From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #353 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, November 8 1999 Volume 04 : Number 353 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON]Taping the tour ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] A Libation, or two.. ["Richard Swift" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Virginia Plain & Pyjamarama [JFROXY@aol.com] [AVALON] Washington Post Review of DC Concert ["Linda Epstein" ] [AVALON] Vinyl - thanks Noam ["Johnny Reece" ] Re: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] RM video collection [Noam Bronstein ] [AVALON] The first Roxy release [jas2347@xsite.net] [AVALON] Go Johnny Go.. [jas2347@xsite.net] [AVALON] the King of Sangfroid [jas2347@xsite.net] [AVALON] double standards [jas2347@xsite.net] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 09:06:53 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON]Taping the tour Perhaps we should wait to see if Andy Cooper will be applying his aural wizardry on the UK tour.... - ---------- >From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boston show...want to meet people Saturday/Sunday >Date: Sat, Nov 6, 1999, 2:58 pm > > >>Jeffrey Jones wrote: >> >>P.S. I hope to be taping the show with my Sony pro recorder. >> > > Can we use this for an Avalonion CD-tree? If I can help to improve the > soundquality and to put it on cd, make a cover etc let me know. > > regards > Han > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 09:18:10 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Libation, or two.. - ---------- >From: "Robert Whiteford" > If any one is meeting up for a beer or two before RFH I'll be up for it. My > wife Sue has dropped out and is replaced by my Ferry loving mate Calvin. I'm happy to co-ordinate this. Do we want an unreconstructed boozer or a smokey nightclub situation ? We got our own way of walkin We got our way of talkinī (Gotta have fun!) Any time of the year, donīt you hear (Gotta have fun!) Spendinī cash, talkinī trash Girl, Iīll show you a real good time Come on with me and leave your troubles behind I donīt care where youīve been You ainīt been nowhere till you been in with "In" crowd - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:48:52 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: [AVALON] Spoiler review of show Bryan Ferry mingles sounds at Gershman By A.D. Amorosi FOR THE INQUIRER Since the start of Roxy Music, Bryan Ferry has existed in another time zone, a Casablanca-like sector where the past and future are interchangeable. There, the decaying sounds of Germanic cabaret, English avant rock, and standard American jazz mingle, with Ferry in the role of the last of the international playboys. At least, that's the impression he gave Thursday night at the nearly sold-out Gershman Auditorium - a most appropriate ballroom venue, with an appropriately dressed crowd - when he moved elegantly between Tin Pan Alley standards, solo hits, and Roxy favorites. Women play as prominent a role in his orchestra as his lyrics, so he was backed by an all-female string quartet and a female harpist in addition to four horns, a guitarist strumming Parisian hot jazz a la Django Reinhardt, and a grand-piano player straight off a sinking Titanic. Ferry acted the crooning fool. Though a slightly awkward physical presence, he took quiet command of the wide stage, bending his elbows and covering his face like a drag Garbo. On upbeat '30s fare such as "The Way You Look Tonight" and "You Do Something to Me," from his new As Time Goes By CD, Ferry allowed his usually deep voice to saunter in its upper register. This high-pitched warble flitted like a butterfly through the intricate arrangements of strings, muted trumpet, and soft tenor sax. In those arrangements - a shuffling, mid-tempo "Love Me or Leave Me" and a teary, string-laden cabaret of "September Song" that would do Kurt Weill proud - Ferry resembles a downbeat Bobby Short. But before you can say, "Meet me at the Carlyle," Ferry brings in the clouds, allowing interlocking strings and horns to hover over his darker, deeper voice for a selection of Roxy Music moments. This is the heart of the Ferry sound - a macabre, Brian Wilson-like dreaminess gone bad. Ferry quivered through the sinister, choppy piano sound of "Chance Meeting," the guitar screeching of "Bittersweet," and the raging avant-tango of "Do the Strand." > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:06:53 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] ASSH > >>Got my copy of ASSH from the now-departed Gene as a farewell gift. Would >>someone be kind enough to re-post (or e-mail me privately) the track >>listings. Han, do you happen to have a cd liner made up for this? >> >>Thanks all. >> >>Arnie > > >I've made a nice cd-liner for this I sent it to you Arnie. If anyone else is interested sent me a private mail. (Kicki, it has a close-up of his long fingers!) > >Han > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:10:00 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "I'm in The Mood for Love" Single Thank you, JF David - ---------- > From: JFROXY@aol.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] "I'm in The Mood for Love" Single > Date: 06 November 1999 12:50 > > In a message dated 06/11/99 12:08:06 GMT Standard Time, > killip.family@advsys.co.uk writes: > > << Wasn't there a Millais (or possibly Rosetti) painting used for a single > picture sleeve on one of ther "Avalon" singles?. >> > > Yes it was the cover of the "More than this" single, the painting in > question being "Veronica Veronese" by Rosetti. > > JF > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 07:30:43 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Tour - Spoiler Alert! From: Richard Swift : > - so far I've unwittingly found out that Bitter Sweet, Do The Strand, >Jealous Guy, The Only Face (or was it The 39 Steps), Casanova etc. etc. were >performed. Richard, we tried NOT to tell you - all those concert messages had SPOILER in them - Herman - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:33:53 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Libation, or two.. - ---------- From: Martin Stockman To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Libation, or two.. Date: 07 November 1999 08:18 - ---------- Martin (said)..... I'm happy to co-ordinate this. Do we want; (a) an unreconstructed boozer or, (b) a smokey nightclub situation ? Perhaps (a) before the show and (b) after. David You ainīt been nowhere till you been in.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - ---------- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 08:09:00 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] I beg a question regarding "Miss Otis.." On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Gregory A. Koetting wrote: > I do have one question for the English majors... I feel the last line of > the song shouldn't be in quotes. I doubt Miss Otis actually says that > line before she dies. Yet as the line is the title of the song, would > that somehow in the hierarchy of punctuatiion dictate quotes? I'm neither English nor a major but I'd say that the line is in quotes because those are Miss Otis' last words before she dies. It's the whole (dare I say ironic) point of the song. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:29:26 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] ASSH Thanks for the track list, Colleen. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:24:20 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Charts Disappointing to report that "As Time Goes By" the single has failed to reach the Top 75 and the album is down to 37. Things could have been so different if....(fill in the Virgin rant for yourselves) Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:27:10 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Libation, or two.. Martin - Anywhere that sells a good pint will be fine by me! Good man. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Stockman To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Libation, or two.. > ---------- > >From: "Robert Whiteford" > > If any one is meeting up for a beer or two before RFH I'll be up for it. My > > wife Sue has dropped out and is replaced by my Ferry loving mate Calvin. > > I'm happy to co-ordinate this. Do we want an unreconstructed boozer or a > smokey nightclub situation ? > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:29:21 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Tour - Spoiler Alert! I know, I know (sounding like Likely Lads Bob already) - but I couldn't help taking little peeks! Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: eRacerX To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Tour - Spoiler Alert! > From: Richard Swift : > > - so far I've unwittingly found out that Bitter Sweet, Do The Strand, > >Jealous Guy, The Only Face (or was it The 39 Steps), Casanova etc. etc. > were > >performed. > > Richard, we tried NOT to tell you - all those concert messages had SPOILER > in them > - Herman > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:29:55 -0000 From: "David Squires" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #350 On 6 Nov 99, at 4:05, Richard Swift wrote: > Speaking of which is it too early to start thinking about watering holes? > The post RFH bash in July - in McDonalds - can't be repeated. None of us > that time seemed to know anywhere nearby where we could get a drink so we > need to make sure we don't make the same mistake again! > There's a rather nice pub on Roupel Street, about 10-15 minutes walk south from the south bank. Check out the A-Z or, if you can't find it from that I can probably scan the correct page and add a giant X. It sells Adnams, amongst others. I've been there a couple of times after meeting people at the National Film Theatre. I *think* it's called the King's Head, but I can't quite remember - sorry! And I absolutely love the new album. Collen's review also bodes well for the December concerts. Enjoy! David - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:29:55 -0000 From: "David Squires" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Virginia Plain & Pyjamarama On 6 Nov 99, at 4:05, Mark Seattle wrote: > As I recall, Virginia Plain was included in the original > Roxy Music UK album release No. "Stranded" was the first Roxy album to feature a single. And since this was the third album (partially) written, recorded and released by Ferry in 1973, who can blame him? I have a rather battered copy of the Pyjamarama single, it was what really introduced me to Roxy Music. This original release differs slightly in production to the later 1977 release (to coincide with the first (of many) Greatest Hits package). As far as the battered copy I have goes, the main difference is that the electronic treatment of the saxophone is more extreme (i.e. better!) than the subsequent release. Does anyone know whether the original is available in a digital format? Ta! David Kingslynn (no, it doesn't work, does it?) - -- - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 19:58:42 -0000 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Charts The single was only to be expected. I WANTED it and almost didn't get it. But the album is more of a worry. I like ATGB but it seems to me an ever decreasing number of core fans buy Ferry Lp's in the week they come out and then no one else does. Like Bete Noire the tour may be too late to save the LP sales....and what has become of these TV appearences ?- I haven't seen any presumably because he's touring in the US ! Anyway ATGB was doomed as a single by releasing after all the Ferry fans had bought the album. I repeat - Bete Noire was the commercial end for Ferry. He took too long and it wasn't good enough. Taxi only reinforced that 5 years later. Mamouna was good but he has been forgotten by the vast majority of those who bought Avalon. And no wonder to be honest. My mate Calvin who's coming to the concert at RFH says he had a 5 album deal with Virgin - which makes the next the last for them thank God. Tom Jones is essentially crap (sorry !) but he's been brilliantly promoted - and to be fair he makes an effort himself. I just about believe Ferry can sell again but "the days dwindle down to a precious few" and I wonder whether he really believes he can make it worthwhile sales wise. Rob - ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard SwIift To: Sent: 07 November 1999 19:24 Subject: [AVALON] Re: Charts > Disappointing to report that "As Time Goes By" the single has failed to > reach the Top 75 and the album is down to 37. > > Things could have been so different if....(fill in the Virgin rant for > yourselves) > > Richard > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:50:45 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: [AVALON] It's a girl!! We have a new addition to the Avalon-site (http://home.op.se/opse3503), and I'm happy to say that's it's a woman this time - Heather James is the 34th member now being profiled. /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:21:41 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Virginia Plain & Pyjamarama In a message dated 07/11/99 07:34:29 GMT Standard Time, dsquires@nildram.co.uk writes: << Does anyone know whether the original is available in a digital format? Ta! >> The Island single version, (far superior to the "Greatest Hits" version, due to the wonderful sax solo) is featured on "The Thrill Of It All" box set.I remember reading once that the "Hits" version was in fact the original version, anyone know more about this? JF. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:42:06 -0500 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Washington Post Review of DC Concert I don't think this has been posted yet... Bryan Ferry, Fittingly Retro By Mark Jenkins Friday, November 5, 1999; Page C03 In conceiving his 1970s band Roxy Music, British singer-songwriter Bryan Ferry expanded rock's conceptual palette by adding both futuristic and retro elements. Wednesday at the 9:30 club, Ferry emphasized the latter, performing selections from his new album of old songs, "As Time Goes By." The self-styled crooner didn't entirely abandon his former repertoire. The set list complemented Ferry's punk-country-gentleman outfit, which paired a frock coat with black leather pants. While showcasing such standards as "Where or When" and "You Do Something to Me"--and the singer's jazz-rooted 13-piece band--the concert also included Roxy Music rock covers that Ferry has made his own, John Lennon's "Jealous Guy" and Wilbert Harrison's "Let's Stick Together." The show probably marked the first time a full-size harp has been played on the 9:30 stage, but the mixture of instruments and styles never seemed precarious. Although the musicians were obviously chosen for their ability to play old-fashioned big-band charts, they showed no difficulty with Roxy's proto-punk raver "Do the Strand." Their performance of that raucous encore, in fact, revealed how much more easily genres are scrambled these days than in Roxy Music's time. - -- Linda D. Epstein Photo Editor Knight Ridder/Tribune Photo Service lepstein@krtinfo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:00:11 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #350 Thanks David. Martin - do you know where this is? Any additional suggestions could give rise to a late night crawl! Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Squires To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #350 > On 6 Nov 99, at 4:05, Richard Swift wrote: > > > Speaking of which is it too early to start thinking about watering holes? > > The post RFH bash in July - in McDonalds - can't be repeated. None of us > > that time seemed to know anywhere nearby where we could get a drink so we > > need to make sure we don't make the same mistake again! > > > There's a rather nice pub on Roupel Street, about 10-15 minutes walk south from > the south bank. Check out the A-Z or, if you can't find it from that I can > probably scan the correct page and add a giant X. It sells Adnams, amongst > others. I've been there a couple of times after meeting people at the National > Film Theatre. I *think* it's called the King's Head, but I can't quite remember - > sorry! > > And I absolutely love the new album. Collen's review also bodes well for the > December concerts. Enjoy! > > David > -- > David Squires > Wimbotsham > Norfolk > UK > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 00:22:12 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Charts Robert - Unless there are other TV appearances in the pipeline (unlikely) they're all in December - the TV special, Jools Holland's Hootenay and the Millenium Eve Greenwich concert. I just hope that even if the album nose dives between now and then, this exposure revives its fortunes. It deserves to do better. I don't understand the policy of releasing the first single from an album after the album is released. The theory is that it prolongs the chart life of the album but this patently doesn't work. The single still deserved to make even a modest impact - second, third, even fifth single releases from albums do so the fact it was released after we all got our hands on the album isn't a major feature. It was doomed for no other reason than the record company's lack of promotion - they take responsibility for getting the CD in the shops, for promoting it in the shops through advertising and week of release discounts and they take responsibility for cajoling radio stations to put it on their playlists. They have singularly failed in all areas, not only with the single but also with the album. As far as I'm aware Bryan is no longer committed to Virgin. If his deal was for 5 albums it's possible one or other of the parties 'got out' because he was, apparently, without a deal earlier this year. His current album is released through Virgin Germany - perhaps a technicality but, it seems to me, a different label to straightforward Virgin. If what we read / hear is correct, the deal is for this album only which means Bryan can look elsewhere for his next album. He couldn't do much worse. Can anyone else on the list corroborate the current position regarding the record company position or correct me? I wouldn't go so far as to say TJ is crap - he still has an amazing voice but isn't blessed with the best material in the world - but I agree his record company gives 110% as does Tom - the amount of promotional work he put in during the first two weeks of his album's release was amazing and on that basis alone it probably deserved to debut at number one. Richard (who wasn't going to moan in his earlier 'Charts' message but couldn't help himself this time) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Whiteford Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Charts > The single was only to be expected. I WANTED it and almost didn't get it. > But the album is more of a worryAnyway ATGB was doomed as a > single by releasing after all the Ferry fans had bought the album. > > My mate Calvin who's coming to the concert at RFH says he had a 5 album deal > with Virgin - which makes the next the last for them thank God. Tom Jones > is essentially crap (sorry !) but he's been brilliantly promoted - and to be > fair he makes an effort himself. > Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard SwIift > Subject: [AVALON] Re: Charts > > > Disappointing to report that "As Time Goes By" the single has failed to > > reach the Top 75 and the album is down to 37. > > > > Things could have been so different if....(fill in the Virgin rant for > > yourselves) > > > > Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:46:35 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Vinyl - thanks Noam Ta for the info, Noam... At present, Vinyl has about a 40% share of Sales in my Shop - the rest being CDs (have dropped tapes when their figure went below 3% !). Plenty of people still want Vinyl - although the 'new' titles are more difficult to get - and most Record Companies won't tell you that about 90% of Albums released in the UK ARE pressed on Vinyl, albeit in not too large quantities. And why ? Well, the large 'chains' don't like 'pushing' Vinyl too much. Firstly, it's expensive, Secondly, it takes up more display space, and Thirdly, they (and Record Companies) can make a larger profit on CDs. All the talk of 'the public don't want Vinyl' is, frankly, crap. The Music buying public take what they are given - always have, always will. They were told 10 years ago that CDs were 'indestructible' - and believed it - so, I rest my case. Another, smaller, even 'lazier' format will take over next, and the people who bought, say for example, 'Dylan's Greatest Hits' on 8 - Track, then Cassette, then Vinyl, CD, Re-mastered CD - will buy it again, as they'll be told the new format is 'better', and they'll fall for it too. I think it's only the 'musos' (apologies for the phrase) who will notice that the sound on many CDs is rather 'flat' when 'older' titles are transferred over. To the normal punter in the street who just wants 'wallpaper music' as a background either at home, driving, whatever - it makes it easier for them to just press a button and hear it..- they're not listening to the 'sound' if you know what i mean. . Basically, it's a 'lazy format' - nothing wrong with that if it's what you want, of course - it's down to personal opinion at the end of the day. Incidentally - most of the Vinyl I sell is to the 14-30 age group - and to a lot of Schoolkids - who want the 'originals' because (in their words) - "they sound better". They want the Artwork/Cover too - just as important as the LP being in good condition. Actually, the Cover etc is the main selling point for them - and the amount of early Roxy (always the first 2) and orig Hendrix, Floyd, Zep, Beatles, Stones, Byrds etc we get asked for is massive - we can't get enough, usually. And - in Roxy's case - it just HAS to be on 'Island' - otherwise they don't want it ! Nice to see. Personally, I use both formats - though I have to in my 2 jobs - as a great deal of my Vinyl collection won't ever be transferred on to CD - not properly, anyway. I even had a couple of kids in my shop last week bringing back 'Revolver' CDs because of the way the 'stereo channels' had been mucked about ("have you heard it ? - it's awful") and asking me if I could track down a Mono Vinyl copy so they could hear it "as it's supposed to be". God, I tell ya, I love my job sometimes ...Basically, I believe certain Music is 'made' for CD - most things nowadays, for example. Older orig Vinyl Albums often sound crap on the CD format (particularly 60s titles) because they weren't built for that in the first place. The 'warmth' of 60s Vinyl was all part of it then. It's an argument that will never go away. I love both - for different reasons, for different Albums, from different times. Nice to see kids wanting Vinyl though - it always gives me a buzz... I still get that buzz just opening up the Vinyl cover of FYP though - no tatty little CD cover could ever replace that... Sorry for ranting... Reecey... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:34:59 -0500 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... I picked >up the Avalon CD that comes in the cardboard jacket with the Japanese style >bordering and John responded that these are the new remasters and they sound >fantastic. Which is what? Hello...I must say that although I picked up an Avalon remaster that is in the cardboard ALBUM TYPE sleeve packed in a snug fitting plastic bag....and it sounds fantastic....it had NO JAPANESE writing on it what so ever. JD - -----Original Message----- From: Karen Norton To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:35 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... >I'm sorry gang. I've been following these threads, but now I'm confused. >What is the difference between "REMAST ORG" and "REMASTERED" and which are >the ones I should be ordering? As I mentioned in an earlier post, I picked >up the Avalon CD that comes in the cardboard jacket with the Japanese style >bordering and John responded that these are the new remasters and they sound >fantastic. Which is what? > >Thanks!! > > >Signed, > > >Confused > > >---------------- >Amy wrote: > >> Bingo. Should anybody still be considering using absound, the >> "REMASTERED" >> listings are the ones (apart from the lower numbers clue all along, note >> the confirmation in correlation of digits -- e.g. 47438 for Avalon). >> >> ROXY MUSIC AVALON (REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247460 >> ROXY MUSIC AVALON (REMASTERED) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247438 >> >> ROXY MUSIC SIREN (REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247455 >> ROXY MUSIC SIREN (REMASTERED) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247456 >> >> ROXY MUSIC VIVA! ROXY MUSIC(REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247457 >> ROXY MUSIC VIVA! ROXY MUSIC-LIVE(REMASTER $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247436 >> >> Thanks, Amy! >> >> >> -wfs >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon >> > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 22:37:59 -0500 From: Noam Bronstein Subject: Re: [AVALON] RM video collection Rod, if you get a moment could you post the song list from the video collection? I looked on Amazon and they don't list the details. Any more juicy tidbits appreciated.. thanks, Noam Rod Le Cloux wrote: While I was at The Mall of America I picked up the video "B.F. & Roxy Music Video Collection". I was quite impressed with it. Some of the things I noticed on first run thru were: 1. Ann Nicole Smith was in one of the video's(Windswept?--I'll check again and correct later) 2. David Gilmour(Pink Floyd) appears in "Is Your Love Strong Enough" 3. Gail Ann Dorsey(David Bowie's bass player) appears briefly in "I Put A Spell On You". I also just discovered that in the liner notes for "Taxi" that she is also "Thanked" but is not listed as playing on Taxi. Does anyone know the details behind this? 4. B.F. is sporting a beard in "What Goes On". It reminded me of Barry Gibb(Bee Gees) for some reason. Kinda scary... Anyways, this is a small start of interesting things on the video's. Is there a better list somewhere else or should we just start one? Take Care, Rod - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 21:59:59 -0800 From: Brian Folks Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Photographs On this note you can do the same thing at http://www.corbis.com/ ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/06/1999 7:08:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > richard_swift@lineone.net writes: > > << There are 21 photographs of BF to be found at: > > http://www.mirrorpix.com/ > > You can copy these but the images are fairly small and will become fuzzy if > you try to enlarge them. However 8"x10" copies can also be ordered for, > typically, Ģ10 each. >> > > Looked up Roxy Music and found some referencing Brian Ferry and even Brain > Ferry! > > Arnie > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:10:19 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] The first Roxy release Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:19:49 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Non-Album Roxy Singles - - ---------- Dear Mark Roxy had a short-lived policy of releasing singles that weren't on albums. I read somewhere that Bryan always liked it that the Beatles had followed that trend. Thus Virginia Plain, and later, Pyjamarama, were only single releases. By the time Stranded was released they'd ditched this policy although Street Life could easily have continued the sequence. I find it very strange when I come across an Import of the eponymous first album that contains Virginia Plain. It's possible that the single was squeezed on to the US album release. Regards My vinyl copy does have Virgina Plain on it. I purchased is in Los Angeles in 1977. However, it did not include the photos of the band in the sleave. In other news: Studies/tests are ovah!!! I look forward to the concert this Thursaday at the Riveria in Chicago. I am primed for it. The weather looks as though it is going to be warm (60's) for a November date. I know Bryan is going to give a good show. Thanks to Collen for the review of the Washington concert. I am so glad that songs that were on my secret wish list were/will be included in the set. In particular Chance Meeting and Sunset. They will be wonderful counterpoints to the songs from ATGB. I find myself these days playing this release a lot. It has grown on me in particular I'm in the Mood for Love. Too bad I won't have dance partner for when he does that one in concert. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:37:08 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Go Johnny Go.. Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:13:02 -0000 From: "Johnny Reece" Subject: [AVALON] Remasters & Brys voice - new evidence ! Fellow Avalonians - here's an interesting one : "That's not Ferry, is it" ? Furthermore, I played ATGB in 'peak-time' mid-afternoon - when the Shop was really busy - and 4 separate customers (yes, FOUR) came up to the counter and asked "Who is this singing" ? - Honestly ! Well, my dear friends - maybe that answers the question for all of us - he obviously DOES sound a lot different (still superb of course) as the public at large didn't recognise him straight off. Interesting, eh ? Oh yeah... By the way - sold ALL the advance copies of the Remasters - and all the ATGBs too - by recommending it. Well, I call it recommendation - some would call it bribery... but the public have to be taught, don't they ?... You betcha.. Also, the guy who works with me (normally a staunch Indie-rock Fan) went home tonight clutching not only ATGB (which he described as "really cool") but also the first 5 Remastered Roxy Albums. Is that brainwashing or what ?... Hey maybe some slackers have good taste... Cheers all, Johnny Reece... PS I'm doing a bit more Radio work soon - and want a few suggestions from fellow Avalonians... Apparently - there's a 'relaunch' of Radio Luxembourg soon (end of Nov.) and it will be on A.M. all over Europe, and Digital and Analog satellite too - but also 'Live' around the World on the Internet. The powers that be have asked me to present my 'Album Zone' Show (which is the sort of thing I usually do anyway) every Sunday evening, 9-11pm UK time. Now, I insist on starting my first Show for them with a Roxy track - so, the question is - what should it be, in your humble opinions ? I'd like to know... suggestions welcome.... (currently i'm thinking 'Grey Lagoons' - what d'ya reckon, people ?... My suggestion: Bogus Man or Bittersweet. It would knock them out. I think you have a cool gig!. Keep on selling the unsuspecting public those Roxy copies. We need more recruits. Jas - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:46:49 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] the King of Sangfroid Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:05:05 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: [AVALON] Spoiler review of show >From the I-music site Bryan Ferry Croons Through A Century In Tour Opener Nov 4, 1999, 1:15 pm PT Bryan Ferry Once a master of arty outrageousness and then the very model of a modern jaded sophisticate, Bryan Ferry took the stage at the 9:30 Club in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday (Nov. 4) for the opening night of his latest American tour in a new guise -- sincere crooner, anxious to convey his on-going love affair with pop standards. ... As he vogued through the latter glam-rock anthem, Ferry's bouyant enthusiasm was positively, and surprisingly, endearing. The king of tragic sangfroid still rocks, too. - - -- Marianne Meyer Excuse my ignorance, but the king of tragic sangfroid? Wha........ Someone please translate Jas - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 00:55:44 -0600 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] double standards Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:32:07 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Carpet Crawlers Sorry! the most PLAYED double album of all time "The Beatles" !! (only Beatles album I ever got as a CD!) - - --TriTri Ditto and I have all the rest on CD. Jas - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #353 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest