From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #322 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, October 22 1999 Volume 04 : Number 322 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] REMASTERED AVALON [S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk] RE: [AVALON] Is It Just Me ...? ["Garratt, Chris" ] Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does JFROXY Post About 1,000, 000TimesA Day? ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] yet another opinion ["eRacerX" ] Re: [AVALON] REMASTERED AVALON [Jeff Kay ] Re: [AVALON] REMASTERED AVALON [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] ATGB/Career move [Heather Marie Propes ] Re: [AVALON] yet another opinion [Gal410@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] yet another opinion [Gal410@aol.com] [AVALON] Lighten Up Please [jspellman ] Re: [AVALON] Now here's a Bright Idea. ["Amy Bettisworth" ] [AVALON] ATGB - Ugh!!!! ["Franklin R. Smith" ] Re: [AVALON] Now here's a Bright Idea. [Neil Ashar ] Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please [jspellman ] Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please [jspellman ] Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] time goes by ["Robert Whiteford" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Is It Just Me ...? > Perhaps someone could provide a list of all the box office telephone > numbers > for the British leg of the tour. > > I'll be much obliged to anyone who can help on this matter, > > Gareth. > > Manchester Apollo 0161 242 2560 Just got 2 tickets ... 4th row centre ... £25.00 each. ____________________________________ IMPORTANT - this e-mail and the information that it contains may be confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Access by the intended recipient only is authorised. 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Newcastle tickets are a more sedate £25 and £22.50 > ---------- > From: Garratt, Chris[SMTP:Chris.Garratt@hammondsuddards.co.uk] > Reply To: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: 22 October 1999 10:51 > To: 'avalon@smoe.org' > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Is It Just Me ...? > > > > Perhaps someone could provide a list of all the box office telephone > > numbers > > for the British leg of the tour. > > > > I'll be much obliged to anyone who can help on this matter, > > > > Gareth. > > > > > Manchester Apollo 0161 242 2560 > > Just got 2 tickets ... 4th row centre ... £25.00 each. > ____________________________________ > IMPORTANT - this e-mail and the information that it contains may be > confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. Access by the > intended recipient only is authorised. Any liability (in negligence or > otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, > on any information contained in this e-mail is hereby excluded. 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The partners in the firm are solicitors or > registered foreign lawyers and a list of their names can be inspected at 7 > Devonshire Square, Cutlers Garden, London EC2M 4YH; 2 Park Lane, Leeds LS3 > 1ES; at our other offices in Lloyds of London, Manchester, Bradford and > Brussels; and at http://www.hammondsuddards.co.uk > ____________________________________ > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:51:57 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does JFROXY Post About 1,000, 000TimesA Day? Ah, but Gene, if it's as successful as you hope, doesn't that mean there'll be a volume two? And Three?? I heard the album for the first time last night, and I think it's terrific! When I've time, I'll try to say why. Tim - -----Original Message----- From: Decophile To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does JFROXY Post About 1,000, 000TimesA Day? >-----Original Message----- >From: Martin Stockman >To: avalon@smoe.org >Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 12:04 PM >But I`m glad Ferry has this opportunity to do something he really wanted to >do and I do hope it does well. I hope it goes triple platinum and is used in >automobile and fast food commercials and just floods the airwaves making him >tons of money. Then perhaps he`ll get it out of his system once and for all >and get on with something more original and inspiring. > >Gene > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:32:42 +0100 From: "Andy Cooper" Subject: [AVALON] RFH tickets To all those people who e-mailed Martin Stockman (the great Martino) re:tickets for RFH - he just rang me to say he's got a shed-load of tickets this morning in the first two rows!!! He will be in touch shortly.....you know who you are. I also got one in the second row - will see you all there in the bar first of course.... And in a rush of blood to the head I also ordered two in the front row at Bristol, Colston Hall - closer to home for me!! Let's hope it's a good show - after these mixed reviews of the disc who knows...but I would just like to say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about music - it is subjective not objective - and if everybody had the same tastes it would be a very boring world. I for one am glad that all Avalonians are not alike (but privately wish some were a little less outfield than others!!!) Cheers all Andy still washing CDs in soapy water and worried about my TTOIA box set (which I will check out tonight) - yep dem's Digipak trays in dat box set!! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:51:35 -0400 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] yet another opinion Hello group- I've been waiting for this question - it is the first thing I thought of when hearing it for the first time: sharon said: >Can anyone interpret the poem on "I'm In The Mood For Love"? Actually the *first* thing I thought was 'oh, French'. I am NOT rushing out to buy ATGB, because I am going to the first show Nov 02; it's soon enough that I won't go crazy wondering, and after listening to the first songs on my PC, I want it to have a real debut. I can remember many 'first listens' of records I love - perhaps ATGB will be one of those, but the digital age has cheapened that experience. I enjoyed the notion of relaxing with a scotch, in the dark perhaps, settled in to fully absorb the latest release from my musical hero. Well, I was sitting at my desk, puny sound leaking from these little plastic speakers, peering into a 2 inch window at the murky, dithered image of 'someone' who I would not be able to identify if he kept quiet, for my personal premiere of 'As Time Goes By' (I didn't know until a couple of days ago that it was on "More than This') It just doesn't get any better than this. A similar experience was my first 'Joy to the World' (Three Dog Night) - hiding under the blankets after midnight, listening to my new, pink plastic, hand-me-down Philco AM radio with the 3" speaker that buzzed on the louder bass notes . My Mom just gave me the old kitchen radio that night, and I was supposed to be sleeping, but couldn't, because I had just gotten my personal door to the real world outside. There was a bunch of babble...then something I never heard before that moment.."Jeremiah was a bullfrog!...". Well, actually similar only because those two experiences relied on the same sound reproduction quality. (before you moan "Three Dog Night! - UGH!" let me mention that at 11 years old, you take what you can get, and TDN sold 50 million records in the early 70's, along with 20+ top forty hits - look it up. And I STILL LIKE THEM) >I conclude my thoughts on the cd, will be at the 930 club in DC on the 2nd Should the early concert goers post the set list and reviews? or should we wait until everyone has had a chance to experience the 30's version of BF for themselves? - H. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:03:40 -0400 From: Jeff Kay Subject: Re: [AVALON] REMASTERED AVALON Look very closely under a bright light its there, but hardly noticable. S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk wrote: > my pseudo digipak version of the above does not mirror the vinyl packaging > as do the other remasters. it doesn't have any track or other credit > listings on its reverse nor the lyrics on the sleeve. > > have i got a duff copy or is this the default ? > > steve > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:08:35 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] REMASTERED AVALON In a message dated 22/10/99 09:25:28 GMT Daylight Time, S.J.Batie@open.ac.uk writes: << it doesn't have any track or other credit listings on its reverse nor the lyrics on the sleeve. >> It does have credits on the reverse, but the writing is so dark you cannot make it out, also they have put the single version of "Avalon" on it, which has slightly different backing vocals than the original album version. JF. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:39:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] ATGB/Career move On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 POE1527@aol.com wrote: > reminded me of rudy valle "the vagabond lover"which was some relief for > thougts of "tiny tim" hadcrept into my mind was i going mad could this really > be the artist i had most idolized and staked my reputation on for so long I once saw Tiny Tim play with The Weirdos at Hollywood High. It was pretty amazing. Actually, I'm kind of happy that Ferry's CD is drawing mixed reactions. The more people hate it, the more used copies there'll be. Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:38:52 EDT From: Broso@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] BF German Mag Interview (translated) - ATGB, ROXY REUN & JERRY HALL Hi here´s a translation of an interview BF did with the german MusikExpress. And the german tourdates: 02.12. Frankfurt 06.12. Hamburg 08.12. Duesseldorf 09.12. Munich Your new album sounds like long gone times... Like the 30s, yes. My producer Rhett Davies had to stop me for I was going too far. At least some songs were recorded in MONO. An my pianist Colin plays a lot like the 30s style - like Teddy Wilson. The earliest music that I can remember were the record s of my aunts. I was about 5. But I do remember those real classics. When I became a musician myself - around 11 - my favourite musicians ware Charlie Parker and Billie Holiday. You even cover German songs like September Song... Sure. I´m a huge fan of Kurt Weill. I always wanted to record one of his songs. And September Song is perfect. I think we found a nice little string-arrangement for it. What fascinates you about the 30s ? I like the darker side of this era. the Cotton Club in Harlem or the cabarets of Berlin - dust on the floor and all full of cigarette smoke. The musicals of Fred Astaire however always showed a white, perfect world. And those beautiful women! The perfect illusion? Exactly. One of the strongest movement in the 30s was surrealism, which I like a lot. And about the music: It only managed to recapture its vitality in the 50s - with rock n roll. What about the Roxy reunion? Chances are very good right now - Virgin just publishes our back-catalogue - this would be a very good point of time. But I do become very nostalgical, thinking about Roxy Music. So it´s just a matter of time? I´d love to be on a stage together with Andy and Phil one day - with Brian too, but Brian doesn´t like the stage anymore. In the studio, it would work. For my next project, an album with my own songs, Brian is 100% booked already. Is there a lot of unpublished material in the archives? No, not much. A few live-recordings, I think, and the first Roxy demo tape. But that really is interesting. Maybe we should give it to an auction at Sotheby s. Did you take notice of the Glam-Revival that was ignited by films such as Velvet Goldmine? I went with Brian Eno to the premiere in Cannes. We sat together in the cinema and it was very nice. They used some of Brian´s and my songs for that movie. At the End they clapped their hands. Very amusing. Despite the fact some were disappointed by the movie? I´ll leave that to others to discuss. It had its strong moments and impressive scenes. But to be honest - I did not understand the plot. For some years back in the 70s you lived with Jerry Hall. Was the divorce from Mick some kind of late satisfaction? No - I really do laugh about it a lot. But with the 30 million dollar, Mick has to pay, he really got away cheaply... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:09:16 +0100 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] UK tour tickets Go Go Go! Tickets have gone on sale today for (at least) Liverpool 10 Dec; Sheffield 12 Dec; RFH London 14 Dec; Glasgow 17 Dec. and Newcastle 18 Dec. I have tickets for all these dates. The Croyden concert has been confirmed for Dec. 15 but tickets not yet on sale..probably Monday next, 25 Nov. I'm not sure of the arrangemnts for Bristol or Manchester, I've haven't called them as I can't make it to those two. My guess is that they are on sale now. Box office 'phone numbers: Liverpool 0151 709 4321 Sheffield (City Hall) 0114 278 9789 RFH 0171 960 4242 Glasgow (credit card line only) 0141 287 7777 Newcastle 0191 261 2606 Good Luck! David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:20:15 +0100 From: "Jason Gibbs" Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK tour tickets Go Go Go! > >Box office 'phone numbers: > >Royal Festival Hall, London DEC 14th. 0171 960 4242 Going fast . . . just bought two expensive ones at 40 pounds each, 4th row. Hurry everybody!! The lady did 'warn' me he is singing classics from the 30s . Jason - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:22:57 EDT From: Gal410@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] yet another opinion I have been reading every post, and I too am trying to be objective, but I really agree more with Colleen and Gene on this work. The one song that really surprised me was "I'm in the Mood for Love". I had pictured (before I heard it) visions of Alfalfa from the Little Rascals in my head, and was not eager to hear the song, but I really liked Bryan's version and arrangement on this song. eRacerX(H.) - I agree with you on waiting to buy my own copy of this CD until after the concert. I will wait to see the concert first (which I am still praying to hear some of his own originals at)!! Bryan- if you do read these message boards, I'm begging you sing a few of your own!!!! Most local bands you see in bars, clubs, etc., who do covers that they know the people will enjoy hearing, strive for the day they can freely do their own music, and if their lucky their own music will be covered one day by up and coming artists. Bryan's own work is so superior to his covers in my opinion (except his cover of Jealous Guy makes me melt). And isn't that the opinion that every artist longs to hear? p.s. Gene- I really enjoyed reading your comments. Everyone has the right to their own opinion pro or con. People may think that negative comments are unloyal, but I think that loyalty and honesty should go hand in hand. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:31:00 EDT From: Gal410@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] yet another opinion Getting away from ATGB, I was watching a video (studio video) of Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry singing "Jealous Guy". Bryan is wearing a silver/grey suit, and a pink tie. That video is so intense and Bryan makes my heart melt every time I watch it. Has anybody seen this video. I taped it years ago. Heidi p.s. on my previous post, I did not sign my name: Gal410@aol.com (Heidi) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:42:45 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please > > I think we are on the list that has little to no information about Ferry > > or Roxy Music or related artists. > > > > Current topics are: Monkey Boy(whatever...), Gee let's see um how > > about "What clothe I'm going to wear to the concert", um, somebody's > > pregnant. I could go on, but I think you get my point. > > Oops, you forgot the Bowie thread. 1st of all there is a ton of info here,people like JO'B post things a few days before the rest of the world finds out. 2nd, it's a place for opinions and discusion right? OK now, a woman is pregnant and wants to know if there will be 3 electric guitars and a thunder thumb bass player or rather an upright bass w/ acoustic piano, because, she doesn't want the vibrations to shake the kid out early, and people have a problem with this? Get a grip. The monkey guy is a bit annoying to me, but what is the difference between what you are wearing to the show and what row you are in? I don't care where you sit, but it's fun to share, let people be themselves. I find the link between Bowie and Ferry fascinating, Ferry peaked in the 80's and Bowie sucked, now it has turned around a little IMO, and I'm intrigued by the Eno factor, and this is now irrelevant? This elitist attitude of some of those who dig show tunes from the 30's is sickening. I find the music boring. Yes I respect the craftiness of the songwriting and those who like it, but it reminds me of a horrible time in America and I would rather move forward. It does nothing for me. Does that make you better or worse than me? I've never seen so much, I stick up for you, thanks for covering my back, your country is not as good as ours, ugh...... and how much of a music buff with such tasteful discretion are you if you like "everything the man has done" whether you have heard it or not? Whoever asked; Neil Hubbard played on BB Kings' Deuces Wild album from a few years ago. I hope that doesn't piss anybody off. Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:47:25 -0400 From: "Amy Bettisworth" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Now here's a Bright Idea. Of course I realize that this list of suggestions was a tad sarcastic (was it Britney Spears that clued me in?). However, wouldn't a collaboration with Everything But the Girl be interesting? Tracey Thorne has such a creamy voice. Seems like a good fit to me! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:47:54 -0400 From: "Amy Bettisworth" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Mini-LP CDs Heather, Check A&B Sound. (www.absound.com) I just received "Siren," "Viva" and "Avalon." The packaging is pretty nifty. It is in that mini-album format. It took me awhile to get my shipment, but it did come through in perfect condition. And with the Canadian exchange rate it came out to about $8 a disc U.S. Not too bad. My only complaint is that the type on the Avalon jacket is totally illegible. It's so muted and tiny that it's impossible to decipher. I am glad I got it though. There are lots of little nuances in the remastered version that didn't come through on the regular edition. Cheers! Amy B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:45:22 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please Just put all the shit down to pre-match nerves. > ---------- > From: jspellman[SMTP:jspellman@banet.net] > Reply To: avalon@smoe.org > Sent: 22 October 1999 15:42 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please > > > > I think we are on the list that has little to no information about > Ferry > > > or Roxy Music or related artists. > > > > > > Current topics are: Monkey Boy(whatever...), Gee let's see um how > > > about "What clothe I'm going to wear to the concert", um, somebody's > > > pregnant. I could go on, but I think you get my point. > > > > Oops, you forgot the Bowie thread. > > 1st of all there is a ton of info here,people like JO'B post things a few > days before the rest of the world finds out. > 2nd, it's a place for opinions and discusion right? > > OK now, a woman is pregnant and wants to know > if there will be 3 electric guitars and a thunder > thumb bass player or rather an upright bass w/ acoustic > piano, because, she doesn't want the vibrations > to shake the kid out early, and people have > a problem with this? Get a grip. > > The monkey guy is a bit annoying to me, > but what is the difference between what you > are wearing to the show and what row > you are in? I don't care where you sit, > but it's fun to share, let people be > themselves. > > I find the link between Bowie and Ferry fascinating, > Ferry peaked in the 80's and Bowie sucked, > now it has turned around a little IMO, > and I'm intrigued by the Eno factor, and this > is now irrelevant? > > This elitist attitude of some of those who > dig show tunes from the 30's is sickening. > I find the music boring. Yes I respect the > craftiness of the songwriting and those > who like it, but it reminds > me of a horrible time in America and I > would rather move forward. It does > nothing for me. Does that make you better > or worse than me? > > I've never seen so much, I stick up for you, > thanks for covering my back, your country > is not as good as ours, ugh...... and how much > of a music buff with such tasteful discretion > are you if you like "everything the man has done" > whether you have heard it or not? > > Whoever asked; Neil Hubbard played > on BB Kings' Deuces Wild album from > a few years ago. I hope that doesn't piss > anybody off. > > Jim > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:58:36 -0700 From: "Franklin R. Smith" Subject: [AVALON] ATGB - Ugh!!!! First of all, let me preface this by saying that although I don't post much on this site, I am a die hard BF/RM freak. Not a fanatic - but a freak. So, with that said, I played ATGB. First of all, when I heard "I'm in the mood..", I cringed. The vocals - the maestro cannot carry a note! He was never an accomplished vocalist - but he had a style that was impeccable and a perfect match for the progressive arrangements of RM, etc. But as a crooner who can carry some of those 30's tunes....OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!! Thoughts...? The album is a TOTAl MISCALCULATION!!! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:57:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Ashar Subject: Re: [AVALON] Now here's a Bright Idea. - --- Amy Bettisworth wrote: However, wouldn't a > collaboration with Everything But the Girl be interesting? Tracey > Thorne has such a creamy voice. Seems like a good fit to me! SOunds super. Or Natacha Atlas, and she'd be right up his hyper-exotic alley (drop-dead gorgeous belly-dancer with an amazing voice, electronic past... my type at least. Er, back to the list). Trying to stop drinking so much coffee, Neil "Marcello" Ashar ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:34:22 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please >This elitist attitude of some of those who >dig show tunes from the 30's is sickening. >I find the music boring. Yes I respect the >craftiness of the songwriting and those >who like it, but it reminds >me of a horrible time in America and I >would rather move forward. It does >nothing for me. Does that make you better >or worse than me? The subject you (Jim) chose for this thread is "Lighten up please". Is that what you're doing? I don't think so. Instead, you talk about "elitist attitide"! I happen to like ATGB and I have said why. I also happen to think that Mamouna is far, far overrated on this list, not to mention Taxi. That is not the opinion of everyone. In fact, I've been asked to run to a neighbour a have my pulse checked if Your Painted Smile didn't make my blood race. Now, did I start to cry when then happened? Did I accuse those of a different opinion than my own to be not themselves but Bryan Ferry in disguise (Colleen)?? I thought the point of this list was to discuss and even debate, among other things, the records of Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music. Apparently I was wrong. Apparently, the way to do it is to write a review, saying than this music is background noise at a yuppie dinnerparty, implying that those who like it must be total airheads, and then slay everyone who happens to disagree with that opinion. /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:39:18 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > Just put all the shit down to pre-match nerves. > Huh? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:39:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > Did I accuse those of a different opinion than my own > to be not themselves but Bryan Ferry in disguise (Colleen)?? > I thought the point of this list was to discuss and even debate, among > other things, the records of Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music. > Apparently I was wrong. > Apparently, the way to do it is to write a review, saying > than this music is background noise at a yuppie dinnerparty, implying > that those who like it must be total airheads, and then slay > everyone who happens to disagree with that opinion. Now hold on a minute, pardner. I asked why I was being personally attacked for my opinions, and why my opinions themselves were not being discussed in the rough and tumble of a good feisty discussion. Also, I never implied anywhere in my review that anyone who liked it was an airhead. In fact I don't remember even referring to anyone else in my review. I spoke only for myself. I speak only for myself. And I have more to say about the album based on what I've been reading from the list. I hope others do as well. "All Styles Served Here," after all. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:44:15 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You Brilliant choice. This is the one I've had on my mind as well. Just Like >You is a powerful psychological study on the dynamics of love as Ferry >reveals his obsession, his heartache, and how this loss will make him >cynical in the future. It's a beautifully passionate performance and surely >one of the all time best love songs. I've always thought that Just like you has been terribly underrated. It's one of my favourite Roxy-songs, and you describe it beautifly, Gareth! /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:49:54 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > The subject you (Jim) chose for this thread is "Lighten up please". > Is that what you're doing? I don't think so. Instead, you > talk about "elitist attitide"! > I happen to like ATGB and I have said why. > I also happen to think that Mamouna is far, far overrated > on this list, not to mention Taxi. > That is not the opinion of everyone. In fact, I've been > asked to run to a neighbour a have my pulse checked if > Your Painted Smile didn't make my blood race. > Now, did I start to cry when then happened? > Did I accuse those of a different opinion than my own > to be not themselves but Bryan Ferry in disguise (Colleen)?? > I thought the point of this list was to discuss and even debate, among > other things, the records of Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music. > Apparently I was wrong. > Apparently, the way to do it is to write a review, saying > than this music is background noise at a yuppie dinnerparty, implying > that those who like it must be total airheads, and then slay > everyone who happens to disagree with that opinion. > > /Kicki G I never put anyone down for liking the album,just bummed at the ones getting on those talking about the other subjects I mentioned.You may have missed the posts from some (not all) who said we in America don't like ATGB because we are shallow and don't get Bryan's sound. Look back at Froxy Lady. But hey, some like the Eno yrs, or Jobson or dislike the big band, and this is just another stage, but because it's happening now it's causing a big shit storm. Jim > > > ------------------------ > Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 > http://www.op.se > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:06:50 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please >I never put anyone down for liking the album,just bummed at the ones >getting on those talking >about the other subjects I mentioned.You may have >missed the posts from some (not all) who >said we in America don't like ATGB because >we are shallow and don't get Bryan's sound. Look back >at Froxy Lady. But hey, some like the Eno yrs, >or Jobson or dislike the big band, and this is >just another stage, but because it's happening >now it's causing a big shit storm. No, I haven't missed any posts, but I just can't see the shit storm you talk about. Had I been American I would perhaps percieved it differently. Kicki G - in very crumpled khakis - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:14:11 +0100 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] time goes by Any idea which country would mainly be using Amazon ? US ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: tfagan To: Sent: 21 October 1999 02:54 Subject: Re: [AVALON] time goes by > There's obviously more than "just us" buying ATGB -- at Amazon Music it > was the 24th highest selling CD yesterday (1st day) and zoomed up to number > 16 today. > > Isn't life ironic?? > > --TriTri > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:20:28 +0100 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Music Week Yes and sorry to mention it but you be sure David Bowie's new LP makes it into shop windows. Rob > The UK music industry's weekly (erstwhile?) bible reports that only Tower > Records and some obscure record chain that I've never heard of are to give > Ferry's album window space or to include it in their selection of CDs at > listening booths next week. Not a mention of support from HMV. > > ATGB, the single, gets a good review there. > > And finally, it seems that there are *three* versions of the Dazed & > Confused magazine, Ferry completists - one for each Saint from All Saints. > > B > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:09:43 +0100 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Will rock for food - ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Ashar To: Sent: 21 October 1999 00:59 Subject: [AVALON] Will rock for food Neil Ashar wrote........ > At the same time, if Ferry's label supposed his covers would have > greater commercial appeal than his original efforts, to hear this they > must have been smoking something strong and impure. > Neil in WeHo Or possibly they've heard his original efforts.......... Rob > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:14:59 EDT From: MonquiBoy@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Lightn Up peese! Can we all jus get alopng? Digipak, the Frenly Avalo Monke - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:19:35 -0400 (EDT) From: axelbartoli@cheerful.com Subject: [AVALON] No Tour in Midlands?!!!! No, help, this cannot be.... I definatley saw (somewhere) on the UK tour list that there would be a concert in Wolverhampton or Birmingham, yet on the mailing list nobody has mentioned a Midlands venue. Please somebody, tell me he is playing at one of these places, please!!!!! For a poor student with no Motor, things are looking bleak, Alex. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:21:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lighten Up Please On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, jspellman wrote: > > > Current topics are: Monkey Boy(whatever...), Gee let's see um how > > > about "What clothe I'm going to wear to the concert", um, somebody's > > > pregnant. I could go on, but I think you get my point. > > > OK now, a woman is pregnant and wants to know > if there will be 3 electric guitars and a thunder > thumb bass player or rather an upright bass w/ acoustic > piano, because, she doesn't want the vibrations > to shake the kid out early, and people have > a problem with this? Get a grip. > Yeah, I'm the one who's pregnant, and I'd like to extend a sincere thanks to Jim for responding to that person. Last time I heard, electronic mailing lists were still forums for people to discuss the things they are interested in. There are two parts to that equation - people and the things they are interested in. Yes, the primary reason were are here is the subject of interest, and we are going to share facts about that subject most of the time, but we are also a community of people and that's an equally important part of the reason we are here together. We have common human experiences, both in our on and off-list lives, and as contributors to this community, we have a right to share them. I'm not here to get to know a group of fact books or price lists, I could look to the Trouser Press if ALL I wanted was information on a certain band. I spend my time here beceause I know there are REAL LIVE PEOPLE behind all this, people with feelings and experiences and a need to share them. With that said, I expect not to be belittled when I let on that there is actually a heartbeat behind my words. Thanks, Heather Buch - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #322 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest