From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #275 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, September 16 1999 Volume 04 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Eddie Jobson [Kicki Gustafsson ] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #274 ["Vicente Dobroruka" ] Re: [AVALON] GQ comments [Bahi Para ] [AVALON] I know nuthin' about nothing -Reply [Kimberly Shell ] Re: [AVALON] MOJO ["Richard" ] [AVALON] Avalon / recommendations [Oberon ] [AVALON] Mojo ["Robert Fedder" ] Re: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand [Heather Buch ] [AVALON] pre-order ["tfagan" ] Re: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand ["the Chrismer's" Subject: [AVALON] Eddie Jobson The Eddie Jobson-page is now updated with a cute "True confessions" from 1976. Apparently in his own hadwriting... http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG/avalon.html and then Smiling Eddie. Please note his favourite animal! KickiG - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:28:35 -0700 From: "Vicente Dobroruka" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #274 Colleen wrote: "I have no "diseases," musical or otherwise." Sorry I meant no harm. And I am sure you are as healthy as any other Avalonian, whether loving noisy Roxy or not. Be well, Vicente - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:35:16 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] GQ comments Colleen wrote: >I have to say that if someone ever described me as "living 'the >ultimate art-directed existence'" I probably really would go and jump off >Key Bridge. That's dnderstandable but the GQ article doesn't make it clear that this claim comes from a typically arch Harpers article that York wrote 23 years ago - perhaps he too would be uncomfortable hearing it used about Ferry today. All that stuff dredged up again in new interviews - I wonder whether the copy is approved or even tweaked by Puxley or some other sycophant. Endlessly emphasising that Bryan's really a normal bloke, not a toff at all. And, for the last 10 or 15 years, each moronic journo has been finding out that Bryan has a Geordie accent. (Despite these complaints, I still enjoyed the article, believe it or not. Thanks, TriTri.) >I don't even love his lastest body of work as much as many of >you, but this really does alarm me. Pseudo-music for pseudo-sophisticates. >It's shocking--appalling, even--that the music company big-wigs around >Ferry think this is a good use of his considerable talents. I hope this doesn't end up being a piece of cheaply veneered nothingness. If it works as a backdrop for bigwigs' dinner parties, that's not necessarily bad. So does many an excellent Miles album. If it ends up being no worse than These Foolish Things - the idea of which apparently horrified unsmiling music hacks at the time - I'd be happy for now. Perhaps it could even come in a convenient, mirrored case - a special dinner party line for music execs. It seems, judging by recent quotes, that Bryan has convinced himself that he should have recorded much more of other people's music. In '85 or '87, I'd have disagreed but 17 years after the release of Roxy's Avalon, we've had just 4 Ferry albums. Remebering Ferry on the box expressing his regret at having taken a whole 2 years to make Boys and Girls, it's sad to see him constantly stuck like this. Something from - even pseudo-music, if that's all there is - is better than nothing. And one other thing in favour of anything by our art-directed hero this year: the media is looking back over the century and the millennium and looking forward to whatever's next. And in these articles, the knowingness (is that a word?), the tone of disappointment about the way things turned out, the fascination with and hope for the future all seem so Ferry. Wanting to be just everything but always looking back, knowing that you couldn't find a way. All those moments... Bryan has been singing this song for decades - perhaps his time has come. Bahi (Who has, at last, been thrown a line by BT. Roll on ADSL.) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:55:34 -0500 From: Kimberly Shell Subject: [AVALON] I know nuthin' about nothing -Reply Thank you Jas!! I've been checking the radio station's web page and all other local sources I can think of - let's keep each other up!!! - -k >>> 09/15/99 12:49am >>> Chicago Avalonians: I ran into Terri Hemmert (WXRT DJ) tonight at the Shedd Acquarium for a special screening of Yellow Submarine (re-released with the Hey Bulldog sequence!!! I also found out that she is a close friend of a buddy of mine-also at the screening). I asked her about Bryan's upcoming tour and visit to Chicago. She indicated that not even she has any word on where or when. Now if Terri does not know, then it's still in the planning stages. I have yet to see anything in the local press about the upcoming date(s) or a mention about when the latest output will be released. Let's keep each other posted when it happens. Jas PS: At this screening tonight,I found out another buddy of mine is into Bryan. We had never discussed my interest in Bryan before, but he heard my discussion with Terri. He immediately mentioned that he plays Taxi a lot and that it was his favorite. I then told him that I would make my Roxy/Bryan collection available for him to listen to when he had the time. I also told him about Avalon and how you folks are the best. I think he might be a future member. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:22:11 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand Dear Colleen For what it's worth I value your well argued opinions. My problem is with people who vent their dogma as if musical taste is an empirical subject. So my recent barbs have been aimed more at the odd Avalonion holding preposterous certainties about what's good and what's bad. Certainly a case can be made as to why one might prefer the gloss and panache of early Roxy to the morbid and neurotic soul-searching of the later solo albums. Perhaps my life's pattern (drawn in sand) has shadowed the mind-set of the maestro, having gone through the magnesium flare confidence of youth, (I even rode British Rail in a Gaucho outfit for Christ's sake,) to the reflective, vaguely confused, post-nuclear family man who presently taps these keys. As the world turns indeed. The man who sat in a Derbyshire cottage in late '72 writing "Beauty Queen" is the same man who, probably as I type, sits in his Hammersmith studio trying to perfect a 2 second segment of a recording that may never see airtime. We're all a bit puffier, more prone to procrastination, less certain about politics, philosophy, art and truth, than we were as we bestrode the campus in our ostrich feathers. kind regards Martin - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:47:30 +0100 From: "Killip family" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand But one thing we share is an ideal of beauty David - ---------- > From: Martin Stockman > To: Colleen Matan > Cc: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand > Date: 15 September 1999 15:22 > > > Dear Colleen > > For what it's worth I value your well argued opinions. My problem is with > people who vent their dogma as if musical taste is an empirical subject. So > my recent barbs have been aimed more at the odd Avalonion holding > preposterous certainties about what's good and what's bad. Certainly a case > can be made as to why one might prefer the gloss and panache of early Roxy > to the morbid and neurotic soul-searching of the later solo albums. Perhaps > my life's pattern (drawn in sand) has shadowed the mind-set of the maestro, > having gone through the magnesium flare confidence of youth, (I even rode > British Rail in a Gaucho outfit for Christ's sake,) to the reflective, > vaguely confused, post-nuclear family man who presently taps these keys. As > the world turns indeed. The man who sat in a Derbyshire cottage in late '72 > writing "Beauty Queen" is the same man who, probably as I type, sits in his > Hammersmith studio trying to perfect a 2 second segment of a recording that > may never see airtime. We're all a bit puffier, more prone to > procrastination, less certain about politics, philosophy, art and truth, > than we were as we bestrode the campus in our ostrich feathers. > > kind regards > > Martin > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:10:44 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] MOJO In this month's Mojo magazine-"10 questions for Bryan Ferry", quite an informative and interesting interview covering a few topics. Also a couple of nice pix including a full page photo of BF walking across a deserted dance floor dressed in black suit, white shirt and black bow-tie. "Now the ball rooms empty..................." JF - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:33:53 +0200 From: Oberon Subject: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand This, I hope, is so very true. While the industry in general, and people who buy into it's sick jokes are destroying what's left of REAL substance in art and music, Mr. Ferry never fails to move me. His work is that of true and timeless beauty!!! I am so glad to have discovered his music. As long as I live I will make sure that everyone around me knows the name and work of Bryan Ferry. Hope I didn't offend anyone with the above. All good things, Oberon ______________________________________________________________________ Killip family wrote: > But one thing we share is an ideal of beauty > > David - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:36:15 +0100 From: "Richard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] MOJO Quotes from MOJO - On Roxy - "Brian Eno would never go on tour, but if I make a new Roxy album, I'd want him in on production" "We keep threatening to do an album again but the years go whizzing by" On "ATGB" - "I felt pressure to get something out because I haven't had anything for a long time" "...album with acoustic instruments .... there's only one track where I was tempted into the world of electricity, which actually has Phil Manzanera playing on it" On other material - Brian's played on a lot of the stuff I have in the cupboard. We wrote a song together..." Not a lengthy article but interesting and another glimpse of the new haircut / evening wear that will apparently characterise upcoming promotions. Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:57:54 +0200 From: Oberon Subject: [AVALON] Avalon / recommendations Someone from this list didn't quite understand why I didn't like Avalon, so I thought I'd mention that neither can I. It's a great album, it just needed some time to grow on me. It's playing all day long now along with Bowie's "Low" album!!! Also, I just took home a copy of the Viva! Roxy Music LP and it blew me away. I am so lucky to have run into this second hand store where they have quite a few Roxy LPs for next to nothing! Does anyone of you know about any recent interviews with Ferry on the internet? I live in Norway, and he or Roxy isn't really overrepresented in the media here. "We" Norwegians seem to prefer Robbie Williams and TLC.... Till the next time! Oberon another time another song... but a statement of a great, nearly lost beauty.... http://www.mp3.com/artists/28/oberon.html - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 99 20:52:10 UT From: "Robert Fedder" Subject: [AVALON] Mojo New article in this month's Mojo with BF. Good pix - looks better than in GQ. Refers to lots of work with Eno still in the can. Also mentions Manzanera contributes to ATGB. Says he is working on a "website thing". Elsewhere in that issue, it mentions http://www.warchild.org/artists/milestones/03.html for a pice of BF artwork. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:26:55 -0400 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand - --_uReach_com_26916734993744161518458xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk about industry destroying real substance in life, I just saw Bill Gates give an infomercial this morning. 2000 people lined up, just because he is the richest man in the world. I mean, sad as it seems, I don't think there is anyone more famous right now than Bill Gates. Didn't people used to get excited about musicians? I heard something about that once. Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com - ---- On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Oberon (titlesta@online.no) wrote: > This, I hope, is so very true. While the industry in general, and people > who > buy into it's > sick jokes are destroying what's left of REAL substance in art and > music, Mr. > Ferry > never fails to move me. - --_uReach_com_26916734993744161518458xxx_-- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:50:41 -0400 From: "Donna Caskey" Subject: RE: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand The people didn't line up because he is the richest man in the world, rather because of the marvelous technology has brought to the world. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Heather Buch Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:27 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand Talk about industry destroying real substance in life, I just saw Bill Gates give an infomercial this morning. 2000 people lined up, just because he is the richest man in the world. I mean, sad as it seems, I don't think there is anyone more famous right now than Bill Gates. Didn't people used to get excited about musicians? I heard something about that once. Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com - ---- On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Oberon (titlesta@online.no) wrote: > This, I hope, is so very true. While the industry in general, and people > who > buy into it's > sick jokes are destroying what's left of REAL substance in art and > music, Mr. > Ferry > never fails to move me. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:19:40 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: RE: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand I don't usually believe in emoticons but there are computer novices out there who could have taken this thing about marvellous technology seriously. B >The people didn't line up because he is the richest man in the world, rather >because of the marvelous technology has brought to the world. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:34:40 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] MOJO - -----Original Message----- From: Richard To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] MOJO >Quotes from MOJO - > >On Roxy - > >"Brian Eno would never go on tour, but if I make a new Roxy album, I'd want >him in on production" I`m pretty sure the context of this is that Eno would never tour because he literally loathes performing/touring, and not so much, if at all, that Ferry wouldn`t want him to. What a shame. > >"We keep threatening to do an album again but the years go whizzing by" Yeah, so...get off your ass! > >On "ATGB" - > >"I felt pressure to get something out because I haven't had anything for a >long time" Yeah, so...get off your ass! > >"...album with acoustic instruments .... there's only one track where I was >tempted into the world of electricity, which actually has Phil Manzanera >playing on it" Look, Colleen.........light at the end of the tunnel! > >On other material - > >Brian's played on a lot of the stuff I have in the cupboard. We wrote a >song together..." Very interesting. And this cupboard being where.......? > >Not a lengthy article but interesting and another glimpse of the new haircut >/ evening wear that will apparently characterize upcoming promotions. > >Richard Thanks, Richard. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:47:59 -0400 From: "tfagan" Subject: [AVALON] pre-order I just pre-ordered As Time Goes By for $12.49 from CD Now. don't know about other sites! - --TriTri - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:13:01 -0500 From: "the Chrismer's" Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand Yeah, the time was right and if Bill Gates hadn't been the front man, it would have been somebody else....do some research on the guy and you'll see he was just a rich kid with parents who had good connections in the right place at the right time. Not that he doesn't have a talent, but I just don't get that kicked up about it... - -----Original Message----- From: Bahi Para To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:25 PM Subject: RE: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand >I don't usually believe in emoticons but there are computer novices out >there who could have taken this thing about marvellous technology seriously. > >B > >>The people didn't line up because he is the richest man in the world, rather >>because of the marvelous technology has brought to the world. > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:28:13 -0400 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand - --_uReach_com_2691673499374596934207xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would certainly be able to appreciate all the marvelous technology he has brought into the world, were it not for all the marvelous (and free) technology he has kept away from the world. Heather > -----Original Message----- > From: Bahi Para > To: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:25 PM > Subject: RE: Re: [AVALON] Life's pattern drawn in sand > > > >I don't usually believe in emoticons but there are computer novices out > >there who could have taken this thing about marvellous technology > seriously. > > > >B > > > >>The people didn't line up because he is the richest man in the world, > rather > >>because of the marvelous technology has brought to the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com - --_uReach_com_2691673499374596934207xxx_-- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #275 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest