From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #386 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, November 25 1999 Volume 04 : Number 386 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Fav album and the new RECORD COLLECTOR magazine and the anorak returns ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Anorakarama ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] 2,3,4 people ["David Squires" ] Re: [AVALON] I'm in another mood for love ["David Squires" ] [AVALON] question ["Will Frechette" ] Re: [AVALON] question/ Answer [RODEISLRED@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] question/ Answer ["Will Frechette" ] [AVALON] Meeting in Vegas airport [Rob Kessel ] [AVALON] Desert Island Discs ["Alan Pestridge" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy records best to worst [Colleen Matan ] RE: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV ["Heather James" ] RE: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy records best to worst [William Sommers ] Re: [AVALON] That Poll ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] MoreThanThisGuitars [axelbartoli@cheerful.com] Re: [AVALON] That Poll [William Sommers ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:33:22 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Fav album and the new RECORD COLLECTOR magazine and the anorak returns >>> Kicki Gustafsson 11/24 7:33 pm >>> Stranded and Country Life are my fav albums. >So there. >Kicki G Someone mentioned Triptitch (I don't care for spelling) - I had completely erased that from my memeory. No thanks for bringing it back. My own personal fav Roxy albums are FYP, Stranded and Siren (is the last an unpopular choice?) and Bryan's being In Your Mind (except for Rock of Ages) and Boys And Girls (faultless). I got the anorak's bible today, the December issue of RECORD COLLECTOR. There's a great feature on Bryan and Roxy with an interview with Bryan plus the Top 30 rarities (8 pages in all) and a nice glossy colour picture of Bry on the back (about '85 or '86 I reckon). BUY IT!!! Kicki - thanks for your collective kiss, it's nice to know that the power of the anorak makes you smile. As for the other two balls ups on the box set - would they be the alternate versions of Manifesto and South Downs? But what about Your Application's Failed (mastered from vinyl, given away by surface noise at the end) and cutting off the last 3 seconds of Sultanesque (what a terrible crime). Who's been careless with the master tapes then? Is that the 8.15 from Manchester pulling in? SimonG - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:39:49 +0100 From: "van Lammeren, Anton" Subject: [AVALON] RE: ? Sorry, which key??? - -----Original Message----- From: ricia mayo [mailto:ricia89@plasticgirl.mail22.com] Sent: woensdag 24 november 1999 7:51 To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: KEY: 3AE4641-8F3DAD5 - ------------------------------------------------------------ Wake Up And Smell The Real Flavour. http://www.plasticgirl.co.uk - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 03:47:20 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. I remember having to tell everyone else in the dream who he was and why he's so great. Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: Angel Colon > Recurring dream eh? I always find those a bit creepy, even if they are > pleasant..I've had one or two of those before > And you dont have to worry that dreaming about another male will imply that > you are gay, even if the dream were a sexual one. I've dreamt of women > constantly and I'm still quite gay! :-) > > Angel > (btw this is not a tirade or a flame in any way, just putting my thoroughly > unnecessary two cents in) > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:44:16 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Anorakarama That sounds nice. I'll pre-order mine. Hope it arrives in time for the RFH, I like to look my best. SimonG >>> 11/24 10:20 pm >>> Roxy are to remix and rerelease their second single. It is a tribute to the Avalon Mailing List It is to be called:- Anorakarama c/w The Thermos And The Notebook The merchandise at the UK dates are to include tigerskin anoraks with a BF logo embroidered on the breast pocket Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:50:51 -0000 From: "David Squires" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 2,3,4 people On 24 Nov 99, at 22:57, Colleen Matan wrote: > And in keeping with the thread (or is it the other one?), if I > never hear the Roxy version of In The Midnight Hour again, I could > die a happy woman. D'accord, Colleen. Though I expect I should die a happy man... David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:50:51 -0000 From: "David Squires" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm in another mood for love On 24 Nov 99, at 22:57, Colleen wrote: > Which also leads me to ask if Lanois is a good choice to work with Mr. > Ferry. I guess I think that Mr. Ferry's original material needs to > be tightened up somewhat, and I'm not sure that he is the man > for that particular job. I'd like Bryan to work with Chris Thomas again... David, dreaming.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:50:51 -0000 From: "David Squires" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bond/Stallone I wrote: > > >Madame Figaro supplement with the Guardian, October 16 1993. I > >have it in front of me and can confirm what Chris says. If there's a > >demand, I can scan it and send it through to Madame Kicki, or even > >upload it myself. There's a rather sweet picture of Bryan wearing > >what look suspiciously like white socks... > > To which Kicki replied: > > My opinion is: Hand it over, honey! OK sugar! David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:04:32 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: [AVALON] question A friend of mine on the Concrete Blonde list I'm on asked a question of me about Roxy and I must pass it on to you guys. What Roxy song was in the kiddie movie Times Square. Being a punk fan I actually saw it in a theater. Imagine my surprise when I found out it was about a couple of twelve year old girls who wear garbage bags as a fashion statement and save time square from being bulldozed. I think Tim Curry played a DJ in it but that was 20 years ago. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:09:01 EST From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] question/ Answer Hey One-Eyed Snake, Wasn't it 'Same Old Scene'? - --Red - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:29:54 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] question/ Answer Could be. It's such a blur at this point. Did you see that crapper too. One Eyed Willie - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Hey One-Eyed Snake, > > Wasn't it 'Same Old Scene'? > > --Red - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:32:41 -0500 From: Rob Kessel Subject: [AVALON] Meeting in Vegas airport The chat with Bryan Ferry was unexpected so I was rather unprepared for any type of interview with him. I guess we just chatted for a while. I started talking about the House of Blues concert and the crowd noise. He did notice the noise but didn't seem to concerned about it. We discussed the shows in Toronto and Detroit. He really likes the crowds in Detroit and even asked me about the riots in 1967. He did comment that Detroit has produced some great musicians and music over the years. He asked me what I thought about the open concert venues (like Pine Knob or Meadowbrook) He thought he would like to play some of those type theaters next...you know where people can have a picnic and listen to the music. At one point I did ask him about the chances of a Roxy reunion and his comment was that it would be "difficult". He said he hopes to have something new by next year. I couldn't get him to get specific about the next project and didn't want to press the matter. It was really amazing sitting there in the airport talking to him about these things. We were sitting across from each other and at times he would lean in toward me to ask a question. He was very relaxed and didn't seem to mind the company. We talked about other "stuff" that may or may not be interesting. I'll try to make some notes for recall and make another post. Regards, Rob Kessel - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:44:04 -0000 From: "Alan Pestridge" Subject: [AVALON] Desert Island Discs What BF/RM tracks would you take to your desert island? Apolgies to non-UK subscribers, if the the thread develops I'm sure you'll catch on. AP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:40:44 -0000 From: "Alan Pestridge" Subject: [AVALON] Album structures Does anyone know the value placed on track sequences/album structures by BF and RM? I would have thought it would be a very high priority given the theme of opening and closing tracks (usually a longish intro. on the first track, slow wind down last track). If this is the case the mass of hit compilations must gall a little - bit of a paradox but I suppose they just value the money over their 'art' (more heresy!) Anyway, the thing that brought this up inmy mind was the presence of a greatest hits album is one of the ranking lists - I don't think these should count! AP - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:35:23 -0000 From: "Alan Pestridge" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 2,3,4 people vs. "smooth Bryan" music people For what is worth my order would run: 1= FYP 1= Stranded 3 Avalon 4 Manifesto 5 Roxy Music 6 Siren 7 Flesh & Blood For me Manifesto is under rated, although it does contain 'Dance Away' my least favourite track. Conversely I feel Siren is over rated and doesn't really move on from the previous albums. F&B, the singles apart, was easily the most disappointing album. In terms of overall quality, I believe the first 5 albums on my list are close and I wouldn't argue with anyone who suggested a slightly different order. I'd be interested to know how people felt about the original solo albums in comparison with the RM stuff. Again, its all a matter of taste of course, but I rate B&G very highly ranking it alongside Avalon with Mamouna not far behind. Bete Noire was a bit of a 'miss' for me though - a bit like Siren it seemed to be a lazy follow on with some left over material (heresy I dare say!). AP - ----- Original Message ----- From: eRacerX To: Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 8:21 PM Subject: [AVALON] 2,3,4 people vs. "smooth Bryan" music people > Put the records in order, best to worst: > For Your Pleasure > Country Life > Stranded > Roxy Music > Siren > Avalon > Flesh+Blood > Manifesto > I am not counting the others, but if I were, Viva! would be on top. > Actually, TTOIA would be the grand prize winner, because of Pyjamarama > and The Numberer. > Your turn. > - herman > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:53:23 +0100 From: Alexander Papazoglu Subject: [AVALON] Velvet Goldmine Hi I just downloaded the velvet golmine CD. Does anybody know who's singing on the bitter's end track? Alex - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:49:21 -0500 (EST) From: axelbartoli@cheerful.com Subject: [AVALON] MoreThanThisGuitars Hooray! Not far from reaching Roxy guitar heaven (at least in terms of kit, playing the bloody things is another problem). Those kind people at Phil manzanera's site managed to ask him what kit was used on More Than This, so for those interested, here goes: Phil played a '51 Tele through a Boogie Amp with a Roland Chorus Echo. Neil Played an ES-335 through a Fender Twin with a UREI compression. However, they didn't tell me who played what parts, but I'm sure you were right anyway Jim in saying that Neil Hubbard played the solo. On reflection of looking at the list of equipment, would it be possible for you to confirm (or anybody else!!)that it definatly was Neil who plays the solo, before I part with any hard earned cash on a new guitar! Thanks, Alex. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:56:59 +-100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Declercq?= Subject: [AVALON] OFF subject This list is a RM/BF list but we often speak about Bowie, right ? So, I'd like to tribute this message and all my actual inner feelings to my Godfather who died on Tuesday PM of a heart infarct at 44 years old. He was a great Bowie fan since the former recorded his first album. He liked also a lot Roxy-Music. His name was Jean-Claude Wittouck. He liked the new technologies and I'm proud to put his name on this list that will reach all the parts of the world. Thanks for respect and soory for those who think they lost time reading this mail. Fréderic (very sad) Han , it is for this reason that I didn't send you post this week. Please mail me your address please - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:10:29 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Velvet Goldmine That is Andy Mackay and Paul Kimble from Grant Lee Buffalo (I'm doing this from memory) but I don't quite know who does what. Sorry, that doesn't really answer anything does it. SimonG >>> Alexander Papazoglu 11/25 1:53 pm >>> Hi I just downloaded the velvet golmine CD. Does anybody know who's singing on the bitter's end track? Alex - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:34:30 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy records best to worst On Thu, 25 Nov 1999 HarlowGold@aol.com wrote: > Since I'm new here I just had to participate in this. Actually it kind of > suprises me that the poll from last winter puts Siren so high on the list of > people's favorites. Critics' reviews of Siren from what I've read (but who > really listens to "critics" anyway) tend to put that down as one of the > weakest Roxy albums. But, probably many people discovered Roxy through Love > is the Drug and Siren was the first album they heard. Just a guess on my Actually, Siren is pretty much my favorite Roxy album and LITD is my least favorite song on that album. Perhaps I'm just a misfit. But it's easy to get swept away by the melancholy of this album. And even Whirlwind has grown on me. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:36:29 -0800 From: Ida Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] Velvet Goldmine According to the CD insert, Bitter's End is performed by Paul Kimble and Andy Mackay. I don't know who Paul Kimble is, but on the same soundtrack he is also credited with producing the covers of 2HB, Ladytron, and Bitter-Sweet, as well as Baby's On Fire and two other tracks. Ida Alexander Papazoglu wrote: > > Hi > I just downloaded the velvet golmine CD. Does anybody know who's singing > on > the bitter's end track? > > Alex > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:10:51 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV Are enough US-TV appearances of Bryan/Roxy to assemble an NTSC video collection? Celluloid Dreams from US-TV? We know about the most recent 3, from Ida's message below ... What else is in the collective collection?   -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com >------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Ida Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:20 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn Dawne, I think it's worth getting a tape of. You may e-mail me directly if you'd like me to copy this performance for you. I can include the Leno and Letterman appearances from '93 and '94, while I'm at it. BTW, I'm talking USA's NTSC video format, not UK's PAL format. Just let me know ... Ida Miller Dawne A. Streutker wrote: > > CAn you beleive I missed this??? > I had my TV, cranked up real loud to prevent me from falling > asleep....and normally, I could pull it off....but I woke to the > ending...missed Bryan!!! Is it worth getting a tape for I wonder???? > > Best, > Dawne > > -------------------------------------------------- < - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:27:32 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] MoreThanThisGuitars In a message dated 25/11/99 13:51:11 GMT Standard Time, axelbartoli@cheerful.com writes: << However, they didn't tell me who played what parts, but I'm sure you were right anyway Jim in saying that Neil Hubbard played the solo. >> I always felt this sounded like Phil Manzanera playing in a similar style to Neil Hubbard. this has been a much debated question on this list and it would be great to put it to bed. I hope Phil's site can answer this eventually, or if any of us get the chance to meet someone reliably informed at the tour, then this must be the first question to ask. Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:23:39 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. Dear Dr Freud, I used to dream that Ferry would come on stage and announce that Andy had been taken ill and "was there a saxophonist in the house?" I would of course jump up on stage and become a female McKay for the evening, being note perfect on every song and even introducing some of my own tunes "Fiesta For Life" being one that I remembered (how sad is this?!) Roxy also regularly gave concerts in my back garden. Strangely enough this led me to trying to learn how to play the saxophone in real life. I was hopeless to put it mildly but the two tunes I did master were Three Blind Mice and ...As Time Goes By!! Now all Bryan has to do is ask and I'm there. Spooky. Also I wanted to call my English Bull Terrier Roxy and was out voted by my other half and the rest of the household. He is now called Bond. All in all a very disconcerting day in the land of Avalon. Jocelyn. - -----Original Message----- From: Kicki Gustafsson [mailto:kicki.gustafsson@op.se] Sent: 23 November 1999 21:20 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. When Roxy had the three year long pause (76-78/79) I often used to dream that I met Bryan and _begged_ him, pleaded: Roxy must get back together again!! I also dreamt that they came to our school and gave a concert. Very plausible. /Kicki G P.S Have I written this to the list before or am I having a deja vu?? - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:37:40 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: [AVALON] RE: thanks for the tips Actually, the last 4 mini-LP Roxy & Bryan Remasters arrived earlier this week. I broke down and paid those CDNOW prices just to complete the set, (although I didn't buy any of the Greatest Hits CDs). I did buy The High Road - it SAYS its been remastered - and it sounds good. The latest ones (Mamouna, Taxi, Manifesto, Flesh & Blood) came with a little "Made in England" sticker on the back of the little plastic bag. Thats compared to the "Made in Canada" sticker on the earlier ones I got. That certainly explains the higher price ... I also got a 2 old CDs by a group called Caravan, The Land of Grey and Pink, and, For Girls Who ... but that was just to fill in an old gap in my music collection (in the Canterbury Music) http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/calyx.html   -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com >------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: Glen Lehman [mailto:accgdl@senet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 9:40 AM To: hjames@thewebgal.com Subject: thanks for the tips thanks for the tips (catch the prices now!!) We should have acted earlier. I think the chances of getting the set are now very slim indeed. Is the High-Road Remastered? (CD-NOW have some of the mini-lp formats at US$25)......good luck - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:46:32 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. >Dear Dr Freud, > > > >I used to dream that Ferry would come on stage and announce that Andy had >been taken ill and "was there a saxophonist in the house?" > >I would of course jump up on stage and become a female McKay for the >evening, being note perfect on every song and even introducing some of my >own tunes "Fiesta For Life" being one that I remembered (how sad is this?!) > >Roxy also regularly gave concerts in my back garden. Jocelyn - I love you! Isn't it sad that you can't videotape your dreams?! Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:41:29 EST From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 2,3,4 people Yes, do a boring (not) analysis. Greggie in Atlanta, I thought your reviews fairly recently of Boys and Girls were interesting. How about one of Bete Noire? Helene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:54:01 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] question/ Answer I am the proud owner of that soundtrack and can confirm that it truly, scrumptiously was "Same Old Scene" -- When I heard it in the theater, barring concerts, it was the loudest I ever heard a Roxy Music song. It really added to the pleasure. - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: Will Frechette To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, November 25, 1999 5:41 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] question/ Answer > Could be. It's such a blur at this point. Did you see that crapper too. > > One Eyed Willie >----- Original Message ----- >From: > > > >> Hey One-Eyed Snake, >> >> Wasn't it 'Same Old Scene'? >> >> --Red > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:36:34 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy records best to worst At 09:34 AM 11/25/99 -0500, Colleen Matan wrote: > Actually, Siren is pretty much my favorite Roxy album and LITD is my > least favorite song on that album. Perhaps I'm just a misfit. But > it's easy to get swept away by the melancholy of this album. And > even Whirlwind has grown on me. I'm one of those who gave the nod to Siren in the poll (remember that the question was for single favorite, not a ranking, which would almost certainly have changed the results considerably). [I've pointed out the difference between the terms "favorite" and "best" here before, and as I recently mentioned in passing in email to a list member: [Siren is] "not necessarily the 'best,' just the one which has tied into the emotions of a given period in my life the most."] And I'm with not-at-all-a-misfit Colleen 100% on the above, up to the Whirlwind part -- the song has always been an integral part for me, the album's one real let-loose cooker. -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:49:20 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV - ---------- >From: "Heather James" > Are enough US-TV appearances of Bryan/Roxy to assemble an NTSC video > collection? Celluloid Dreams from US-TV? We know about the most recent 3, > from Ida's message below ... > What else is in the collective collection? "A Perfumed Sigh" , Celluloid Pictures of Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry (1972-1999), the long awaited video bootleg of selected live television performances, is not a European project. It is pan-Avalonion. Stateside listmembers were extremely helpful in the early days of the project, and mailed some excellent stuff, but it soon became apparent that most of the material was recorded on non-US TV. As you would expect from an artist who is, as we all agree, better known this side of the pond. There were exceptions of course - notably those stomping SNL performances - but you will find that in editing down from 40 hours of recording to 4 hours we had to select a combination of rare live performances, chat shows where he / they dropped their defences, bizarre stuff (eg. Le Petit Dejuner) and rarely seen classics (eg. Sensation on Live Aid.) Yours, in the zig zag shadows that promise much, Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:45:59 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. - -----Original Message----- From: Kicki Gustafsson [mailto:kicki.gustafsson@op.se] Sent: 25 November 1999 15:47 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry. Bryan Ferry. >Dear Dr Freud, > > > > >Roxy also regularly gave concerts in my back garden. Jocelyn - I love you! Isn't it sad that you can't videotape your dreams?! Kicki G Did I mention everyone was naked?!! Jocelyn - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:05:09 -0800 From: Ida Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV I'd eagerly support several / multiple videos of rarities, rather than having so many choice things edited out to pare it down to 4 hours. I take it that this is in development now, and not ready for distribution yet? thanks Ida Martin Stockman wrote: > > ---------- > >From: "Heather James" > > Are enough US-TV appearances of Bryan/Roxy to assemble an NTSC video > > collection? Celluloid Dreams from US-TV? We know about the most recent 3, > > from Ida's message below ... > > What else is in the collective collection? > > "A Perfumed Sigh" , Celluloid Pictures of Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry > (1972-1999), the long awaited video bootleg of selected live television > performances, is not a European project. It is pan-Avalonion. Stateside > listmembers were extremely helpful in the early days of the project, and > mailed some excellent stuff, but it soon became apparent that most of the > material was recorded on non-US TV. As you would expect from an artist who > is, as we all agree, better known this side of the pond. There were > exceptions of course - notably those stomping SNL performances - but you > will find that in editing down from 40 hours of recording to 4 hours we had > to select a combination of rare live performances, chat shows where he / > they dropped their defences, bizarre stuff (eg. Le Petit Dejuner) and rarely > seen classics (eg. Sensation on Live Aid.) > > Yours, in the zig zag shadows that promise much, > > Martino > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:18:59 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] That Poll - ---------- >From: William Sommers > Hey Gareth -- > > I've already gotten a couple of requests for the full results of your > poll... care to post all 4 parts again? Hi William Gareth has left the list. A regular contributor mailed him off-list with the following comment. (You are) "a foolish young child who has become an object of ridicule on the list." It's a great shame. Not least because Gareth was an inspirational and often hilarious Avalonion. His poll results from last winter took a lot of work and gave us all a vital demographic. I'll try and re-send them to the list. In the meantime, because we've got so many funky new Avalonions, why don't we repeat the poll and give the results before Christmas ? Martin - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:20:46 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV Hi Ida Release date to EVERYONE : 14 Dec 1999 - ---------- >From: Ida Miller >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV >Date: Thu, Nov 25, 1999, 6:05 pm > > I'd eagerly support several / multiple videos of rarities, rather than > having so many choice things edited out to pare it down to 4 hours. > > I take it that this is in development now, and not ready for > distribution yet? thanks > > Ida > > > Martin Stockman wrote: >> "A Perfumed Sigh" , Celluloid Pictures of Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry >> (1972-1999), - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:36:49 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV Thanks for the info Martino! If the majority of material is from non-US sources, it seems to me as if it would then be a PAL VHS tape, and as such, its not viewable to us on the NTSC side of the screen. Thats the only reason I was asking who had what stateside ... I wasn't sure you had plans or the resources to convert it to NTSC. I'd love to see the "Le Petit Dejeuner" segment - and if there IS to be a tape we can view - I'm VERY interested!   -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com TheWebGal Biz Site: http://www.thewebgal.com/ Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Archive: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ >------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Martin Stockman Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:49 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV - ---------- >From: "Heather James" > Are enough US-TV appearances of Bryan/Roxy to assemble an NTSC video > collection? Celluloid Dreams from US-TV? We know about the most recent 3, > from Ida's message below ... > What else is in the collective collection? "A Perfumed Sigh" , Celluloid Pictures of Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry (1972-1999), the long awaited video bootleg of selected live television performances, is not a European project. It is pan-Avalonion. Stateside listmembers were extremely helpful in the early days of the project, and mailed some excellent stuff, but it soon became apparent that most of the material was recorded on non-US TV. As you would expect from an artist who is, as we all agree, better known this side of the pond. There were exceptions of course - notably those stomping SNL performances - but you will find that in editing down from 40 hours of recording to 4 hours we had to select a combination of rare live performances, chat shows where he / they dropped their defences, bizarre stuff (eg. Le Petit Dejuner) and rarely seen classics (eg. Sensation on Live Aid.) Yours, in the zig zag shadows that promise much, Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:48:30 -0500 From: "Karen Norton" Subject: RE: [AVALON] REMASTERS I've ordered through gemm and had no problems what so ever. They're very prompt. K - ------------------- Herman wrote: - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:58:23 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV - ---------- >From: "Heather James" > If the majority of material is from non-US sources, > it seems to me as if it would then be a PAL VHS tape, and as such, > its not viewable to us on the NTSC side of the screen. Fear not . All styles served - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:03:31 -0800 From: Ida Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan and Roxy on US-TV I have a resource who will transfer PAL to NTSC for me, and then I can make additional NTSC copies ... in case this helps those of us in the Colonies. Heather James wrote: > > Thanks for the info Martino! > > If the majority of material is from non-US sources, > it seems to me as if it would then be a PAL VHS tape, and as such, > its not viewable to us on the NTSC side of the screen. > > Thats the only reason I was asking who had what stateside ... > I wasn't sure you had plans or the resources to convert it to NTSC. > > I'd love to see the "Le Petit Dejeuner" segment - and if there IS to be > a tape we can view - I'm VERY interested! > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:39:22 -0500 (EST) From: axelbartoli@cheerful.com Subject: [AVALON] MoreThanThisGuitars John, don't do this to me! just when I thought I had the answer and had made my mind up, somebody comes along and ruins it all for me! Oh well, such is life, I spose I'll just have to hassle those at Manzanera.com again. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. They said that Phil uses a Roland Chorus/Delay with his telcaster(of which the solo, I think certainly has 'delay') and that Neil uses a 'compression' with his ES-335. I havn't used a compression, and neither do I have any idea what it is like, so if anybody has any ideas I'll be most grateful. Thanks, Alex. p.s. Sorry to bore everybody (again) with my search for Roxy guitar heaven, it has now become abit of a sad obsession! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:41:34 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] That Poll At 05:18 PM 11/25/99 +0100, Martin Stockman wrote: > Hi William > > Gareth has left the list. A regular contributor mailed him off-list > with the following comment. (You are) "a foolish young child who has > become an object of ridicule on the list." It's a great shame. Not > least because Gareth was an inspirational and often hilarious Avalonion. Martin, Please do not: (a) post quotes out of context; (b) post private email between two individuals, neither of which is you; (c) feel compelled to perpetuate the entire incident, no matter which side of the fence you happen to sit on. Having been on the road, I had the "pleasure" of reading everything between the 11th and 23rd in one sitting. It was ugly enough in that format and I'm happy not to have been subjected to it blow-by-blow -- I see no purpose served by revisiting any of it, though, given the context of my note, do thank you for bringing his current absence to my attention. In 15 or so years of being online, I've witnessed (or on very rare occasion even been party to) more flame-fests/disputes/misunderstandings/what-have-you than I could ever, much less ever want to, recall. [Yes, Heather, we even remember with way too much clarity your own FidoNet "incidents". :-) This merely coming from a fellow former Opus fan who still misses Wayne.] With very few exceptions, these were enabled by the impersonal aspects of this medium -- it's a hell of a lot easier to let fly when sitting alone in the safety of one's lair than when sitting face-to-face. (I once spent a more-or-less pleasant afternoon over coffee with somebody with whom I'd had a long-term online feud... problem solved, many wish we had done so a year prior.) I agree he was/is an asset to this list, yet it doesn't take much to screw up a relatively harmonious community (just ask Roberto and others here about my own John Cale list *sigh*). An occasional snipe or disagreement is only to be expected among so many different personalities -- and certainly I've not been a perfect role model myself -- but these are no places for prolonged personal attack. It's inconsiderate, personally unhealthy, and oh so easily avoided through mere exercising of the "D" key and a modicum of self-restraint. And now I sincerely apologize to all for my own belated participation. The sending of which is indeed against my better judgement (but so be it), and at its end, I promise. Frankly, I'm thinking it's about time for Vapor to drift in and mock us all. > His poll results from last winter took a lot of work and gave us all > a vital demographic. I'll try and re-send them to the list. In the > meantime, because we've got so many funky new Avalonions, why don't we > repeat the poll and give the results before Christmas ? Rather, how about turning it into a web-based survey? Advantages: perpetual tabulation, automated calculations, minimal cluttering of the list. I, for one, can whip something up to which Kicki (et al) could point, but can't promise an immediate time-frame. Okay, back to the kitchen and repeated listenings to my copy of Vozero, which has been gathering dust since arriving mere hours prior to my departure two weeks ago... -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #386 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest