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avalon-digest        Thursday, October 28 1999        Volume 04 : Number 336



                               Today's Subjects:
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  [AVALON] Re: Signed CDs     ["Andy Cooper" <cooper_systems@compuserve.com>]
  RE: [AVALON]  London Tickets     [Jocelyn Fiske <Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com>]
  RE: [AVALON] Signed CDs          [Jocelyn Fiske <Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com>]
  Re: [AVALON] I'm In the Mood for Love  [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson]
  RE: [AVALON] Signed CDs                             [andrew.langley@bt.com]
  Re: [AVALON] RE : Autographs - and Memorabilia !  [Heather Marie Propes <a]
  [AVALON] European tour          [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] as time goes by         ["Tim Kendrick" <tim63@earthlink.net>]
  Re: [AVALON] as time goes by    [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] as time goes by             [Neil Ashar <neilashar@yahoo.com>]
  Re: [AVALON] as time goes by         ["Tim Kendrick" <tim63@earthlink.net>]
  Re: [AVALON] as time goes by    [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] RE : Autographs - and Memorabilia !           [JFROXY@aol.com]
  [AVALON] Updated                [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] Updated            [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] Links  ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <snijders.geest@gir]
  [AVALON] 11/2 DC show has been cancelled  [Colleen Matan <matanc@gusun.geo]
  Re: [AVALON] 11/2 DC show has been cancelled  [Heather James <hjames@thewe]
  Re: [AVALON] Updated  ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <snijders.geest@g]
  Re: [AVALON] Signed CDs  ["Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.]
  Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets   ["Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.free]
  Re: [AVALON] Ferrys Voice  ["Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.freeserv]
  Re: [AVALON] Links              [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  Fw: [AVALON]  London Tickets   [=?iso-8859-1?B?yAo=?= <colin@cdevonport.fr]
  Re: [AVALON] Ferrys Voice       [Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>]
  [AVALON] Early Thoughts         ["gareth mc ginley" <ginley71@hotmail.com>]
  Re: [AVALON] Links  ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <snijders.geest@gir]
  Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets   ["Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.free]
  Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets                [Bahi Para <bahi@macnet.co.uk>]
  Re: [AVALON] as time goes by          [shinoballo@webtv.net (Jeff Pavlock)]

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:52:05 +0100
From: "Andy Cooper" <cooper_systems@compuserve.com>
Subject: [AVALON] Re: Signed CDs

I have a signed copy of the script for the TV programme I was working on
when I met Bryan at the BBC in about 85 - kept squashed flat in a special
place!!!  (sad huh?)  It is alongside a signed script from Sting's
appearance on a kids TV programme I also worked on around the same time.


<eracer wrote:>

from Bahi:
>The Virgin Megastore <>has some signed Ferry CDs for sale,

How many on the list have an autograph?
::my only one  - Boys and Girls vinyl, in silver marker (of unknown origin -
a gift from a friend)







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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:17:09 +0100
From: Jocelyn Fiske <Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com>
Subject: RE: [AVALON]  London Tickets 

Hello neighbour, we've got D15 to 20.

> ----------
> From: 	Robert Whiteford[SMTP:robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk]
> Reply To: 	avalon@smoe.org
> Sent: 	27 October 1999 18:56
> To: 	avalon@smoe.org
> Subject: 	Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets 
> 
> I've just got my 2 tickets through - seats D22 & 23 . I'd like to say
> "Hello" to the others on the list going to RFH.
> 
> Rob
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin Stockman <martinstockman@btinternet.com>
> To: <avalon@smoe.org>
> Sent: 27 October 1999 08:53
> Subject: FW: [AVALON] London Tickets
> 
> 
> > Revised breakdown of my ticket allocation for RFH Dec 14
> >
> > Andrew Langley (2)
> > Chris Turner
> > Pete Dewey (2)
> > Richard Swift
> > Robert Fedder 2
> >
> > Bahi, I think I've got two more, a bit further back, do you want them ?
> >
> > We're gonna be 20 + for this gig !
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
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> > MS
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:10:58 +0100
From: Jocelyn Fiske <Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com>
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Signed CDs

I have a Stranded poster signed by the whole band at the Gosforth Park Hotel
after the gigs in Newcastle (Andy offered to sign in blood when I couldn't
find a pen). We got invited into the party and spent the rest of the evening
in 7th heaven. Bryan was wearing a beige calf skin jacket, white open neck
shirt and spotty scarf (the same one he was wearing on Later with Jools)
beige flannels, brown brogues and YES - white socks!!
I have my Roxy Music album signed by Bryan and Andy.
My For Your Pleasure signed by Bryan and Brian
Theses Foolish Things signed by Bryan
And loads of photos all signed by Bryan.
No I'm not willing to swap any of them, they all have stories attached and
I'm an old sentimental fool.
I used to keep Roxy Music scrap books right from the very beginning and hand
paint the album covers on the front of each book. Viva! was a real bastard
to reproduce.
But then I went to Art college and had to do some real work.

My real pride and joy is the huge For Your Pleasure badge (pin) I won in a
Roxy Music Fan Club competition. You may have seen photos of Bryan wearing
the same one on his Grey jacket of the same period.
Thanks for the opportunity to stroll down memory lane.

Jocelyn


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> Subject: 	Re: [AVALON] Signed CDs
> 
> -from Bahi:
> >The Virgin Megastore <>has some signed Ferry CDs for sale,
> 
> 
> How many on the list have an autograph?
> ::my only one  - Boys and Girls vinyl, in silver marker (of unknown origin
> -
> a gift from a friend)
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:20:16 +0100
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm In the Mood for Love

>Does anyone else think the track "I'm In the Mood for Love" is from a
>different "project," other than <As Time Goes By>??
>
>--TriTri

A bunch of us, certainly me.

/Kicki G

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:12:50 +0100
From: andrew.langley@bt.com
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Signed CDs

Bahi,

Thanks, BRILLIANT, I just zoomed into town and got one. Now I have to listen
to it !!

Regards
Andy Langley


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Bahi Para [SMTP:bahi@macnet.co.uk]
> Sent:	Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:15 AM
> To:	avalon@smoe.org
> Subject:	[AVALON] Signed CDs
> 
> The Virgin Megastore on the corner of Oxford Street and Tottenham Court
> Road has some signed Ferry CDs for sale, in Digipak format. 'I've think
> I've got about half a dozen left," said the guy I spoke to.
> 
> The Digipaks are made in Holland and not Swindon. Bryan's signature is an
> almost unrecognisable scrawl on the front, in black marker. Cost: 15 UKP -
> about $24 US. If you want one but can't visit, try +44 (0)171 631 1234
> with
> plastic within reach. Speaking of which, there was no sign of a vinyl
> copy.
> 
> B
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:42:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Heather Marie Propes <asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE : Autographs - and Memorabilia !

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Johnny Reece wrote:

> letters - 'GOD'. (with small letters underneath with the inscription :
> 'notes could not spell out the score').

Did you make that card, or an employee? I assume you did. At Looney Tunes
Records in Boston, the Ferry card says "Bryan 'Just Got Back From Vegas'
Ferry."

> Off - topic slightly - but I have got Marc Bolans Tambourine, which he threw
> off the stage at Glasgow Apollo after tearing the 'skin' of it on his guitar
> (Jan 74, if memory serves) and has the printed inscription 'Truck Off' in
> large letters in the middle, with 'Marc Bolan & T. Rex on Tour as Zinc Alloy
> and the Hidden Riders of Tomorrow' around the rim.  Pure fluke, this, as so
> many people raised their hands up to attempt to catch it - it bounced over
> many - and landed straight in my lap.  How I got out of there alive with it
> I'll never know.  A battered piece of memorabilia, but a very prized
> possession nonetheless, as Boley was a big hero of mine, who only 'moved

This is very cool. Nice posting, and thanks for the stories.

Heather (on a Neil Young kick lately)

"Went to the city and I lost my band
I saw the needle take another man
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:11:57 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: [AVALON] European tour

This is what the Swedish newspaper Expressen has to say about Ferry today:

"Bryan Ferry will hopefully play in Sweden in the beginning of next year.
The reclusive Roxy Music-star har decided to do a tour following the release
of As Time Goes By, a CD where he sings standards from the thirties and
forties.
In November, Ferry is touring in the US, in December he'll do England and
after
new years it's time for Europe.
Any Swedish dates has yet to be settled".

Hooray!

/Kicki G

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:20:38 -0400
From: "Tim Kendrick" <tim63@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by

I agree with Alexander. There is no question that these
performances - like them or not, and I do - aren't some sort
of accident. Listen to how closely miked Ferry is. That's a choice,
and it allows for that whispery manner.

Tim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Papazoglu <alexander.papazoglu@swipnet.se>
To: avalon@smoe.org <avalon@smoe.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AVALON] The good & the
>
>I just listened to I'll Die for You and John Harding, songs wich Bryan
perform
>earlier this year. And even if the recording is not the best I must say he
>sounds the same as he ever did. Maybe those off you who attended the show
know
>better, but I realy think that the way he sings the songs on Atgb is the
way he
>wanted to sing them.
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:41:05 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by

I don't agree with any of you two.
I know Ferry is closely miked, but he's been that serveral times before
with different result: Sunset and Bitter-Sweet for instance.
A person's voice isn't a static thing that can avoid change.
Ferry is now 54 years old, and that is beginning to show in his voice -
that is not an opinion but a fact.
Can anyone seriously believe that the man would sound exactly the same now
as when he was 28-30??
Whether his voice is better or worse than before can of course be a matter
of opinion. I think he's slipping - listen to his top notes! Some songs on
ATGB are definetely in the wrong key for Ferry.
Ferry himself has said that he doesn't think his voice will last.

Kicki G - first soprano


>I agree with Alexander. There is no question that these
>performances - like them or not, and I do - aren't some sort
>of accident. Listen to how closely miked Ferry is. That's a choice,
>and it allows for that whispery manner.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Papazoglu <alexander.papazoglu@swipnet.se>
>To: avalon@smoe.org <avalon@smoe.org>
>Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [AVALON] The good & the
>>
>>I just listened to I'll Die for You and John Harding, songs wich Bryan
>perform
>>earlier this year. And even if the recording is not the best I must say he
>>sounds the same as he ever did. Maybe those off you who attended the show
>know
>>better, but I realy think that the way he sings the songs on Atgb is the
>way he
>>wanted to sing them.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Ashar <neilashar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by

If he is playing Sweden should they not call him Bryan Sverige?
Neil

- --- Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se> wrote:
> I don't agree with any of you two.
> I know Ferry is closely miked, but he's been that serveral times
> before
> with different result: Sunset and Bitter-Sweet for instance.
> A person's voice isn't a static thing that can avoid change.
> Ferry is now 54 years old, and that is beginning to show in his voice
> -
> that is not an opinion but a fact.
> Can anyone seriously believe that the man would sound exactly the
> same now
> as when he was 28-30??
> Whether his voice is better or worse than before can of course be a
> matter
> of opinion. I think he's slipping - listen to his top notes! Some
> songs on
> ATGB are definetely in the wrong key for Ferry.
> Ferry himself has said that he doesn't think his voice will last.
> 
> Kicki G - first soprano
> 
> 
> >I agree with Alexander. There is no question that these
> >performances - like them or not, and I do - aren't some sort
> >of accident. Listen to how closely miked Ferry is. That's a choice,
> >and it allows for that whispery manner.
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Alexander Papazoglu <alexander.papazoglu@swipnet.se>
> >To: avalon@smoe.org <avalon@smoe.org>
> >Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:08 PM
> >Subject: Re: [AVALON] The good & the
> >>
> >>I just listened to I'll Die for You and John Harding, songs wich
> Bryan
> >perform
> >>earlier this year. And even if the recording is not the best I must
> say he
> >>sounds the same as he ever did. Maybe those off you who attended
> the show
> >know
> >>better, but I realy think that the way he sings the songs on Atgb
> is the
> >way he
> >>wanted to sing them.
> 
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> http://www.op.se
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:09:01 -0400
From: "Tim Kendrick" <tim63@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by

Yes, voices change all the time, I know this perfectly
well. And you're right that he's been closely miked before,
and the results were different. But that doesn't mean the
performances he gives on ATGB are the only performances
he's capable of giving.

As for his voice lasting :  He has the advantage of never having
had much of a voice anyway. The quality has changed somewhat,
but it's not actually WORSE than the voice on FOR YOUR
 PLEASURE.

You sing yourself, Kicki, and you know that the room for decline
in his voice isn't like that of (say) Pavarotti or Ella Fitzgerald. ( I
like Ella's seventies recordings on the Pablo label more than her
fifties work, actually, but that's another discussion.)

Also, missing notes is not new for Ferry - he does it all the time
in live performances. This is the nearest he's ever done to a 'live'
studio recording, and his voice is more prominent here than
it's been in twenty or more years,
 so of course it shows up his weaknesses more markedly.
I like the fact that he doesn't seem to have done too much
tidying up after the four days of recording.

It's also worth adding that these songs are more difficult to
sing than anything he's tried before. THESE FOOLISH THINGS
is heavily simplified in his version, and so is YOU GO TO MY HEAD,
and SMOKE GETS IN YOUR EYES for that matter. I don't think
Ferry in the Seventies would have been capable of making this
new album . We all admire the way he reconstructs songs,
but the truth is that he can hide his limitations through such
reconstructions. I don't think he could have got through his early
standards performances WITHOUT remaking the songs. Now
he has found a way, albeit a  quirky and  mannered way, of
pursuing the song-writers' original intentions.

Tim

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
To: avalon@smoe.org <avalon@smoe.org>
Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by


>I don't agree with any of you two.
>I know Ferry is closely miked, but he's been that serveral times before
>with different result: Sunset and Bitter-Sweet for instance.
>A person's voice isn't a static thing that can avoid change.
>Ferry is now 54 years old, and that is beginning to show in his voice -
>that is not an opinion but a fact.
>Can anyone seriously believe that the man would sound exactly the same now
>as when he was 28-30??
>Whether his voice is better or worse than before can of course be a matter
>of opinion. I think he's slipping - listen to his top notes! Some songs on
>ATGB are definetely in the wrong key for Ferry.
>Ferry himself has said that he doesn't think his voice will last.
>
>Kicki G - first soprano
>
>
>>I agree with Alexander. There is no question that these
>>performances - like them or not, and I do - aren't some sort
>>of accident. Listen to how closely miked Ferry is. That's a choice,
>>and it allows for that whispery manner.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Alexander Papazoglu <alexander.papazoglu@swipnet.se>
>>To: avalon@smoe.org <avalon@smoe.org>
>>Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: [AVALON] The good & the
>>>
>>>I just listened to I'll Die for You and John Harding, songs wich Bryan
>>perform
>>>earlier this year. And even if the recording is not the best I must say
he
>>>sounds the same as he ever did. Maybe those off you who attended the show
>>know
>>>better, but I realy think that the way he sings the songs on Atgb is the
>>way he
>>>wanted to sing them.
>
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>http://www.op.se
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:47:29 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by

>Yes, voices change all the time, I know this perfectly
>well. And you're right that he's been closely miked before,
>and the results were different. But that doesn't mean the
>performances he gives on ATGB are the only performances
>he's capable of giving.

No, let's hope not! :-)
I agree with what you say, what I didn't agree with was the view that has
been expressed on this list that Ferry is sounding just as he always have,
which simply isn't true.

Kicki G

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:47:51 EDT
From: JFROXY@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE : Autographs - and Memorabilia !

In a message dated 28/10/99 05:03:18 GMT Daylight Time, 
johnny.reece@virgin.net writes:

<< Did anyone else get the Roxy FYP large Mirror that was doing the rounds
 around 75/76 ?  I only know of 2 other people that have one, though many
 were available particularly at many record shops in Glasgow around that
 time, so I guess some Scots on this list could well have it too - I'd love
 to know... >>

I bought one of these wonderful mirrors out of Blogg's record shop in 
Glasgow, circa September 1978, it cost me £20. (funnily enough, the guy at 
the bottom of my road also has one, two in the one street, eh)! It has taken 
pride of place on my bedroom wall ever since then. About 6 weeks ago I was 
sitting watching a video when I heard this noise coming from behind me, to my 
horror the mirror went crashing to the floor, almost in slow motion. I just 
stared at it expecting it to smash into a thousand pieces, but no, for some 
unknown reason it stayed in one piece (divine intervention, always my 
intention............... etc.etc.) and luckily there is only a circular crack 
at the bottom left hand side. I would have been, eh, shattered if It had 
smashed. I saw one being sold in Q magazine a few years back, and the guy was 
wanting £100 for it.

<You have reminded me - I really must look out my old 'cuttings', etc. from 
way
back — still have loads in a couple of boxes, you know the sort of thing,
NME/MM/DISC paper cuttings etc,.

I also have loads of these, mostly in great condition, stored away Johnny, if 
you want any scanned give me a shout. Yeah, I thought the Sadistic Mika Band 
were great, I've got the picture from the Scottish Daily Record with BF and 
Mika, where the man is wearing the eye patch, cool.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:56:01 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: [AVALON] Updated

Andy Cooper says he is shy, but sent his profile and picture all the same.
Attaboy!
I hope the rest of you will follow in his footsteps.
Fréderic D's profile is also uploaded now.
But about the women on the list?!? Colleen!!!

http://home.op.se/opse3503/

/Kicki G

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:59:33 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Updated

>But about the women on the list?!? Colleen!!!

But WHAT about the women on the list, I meant...
>
>http://home.op.se/opse3503/

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:04:39 +0200
From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <snijders.geest@gironet.nl>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Links

Hi Kicki.

First thanks for all your excelent work!

Here are two other links (and your melancholly shimmering link isn't
working)


http://www.om.ru/ferry/engl/

http://imusic.com/cgi-bin/search/search.cgi?search=bryan+ferry


Regards Han
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:56:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Colleen Matan <matanc@gusun.georgetown.edu>
Subject: [AVALON] 11/2 DC show has been cancelled

I just had a message from Ticketmaster telling me that the Ferry show for
11/2 at the 9:30 Club has been cancelled.

Tickets for that show will be honored on 11/3.  The woman I spoke with at
Ticketmaster Customer Service said that they are calling all of the
ticketholders.

Colleen








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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:10:01 -0400
From: Heather James <hjames@thewebgal.com>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] 11/2 DC show has been cancelled

The Nov 2nd show is cancelled - I wonder what THAT means?
Does it mean they didn't sell enough tickets for two nights so they're
just merging the shows ... or ...?

	Perspiring mimes wanna nose ...


       -= )-(eather =-
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>
>
Colleen Matan wrote:
> 
> I just had a message from Ticketmaster telling me that the Ferry show for
> 11/2 at the 9:30 Club has been cancelled.
> 
> Tickets for that show will be honored on 11/3.  The woman I spoke with at
> Ticketmaster Customer Service said that they are calling all of the
> ticketholders.
> 
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:13:25 +0200
From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <snijders.geest@gironet.nl>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Updated

Hi Kicki,

Almost forgot this one, It's Gene's page, nice!

http://www.pipeline.com/~decophile/roxy.html

I can find that side with an excellent discography of Roxy. bryan and the
other members. My bookmark find another page.

regards Han





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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:44:49 +0100
From: "Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Signed CDs

Virgin probably only asked him to sign six. If they could find six for him
to sign that is. Since Bluewater only had the five on Monday I'm feeling a
bit shortchanged that my copy wasn't signed. Or even handmade !

Rob
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Sent: 28 October 1999 00:15
Subject: [AVALON] Signed CDs


> The Virgin Megastore on the corner of Oxford Street and Tottenham Court
> Road has some signed Ferry CDs for sale, in Digipak format. 'I've think
> I've got about half a dozen left," said the guy I spoke to.
>
> The Digipaks are made in Holland and not Swindon. Bryan's signature is an
> almost unrecognisable scrawl on the front, in black marker. Cost: 15 UKP -
> about $24 US. If you want one but can't visit, try +44 (0)171 631 1234
with
> plastic within reach. Speaking of which, there was no sign of a vinyl
copy.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:14:07 +0100
From: "Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets 

Excellent - Sue & I will make a point of introdcucing ourselves. Do you
think you're allowed to TALK in the RFH ? Do I have to wear a suit & tie to
get in ?! See you there.
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To: <avalon@smoe.org>
Sent: 28 October 1999 10:17
Subject: RE: [AVALON] London Tickets


> Hello neighbour, we've got D15 to 20.
> >
> > I've just got my 2 tickets through - seats D22 & 23 . I'd like to say
> > "Hello" to the others on the list going to RFH.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > >
> > > Andrew Langley (2)
> > > Chris Turner
> > > Pete Dewey (2)
> > > Richard Swift
> > > Robert Fedder 2
> > >
> > > Bahi, I think I've got two more, a bit further back, do you want them
?
> > >
> > > We're gonna be 20 + for this gig !
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:36:43 +0100
From: "Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferrys Voice

Kicki ,

I think I know where you're coming from but are you sure about this not
hitting top notes business ? He doesn't go for them and miss them he just
doesn't go for them on ATGB. But if he's lost it it must have been recently
because that Princess Diana tribute , which was fairly recent, was a
tremendous vocal. Clear, crisp and in tune. With some real high notes sung
beautifully. Each to their own opinion certainly but I have a bit surprised
by the critcism of Bryans voice from several quarters on this list.  His
Netaid performance was terrific I thought and the idea that he has usually
gone on TV / stage and sang perfectly is an odd one. In fact I have the Live
Aid tapes from 1985 and I think he's more rounded now. The Jools Holland
appearence was another where his voice sounded really accurate. I mean,
listen to early Roxy Music live stuff and tell me he sang in tune ! So
whilst I don't for one minute expect him to sound the same at 54 as 30 that
doesn't necessarily mean he did ATGB vocals in a laid back fashion because
he wasn't capable of doing anything else. I'm not so sure he's losing it at
all.

Rob.



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To: <avalon@smoe.org>
Sent: 28 October 1999 14:41
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by


I don't agree with any of you two.
I know Ferry is closely miked, but he's been that serveral times before
with different result: Sunset and Bitter-Sweet for instance.
A person's voice isn't a static thing that can avoid change.
Ferry is now 54 years old, and that is beginning to show in his voice -
that is not an opinion but a fact.
Can anyone seriously believe that the man would sound exactly the same now
as when he was 28-30??
Whether his voice is better or worse than before can of course be a matter
of opinion. I think he's slipping - listen to his top notes! Some songs on
ATGB are definetely in the wrong key for Ferry.
Ferry himself has said that he doesn't think his voice will last.

Kicki G - first soprano


>I agree with Alexander. There is no question that these
>performances - like them or not, and I do - aren't some sort
>of accident. Listen to how closely miked Ferry is. That's a choice,
>and it allows for that whispery manner.
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Papazoglu <alexander.papazoglu@swipnet.se>
>To: avalon@smoe.org <avalon@smoe.org>
>Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 5:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [AVALON] The good & the
>>
>>I just listened to I'll Die for You and John Harding, songs wich Bryan
>perform
>>earlier this year. And even if the recording is not the best I must say he
>>sounds the same as he ever did. Maybe those off you who attended the show
>know
>>better, but I realy think that the way he sings the songs on Atgb is the
>way he
>>wanted to sing them.

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:23:03 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Links

>Hi Kicki.
>
>First thanks for all your excelent work!
>
>Here are two other links (and your melancholly shimmering link isn't
>working)

Hi Han,

the melancholly shimmering link works for me, but it leads to a blank page,
I'm afraid.

>I can find that side with an excellent discography of Roxy. bryan and the
>other members. My bookmark find another page.

The web is very slow tonight, I think that's what screwing you're browser up.
The links are to Pasi's and Bryan Chow's sites.

Kicki

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:26:23 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?B?yAo=?= <colin@cdevonport.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Fw: [AVALON]  London Tickets 

Jocelyn

Are you sure you have D20? I have D20 and D21.The ticket is sitting here in
front of me!



> Hello neighbour, we've got D15 to 20.
>
> > ----------
> > From: Robert Whiteford[SMTP:robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk]
> > Reply To: avalon@smoe.org
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> > To: avalon@smoe.org
> > Subject: Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets
> >
> > I've just got my 2 tickets through - seats D22 & 23 . I'd like to say
> > "Hello" to the others on the list going to RFH.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Martin Stockman <martinstockman@btinternet.com>
> > To: <avalon@smoe.org>
> > Sent: 27 October 1999 08:53
> > Subject: FW: [AVALON] London Tickets
> >
> >
> > > Revised breakdown of my ticket allocation for RFH Dec 14
> > >
> > > Andrew Langley (2)
> > > Chris Turner
> > > Pete Dewey (2)
> > > Richard Swift
> > > Robert Fedder 2
> > >
> > > Bahi, I think I've got two more, a bit further back, do you want them
?
> > >
> > > We're gonna be 20 + for this gig !
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > MS
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:33:15 +0200
From: Kicki Gustafsson <kicki.gustafsson@op.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferrys Voice

>Kicki ,
>
>I think I know where you're coming from but are you sure about this not
>hitting top notes business ?[huge snip] I'm not so sure he's losing it at
>all.
>
>Rob.

If Bryan's voice sounds OK to you, than that's fine with me.
I think he's slipping, and if you don't, well all the better for you.

/Kicki G

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:41:30 PDT
From: "gareth mc ginley" <ginley71@hotmail.com>
Subject: [AVALON] Early Thoughts

Firstly, to say that my opinions on the new album will probably change 
completely over time and second to apologise for being so ignorent of this 
period in musical history.  However, for this reason I hate, hate , hate to 
say it but ATGB, for me, is the dullest album BF has ever released.  Not 
because it's a poor effort (it's a very, very competent effort) but because 
it clings to one period in time.  At least on other covers albums there was 
something for everybody.  How could you possibly put These Foolish Things 
and Sympathy For The Devil on the same album??  But that's the thing, it 
really worked.  The variety was not only in the songs themselves but in the 
voice and the instrumentation also.  Ferry's voice is in good form on ATGB 
and the playing going on around him is top notch.  But the album could 
easily be condensed down to 4 songs and you'd still get the same message.  
He could have put out an EP (ala Lets Stick Together)with Easy Living, I'm 
in the Mood.., Where or When and Sweet and Lovely and people would have been 
on their knees pleading for more.  As it is the album outstays its welcome 
and is very hard to stick with for a full listen.  I have no doubt that some 
people will love it (rightly so) and this piece will probably fit nicely 
into the BF discography when everything is done and dusted, but it's just 
not for me.  So, so sorry.

Gareth

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:51:21 +0200
From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" <snijders.geest@gironet.nl>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Links

Kicki wrote:
the melancholly shimmering link works for me, but it leads to a blank page,
I'm afraid.

Can't imagine that some one needs a link for a blank page.


>I can find that side with an excellent discography of Roxy. bryan and the
>other members. My bookmark find another page.

The web is very slow tonight, I think that's what screwing you're browser
up.
The links are to Pasi's and Bryan Chow's sites.

What I wanted to say was that there was a website with a discography that
I've bookmarked in the past but now it brings me to another page.
Megafunkiness... or something like that. Just plain text, but very accurate
and much information about bootlegs.
www.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de/homepages/j.delmere/roxy/roxy1.htm is my
bookmark. Anyone recognise this?

Han





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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:47:53 +0100
From: "Robert Whiteford" <robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets 

Mine say "Stalls" - has someone got balcony (and were they all 40 big ones?
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Sent: 28 October 1999 21:26
Subject: Fw: [AVALON] London Tickets


> Jocelyn
>
> Are you sure you have D20? I have D20 and D21.The ticket is sitting here
in
> front of me!
>
>
>
> > Hello neighbour, we've got D15 to 20.
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Robert Whiteford[SMTP:robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk]
> > > Reply To: avalon@smoe.org
> > > Sent: 27 October 1999 18:56
> > > To: avalon@smoe.org
> > > Subject: Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets
> > >
> > > I've just got my 2 tickets through - seats D22 & 23 . I'd like to say
> > > "Hello" to the others on the list going to RFH.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Martin Stockman <martinstockman@btinternet.com>
> > > To: <avalon@smoe.org>
> > > Sent: 27 October 1999 08:53
> > > Subject: FW: [AVALON] London Tickets
> > >
> > >
> > > > Revised breakdown of my ticket allocation for RFH Dec 14
> > > >
> > > > Andrew Langley (2)
> > > > Chris Turner
> > > > Pete Dewey (2)
> > > > Richard Swift
> > > > Robert Fedder 2
> > > >
> > > > Bahi, I think I've got two more, a bit further back, do you want
them
> ?
> > > >
> > > > We're gonna be 20 + for this gig !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > MS
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:45:35 +0100
From: Bahi Para <bahi@macnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [AVALON]  London Tickets

>Do you think you're allowed to TALK in the RFH ? Do I have to wear a suit
>& tie to
>get in?

For the Meltdown gig, things were very relaxed. The Royal Festival Hall,
with its arty little bookshop, open ground floor exhibitions and very
relaxed bar area, is a gathering place for would-be Bohemians of all sorts,
so don't worry too much about dress code. Our man's confidence seems none
too high these days, so don't talk too loudly through the quiet bits. And
no chanting "Eno".

B






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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:46:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: shinoballo@webtv.net (Jeff Pavlock)
Subject: Re: [AVALON] as time goes by

Well upon further review.....I kind of like it.   3 out of 5 I guess....
If he would have done the whole thing like I'm In The Mood For Love
maybe more of the list would like it.   I am having a few black and tans
to help me get in the smoky nightclub situation....anyone else?





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