From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #340 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, November 1 1999 Volume 04 : Number 340 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy songs on this tour??? [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Re: ATGB - UK Chart debut ["Richard Swift" ] [AVALON] Re: ATGB review ["Richard Swift" ] [AVALON] W H Smith Review [Glen Lehman ] Re: [AVALON] TEST [Heather Marie Buch ] Re: [AVALON] Velvet Underground [Heather Marie Buch ] [AVALON] More Styles Served Here [Chris Turner ] [AVALON] Cilla Black [Glen Lehman ] [AVALON] ATGB wishful thinking? ["tfagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Cilla Black ["Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy songs on this tour??? On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Richard Swift wrote: > It's interesting how this tour is being billed in the UK - "Classic Songs > from the 1930s" - that's the tour not the album. I would expect most of the > new album to feature as well as one or two additional tracks from the era > concerned but for very little from the Ferry / Roxy back catalogue - around > 6 classics have been referred to in the past and personally I doubt there'll > be any more - I'd like to hear a smattering of songs done accoustically but > really question how many of them lend themselves to this treatment. Six > done brilliantly would be better than 10 or 12 thrown in just because the > audience might expect them. First, did I miss something? How do folks 'know' what songs Mr. Ferry is going to throw into the setlist from his back catalog? (If I've missed a post I apologize--not all my mail is getting to me these days.) In the article I posted on Friday, there was this tantalizing piece about the setlist: Ferry's touring band will have 13 musicians, the size of the largest complement of players on "As Time Goes By," and will accompany the singer performing songs from the album as well as ones from Roxy Music and his solo career. "It's the biggest band I've taken out. It's going to be really fascinating for me, to see if it works," he chuckles. "So far I'm pleased with how the Roxy material sounds with this lineup." I'm assuming from this that there will be a good number of songs, however indifferently or brilliantly performed, from the back catalog. Second, I assume the tour is being explicitly billed in this way so that in case you haven't heard the album or read the press about it when you buy a ticket you know more or less what you are going to be in for. Because if you don't know, it could be a disappointment. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:49:23 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ordering from A&B Sound Online Help, folks. I was all set to ordered the remastered Roxy albums I want but I've got two choices on each remastered: either REMAST ORG or REMASTERED. Maybe someone has posted on this before in which case I missed it but, what is the difference? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:15:00 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ordering from A&B Sound Online Your guess is as good as mine! I had ordered most of the early catalog in Remastered form - but so far all I got was the first Roxy Music Album - in HDCD form. It does NOT include Virginia Plain (as my years older CD did). The remaining early albums through Siren are on order through Amazon.com I ordered Manifesto, F&B and Avalon through ABSound this morning - (REMASTER, not ORIG REMASTER) , so we'll both see what the difference is. Perhaps Original would be in a jewel box and REMASTER would be in the Mini-LP form ?? I have no idea ...   -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com TheWebGal Biz Site: http://www.thewebgal.com/ Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of ASchulberg@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 9:49 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Ordering from A&B Sound Online Help, folks. I was all set to ordered the remastered Roxy albums I want but I've got two choices on each remastered: either REMAST ORG or REMASTERED. Maybe someone has posted on this before in which case I missed it but, what is the difference? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:19:17 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy songs on this tour??? Colleen - I'm going on the number of songs - around 6 - that have been reported from several sources on this list over the last few weeks but really, who knows until the tour finally gets under way? As for what these songs are - like you, I haven't a clue. One thing is for sure - you will know first hand before I do! Regards, Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy songs on this tour??? > Ferry's touring band will have 13 musicians, the size of the largest > complement of players on "As Time Goes By," and will accompany the > singer performing songs from the album as well as ones from Roxy Music > and his solo career. "It's the biggest band I've taken out. It's going > to be really fascinating for me, to see if it works," he chuckles. "So > far I'm pleased with how the Roxy material sounds with this lineup." > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:38:10 -0500 From: jspellman Subject: [AVALON] Ferry "on the radio" Driving home last night, I heard, surprisingly, Ferry on the radio, WCRV in Boston played the VU cover "All Tomorrow's Parties". It sounded great. I don't care for Taxi too much, but when I heard this song on it's own, it sounded so much better. After the song they said, "we play the artists you don't hear on the other stations". No kidding. Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:37:50 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] Re: ATGB - UK Chart debut "As Time Goes By" has entered the official UK album chart at 16. This is obviously low compared to the debuts of Mamouna (11), Taxi (2), Bete Noire (9) and the number 1 debuts of the albums which went before these but frankly I'm just glad to see Bryan back on the charts! I doubt this is ever going to get very high in the charts unless the TV special and TV coverage over Christmas have a big impact (which of course they could), but if it can keep on the charts, even at fairly low positions, it will notch up considerable sales in this pre-Christmas period and easily surpass its two predecessors. Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:51:43 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] Re: ATGB TV advert Has anyone seen the TV ad yet? I know it's been on but know nothing about the detail. Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:56:28 -0000 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: [AVALON] Re: ATGB review There is a good review of the album at WH Smith's online music store. Go to : http://cds.whsmithonline.co.uk/frames.asp?pagedef=/hme/hmepge.asp& Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:11:17 +1030 From: Glen Lehman Subject: [AVALON] W H Smith Review I cut and pasted this from the reference given on the list (it is a nice review).....thanks...the BBC planned Broadcast is of interest and note. Bryan Ferry is back, and in some style. Not, though, a familiar style, as, for his latest album, As Time Goes By, Ferry steers away from rock and crosses over into classic 30's jazz. It might not seem an obvious choice for the ex-Roxy Music man, but, as it turns out, he slips into the role of gentleman singer with practiced ease. Old favourites, such as Falling In Love Again, The way You Look Tonight, and the title track are rendered with a distinctive modern edge, while losing none of their original feeling. This collection was enough to convince the BBC to commission a special live performance at Cafe du Paris, which can be seen in December, and the original more than lives up to the challenge of the setting. Long-time collaborater Rhett Davies sets the mood with production that conjures up images of smoky cafes and refined romance, in a time of luxury, lavishness and leisure. There is talented support from a band that would not feel out of place behind any of the great crooners. As if the music was not enough, the album's artwork is taken from a collection of Ferry's own drawings, which perfectly complement the album's sense of a glimpse at another era. As Time Goes By takes you from intimate romance, through wistful regret, to swinging celebration, but maintains, throughout, a warm glow of nostalgia that is the perfect antidote to those cold winter nights. Featured Album As Time Goes By Artist Ferry Bryan Price £10.00 Sterling Biblio COMPACT DISC Binding CD Published 22 October 1999 Record Label VIRGIN (EMI) Normally available for dispatch within 48 hours - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:49:10 -0500 (EST) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] TEST Hey Mark, Got your test. I've been wondering where you've been. Things really heated up around here last week, and you weren't around to offer your wry wisdom and *asterisks.* Heather On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, mark shanahan wrote: > this is a test to the list to see if it will actually go through (haven't > been able to post in about four days ...). could someone be kind enough to > e-mail me directly if this does come through, as i'm on the digest version > of things here? thanks > > peaces/ms > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > http://home.uchicago.edu/~asbuch/ Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Velvet Underground The banana album is one of their greatest. Try White Light White Heat, or the album called VU (released in the 80's, I believe). They're both pretty awesome. I like "Ocean," which is probably another heroin song. Heather On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Alexander Papazoglu wrote: > All that writing about VU (never heard them before) got me curious so I went > online to search for some songs with them and found Heroin. I must say I think > it's quite good. Pretty f...d up lyrics though, thats what makes it good I > guess. > > ...and I feel like I'm a man when I put a spike into my vein... > > Alex > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > http://home.uchicago.edu/~asbuch/ Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:57:48 -0500 (EST) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] George Michael takes a cue from Bryan Ferry On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Noam Bronstein wrote: > >Richard Swift wrote: > >...pleasing version of The Police's "Roxanne" - a great song but not one > >I would personally single out as 'a song of the century', if that is what the > album >proves to be about. Richard > > Hmmm.. my sister and I were talking about that song last night... catchier > than anything from XTC or The Clash, definitely more palatable than 'God Save > The Queen'. Maybe not a song of the century, but I think (from a North Oh, I would have to disagree with the comparison to XTC. My first time hearing "Senses Working Overtime," was unforgetable. That eerie voice. The slightly ambiguous, folkloric lyrics. Also combined with the fact that I heard it first when I saw the video, which I thought was wonderful with it's background paleolithic drawings. It all just seemed to create a slightly disturbing, yet very pop image that stuck with me. The Police never did anything with such strength (for me that is). Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:00:13 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Roxy songs on this tour??? On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Richard Swift wrote: > Colleen - > > I'm going on the number of songs - around 6 - that have been reported from > several sources on this list over the last few weeks but really, who knows > until the tour finally gets under way? As for what these songs are - like > you, I haven't a clue. One thing is for sure - you will know first hand > before I do! Hi Richard (and all), Thanks for the clarification, and yes, it will be soon--only 3 more days until the North American leg kicks off here in Washington. By the way, did anyone on the list attend the show Ticketmaster listed as in Geneva on October 9th? Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:17:27 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Tim Kendrick wrote: > Yes, voices change all the time, I know this perfectly > well. And you're right that he's been closely miked before, > and the results were different. But that doesn't mean the > performances he gives on ATGB are the only performances > he's capable of giving. > > As for his voice lasting : He has the advantage of never having > had much of a voice anyway. The quality has changed somewhat, > but it's not actually WORSE than the voice on FOR YOUR > PLEASURE. I said earlier that I thought that I might like the album more if I liked his singing on it. And I think that the points that have been raised that he is deliberately singing in this way are right on the money. The thing I have always liked about Ferry is that he has always played against the grain. He can't really sing, yet he's a singer. He looks completely uncomfortable on stage, yet he has a magnetic presence for all of his awkwardness. (I was lucky enough, due the swing of the _Mamouna_ tour through the Northeast during Thanksgiving [and its attendant visit to see the family], to be able to see him in both Boston and Washington. The morning of the Boston show I fired up the VCR to watch his performance the previous evening on David Letterman. My dad--who, when I was a kid, used to take my carefully written wishlist of semi-obscure records I'd read about on his lunch [half] hour to the record store near his factory a few towns down in the river valley since they seemed to have the things I couldn't find closer to home--walked in to see what I was watching [our usual fare being either CNN or The Weather Channel, naturally]. He looked at me, and at the screen, and then at me. "Is this guy really a singer?" "Yes." "This isn't the person you're going to see tonight?" "Yes." "He can't sing or dance. How long has his career lasted?" "Twenty years." "Well, he must be doing something right." [Then my mother walked in. "Is his hair always in his eyes? That's annoying."] But I digress.) But the sheer perversity of his singing and dancing has always been one of my favorite things about him. You don't have to be a good singer to be an interesting singer, writer, and/or performer. Certainly Chris Difford and Neil Young, to name two on opposite ends of the spectrum, have been able to forge successful careers for themselves even though they can't sing (for that matter, but with different tactics, so have Michael Bolton and Celine Dion). But now that Ferry has tackled songs which have require him to actually sing, well, I'm underwhelmed, as y'all know (although I think I might be warming to "Where or When). I guess I just miss the yelping. Again this is not to say that I'm not looking forward to the show on Wednesday, because I definitely am. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:40:34 +0000 From: Chris Turner Subject: [AVALON] More Styles Served Here Hello All, More Styles Served Here! Just a note to keep you informed of the progress of ASSH2. A tape will be winging it's way to our man Han at the mixing desk this week and the result should be a CD containing the following: Ferry's NetAid appearance. The two ATGB Jools Holland appearance tracks The two Danny Baker Show tracks from 1994 Six live tracks from BF's Hollywood gig in Dec '94 (that's with Trower, Arnie!) AND (a little treat for the er, more mature members of this group) Bryan's July 1974 appearance on 'Twigs' - Twiggy's BBC-TV Show which includes - Smoke gets in your eyes - his first known live solo recording (unless someone knows better) and What A Wonderful World - A duet with Twiggy - as chronicled in the Rex Balfour book The Bryan Ferry Story - p65 (for the uninitiated, Ferry sings with Twiggy whilst the two of them sit at school desks, in full school uniform (!) - I promise you honestly, you couldn't make it up, could you? I should warn you that Twiggy's singing talent is as slender as her frame... This is Ferry's only known duet, again unless you know better!) Should be enough to be going on with..... Chris (your man in the archives) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:24:05 +1030 From: Glen Lehman Subject: [AVALON] Cilla Black Chris, Did not Ferry do two songs (These Foolish Things and Its My Party) on the Cilla Black show many years ago (ie. when she was allegedly singing Bryan's voice wallowed out)....nurse Kim from this list has my video of this! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:47:38 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: [AVALON] ATGB wishful thinking? speaking of marketing ATGB, I was at a Borders Books (US) and saw many copies in the New Releases racks under the heading "Instant Best Seller." - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 08:37:12 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cilla Black To my knowlwdge these were both mimed performances .. - ---------- >From: Glen Lehman >To: "'avalon3'" >Subject: [AVALON] Cilla Black >Date: Mon, Nov 1, 1999, 12:54 am > > Chris, > Did not Ferry do two songs (These Foolish Things and Its My Party) on the Cilla > Black show many years ago (ie. when she was allegedly singing Bryan's voice > wallowed out)....nurse Kim from this list has my video of this! > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #340 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest