on the site and I'll put it up for you. /Kicki G, Webmistress - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:35:05 EST From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] "The Best Jazz Vocalist Ever" In a message dated 12/16/99 5:27:03 PM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: << the best jazz vocalist ever. >> Ella Fitzgerald?????? WHAT a LOAD of CRAP. A great technician, yes, but "the best jazz vocalist ever"? 'Better' than Billie Holiday? I'd even take Etta Jones over Ella! - --Red - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:38:14 CST From: "Mary Rose Chibnall" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon Logistics hi, everyone. it's me, Mary #1. Chris are you the person in charge of the list? is that why you gave us all of this information? Mary Rose ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:04:57 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover You got me curious so I listened to it. Horrible. Bloody horrible and bloody awful. Shame and disgrace. Filth from the sewer. Bloody unlistenable rubbish. Noam - --- Alexander Papazoglu wrote: > I was just looking for mp3's and I came over a cover of a song for > europe by Dave Gahan. > Who is this guy and have you heard of this cover? > > And if I wan't a copy of the boston boot is Han the man I should > contact? > > Alexander Papazoglu > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] "The Best Jazz Vocalist Ever" Wouldn't it also depend on the era? I'd take Astrud Gilberto for bossa nova anyday. Noam - --- RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/16/99 5:27:03 PM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: > > << the best jazz vocalist ever. >> > > Ella Fitzgerald?????? WHAT a LOAD of CRAP. A great technician, > yes, but > "the best jazz vocalist ever"? 'Better' than Billie Holiday? I'd > even take > Etta Jones over Ella! > > --Red > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:36:05 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Song for Europe cover I think it is the lead singer from Depeche Mode ? Dave Martin - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:52:12 -0800 From: Betsy Fowler Subject: [AVALON] Strictly Confidential/A Perfumed Sigh To the Martin-Et and other UK Avaloners, once you return to earth from the Outer Ferrysphere- Don't forget to post instructions to nonBrits on how to sign up for copies of the delectables named above. Local radio station here in San Fran. played "Out of the Blue" JUST as I was reading posts about the magical violin crescendo during the Festie-Hall show. So I called the station to vote for it as best of set [1974] and of course it won by a landslide, beating out Wings, Stevie Wonder, ELO and others! I think we may be in for a Roxy/Ferry revival...... Keep the reviews/backstage stories coming! Betsy - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:25:42 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Strictly Confidential/A Perfumed Sigh At 10:52 AM 12/16/99 -0800, Betsy Fowler wrote: > Local radio station here in San Fran. played "Out of the Blue" JUST > as I was reading posts about the magical violin crescendo during the > Festie-Hall show. So I called the station to vote for it as best of > set [1974] and of course it won by a landslide, beating out Wings, One vote came from here too (first time I'd ever called in). :-) And two things occurred to me while standing in that sweet spot between the speakers: - I've not yet heard a radio station play one of the remastered versions of any RM/BF - if at all possible, I'm going to have to make it to Europe later in the tour just to see Lucy do this -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:24:24 -0800 From: Rick Massuch Subject: Re: [AVALON] "The Best Jazz Vocalist Ever" Etta Jones or James? Rick RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/16/99 5:27:03 PM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: > > << the best jazz vocalist ever. >> > > Ella Fitzgerald?????? WHAT a LOAD of CRAP. A great technician, yes, but > "the best jazz vocalist ever"? 'Better' than Billie Holiday? I'd even take > Etta Jones over Ella! > > --Red > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:51:29 -0500 From: "Ujvary, Richard A." Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where Or When When it's discussing Ferry's work I always wonder if he's known and liked better for his cover versions or for his original work around the world. Now I listened to his version of "The Way You Look Tonight" on ATGB and it sure is jarring when you come off maybe hearing the Lettermen's version first. Going to take me awhile to get into the swing of things there with that one. I guess that's what Ferry does.... he shakes you up a bit with the interpretations. Rich(USA) - -----Original Message----- From: Simon Galloway [mailto:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 11:48 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Where Or When Out of all the 'new' songs from ATGB, Where Or When is surely one of the best performances on the album, and at Golders Green and RFH it got the longest round of applause of all these songs. From reading in the programme about this song I went and had a rummage in the Jazz FM cd library and found Ella Fitzgerald's version (as well as her reading of These Foolish Things). - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:06:41 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dav=ECd?= Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where Or When Not to seem rude, but Bryan's is a pretty standard jazz interpretation. Oddly enough when it's done as a pop song it's played as a ballad, and jazz musicians generally see it as upbeat. Go figure. At 02:51 PM 12/16/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Now I listened to his version of "The Way You Look Tonight" >on ATGB and it sure is jarring when you come off maybe >hearing the Lettermen's version first. Going to take me >awhile to get into the swing of things there with that one. >I guess that's what Ferry does.... he shakes you up a bit >with the interpretations. >Rich(USA) Cheers, ______ / ____ \ __ / / / / / / / / / / __ / / / / / / \_\ / / / / / / ___ __ _ __ ____/ / / / / / / \ \ \ / / / / / __ / / /___/ / / /_\ \ \ \/ / / / / /_/ / __ __ __ __ __ /_______/ /_/ \_\ \__/ /_/ \____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ DavdMock@America.Net CPL593H! -Bryan Ferry, 1972 ____________________________________ |~|Have a look at my web site... |~| |~|Shakatak |~| |~|Swing Out Sister |~| |~|80's pop |~| |~| (Peter Godwin, Fashion, |~| |~| Modern Romance, Belouis Some,|~| |~| Strange Advance, Mari Wilson)|~| |~|Atlanta Bands |~| |~| (Rose Whipperr & Marc Stowe, |~| |~| The Brains, Face Of Concern, |~| |~| Design, Liking The Idea) |~| |~|Lounge Music |~| |~|Hamlet & |~| |~|Raymond Chandler pages |~| |~|An Atlanta Argosy |~| |~|Lotsa cool stuff! |~| - ------------------------------------ http://america.net/~davdmock/ - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #414 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest