From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #347 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, November 4 1999 Volume 04 : Number 347 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Instrumentals ["Simon Galloway" ] RE: [AVALON] On The Road [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] REMASTERS - absound ["Alan Pestridge" ] Re: [AVALON] Our Kinki Webmistresse ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] Literary reference ["Garratt, Chris" ] Re: [AVALON] Bride ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures ["Amy Bettisworth" ] [AVALON] Bryan in DC ["Steve Kistulentz" ] Re: [AVALON] Bride [Don Becker ] Re: [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures [William Sommers ] RE: [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures [Jocelyn Fiske ] RE: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... [William Sommers ] [AVALON] Ferry, Matan and Killip all smile. ["Killip family" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:45:50 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Instrumentals I'm with you on this. I've been saying for years that Bryan should just do an instrumental record. I've always found that he was exploring similar "sonic terrortory" (sorry, I've lost the ability to spell this morning) to Eno. Just listen to the textures on Avalon for proof of that. As a long time fan, Mamouna was a big dissapointment, and if Bryan had just let go of the need to put lyrics to every track then it would have been better. Another covers album - has he lost it? No, but he shouldn't worry about it so much. I like instrumentals and I like the music he makes, so I'd be happy!!! SimonG >>> "Gregory A. Koetting" 11/04 5:31 am >>> Ohhh puhleeeze, Colleen! :-D To be honest- I think an instrumental Bryan Ferry album might be cooler than you think... I can't in no way imagine Bryan doing the cheesy new age thing- his style has much more individuality than that. I am a big fan of David Sylvian and I remember how much I loved "Secrets of the Beehive." A year later he released a new album and it was an album of two long ambient pieces. I didn't know what to think as I always thought of Sylvian as a phenomenal vocalist (first) and a great keyboard player (second). And then the next year he releases another ambient album and I'm thinking that indeed he may have lost his voice. He even releases one more ambient album a year later! It wasn't until 6 years after "Secrets.." that he releases another vocal album. BUT, the instrumental stuff really grew on me. And I consider his ambient works to be as important as his vocal works (heresy as it may be). Given "Nocturne" as a small example of what he might produce sans vocals, I'd like to see what he could come up with... greggie/atlanta "..............................." - -david sylvian from "Flux + Mutability" Colleen Matan wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, gareth mc ginley wrote: > > [...] > > > BF has produced some fabulous instrumental tracks. The early Roxy flip > > sides allow for some magic improvisation, Tara and India deserve the much > > used and abused term "beautiful" and Nocturne, Valentine, and Because Your > > Mine are excellent mood pieces. > > > > This is why I never worry too much about Ferry running out of time. There'd > > be plenty of stuff like this for him if he does eventually lose his voice. > > Brilliant. Ferry as John Tesh. Or as Yanni. The Third Sign of the > Apocalypse, I believe. > > (Uh, Gareth, you *are* having us all on, right)? > > Colleen > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:56:12 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] On The Road > > >> Who is going to what shows on the UK tour so that we can arrange > >meeting > > >and > > >> maybe sort out sharing travel & accomodation. I will be travelling by > > >car. > > >> > > >> Could you write your name below the shows you are going to so we can > >make > > > > > >> some arrangements:- > > >> > > >> > > >> 10 Liverpool Royal Court > > >> John O'Brien > > > David Killip (and wife) > > >> > > >> 12 Sheffield City Hall > > >> John O'Brien > > > David Killip > > >> > > >> 14 London Festival Hall > > > David Killip (and friend Mark) > > >> Andy Cooper > > Han Snijders Jocelyn Fiske > > > > > >> 15 Croydon Fairfield > > > David Killip (and friend Mark) > > >> Jocelyn Fiske > > >> > 17 Glasgow Clyde Auditorium > > >> John O'Brien > > > David Killip > > >> Gareth McGinley > > > >> 18 Newcastle City Hall > > >> John O'Brien > > > David Killip > > >> Gareth McGinley Jocelyn Fiske > > >> 19 Bristol > > >> Andy Cooper > > > > >> 21 Manchester Appollo > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> John O'Brien > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:37:08 -0000 From: "Alan Pestridge" Subject: Re: [AVALON] REMASTERS - absound Isn't that right though? I though the original didn't have Viginia Plain on it (in the UK at least). snip ... I've ordered them all from various places, but so far, I've only gotten two. The first Roxy Music Album (without Virginia Plain!), and Stranded. Both are in a cardboard, Mini-LP form, have a black paper edging with Japanese characters on the front and that say "HDCD" at the top, and come in a snug plastic bag. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:17:16 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Pretending to be Japanese The Remasters in the card sleeves are Japanese "style" but not actually from Japan and are limited edition. But, the remasters in standard jewel caes ALL come complete with lyrics. FYP is becoming tempting, if it wasn't for the fact that I've already got it 5 times over!! SimonG Karen Norton wrote: > > Instead of ordering the new remasters from someone like absound I just > waited until it came to my local HMV. I was in particular looking for > Avalon, which is a good thing because that's all they had in stock, and > found that the CD case (which was cardboard I think) was covered in a > plastic wrap that has a border around it with Japanese symbols on it. Did I > get one of the new remasters or is this a Japanese import? What do the > remasters look like? > > Thanks. > > K > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Hi, I have the following remasters in cardboard jackets: For Your Pleasure Stranded Siren I think I know where they were made. On the plastic sleeve was a sticker that said "Made In Canada". Then on the outside of the jacket is a Japanese 3/4" sleeve that says on the back "Printed in the EU". However upon further inspection on the CD itself it says "Made in the EU" on the label side that is a replica of a album(black with grooves). Hope this helps. It seems kinda misleading with the Japanese text on the border sleeve. Bye, Rod - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:54:04 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Our Kinki Webmistresse - ---------- >From: Kicki Gustafsson > The wonderful Twiggy and her classmate Bry can now be found at > http://home.op.se/opse3503 > Other news are marked with a neat little new-gif. Sweet Kinksta What started as a passport photo board has blossomed into a truly superb site. Is there a heaven ? I'd like to think so. In the meantime do do that voodoo that you do so well. (Ondes) Martenot - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:36:26 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Our Kinki Webmistresse >Sweet Kinksta > >What started as a passport photo board has blossomed into a truly superb >site. Is there a heaven ? I'd like to think so. In the meantime do do that >voodoo that you do so well. > >(Ondes) Martenot Cheri, you make me blush all over... What I would _really_ like to do is to put all reviews that you Avalonians will write about the ATGB-tour on the site. Would that be okay with you? I think it would be neat to have them all collected, and it would be easy for us to compare each others opinions. Since we alla know, there will be times likes this when we sit at home and reminisce...and how one's memory slips. Don't forget that Phil Manzanera has a link to the Avalon-site, so he's bound to check in on us from time to time. /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:38:30 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: Sv: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert >Kicki , > >I vaugely recall this being something to do with horrible press following >the tortured man in the hope of catching a clandestine meeting with him and >his lover. Only to find a man clinging to his illegitimate daughter. "I can >hear your laughter, I can see you smile". Heartbreaking. The press leave >either out of pity or decency. > >Well that's what I thought anyway. > >Rob Since I work as a journalist I can of course confess that this is how we hunt our victims every day... ;-) What I meant was, who is the little girl? In real life, not in the video. Kicki - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:55:06 +-100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Declercq?= Subject: [none] Hi, Here is the definition of ondes Martenot : ondes musicales ou ondes Martenot (nom de l'inventeur) , instrument de musique à clavier, monodique, dont le son est produit par les vibrations de lampes du type radioélectrique . Transl. Musical waves or Martenot waves (from de names of it's inventor), keyboard music instrument,monodic, which of the sound is produced by the vibrations of lamps of the radioelectric type. I know this is not crucial information but I'm sure it will interest some experts of the list. Ciao, Fred - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:10:00 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] REMASTERS - absound In a message dated 11/03/1999 1:53:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, don@adelphi.edu writes: << Here's my luck: www.artist-shop.com had all ten Roxy remasters, and I pre-ordered all ten. They also had the first five Ferry remasters, and will be stocking the last four when they come out. I pre-ordered the last four from them, but the first five are out of stock, and while Gary, who runs the shop, can get them, I'm not 100% sure it'll be in the cardboard sleeve, which is what I want. www.ab-cd.com has all five of the first Ferry remasters in stock. I ordered ATAP from them. www.cdnow.com is sending me TFT, TBSB, and IYM. www.101cd.com had a few of the album-sleeve ones in stock, and that's where I'm getting LST from. >> With Jason's harsh condemnation of absound, can someone tell me where the best price is for the First Five Roxy cds? Thanks. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 13:42:54 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road I don't know if it helps the On The Road tree if I list Avalonions, and friends, who I think are attending the Royal Festival Hall date on 14 December but here goes ... David Killip (and friend Mark) Andy Cooper Han Snijders Jocelyn Fiske (and 5 friends) John O'Brien Luc Morvellier Chris Turner Robert Whiteford (and Sue) Andrew Langley (and friend) Robert Fedder Caroline Fedder Martin Stockman Joanne Stockman Johnny Reece (+ ? friends) Pete Dewey Mrs J.R. Dewey Richard Swift 25 confirmed and counting . I hope I'm not buying the first round ! Regards Martini PS Bahi... hello .. still holding a ticket for you ... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:43:15 -0500 From: "Karen Norton" Subject: [AVALON] A GREAT Idea!!!! I think that's a wonderful idea!!!! Posting everyone's personal reviews will bring a touching, human and earthly quality to the Maestro's tour and keep his star shining bright (not that he needs any help from us to accomplish this)!!!! K - ------------------- Kicki wrote: What I would _really_ like to do is to put all reviews that you Avalonians will write about the ATGB-tour on the site. Would that be okay with you? I think it would be neat to have them all collected, and it would be easy for us to compare each others opinions. Since we alla know, there will be times likes this when we sit at home and reminisce...and how one's memory slips. Don't forget that Phil Manzanera has a link to the Avalon-site, so he's bound to check in on us from time to time. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:39:33 -0000 From: "Garratt, Chris" Subject: [AVALON] Literary reference 03/11/99 UK: PARADISE BY WAY OF COUNTY WEXFORD. By John Walsh. Yesterday, the writer and columnist John Walsh described the raucous experience of growing up in an Irish household in deepest south London. Today, in the second extract from his exuberant new memoir, he finds himself in Ireland at last ... But I liked Taig. For some reason I wanted his approval. He was considerably tougher than I, and good-looking, with urchin freckles and a cowlick of hair over one eye. We met up with local girls, two sisters called Brid and Celia. A photograph from that summer shows the four of us sitting on a bed. Taig is sitting beside Celia, looking as cool and sussed as Bryan Ferry. I have Brid's arm around my neck and am mugging for the camera in a get-me-outa-here pose, as though in some Carry On movie. ... This article is an edited extract from `The Falling Angels' by John Walsh, published by HarperCollins on 11 Nov (£16.99). `Independent' readers can order the book for £14.99 (inc p&p): call 0870 900 2050 (24 hours), quoting ref 826Q. The book will be read on Radio 4, 15-19 November, at 9.45am. INDEPENDENT 03/11/1999 P8 ____________________________________ IMPORTANT - this e-mail and the information that it contains may be confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Access by the intended recipient only is authorised. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on any information contained in this e-mail is hereby excluded. 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By the way, believe it or not, I'm actually listening to these Bryan Ferry CDs with virgin ears, as the only Bryan solo album I have that's not a compilation is Let's Stick Together... So far, I think IYM could've been the followup to Siren if Roxy had stuck together, which has me wondering if The Bridge Stripped Bare will be the artistic meeting point between Siren and Manifesto (haven't had time to listen to it, though as soon as I hit "Send" it's going into my CD player.) - --Don - -- Don Becker don@adelphi.edu http://becker.adelphi.edu Unix System Administrator, Adelphi University http://www.adelphi.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:32:52 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bride - ---------- >From: Don Becker > By the way, believe it or not, I'm actually listening to these Bryan Ferry > CDs with virgin ears, as the only Bryan solo album I have that's not a > compilation is Let's Stick Together Us purists might define that as a compilation ! > So far, I think IYM could've been > the followup to Siren if Roxy had stuck together, which has me wondering if > The Bridge Stripped Bare will be the artistic meeting point between Siren > and Manifesto (haven't had time to listen to it, though as soon as I hit > "Send" it's going into my CD player.) Bride was, for me, a one-off in the cannon. A blend of self-penned angst and heartfelt covers it was, of course, directly inspired by Jerry's transfer of affections. He put together a bizarre mix of UK R'n'B combo Kokomo and celebrated US session players, mixed in a lot of drink and drugs, pitched up at a castle beside Lake Geneva and produced a masterpiece. A cri de coeur par excellence. Many songs would feature in a cognoscenti top twenty - Sign Of The Times, Can't Let Go, When She Walks In The Room, What Goes On, This Island Earth. Some of the stuff recorded in Montreaux that didn't make the album - "He'll have to go" and "Broken Wing" spring to mind - were perhaps too painful to be included, but illustrate how fecund this period was. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 11:44:39 -0500 From: "Amy Bettisworth" Subject: [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures Someone had asked yesterday about the catalog numbers for the Roxy remasters I got from absound. Here they are: Siren 7243 8 47456 2 2 Viva 7243 8 47436 2 8 Avalon 7243 8 47438 2 6 These are the cardboard cases. Hope that helps. Also, has anyone read "Unknown Pleasures" by Paul Stump? This may have been discussed before, but what an awful book! I knew I was in trouble when the back cover repeatedly spelled Bryan "Brian"! I've only made it through the first two sections, but the author seems to be fond of run on sentences that don't make a ton of sense. I'd be curious to hear what other's thoughts on this book are. Also, thanks for the review of last night's show. I couldn't help myself, I had to read it! I'll be at the Detroit show next Wednesday. I'm even more excited about it now that I've seen Colleen's write up! Amy B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:50:18 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bride >> By the way, believe it or not, I'm actually listening to these Bryan Ferry >> CDs with virgin ears, as the only Bryan solo album I have that's not a >> compilation is Let's Stick Together > >Us purists might define that as a compilation ! I of course wholehearteldly agree with Mr Stockman. > >Bride was, for me, a one-off in the cannon. A blend of self-penned angst and >heartfelt covers it was, of course, directly inspired by Jerry's transfer of >affections. He put together a bizarre mix of UK R'n'B combo Kokomo and >celebrated US session players, mixed in a lot of drink and drugs, pitched up >at a castle beside Lake Geneva and produced a masterpiece. A cri de coeur >par excellence. Many songs would feature in a cognoscenti top twenty - Sign >Of The Times, Can't Let Go, When She Walks In The Room, What Goes On, This >Island Earth. Some of the stuff recorded in Montreaux that didn't make the >album - "He'll have to go" and "Broken Wing" spring to mind - were perhaps >too painful to be included, but illustrate how fecund this period was. My remastered copies arrived of Bride and Another TIme arrived in the mail today, alas only a few minutes before I had to dash off to work, but at least I had time enough to listen to In Crowd and Smoke Gets. I haven't listened to this record for like a hundered years or more, but I must say that these two gems are worth the cost for the whole record. And of course, the fabulous cover photo of the tuxedoenveloped Ferry. /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:08:29 -0500 From: "Steve Kistulentz" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan in DC Hi all, This is my first post to the list, so I don't know how many folks on the list are from the DC area, but I had the privilege of seeing Bryan's show last night at the 9:30 club. The orchestra is quite impressive: piano, bass, guitar, drums, a four-piece horn section, a four-piece string section, and a harp player who doubled on percussion and even sang a bit of backup. The show featured about 5 songs from the new record, plus a handful of various oldies. "Here's another blast from the past," Bryan said as way of introducing "Let's Stick Together." Other oldies included Avalon, Havana Moon, Do the Strand, Jealous Guy, and a few others I am sure I am forgetting. The show was sold out, and Bryan really seemed to be enjoying himself. It was clear to me that this album and tour is more of a labour of love for him, and it really came through in his performance. steve - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:01:49 -0500 (EST) From: Don Becker Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bride On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > >> By the way, believe it or not, I'm actually listening to these Bryan Ferry > >> CDs with virgin ears, as the only Bryan solo album I have that's not a > >> compilation is Let's Stick Together > > > >Us purists might define that as a compilation ! > > I of course wholehearteldly agree with Mr Stockman. Now, now... for those of us in the States who didn't get all those B-sides, it pretty much *was* all-new material... even if a good portion of it had already been released on Roxy's albums... Anyway, at first (ever!) listen to The Bride, I have to agree that it's quite the masterpiece. I can hear elements of the Manifesto sound, though it's not quite the "missing link" between the two Roxy eras - that title probably goes more to In Your Mind at this point, which I'm also quite fond of. And, yes, the angst and sorrow just comes pouring out of the speakers, doesn't it? As for These Foolish Things, it's an interestingly eclectic album... you can tell that Bryan was having fun with "Baby I Don't Care" and "It's My Party" (I think he would've swapped out the "Johnny" references in the latter for a female name if he had wanted to be dead-on serious), but there are plenty of serious moments throughout... though imagine my surprise at finally hearing the full version of "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" as opposed to the ubiquitous single edit. - --Don - -- Don Becker don@adelphi.edu http://becker.adelphi.edu Unix System Administrator, Adelphi University http://www.adelphi.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:10:38 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures At 11:44 AM 11/4/99 -0500, Amy Bettisworth wrote: > Someone had asked yesterday about the catalog numbers for the Roxy > remasters I got from absound. Here they are: > > Siren 7243 8 47456 2 2 > Viva 7243 8 47436 2 8 > Avalon 7243 8 47438 2 6 > > These are the cardboard cases. Hope that helps. Bingo. Should anybody still be considering using absound, the "REMASTERED" listings are the ones (apart from the lower numbers clue all along, note the confirmation in correlation of digits -- e.g. 47438 for Avalon). ROXY MUSIC AVALON (REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247460 ROXY MUSIC AVALON (REMASTERED) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247438 ROXY MUSIC SIREN (REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247455 ROXY MUSIC SIREN (REMASTERED) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247456 ROXY MUSIC VIVA! ROXY MUSIC(REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247457 ROXY MUSIC VIVA! ROXY MUSIC-LIVE(REMASTER $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247436 Thanks, Amy! -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:03:27 -0000 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures I seem to make a habit of falling for this phoney stuff. Yes I bought the book (again intrigued by the author's name, I mean Stump? Come on!) I found it very useful. My dining room table hasn't wobbled since I got it.- Jocelyn > --------- > From: Amy Bettisworth[SMTP:abettisworth@donerus.com] > Reply To: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: 04 November 1999 17:44 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] absound/unknown pleasures > > Someone had asked yesterday about the catalog numbers for the Roxy > remasters I got from absound. Here they are: > > Siren 7243 8 47456 2 2 > Viva 7243 8 47436 2 8 > Avalon 7243 8 47438 2 6 > > These are the cardboard cases. Hope that helps. > > Also, has anyone read "Unknown Pleasures" by Paul Stump? This may have > been discussed before, but what an awful book! I knew I was in trouble > when the back cover repeatedly spelled Bryan "Brian"! I've only made it > through the first two sections, but the author seems to be fond of run on > sentences that don't make a ton of sense. I'd be curious to hear what > other's thoughts on this book are. > > Also, thanks for the review of last night's show. I couldn't help myself, > I had to read it! I'll be at the Detroit show next Wednesday. I'm even > more excited about it now that I've seen Colleen's write up! > > Amy B. > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:33:00 -0500 From: "Karen Norton" Subject: RE: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... I'm sorry gang. I've been following these threads, but now I'm confused. What is the difference between "REMAST ORG" and "REMASTERED" and which are the ones I should be ordering? As I mentioned in an earlier post, I picked up the Avalon CD that comes in the cardboard jacket with the Japanese style bordering and John responded that these are the new remasters and they sound fantastic. Which is what? Thanks!! Signed, Confused - ---------------- Amy wrote: > Bingo. Should anybody still be considering using absound, the > "REMASTERED" > listings are the ones (apart from the lower numbers clue all along, note > the confirmation in correlation of digits -- e.g. 47438 for Avalon). > > ROXY MUSIC AVALON (REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247460 > ROXY MUSIC AVALON (REMASTERED) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247438 > > ROXY MUSIC SIREN (REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247455 > ROXY MUSIC SIREN (REMASTERED) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247456 > > ROXY MUSIC VIVA! ROXY MUSIC(REMAST ORG) $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247457 > ROXY MUSIC VIVA! ROXY MUSIC-LIVE(REMASTER $7.82/$11.49 CAP V247436 > > Thanks, Amy! > > > -wfs > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:51:05 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] addendum From what I can recall, these are the songs from the new album that were played last night: As Time Goes By The Way You Look Tonight I'm in the Mood for Love (?) Where or When Sweet and Lovely(?) Time on My Hands (?) Falling in Love Again Love Me or Leave Me You Do Something to Me September Song Just One Of Those Things I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the opener was "The Way You Look Tonight." A word about how the new songs sounded, since I'm here: better than on the album--that is alive and with a pulse. But then again, that is often--although not always--a function of live music, no? But I gotta tell you there is a world of difference between the spare arrangements of the old songs on the new album, and something like the lush "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes." It was like a whole other dimension of sound was added when "Smoke" started up. The band/orchestra is good, but since they've really just started playing together, they've yet to distinguish themselves as a group since they really don't even know each other. This was compounded by the fact that Ferry said the original bassist for the tour had met with a "personal tragedy" and the guy who was with them last night was a last-minute replacement. I'm sure they'll eventually add another dimension, and they are certainly accomplished enough (the horn section seemed especially 'on' last night). And the reworking of the older material, especially "Sunset," was just a delight. Unexpected and funny, in a way, but also ironic without being campy. It was especially fun to watch the band members work their way through the old stuff with the addition of the enthusiastic crowd--it had to be an experience entirely different from the rehearsals. I'm not sure they were prepared for the reception they got. I mean, I wonder of them even knew who Mr. Ferry was before they got this gig? Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:30:03 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: RE: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... At 12:33 PM 11/4/99 -0500, Karen Norton wrote: > I'm sorry gang. I've been following these threads, but now I'm > confused. What is the difference between "REMAST ORG" and > "REMASTERED" and which are the ones I should be ordering? Conclusion is: REMASTERED is the cardboard sleeve version REMAST ORG is the jewel case For the absound site, that is. And that's merely *my* conclusion, I should point out. -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 99 20:58:59 UT From: "Robert Fedder" Subject: RE: [AVALON] ATGB - the single No joy in Our Price Horsham either. Album, yes, single no. Richard Swift wrote : > Other artistes have well mobilised fans who know exactly where and when to > buy releases to secure chart success and whilst we are relatively small in > number I think this is something we should consider. It simply won't do to > buy the single the week after it's released because - on recent form - it > could be finished by then (especially since the vast majority of singles > have even shorter life spans than they did when Bryan last released a single > in the UK). The single is receiving some airplay and some favourable reviews > (BBC Ceefax for example), but in the light of apathy amongst some retailers > and a less than committed record company, the airplay is only likely to > continue if a reasonable chart position is achieved. > > Let's see if, together, we can make a small difference! > > > I went to my local Our Price (Folkestone , Kent, UK) . This is not a huge town but hardly small either. An hour ago. Guess how many copies of ATGB are in there? It's a round number. Same in Woolworths who haven't even got the album yet even though it's at a respectable no 16. VERY respectable given the promotion and distribution. Richard I agree with all you said but every time we have this. Mamouna was not available as a single in the Our Price either. Other artists appear to be able to get their records into the shops. It will absolutely not be even a minor hit if you can only get it in major towns. Wonder if JF Roxy had any luck in Hamilton? I don't think Virgin give a stuff whether he sells or not, so long as they don't have to make an effort. Martin Stockman : Did Juliet Mann express a view on Virgins performance after your message? Good luck to those hunting the single of this major artist Rob > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:40:57 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] Voodoo "do do that voodoo that you do so well". Isn't that a cracking line? David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:50:17 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry, Matan and Killip all smile. *And a truly radiant version of "Where Or When," a song I had already fallen competely in love with, where even Ferry seemed to vanish into its loveliness and yearning during the bridge. This is great news...this song is truly superb on ATGB.... Despite the fact that I will be attending 6 of the UK concerts Colleen, I read all of your posting...Thank you and congratulations. David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:30:17 EST From: GasHeart@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry, Matan and Killip all smile. In a message dated 11/4/99 8:07:43 PM, killip.family@advsys.co.uk writes: << Despite the fact that I will be attending 6 of the UK concerts Colleen, I read all of your posting...Thank you and congratulations. >> i'm going tonight in philadelphia...and i was glad to read about it first.....and drag out my tapes and listen.... thanks josh gasheart@aol.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:16:58 -0000 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] absound/Remasters - Confused... Where is Monkey Boy ? Rumour has it he has acquired a top job promoting Bryan Ferry for Virgin. Rob - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:07:12 -0000 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road - ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Stockman To: Sent: 04 November 1999 12:42 Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road Martin Wrote : > 25 confirmed and counting . > > I hope I'm not buying the first round ! > > Regards > > Martini > > No Mr Stockman you can buy the second round when EVERYONE has turned up ?! > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) From: axelbartoli@cheerful.com Subject: [AVALON] MoreThanThisVideo? Greetings to all, I appologise for yet more boring queries BUT; does anybody know of RM playing More Than This live on a video, or did they produce a promotional video to go with the release of the single? I havn't seen it done on any of the videos i've seen and was wondering if it existed? Thanks, Alex. P.S. Thanks to Han for directing me to Phil's 'bullitin board' regarding his guitars, and thanks to JFROXY for details about his 'Warhol-alike' Stranded poster. Are there any Roxy posters at all that are still availible, or does anybody have any they would like to sell? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:16:35 +0100 From: "Luc Morvillier" Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road - -----Message d'origine----- De : Jocelyn Fiske À : 'avalon@smoe.org' Date : jeudi 4 novembre 1999 11:12 Objet : RE: [AVALON] On The Road > >> > >> Who is going to what shows on the UK tour so that we can arrange >> >meeting >> > >and >> > >> maybe sort out sharing travel & accomodation. I will be travelling by >> > >car. >> > >> >> > >> Could you write your name below the shows you are going to so we can >> >make >> > > >> > >> some arrangements:- >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> 10 Liverpool Royal Court >> > >> John O'Brien >> > > David Killip (and wife) >> > >> >> > >> 12 Sheffield City Hall >> > >> John O'Brien >> > > David Killip >> > >> >> > >> 14 London Festival Hall >> > > David Killip (and friend Mark) >> > >> Andy Cooper >> > Han Snijders > Jocelyn Fiske >> Luc Morvillier >> > >> > >> 15 Croydon Fairfield >> > > David Killip (and friend Mark) >> > >> Jocelyn Fiske >> > >> >> > 17 Glasgow Clyde Auditorium >> > >> John O'Brien >> > > David Killip >> > >> Gareth McGinley >> >> > >> 18 Newcastle City Hall >> > >> John O'Brien >> > > David Killip >> > >> Gareth McGinley > Jocelyn Fiske > >> > >> 19 Bristol >> > >> Andy Cooper >> > >> > >> 21 Manchester Appollo >> > >> >> > >> Regards >> > >> >> > >> John O'Brien >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-------------------- >> >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> >unsubscribe avalon >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -------------------- >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon >> > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #347 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest