From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #317 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, October 20 1999 Volume 04 : Number 317 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Link to Telegraph [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Yes It Is You [Neil Ashar ] Re: [AVALON] daily telegraph ["Roxy List" ] Re: [AVALON] let me get one thing straight ["Roxy List" ] Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? [Bahi Para ] Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? ["Decophile" ] [AVALON] Monkey Bizness [MonquiBoy@aol.com] [AVALON] 39 Steps Cd single snowflake design / As time goes by ["David Ni] Re: [AVALON] Monkey Boy ....is he Vapor? [jspellman ] Re: [AVALON] UK Tickets ["Richard Swift" ] Re: [AVALON] Depression has set in..... ["Richard Swift" ] Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? ["Chan" ] Re: [AVALON] anyone out there conceived at a Roxy gig? ["eRacerX" ] [AVALON] Monkie Boy Captured! [Brian Folks ] [AVALON] to each their wha? ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie/Ferry [Rod Le Cloux ] Re: [AVALON] Flame Me [Rod Le Cloux ] Re: [AVALON] Monkey Mad [Rod Le Cloux ] Re: [AVALON] Flame Me [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does JFROXY Post About 1,000, 000Times A Day? [JFROXY@aol] Re: [AVALON] FROXY Lady [RODEISLRED@aol.com] [AVALON] Manzanera.com Updated [markh ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie/Ferry ["Robert Whiteford" Subject: [AVALON] Link to Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=002039319158122&rtmo=qu9ebXe9&atmo=gggggggK& pg=/et/99/10/16/tlferr16.html This should get you to the Telegraph's article. Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Ashar Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Yes It Is You Hey Red: Why the hell is your email name "Rhode Island Red?" Or is it just me? Love and misses Neil - --- RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/19/99 9:24:13 PM, JFROXY@aol.com writes: > > >the > >wonderful Frank Zappa > > > Aaah the English, always so far ahead of us overseas primates. Hey > 'JFROXY,' > don't you have a day job? Great name, by the way. Do you have a > plexiglass > see-through violin to play along to the new CD? > > --Red > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:30:36 EDT From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Always Shakin', Always Stirred Hey 'Will Rock For Food' Neil ( AKA Another Bore), I'm a redhead. And I like chickens. And it's a great song by ? C'Mon, music EXPERTS. Red ps. Who (or what) the hell is Monkey Boy? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:31:16 -0700 From: "Alison Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Depression has set in..... I hate to sound ignorant, but what is a Digipak? Alison - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Ashar Subject: Re: [AVALON] Always Shakin', Always Stirred - --- RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > Hey 'Will Rock For Food' Neil ( AKA Another Bore), > > I'm a redhead. And I like chickens. And it's a great song by ? Fitting of you to start a flame war then, Auburn One. If you'll explain what you just call me I'll deign to reply to your inevitable other fiery e-mails NA ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:49:33 EDT From: MonquiBoy@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Digipak I hate to sound ignorant, but what is a Digipak? Alison Digipak is name Dr Jane gudall gave Monkey Boy long time go...I like MB better. No like bowie, he tried to make MB do nasty things at Tropikana one nite Monkey Boy (who think REd is mean>() - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Ashar Subject: Re: [AVALON] Digipak Ook ook At the risk of disappointing some of the Pawtucket Poultry on this list, I'll leave the soapbox and answer the question. A digipak can be a plasticky box thing used for some CD singles, EPs, and the like. Am I right? NA - --- MonquiBoy@aol.com wrote: > I hate to sound ignorant, but what is a Digipak? > > Alison > > Digipak is name Dr Jane gudall gave Monkey Boy long time go...I like > MB > better. > No like bowie, he tried to make MB do nasty things at Tropikana one > nite > > Monkey Boy (who think REd is mean>() > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:05:22 +0100 From: "Roxy List" Subject: Re: [AVALON] daily telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ I think they change the articles daily to reflect the newspaper. I took a copy of the text when it was up, though, so I can let you have a copy if you email me off list. Aren't you lucky?? If enough people want it, I'll post it to the list. Martin Wilkinson martin.wilkinson@tesco.net - -----Original Message----- From: mark shanahan To: avalon@smoe.org Date: 19 October 1999 19:46 Subject: [AVALON] daily telegraph >hi again ... > >so, what *is* the daily telegraph's url, please someone? if it's the >'electronic telegraph', then i can't find the article. > >any help appreciated - thanks. > >peaces/ms > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:57:15 +0100 From: "Roxy List" Subject: Re: [AVALON] let me get one thing straight Listen, my wife went to a Bon Jovi concert 6 months pregnant, with the result that we have a strapping 6 year old who wants a Superman tattoo on his shoulder. Go and enjoy!!!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: avalon@smoe.org Date: 19 October 1999 08:27 Subject: Re: [AVALON] let me get one thing straight >Heather, remember to wear aluminiumfilm under your dress. The lightshow >could hurt the baby's eyes. > >cheers >Han > > > >>Thanks for the info, Jocelyn and Colleen, >> >>I have my ticket and I want to go, but now I'm kinda having second >>thoughts as I'm pregnant and do not want to give birth to a deaf baby. >> >> >>Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu >> >> >> >>On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: >> >>> Even if it was Bryan on his own playing spoons you should be going. >>> >>> > ---------- >>> > From: Heather Marie Propes[SMTP:asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu] >>> > Reply To: avalon@smoe.org >>> > Sent: 18 October 1999 16:03 >>> > To: Avalon >>> > Subject: [AVALON] let me get one thing straight >>> > >>> > In his upcoming tour, Bryan Ferry will be accompanied by an orchestra, >not >>> > a loud, guitar-based rock band, right? If anyone could confirm, that >would >>> > be great. I am trying to decide whether or not I should go after all. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop >>> > >>> > Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>-------------------- >>To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >>unsubscribe avalon >> > > > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:07:45 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] Music Week The UK music industry's weekly (erstwhile?) bible reports that only Tower Records and some obscure record chain that I've never heard of are to give Ferry's album window space or to include it in their selection of CDs at listening booths next week. Not a mention of support from HMV. ATGB, the single, gets a good review there. And finally, it seems that there are *three* versions of the Dazed & Confused magazine, Ferry completists - one for each Saint from All Saints. B - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:13:45 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? Kicki wrote: >I'd say this record is more of a tribute to an era, Ferry paying hommage. >It's without posing, without irony but not without a lot of passion and >love for this particular music. Agreed. So far, I've only heard the 3 the songs that Chan digitised. Two sound wonderful now, but I'm still warming to Miss Otis Regrets. I've been subjected to Evan Dando's verion of the song - that probably makes it harder to like Bryan's. B - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:19:39 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? - -----Original Message----- From: JFROXY@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? >Isn't that why Roxy/Ferry never made it big in the USA in the first place, >cos the music was too Euro/avant garde/arty for American ears? That`s the fault of the American media. Anal retentives....all of them! >Even the >wonderful Frank Zappa was literally ignored by his fellow countrymen for >being too left field. I must admit I was not too enamoured at the thought of >this album originally, but what I have heard so far is excellent. C'mon, John. Excellent? For Your Pleasure was excellent. Not this. >By the way, >how come Americans took to hilarious British crap like Depeche Mode and A >flock of seagulls l in such a big way, yet ignored Roxy??????? Disgraceful! Again, the American media. I`ve personally turned more people on to Roxy than any other band and most of these people have since explored other Roxy material on their own. Gene > >JF. > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:13:05 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] Depression has set in..... Andy Cooper wrote: >I removed the disc from the Digipak case and looked at the play/audio data >side of the disc - it looked as if some extremely small little alien >character had been ice skating all around the disc - it is covered in a >most intricate pattern of squirls and squiggles which makes my CD player's >heart skip several beats - so this disc is no longer playable. Then >dreading the worst I checked out the rest of the Ferry/Roxy collection and >to my horror most of my discs that are stored in Digipaks [not slim jewel >cases] are affected the same way!!! It must be some kind of chemical >reaction between the two plastics of the Digipak case and the disc. =========== It's a known problem on the Mamouna single but I didn't know the rest were affected. Wash it (ideally in distilled water, not ionised) and the stuff comes off. Put it into something other than a DigiPak. You're right, it's a chemical thing. My copies of the other Taxi singles are okay - my copy of the Mamouna single develops this white film if it's stored in its DigiPak. It's fine in its current horrible transparent plastic CD box. (Neil, a DigiPak is plasticky but less so than the standard CD jewel case. Card cover with a tough plastic CD holder inside - less likely to break than the regular case. Looks and feels better than the standard one, too. Which reminds me: there were lots of other Eno remixes of the 39 Steps. Does anyone here own them? Bahi (Who is owed a CD ROM burner and expects to receive it in about 6 weeks' time.) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:18:56 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? - -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Pavlock To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? >WOW, finally an honest but puzzling post! I am patiently waiting for >cdnow to send me mine and I hope it is better than what Gene said. I >ordered the Pretty Things new EP with it so if it is "not what I >expected" it wouldn't be a total loss. Still I have high hopes for >ATGB. I can see(hear) him pull it off. C'mon Gene give it another >listen and say it ain't so. Jeff Hey, this is my honest opinion. I haven`t waited all these years for an album only to be tortured by "Miss Otis Regrets"...even if it`s Ferry doing it. I mean, what the hell? How many people are going to buy this album and announce to their friends, "WOW!, Listen to this wonderful version of September Song!" unless they`re very tired and wants everyone to go home. Now, be honest. If I were to have announce to the list a year ago that I wish Ferry would put any plans for a new material album on hold and do an album of the most trite 30`s songs imaginable, I`d have been treated like a leper to this day. Perhaps if it were done tongue-in-cheek, I would possibly "get it". "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" was another popular 30`s hit and would have been a nice addition. Then perhaps it wouldn`t be so (now, don your best Munchkin accent and sing along) "morally, ethically, spiritually, physically, positively-absolutely, un-de-nia-bly and re-lia-bly"....dull! Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:46:37 -0700 From: dawndalion Subject: [AVALON] Monkey Boy ....is he Vapor? Could Monkey Boy be the Vapor???? Where IS the Vapor???? I miss him! Dawne - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:35:30 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] Online Review http://allmusic.com/zine/reviews-newreleases/rock-Aaaart.html - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:38:08 EDT From: MonquiBoy@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Monkey Bizness Yep Monkey Boy am Vaper you guess it, Dumbedalion Ook, Ook Monkey Boy (who thinks Ferry be better backed by Lanselot Link on new c-d) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:50:27 PDT From: "David Nickel" Subject: [AVALON] 39 Steps Cd single snowflake design / As time goes by Two items here: 1. Snowflake design on 39 steps cd single: Encountered identical problem with my 39 steps cd single a couple years ago. Cleaned it up with disk washer fluid and soft cloth...the snowflake design washed right off...cd has been fine ever since. 2. As Time Goes By Picked up 2 cd's today: 'As Time Goes By' & 'Millionaires' by James. I've had a chance to play them both once. One is produced by Eno and is brilliant, the other one...well I don't know. Try the James if discouraged by As Time Goes By. I wish Bryan would give it a listen...he could learn something. Very grand sounding (especially the single - Just Like Fred Astaire) and Eno's production is excellent as usual. Sorry...I realise this is the avalon newsgroup...I'm just a little disappointed with this latest album direction. I will look forward to the new output next year (hopefully). david n ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:11:11 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] Monkey Boy ....is he Vapor? dawndalion wrote: > Could Monkey Boy be the Vapor???? > > Where IS the Vapor???? > > I miss him! Wow Dawn! I was just thinking the same thing.I mean I can just smell him lurking tonight.... This "Monkey Boy"? and Red? Wow! And now you Dawn, we go back to the old days when Jimmy tormented often. It's all leading up to something...... Best, Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:14:39 +0100 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK Tickets There's still the fairly non - commital responses from box offices although Newcastle City Hall did confirm today that Bryan was playing there and tickets would probably be going on sale later this week (fits with what JO'B reliably told us a few days ago). Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:56:32 +0100 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Depression has set in..... I was surprised to hear this but found my Mamouna single similarly affected. Thanks for the tips about getting rid of this. I think I'll store all my digipak singles in jewel cases to be on the safe side, although this is a shame because the digipak is a nice presentation format. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bahi Para To: > > It's a known problem on the Mamouna single but I didn't know the rest were > affected. Wash it (ideally in distilled water, not ionised) and the stuff > comes off. Put it into something other than a DigiPak. You're right, it's a > chemical thing. My copies of the other Taxi singles are okay - my copy of > the Mamouna single develops this white film if it's stored in its DigiPak. > It's fine in its current horrible transparent plastic CD box. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:09:56 +0100 From: "Richard Swift" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? I agree with what you say Kicki. I think a 'conventional' album of Ferry covers would have been less inspiring at this stage. Doubtless the interpretations would have been interesting and the musicianship splendid, but we'd be in familiar Ferry territory. This is something completely new for Bryan - an album of 30s songs delivered in a wholly 30s style - none of the big production or overly elaborate vocals that are the baggage of offerings by others wallowing in nostalgia to earn a quick quid. To his credit Bryan has produced an album of songs so authentic that he will be relying on a whole new market (since, like Gene there will be many who don't like this) to make the album financially viable. I welcome the album (whilst looking forward to a new one of originals) and hope he finds the said market. Richard > > I think it's difficult to compare ATGB with Ferry's other records. > These aren't really Bryan Ferry's _versions_ of old songs, like when he did > These Foolish Things or I put a spell on you. > I'd say this record is more of a tribute to an era, Ferry paying hommage. > It's without posing, without irony but not without a lot of passion and > love for this particular music. > I can see _nothing_ wrong with that. > > Kicki G > > ------------------------ > Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 > http://www.op.se > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:39:04 -0700 From: "Alison Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Digipak So Monkey Boy is a chimp, then. The mystery unravels.... Alison > Digipak is name Dr Jane gudall gave Monkey Boy long time go...I like MB > better. > No like bowie, he tried to make MB do nasty things at Tropikana one nite > > Monkey Boy (who think REd is mean>() - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:19:29 -0700 From: "Chan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? - -----Original Message----- From: JFROXY@aol.com >By the way, >how come Americans took to hilarious British crap like Depeche Mode and A >flock of seagulls l in such a big way, yet ignored Roxy??????? Disgraceful! >JF. I can't believe somebody would group Depeche Mode and A flock of seagulls in the same context. Depeche Mode was never avante garde - neither was AFOS for that matter - but rather a synth-pop band with an early industrial edge. Martin Gore's songwriting skills have withstood 18 years of success. Roxy Music was never a "pop" band in the traditional sense like DM or AFOS, so that would obviously explain why they were not as popular. What's easily accessible is always going to be more popular with the masses. However, by that same token, it does not make Roxy Music less of a band, it makes them a less commercial band. This would explain why "Americans" took to DM and heaven knows why you would pick AFOS. They had about 2 popular songs. What about Berlin, Duran Duran, Soft Cell, New Order...? Chan depmode@earthlink.net "Beneath my hands your small breasts are the upturned bellies of breathing fallen sparrows." - Leonard Cohen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:02:36 -0400 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does This Thing Suck? From: Colleen Matan >Yes, that's right--Americans are Philistines. It's our cross in life to >bear that we never spawned such musical treasures as Take That. > >And now please pardon me because it's time for me to mop my trailer. That was funny. thanks. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:12:19 -0400 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Flame Me - not >How many of us are devotees of BF because of the music he is currently >doing? .......frankly it's a bit pathetic >to go wild over a 30's cover album. You got it Peter. What drew me in? Style. Elegance. Grace. Bryan was way cool. Is this 30's thing cool? I guess so, compared to the rest of the 'art' currently available. Also, I like the crooning. He can really sing. -H. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:26:33 -0400 From: "eRacerX" Subject: Re: [AVALON] anyone out there conceived at a Roxy gig? Jocelyn: I don't know about THAT, but I will admit to keeping Avalon very close by in case my date decided to stay and have a pajama party. A few years later, I read that Avalon was voted in the top ten of 'Make Out' records, and my wife and I had a good laugh. - -H. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:50:17 PDT From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] mr. ferry ... greetings everyone: i have to say, i didn't (i never do ...) expect any kind of 'clunker' from mr. ferry, but this ouevre is the best thing since sliced f-ing bread. i give 'atgb' an A++ -- absolutely! i mean, really -- i don't know if i can say he had the muse whispering in his ear, but this is *good stuff*! wow, am i impressed ... the arrangements are just *wonderful*. the only disappointment in two listens is 'the way you look tonight'. it's beautifully done, of course, but (at least so far) is a bit on the 'uptempo' side (for one of my favorite songs) ... maybe just a little too fast(?). but it is sort of a dixie/n'orleans approach to the piece, so it works. my favorites so far are 'sweet & lovely', 'i'm in the mood ...'(the one tune that seems to hark back to 'taxi' production techniques), 'miss otis' (really the best rendition i've *ever* heard). hands down, though, is 'just one of those things'. i think he was just _touched_ on this one ... woo! i really think this album is *that* good. the instrumentation, arrangements are just great, but i LOVE the way they got the vocals down. they sound so ... dry - intimate, plain & direct. and i'm soooo glad he didn't fall into the trap of miking the vocal so it's got the 20's/30's 'tin can in a tunnel' sound. they're just nice, understated and direct. authentic, genuine. and, granted - all this is from the biased mind of a fan, but i could very well see where this might not have come off exactly as well as it has. to my mind, of course ... but -- tell me -- who else (at least in rock/pop) could have pulled off the totally sincere rendition of the title tune? not many! it's got 'schmaltz' written all over it -- just waiting for someone to hack at it ... now, i really think this show is going to be something else indeed! well, i'll be on cloud 9 for a while - and to think we may get an album of originals next year (no breath-holding). this disc will not be leaving my player anytime soon!! can you tell i'm gobsmacked? it's embarrassing, really ... no doubt i'll come up with a REAL critique here, after i climb down ....... NOT! take care. peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:58:56 -0700 From: Brian Folks Subject: [AVALON] Monkie Boy Captured! If you are dying to see what Monkie Boy looks like just browse to this URL and view an mpeg of what all the fuss is about: http://members.home.net/bfolks/chimpsnif.mpg - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:18:42 PDT From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] to each their wha? well, now - after what seems to be an infamous post on the new album ... i can see, gene, why you're pissed. frankly, i wasn't too thrilled to hear about yet another cover album (for what? - to 'pass the time'?), but really - -- he's brought these numbers to life. IMO, of course. for me, i've always loved these songs & standards in general. and, the thing is, he really has done them justice and more. taken them and made them his own, i really think and feel the album is that strong. if - for someone who never really liked a lot of these tunes (?) - it would make sense for this endeavor (the album) to be rather useless and frustrating. i mean, i'm on the one hand just happy to have him actually putting something out ... but, on the other -- this is some good s**t, man! i don't know how *deep* he dug, but i don't think he just hopped in the studio from the limo and did a 'one-off' in a day and said, 'cheers, then ...' and the fact that martha stewart probably likes this disc doesn't phase me a bit! oh well, not for everyone ... peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:17:19 -0700 From: Rod Le Cloux Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie/Ferry jspellman wrote: > > I disagree w/ all the Bowie bashing. I saw him on VH-1 Storytellers > last night and I think the haircut looks great. More important > I liked his new music. The treat for me was "Word on a Wing" > and his 1st single "Can't Help Thinking About Me" > from '66. If he's not your cup of tea, fine, but at least there is > music to praise or criticize. I'm sorry I'm just not excited > about another album of covers from Bryan. > One album in 12 years with tons of material locked in > the vault, it's a crying shame. > > Jim > Hi Jim, I agree 100% about what you said above about Bowie and Ferry. I didn't understand the Bowie bashing either considering you would think most Roxy fans would be the most tolerent. How can you not like the Bowie/Eno songs on Outside and Earthling? At the end of "Legends", which aired prior to "Storytellers" Bowie tried to explain where he's coming from in terms of his music and presentations on stage. He went on to explain that people tend to either love his music or hate it. And that's what he's attempting to do, provoke the listener. I think most people just don't understand where he's coming from. Because he's so interested in many types of music and is willing to incorporate them into his musical pallette. Some people seem to think that he's trying to copy some current style or trend which is just not the case. I also can't get real excited about the Ferry's 30's crooning album coming out. I will probably wait to pick it up in the cut-out bin. However, I'm extremely happy for all the people on this list who are going to see his current show and have his new CD. Maybe I will appreciate his new album 20 years from now and start a new thread then on how great the new album is. As Always... Take Care, NP-David Sylvian - Dead Bee's On A Cake - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:38:03 -0700 From: Rod Le Cloux Subject: Re: [AVALON] Flame Me Peter Dewey wrote: > > Hi all > > I haven't posted here in years, now twice in a week. > > I just listened to the new Bowie album. It's quite good, normal for him > recently. It just made me think, having listened to some of the new > Ferry tunes, what is going on? > Ferry is on a much superior plane to Bowie, but he doesn't seem to feel the need to demonstrate this at all. Huh...Ferry's on a superior plane? Please elaborate, cause ya lost me on that one. > Bowie chucks stuff out regularly, some would say too much, but at least > it's out. Actually, he put's out less new material then he did in the 70's. Remember, he's a genious at marketing. He does a lot of re-releases. But at his pace of a album about every 2 years is quite nice. Bye, Rod - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:44:08 -0700 From: Rod Le Cloux Subject: Re: [AVALON] Monkey Mad MonquiBoy@aol.com wrote: > > Red write:// > > Aaah the English, always so far ahead of us overseas primates. > > hey Red leave us monkey alone. Monkey Boy no like new c-d. No can't dance. > no gud. > > Ook, Ook > > The Monkey > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon After I read this I was wondering if "Monkey Boy" wants a banana. But, then I thought my comments were kinda childish and would be wasting bandwidth. But what the heck... Bye, Rod - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:42:20 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Flame Me In a message dated 19/10/99 10:06:30 GMT Daylight Time, peter@dewey.demon.co.uk writes: << I'm a bit of a Springsteen fan. >> Yeah, that explains the pish you have just been talking. JF - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:46:01 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is It Just Me Or Does JFROXY Post About 1,000, 000Times A Day? In a message dated 19/10/99 10:31:44 GMT Daylight Time, RODEISLRED@aol.com writes: << Aaah the English, always so far ahead of us overseas primates. Hey 'JFROXY,' don't you have a day job? Great name, by the way. Do you have a plexiglass see-through violin to play along to the new CD? >> Didn't I already tell you to piss off, fuckwit? As Martin said previously "jeans and trainers are not allowed in this club", so what is a fuckin' dosser like you doing here? And by the way I am Scottish, arsehole JF - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:52:00 EDT From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] FROXY Lady In a message dated 10/20/99 5:48:04 AM, JFROXY@aol.com writes: << Didn't I already tell you to piss off, fuckwit? As Martin said previously "jeans and trainers are not allowed in this club", so what is a fuckin' dosser like you doing here? And by the way I am Scottish, arsehole JF >> Post 12, 768. What a dullard. A SCOTTISH dullard. Red - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:08:08 -0700 (PDT) From: markh Subject: [AVALON] Manzanera.com Updated Just noticed that Phil's site has been totally redone, and he is autographing CD's bought there. http://www.manzanera.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:08:21 +0100 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie/Ferry I like most of his stuff too. Not sure about Tin Machine but, like Ferry, I'll always buy his albums. Outside was pretty good , especially "I have not been to Oxford Town" - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alison Brown To: Sent: 18 October 1999 07:57 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie/Ferry > > I especially liked "Outside" due to Eno's collaborations and help. I > > can never hear too much of Eno/Bowie. It seems like a lot of Roxy fans > > on this list are stuck in a Bowie 70's timewarp. Have you no > > appreciation for Bowie's music from the 80's and 90's. Yeah, I know I'm > > settin' myself up to be flamed. > > Speaking of a Bowie time warp, it seems that he won't be touring for at > least two years to work on the multi-faceted Ziggy Stardust project that's > been floating around for a while. I guess that could be either good or bad > depending on your point of view. > > Alison > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:16:43 +0100 From: "Robert Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ticket time in Chi-town Top marks to any 16 year old with the taste and intelligence to like Bryan Ferry - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Marie Buch To: Sent: 17 October 1999 19:49 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ticket time in Chi-town > > > On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Alison Brown wrote: > > > > Well, to all those about to go alone to see Ferry, (and especially to you > > > Jas), I salute you! > > > > I'll be all alone too! I probably could have dragged someone along despite > > the high prices, but somehow it's not as fun if the people you're with don't > > care about the show. Plus I got a better seat that way. ;-) > > Amen. My husband wouldn't enjoy it at all. And then he'd be mad because he > spent $50. No thanks! > > Well anyway, I think you're too cool, Alison. A 16-year-old who likes > Ferry/Roxy Music. You've probably got better taste than all your friends! > > Ciao, > > Heather > > > > > Alison > > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > http://home.uchicago.edu/~asbuch/ > > Heather Marie Buch asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:32:22 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Declercq?= Subject: [AVALON] Bryan - pregnancy - Heather Hi to all of you, I just wanted to tell Heather that a girl of my family when to the Limbo tour being pregnant. Not even three month later she gave birth to a very nice looking girly. When she started to speak, one of the first things she said was coca cola, daddy and Brrrriyaan Feeerrrryyyy Nah ! when he came on TV. The story doesn't tell if it was due to the gig or to the fact that the parents are fans ! Anyway, I think that there is no real danger, Heather ! It's not Metallica or something ! It's Bryan ! I wish you to take the best decision. It's may be the last tour... Ciao, Fred. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #317 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest