From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #343 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, November 2 1999 Volume 04 : Number 343 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" ["Gregory A. ] [AVALON] For Eddie Jobson fans [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" [ASchulbe] [AVALON] On The Road ["Andy Cooper" ] Re: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" [Colleen ] Re: [AVALON] On The Road [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Yet Another View ["gareth mc ginley" ] Re: [AVALON] Another View [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Yet Another View [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] More Styles Served Here ["Killip family" ] Re: [AVALON] Bio/ Fanzine [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Another View [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] George Michael / Ferrys Confidence ["Robert Whiteford" ] [AVALON] Re: "Q" - December & remasters ["Richard Swift" ] [AVALON] More Styles Served Here [Chris Turner ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 05:30:50 -0500 From: "Gregory A. Koetting" Subject: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" If only because I contribute nothing *new* to the group I really, really hope I'm the first to figure out the poem from "I'm In the Mood For Love" First of all, I'd like to admonish Mark Shanahan for not figuring this out before me... :-D I am a big fan of David Sylvian as well as Bryan Ferry and I thought that I had read somewhere someone couldn't quite decipher the last female-spoken lyrics at the end of "I'm in the Mood for Love." I decided to take an extra-close listen and this is what I have come up with... It is a poem by Arthur Rimbaud (French) and it's from the late 19th century... The poem is called "Ophelie" (Ophelia) and the lyrics are as: Sur l'onde calme et noire ou dorment les etoiles Flotte tres lentement, couchee en ses longs voiles Voici plus de mille ans que la triste Ophelie Voici plus de mille ans que sa douce folie Murmure sa romance a la brise du soir tu viens chercher, la nuit, les fleurs que tu cueillis, [end in a French line of prose not of this poem] This 'reciting' leaves out about 75% of the actual poem and yet the lines chosen really seem fairly well put together even as taken 'out if place.' Why do I know this poem? There was an excellent cd produced a couple of years ago called "Sahara Blue" which starred many musical cool-types like Dead Can Dance, David Sylvian, Ryuichi Sakamoto, and a crillion others... The song "Ophelie" just happens to be my favorite from that album... Funny to see Ferry using this.. but perhaps not completely out of character for him... greggie/atlanta "ne me demandez a traduire la poeme s'il vous plait!" - -greggie apres quatre vers du vin rouge - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:53:56 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] For Eddie Jobson fans - --part1_0.e87998e4.25501cc4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've forwarded this from the Eddie Jobson mailing list thinking it would be of interest to EJ fans on the AVALON list, particularly the e-mail address to ask Eddie questions. Arnie << Arnie wrote: >Lennart- In some recent interviews Bryan Ferry has hinted that there could be >a Roxy reunion, maybe next year. Since Brian Eno doesn't tour (and even if he >did, it'd still be better to have Eddie on keyboards and violin) can you ask >Eddie whether there have been any discussions with him concerning such a >tour, if he'd be receptive and, in general, his feelings about Roxy, past, >present and future. You (all) can ask Eddie these kind of questions yourselves through this e-mail address (that's what Lennart did). I'm sure though that Eddie wouldn't be interested in touring with Roxy and that he wasn't asked (remember that there was a reunion before for which he wasn't asked, since they know he wouldn't be interested, like I think Eno wouldn't be interested BTW), because this Roxy period is all behind him now. From all interviews I read I've learned, that he doesn't want to look back too much. But you can ask it himself anyway... through ejobson@dds.nl. >> - --part1_0.e87998e4.25501cc4_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.37]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:44:12 -0400 Received: from onelist.com (pop3.onelist.com [209.207.164.249]) by rly-yc05.mx.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:44:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 3231 invoked by alias); 31 Oct 1999 07:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 3220 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1999 07:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (209.207.164.239) by pop3.onelist.com with QMQP; 31 Oct 1999 07:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO emout1.wish.net) (212.72.51.61) by mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 07:43:59 -0000 Received: from mail4.inside.servers (mail4.INSIDE.servers [10.1.0.8]) by emout1.wish.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A6A529ABA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:43:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 29747 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1999 07:43:58 -0000 Received: from p7317.nl.wish.net (HELO mkusmic.wish.net) ([212.123.166.149]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.outside.servers (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 31 Oct 1999 07:43:58 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991031084226.0079c800@pop3.dds.nl> X-Sender: ejobson@pop3.dds.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:42:26 +0100 To: EddieJobson@onelist.com From: ejobson@dds.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list EddieJobson@onelist.com; contact EddieJobson-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list EddieJobson@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Reply-to: EddieJobson@onelist.com Subject: [EddieJobson] questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: ejobson@dds.nl Arnie wrote: >Lennart- In some recent interviews Bryan Ferry has hinted that there could be >a Roxy reunion, maybe next year. Since Brian Eno doesn't tour (and even if he >did, it'd still be better to have Eddie on keyboards and violin) can you ask >Eddie whether there have been any discussions with him concerning such a >tour, if he'd be receptive and, in general, his feelings about Roxy, past, >present and future. You (all) can ask Eddie these kind of questions yourselves through this e-mail address (that's what Lennart did). I'm sure though that Eddie wouldn't be interested in touring with Roxy and that he wasn't asked (remember that there was a reunion before for which he wasn't asked, since they know he wouldn't be interested, like I think Eno wouldn't be interested BTW), because this Roxy period is all behind him now. From all interviews I read I've learned, that he doesn't want to look back too much. But you can ask it himself anyway... through ejobson@dds.nl... Cya. Milly - --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Britney, Eminem, Ricky Martin -- Artist of the Year or Year's Biggest Hype? Vote in the Rolling Stone Readers Poll! You could win a trip to the American Music Awards! Go here: Click Here  - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please spay or neuter your pets. - --part1_0.e87998e4.25501cc4_boundary-- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:05:06 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" In a message dated 11/02/1999 5:20:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, greggie@mindspring.com writes: << It is a poem by Arthur Rimbaud (French) and it's from the late 19th century... The poem is called "Ophelie" (Ophelia) and the lyrics are as: Sur l'onde calme et noire ou dorment les etoiles Flotte tres lentement, couchee en ses longs voiles Voici plus de mille ans que la triste Ophelie Voici plus de mille ans que sa douce folie Murmure sa romance a la brise du soir tu viens chercher, la nuit, les fleurs que tu cueillis, [end in a French line of prose not of this poem] >> Can we illiterate 'mericans get the English translation, please? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:19:49 -0000 From: "Andy Cooper" Subject: [AVALON] On The Road JObinv01@aol.com wrote........ Could you write your name below the shows you are going to so we can make some arrangements:- 14 London Festival Hall Andy Cooper 19 Bristol Andy & a spare ticket in the front row - my wife doesn't rate the new album and would prefer to sing with the choir at church that evening than go to Bristol :-( Maybe I'll bring my five yr old daughter - nah, maybe not! Cheers Andy - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Gregory A. Koetting wrote: [...] > It is a poem by Arthur Rimbaud (French) and it's from the late 19th > century... The poem is called "Ophelie" (Ophelia) and the lyrics are as: Thanks, Greggie, for IDing this for us. [In brackets are the missing lines from the stanzas.] > Sur l'onde calme et noire ou dorment les etoiles > Flotte tres lentement, couchee en ses longs voiles On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping, [White Ophelia floats like a great lily;] Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils... [In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.] > Voici plus de mille ans que la triste Ophelie > Voici plus de mille ans que sa douce folie > Murmure sa romance a la brise du soir For more than a thousand years sad Ophelia has passed, [A white ghost, down the long black river.] For more than a thousand years her sweet madness Had murmured its ballad to the evening breeze. > tu viens chercher, la nuit, les fleurs que tu cueillis, [And the Poet says that by starlight you come seeking,] In the night, the flowers that you gathered; [And that he has seen on the water, lying in her long veils,] [White Ophelia floating, like a great lily.] As Greggie notes, this is not the entire poem. The last line is from the last section (III) and rest is taken from the first two stanzas. Just another stupid American, Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:29:53 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road Count me in on that spare ticket J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:32:17 PST From: "gareth mc ginley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yet Another View >The Velvets sound dated? They recorded on dodgy equipment more than 30 >years ago - be considerate in your judgement. They were really a special >group of musicians. > Oh "Wise One", how could I possibly ruffle your feathers. The first Roxy album is my favourite by a mile but I wouldn't feel offended at all if somebody was to say to me that it sounds dated. "Roxy Music", in a way benefits from sounding dated. You're simply never going to hear another modern album like that. The music industry wouldn't allow it. The same is true for most of the Velvet Undergrounds back catalogue. It's just nice to hear an updated, fresher version of these songs, just to hear how they sound. I'd love to know what some of the original composers think of Bryans covers, but I bet there always amazed at his powers of reinvention. The Velvet Goldmine material from Roxy's first album stuck too rigidly to the the original format to be of interest, so we have yet to see what a truly modern version of the first Roxy album could sound like. Perhaps if Roxy were to comeback, this would be the most interesting project for them. Gareth ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:28:50 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another View On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Bahi Para wrote: [...] > I once saw Lou play in Manchester. It was an improbably serious occasion > during his Magic and Loss tour. A captivating performance that he and the > band delivered almost motionless, Lou in glasses with the words and music > open in front of him on a low music stand. I thought we'd lost the madman > in him forever. A few years later, I caught a one-off gig in a smallish, > smoky and beery venue, played as a warm-up for a forthcoming UK tour that > wasn't due to start for a month or two. It was a treat for the fans. The > old Lou was back, both guns blazing. He flew in, gave it everything, > brought the house down, and flew out again. Magical. So, Colleen, Gene, et > al - perhaps there's some hope for the yelping Bryan Ferry of yesteryear. Maybe. I saw Lou a long, long time ago--it must have been the New York tour. He was a wild man, challenging a heckler in the balcony to a fight after about the third song. "Let's step outside, m-----f-----." We all sat on our hands for the rest of the performance lest we incur Lou's wrath as well. Somehow though, if it's true about this loss of confidence on Ferry's part, I can't see him fronting the Roxy Music of old, while Lou seemed as pissed off as ever (although perhaps with the marriage to that Laurie Anderson creature he might have stopped snarling. A frightening prospect either way.). Maybe this tour will help Ferry get it back, but you know, I'm afraid for him. I'm afraid the reviews are going to compare him to the yelper of old, and however gentle and/or positive they are, they might not do much to bolster his self-confidence if comparisons to the past are made. > authentically - he said the same about These Foolish Things. This is the > sound of a man who knows that he's running out of time, fast. It's the > sound of what might have been - it's truly humbling. And to me the sad thing is that anyone would feel they are running out of time. Why should an artist of any ilk be obligated to have a career that spans 20, 25, 30 years? I mean, maybe a painter or a poet or a director, but even then there is generally a time when the output becomes less relevant and/or interesting. So why should pop stars--of all people--whose work I'd say turns precisely on how tied it is into the here and now be expected to carry that albatross forever? Why not be allowed to just retire gracefully with a decent body of work and not be subjected to this endless torture of self-invention? In other words, does everyone have to turn into Sting at some point? Certainly Ferry should be spared that fate. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:56:42 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yet Another View On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, gareth mc ginley wrote: > sound. I'd love to know what some of the original composers think of Bryans > covers, but I bet there always amazed at his powers of reinvention. The > Velvet Goldmine material from Roxy's first album stuck too rigidly to the > the original format to be of interest, so we have yet to see what a truly > modern version of the first Roxy album could sound like. Perhaps if Roxy > were to comeback, this would be the most interesting project for them. Heaven forfend. I'd rather that they never reformed than spend their time retreading this well-worn path. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:32:57 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] UK Tour - update musings I've received a letter from Sheffield City Hall giving details of a change of time for the concert there on Dec. 12 from 7.30 to 8 p.m. No other venue has been in touch, so maybe this is related to the concert being on a Sunday?! Anyone know? Also, I notice that my Newcastle ticket indicates that there is "no support"..I suppose this is the case for all the concerts in UK. Will this mean a long set from Bryan, or an early arrival in the pub? David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:37:37 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road - ---------- > From: JObinv01@aol.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Cc: JObinv01@aol.com > Subject: [AVALON] On The Road > Date: 01 November 1999 18:55 > > Who is going to what shows on the UK tour so that we can arrange meeting and > maybe sort out sharing travel & accomodation. I will be travelling by car. > > Could you write your name below the shows you are going to so we can make > some arrangements:- > > > 10 Liverpool Royal Court > John O'Brien David Killip (and wife) > > 12 Sheffield City Hall > John O'Brien David Killip > > 14 London Festival Hall David Killip (and friend Mark) > > 15 Croydon Fairfield David Killip (and friend Mark) > > 17 Glasgow Clyde Auditorium > John O'Brien David Killip > > 18 Newcastle City Hall > John O'Brien David Killip > > 19 Bristol > > 21 Manchester Appollo > > Regards > > John O'Brien > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:40:30 -0000 From: "Killip family" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Styles Served Here How very unkind! D - ---------- > From: Martin Stockman > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Styles Served Here > Date: 01 November 1999 13:48 > > > > > > BTW, anyone know if the song, "Another Time, Another Place" was every > > performed live by our Bryan? > > > > Arnie > > > Hi Arnie > > It was missing, sadly, from the tour of that name. All those tempo changes > would have thoroughly confused Paul T .. > > Martin > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:04:06 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bio/ Fanzine I'm sure a fanzine would be great, but I'd more than happy to put at least part of this stuff on my site. "Stockman on Style" perhaps? /Kicki G >I was quite interested to read Frederic's idea on putting together a bio on >RM/ BF. It really would be the very ultimate in BF/ RM reference. However, >since very few people have the time for something as massive as this Reecies >idea on a fanzine would be much more realistic. > >You may ask, why have a fanzine when you've got all these websites? But I >think it would work. Fanzines serve a different function to websites. They >allow more scope for thought and would give Avalonia some hard output. We >could have a release twice per year. Martin's pieces on style on this list >have often been more inspiring than BF/ RM's own style itself (Who needs >Anthony Price, when you've got Martin). I'm sure he could write some never >to be forgotten pieces on the likes of the White jacket and of course the >scarf and white socks, which have provided excellent reading recently. We >could also include a "History of Avalonia". And it really does have quite a >history now....what with Vapor, the classic hoax, the cd/ video tree, >conventions etc. We could do a major article on one particular song per >issue, a section on "When I met BF", an article on bootlegs, an article on >b-sides, possibly an interview with one of the band members and many other >things too. Bahi, aXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:06:07 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bio/ Fanzine >Manzanera's website is updated and the first part of Bryan's Bio is there. >They even started a kind of bulletin board. It works a bit slow but you can >ask very detailed questions and they give a personal answer. >Who was that new Avalonion who had this talk about Phil's guitars. I think >you can get the answers from the maestro himself. > >Regards >Han But we is there no reference to this list on that site?? /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:15:07 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another View >relevant and/or interesting. So why should pop stars--of all >people--whose work I'd say turns precisely on how tied it is into the here >and now be expected to carry that albatross forever? Why not be allowed >to just retire gracefully with a decent body of work and not be subjected >to this endless torture of self-invention? In other words, does everyone >have to turn into Sting at some point? Certainly Ferry should be spared >that fate. > >Colleen I actually agree 100 % with you on this one, Colleen. I'm really hoping that there will _not_ be a Roxy reunion, because of these reasons. Roxy was a wonderful, marvelous band, but who can honestly believe that a reunion after some 18 years will be anything but pathetic? /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:23:14 -0000 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] George Michael / Ferrys Confidence Someone wrote "Didn't he take matters into his own hands?" Sorry to annoy George Michael fans on this list but I hope you will all forgive me ......... Can you imagine the "Cool Ruler" , the "Lounge Lizard" , the "Prisoner of Perfection" , "Byron Ferrari " being caught masturbating with a copper watching in a public lavatory.? No , neither can I. And lest anyone misinterprets this I have no problem whatsoever with gay men. Just ones who commit public decency offences and use their homosexuality as some sort of excuse. Ferrys confidence : I have a great deal of sympathy with the views expressed that time is running out for Ferry. Is he finished ? Well I would have said yes when I heard about ATGB. But having heard it I love it. It's still getting better and the lure of older albums hasn't proved attractive yet. Listening to ATGB I was just thinking how much better it is than previous patchy solo efforts. ATAP (all of it), "Heart on my Sleeve" , "In your mind" (most of it) and a lot of "Taxi " spring to mind. He's trying something new and he needed to. Well done I say - to some extent this IS the Ferry of old saying "Damn you all I'm doing something unexpected and strange but I'm doing it with loads of class". Life in the Maestro yet I think. Mind you it would help if you could buy his records in the shops. Rob. - ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: 02 November 1999 04:03 Subject: Re: [AVALON] George Michael takes a cue from Bryan Ferry - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:03:50 +0100 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Styles Served Here Heather wrote: Please excuse my newness, but - I don't quite understand what this means? Will there be a CD or achived material available sometime soon? As this is ASSH2, was there a previous ASSH1 archive CD available? We have had some cd-trees in the past, the last one was a compilation CD that we made after the RFH charity-gig Bryan did a few months ago. Andy Cooper did the recording of the RFH show and John O'Brien gave me the live Aid Performance; All Styles Served Here: 1 Will You Still Love Me (accoustic live version Later with Jools Holland) 2 The Right Stuff 3 Kiss And Tell (Saturday night live) 4 Sensation 5 Boys And Girls 6 Slave To Love 7 Jealous Guy (Live Aid) 8 Slave To Love 9 Jealous Guy 10 Let's Stick Together 11 Hey Jude (Heineken Night Of the Promms) 12 I'll Die For You 13 John Harding (Melt Down Festival, Royal Festival Hall) If anyone wants a copy. Mail me, and I send you one for the price of the blanc cd and the shippingcost. I will inform the list when the next one is ready. Regards Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 14:51:00 -0500 From: "Amy Bettisworth" Subject: [AVALON] Test - please delete - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:57:50 +0100 From: "Gitte E. Hollesen" Subject: Sv: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert Yeah, the spots starts with Bryan dancing (from theAvalon video), then the part from Slave to Love, where he gets off the plane (and journalists), then parts from Will you still love me.. and Girl of my best friend. All shown with new songs played... Gitte. - -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Alexander Papazoglu Til: avalon@smoe.org Dato: 1. november 1999 11:41 Emne: Re: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert >I saw a glimpse off it on danish TV. I'm not sure but I think I saw the "will >you still love me tomorrow" video as they palyed >"I'm in the mood for Love". > >Alex > >Richard Swift wrote: > >> Has anyone seen the TV ad yet? I know it's been on but know nothing about >> the detail. >> >> Richard >> >> -------------------- >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:58:03 +0100 From: "Peter Skillwood" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" Congratulations to Colleen and Arnie from a French who was not able to find out this poem before you. Very impressive !!! Luc - -----Message d'origine----- De : Colleen Matan À : avalon@smoe.org Date : mardi 2 novembre 1999 13:16 Objet : Re: [AVALON] Poeme a la fin du chant "I'm in The Mood for Love" > > > >On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Gregory A. Koetting wrote: > >[...] > >> It is a poem by Arthur Rimbaud (French) and it's from the late 19th >> century... The poem is called "Ophelie" (Ophelia) and the lyrics are as: > >Thanks, Greggie, for IDing this for us. > >[In brackets are the missing lines from the stanzas.] > >> Sur l'onde calme et noire ou dorment les etoiles >> Flotte tres lentement, couchee en ses longs voiles > >On the calm black water where the stars are sleeping, >[White Ophelia floats like a great lily;] >Floats very slowly, lying in her long veils... >[In the far-off woods you can hear them sound the mort.] > >> Voici plus de mille ans que la triste Ophelie >> Voici plus de mille ans que sa douce folie >> Murmure sa romance a la brise du soir > >For more than a thousand years sad Ophelia has passed, >[A white ghost, down the long black river.] >For more than a thousand years her sweet madness >Had murmured its ballad to the evening breeze. > >> tu viens chercher, la nuit, les fleurs que tu cueillis, > >[And the Poet says that by starlight you come seeking,] >In the night, the flowers that you gathered; >[And that he has seen on the water, lying in her long veils,] >[White Ophelia floating, like a great lily.] > >As Greggie notes, this is not the entire poem. The last line is from the >last section (III) and rest is taken from the first two stanzas. > > >Just another stupid American, > >Colleen > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:11:20 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert Does anyone have this and / or any earlier TV ads on video and if so is it feasible that any could find their way onto the upcoming video compilation (or perhaps any future compilation)?? I know they're only advertisements but I'm sure they'd be of interest to all collectors. Albums I can recall being advertised in the UK are Street Life, The Ultimate Collection, More Than This, Taxi, As Time Goes By. As far as I can recall I don't have recordings of these (I recall the earlier Street Life ads were fairly lengthy). Regards, Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Gitte E. Hollesen To: Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:57 PM Subject: Sv: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert > Yeah, the spots starts with Bryan dancing (from theAvalon video), then the part from Slave to Love, where he gets off the plane (and journalists), then parts from Will you still love me.. and Girl of my best friend. All shown with new songs played... > > Gitte. > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Alexander Papazoglu > Til: avalon@smoe.org > Dato: 1. november 1999 11:41 > Emne: Re: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert > > > >I saw a glimpse off it on danish TV. I'm not sure but I think I saw the "will > >you still love me tomorrow" video as they palyed > >"I'm in the mood for Love". > > > >Alex > > > >Richard Swift wrote: > > > >> Has anyone seen the TV ad yet? I know it's been on but know nothing about > >> the detail. > >> > >> Richard > >> > >> -------------------- > >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >> unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:29:30 +0000 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another View Colleen wrote: >In other words, does everyone have to turn into Sting at some point? Recording artists *do* seem to feel the need to continue. Asking why that's so is like asking why the rich seem so driven by the prospect of further riches or why the already beautiful contemplate plastic surgery. Bryan, asked by a baffled radio presenter in 1986 why a relatively rich, famous, and respected man like himself wanted more hit singles and albums, cited "the need to be loved, the need for approval." He also noted rather drily, and much to the interviewer's amusement, that for his part he hadn't noticed "any slackening off" in this area. He believed, I think, that he hadn't done his best work yet. I remind myself of the period between '74 and '77 that gave us Another Time, Another Place and In Your Mind. As briefly interesting as it is to hear someone so good focus on largely mundane things, I just can't take this sort of stuff seriously. (I know they both have their high points, but as albums...) Despite the miserable tone of my message yesterday, I'm enjoying most of the new album - even something like The Way You Look Tonight, that seemed on first listen to be so at odds with Bryan's chosen vocal style, sounds fantastic. It may have been recorded 400 times more quickly than Mamouna but it was rehearsed well. And if the idea of hearing Jealous Guy and Let's Stick Together again is slightly depressing, well, we have so many good things to listen to that complaints seem a little unfair. Bryan moves on. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:31:07 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] Re: "Q" - December & remasters There's a short but very favourable review of the album in this month's "Q" as well as a generally good review of the first 5 Ferry remasters and the final 5 Roxy releases. HMV also have a prominent half page ad for ATGB near the front with a very warm recommendation. On the subject of Bryan's confidence and potential longevity, I'm sure that in the wake of so much good press for the album he must feel pretty bouyant at the moment. If his record company were any good they'd be seriously considering exploiting what we hope will be a successful album by a live album say next Spring, commemorating the Ferry 'unplugged' tour. I read today how impressed Chrysalis records have been with the Blondie reunion and the way their live appearances have been received, so much so that they plan a live album from their current tour next year. I for one would welcome the opportunity to own a recording of the upcoming tour given its (hitherto) unique nature. Live albums haven't been the most successful releases for Bryan in the past but this could exploit the popularity of 'unplugged' recordings and the ATGB project, hopefully generating royalties at very little cost to secure the timely completion of the next album in late 2000 (potentially 3 albums in the space of 14 months - no I haven't been drinking - just thinking what could be if Bryan had a record company with some foresight and prepared to service his fans). Incidentally, I received the last four remastered CDs yesterday from Keymailorder - good going since they were only released yesterday. Although I haven't listened closely to all the remasters yet, I'm coming to the conclusion, somewhat surprisingly, that the more recent albums have more to offer than the older ones. "Avalon" for example sounded brilliant compared to the original CD and "Bete Noire" is a joy to the ears remastered - especially "Limbo". I haven't yet got around to "Taxi" or "Mamouna" but based purely on the aforementioned albums I'd recommend anyone who is unsure about the value of these to make the investment - you won't play the original CDs again (trust me!). Regards Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:16:48 -0000 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: "Q" - December & remasters - ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Swift To: Sent: 02 November 1999 22:31 Subject: [AVALON] Re: "Q" - December & remasters Thanks Richard, I must admit I was wondering about these but will buy them now. Boys and Girls, Bete Noire and Mamouna are all class albums. Rob I'd recommend anyone who is unsure > about the value of these to make the investment - you won't play the > original CDs again (trust me!). > > Regards > > Richard > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:19:30 +0000 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another View Miles Goosens wrote: >FWIW, *my* very favorite album ever is the Velvet Underground's 1969 LIVE, >an "official bootleg" that captures the band touring for the third album >and in the midst of writing what would be LOADED. [...] >IMO the live versions of SIREN stuff (the fabulous VIVA! take of "Both >Ends Burning" >and the other songs via bootlegs) far outstrip their wan studio >doppelgangers. The VU's 1969 Live is a favourite of mine, too but I haven't paid Viva! the attention it deserves. It was the studio dream that always did it for me with all things Ferry. 1969 Live was initially a disappointment - it seemed like any old rock'n'roll band doing its thing, a far cry from the group's Warhol years - but it's one of the very few albums that I've repeat-played over weeks and months. Amazingly good. B - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 00:25:20 +0000 From: Chris Turner Subject: [AVALON] More Styles Served Here Hello All, For Gareth and those others who have asked about the Twiggy tracks, I'm sorry to relate that this is strictly an AUDIO tape, acquired recently from a friend who may possibly be lurking among us. I'll respect his anonymity but the group thanks him I'm sure. The tape is a little rough it must be said, and of dubious musical value but for pure kitschness it's hard to beat, and of course is essential for sad completists like myself... The Twiggy video remains the holy grail for Ferryists... I realise that there are people joining the group all the time, particularly as new releases are stimulating new interest in Ferry, so perhaps it's as well to reiterate the CD Tree guidelines previously posted in this group. It's not my creation, I'm merely republishing it. Please do not mail me requesting this material, instructions will follow. THE CD / TAPE / VIDEO TREE GUIDELINE INTRODUCTION: Welcome to the Avalon list. This mail list is devoted to Roxy Music and related artist and bands. If you give this list a chance, I think you`ll find that it has a lot to offer in the way of Roxy Music news and items of interest. There are many music related mail lists available on the Internet but I`m sure you`ll find the Avalon list is special and different. One thing that we offer that is of interest to many people is a selection of rare and unique material not available to the mainstream public (read into this bootlegs) by way of out "CD/Video trees." The Roxy Music bootlegs distributed via our "trees" are aimed at people who love listening to Roxy, want to hear interesting, good Roxy, and groan at the hint of another damn no-end-in-sight CD box set that seem to re-hash the same old studio cuts, "b- sides", and "special mixes" over and over. Bootlegs offer a unique glimpse of the band on their natural turf....the stage. Please keep in mind that no one on the Avalon list is responsible for the existence of bootlegs albums, we merely have access to them, enjoy them and wish to spread the music. I`ve met many people on this mail list who were stunned by the brilliance of a certain song done live on a bootleg and revaluated their whole attitude to them. But first and foremost, the Avalon list is NOT just about bootlegs and anyone focusing only on this subject is missing out on some often stimulating, sometimes hilarious and most interesting people. WHAT A "TREE" IS AND HOW IT`S DONE: A "tree", as in Tape/Video/Cd "tree", is unique material relating to Roxy Music which is compiled by a person(s) and offered to the list. If enough interest is generated, then list members capable of producing CD-R and tape copies (known as "Master Holders") will contact the person with the material. A number of "masters" are made and sent to a number of "Master Holders". When the "Master Holders" are ready, they will announce it to the list and anyone interested in a copy would simply post a request to the list copies will go out to those interested. Hence, "a tree." Typically, anyone wanting a copy will need to send the appropriate number of blank media (video tapes, audio cassette tapes or CD-R) and a stamped, addressed bubble-lined shipping package. The "Master Holder" will make your copy and send it to you. That`s it. THE RULES: 1) A CD/Tape/Video (T/V/CD) Tree can only be initiated by a person(s) possessing enough Roxy related material to put (at least) a tape together. 2) NO ONE CAN VOLUNTEER ANOTHER`S MATERIAL. 3) In no way is a profit made by anyone initiating or taking part as a master holder. They will always be done for the cost of the media and shipping only. WHAT`S AVAILABLE: Past trees have included: Brian Ferry-Wolverhampton, England '95 with Robin Trower The Stockholm show of 01.27.76, 2CDs, Excellent Stereo '75 New York/London show, 1CD Excellent Stereo Various BBC broadcast '72-'74, 1CD Excellent Stereo '74 Boston show, 2CD Very good+ mono audience recording Editions Of Roxy- A compilation of 15 Roxy songs covered by other bands. All Styles Served Here - A compilation of rare material WHAT`S IN THE FUTURE: A Video collection. All Styles Served Here 2 - Another compilation of rare material - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #343 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest