From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #257 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, August 29 1999 Volume 04 : Number 257 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] ["Richard" ] Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album ["Han Snijders en ] Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album ["jesa" ] Re: [AVALON] ["jesa" ] [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile [Helchat@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences ["Killip family" ] [AVALON] uncle rhett ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] ["jesa" ] Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile ["jesa" ] Re: [AVALON] [shinoballo@webtv.net (Jeff Pavlock)] Re: [AVALON] ["jesa" ] [AVALON] a cave of treasures [Glen Lehman ] [AVALON] Reminiscences [ferryman@freeuk.com (Chris Turner)] [AVALON] thanks for the pic! [Heather Marie Buch ] Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile [jason and jill ] Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile ["Jason Gibbs (IMS/G-media)" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The release date for the new album - 11 October - looks fairly solid now. Music week lists the major releases for six weeks hence and is showing the album due on that date. Hopefully this means things won't slip any further. Richard PS Welcome Jesa. We all have high expectations of your Uncle's work! It will be interesting to compare notes with you after 11 October. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:06:42 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: jesa Aan: avalon@smoe.org Datum: zaterdag 28 augustus 1999 6:49 Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships >Now, can we let it go? I would like to enjoy and participate in the list >like everyone else. Welcome Jesa, When you wrote that you were listening to the new album I didn't react because I didn't believed it. But now even Colleen believes it..... Hope you feel free to gives us a detailed review of the songs you have. Do you see Rhett often? Has he told you more how they work on this album, musicians etc. etc? Do you have information about another self written album? Did you get material in the past that is not released or released in another mix? And do you have 'The sun has got his hat on' ? Thanks Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:43:54 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships - -----Original Message----- From: RODEISLRED@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships >Hey Jesa, > >I guess Unca Rhett will find this all a little tasteless, huh? > >Red > >PS. Don't worry, you can hide out at Decophile's. > Great idea, Red. I can start a sort of "Witness Protection Program" for all the people with connections who supply me out take material and so forth. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:16:33 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships - -----Original Message----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships >Welcome Jesa, >When you wrote that you were listening to the new album I didn't react >because I didn't believed it. But now even Colleen believes it..... I`d also like to add that we do respect you stance on distributing this material. No one would want you to jeopardize your or your family`s reputation. Hope you enjoy the list. Cheers. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:12:10 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: jesa Aan: avalon@smoe.org Datum: vrijdag 27 augustus 1999 22:08 Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album >SORRY! I don't have the titles of the tracks! > I have a tape of a working copy with several tracks that won't be >released!! Did you get the lyrics I and Colleen sent the last two weeks? I can sent them to you if you want them. We have the lyrics of fourteen of the fifteen songs so it must be easy for you to see what you already have. regards Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:28:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest wrote: > Welcome Jesa, > When you wrote that you were listening to the new album I didn't react > because I didn't believed it. But now even Colleen believes it..... Ah, I didn't say that I believed it. I just said I thought it wasn't very polite. > Hope you feel free to gives us a detailed review of the songs you have. > Do you see Rhett often? Has he told you more how they work on this album, > musicians etc. etc? Do you have information about another self written > album? > Did you get material in the past that is not released or released in another > mix? > And do you have 'The sun has got his hat on' ? I'd also love to find out this kind of stuff. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:37:53 EDT From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Asskissin' 101 Hey 'Why Say It It A Sentence When You Can Use Three Paragraphs' Martin, Don't you have a spell-check on your computer? I mean, 'collaberations'? 'Clusseau'? You are an intellectual, right? And NO MORE SOUNDSCAPES, MOODY or OTHERWISE! Only kidding, only kidding. But since I am the twin sister of Paul Thomas will you all start kissing MY ass? C'mon Jesa--put up or shut up. The dweebs are salivating over your info. AND WELCOME TO AVALON! Red Dear Jesa As a man not unfamiliar with the trumpeting of BF associations, however tenuous, I welcome you unreservedly to the list. Your Uncle is a central figure in the odyssey, up there with the original members, and Price, Puxley, Hall and Hubbard. What a blistering period blah blah BLAH Martini - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:16:35 -0700 From: "jesa" Subject: Re: [AVALON] WOW! what a response. Thank you. I am ashamed to say that I have never taken much interest in the particulars of the band, musicians, working etc...so I don't have much info to pass on. But I can tell you that the new album is 'faithful'. It even sounds like a vinyl sometimes! I'm sure that Rhett would really appriechiate your thoughtful insights into his work. I too believe that BF best work was done with Rhett. One of my favorite tracks on the new one is 'Miss Otis' "Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today......madame" jesa - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] >Dear Jesa > >As a man not unfamiliar with the trumpeting of BF associations, however >tenuous, I welcome you unreservedly to the list. Your Uncle is a central >figure in the odyssey, up there with the original members, and Price, >Puxley, Hall and Hubbard. What a blistering period with Avalon and Boys and >Girls, and all the other collaberations. Rhett understood Bryan's desire to >create a moody soundscape to reflect emotional turmoil. And give it an >attack, an edge, a sophistication not found on the reformation albums, the >kitsch Manifesto and MOR Flesh and Blood. And Rhett had the patience to put >up with the Maestro's seemingly endless knob-twiddling, unlike other great >Producers who despaired of the procrastination. My friend Jeff flogged Pat >Leonard a snooker table during the making of Bete Noire and Pat's ongoing >nervous breakdown was reminiscent of the Parisan Police Chief towards >Inspector Clusseau in the Panther movies ! > >Welcome Jesa. One question, (which you may not feel at liberty to answer.) >We have debated as to the style of As Things Go By. Is it done "straight" a >la "I'll See You Again" or are these standards reworked like the songs on >Taxi ? Are they faithful renditions or sonic makeovers ???! > >Martini > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:20:15 -0700 From: "jesa" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album Which track are you missing? Maybe I could help that way! It's not that I don't want to share the tape,I really do because I love it so much! It's the ethics of the whole thing! Thanks Jesa - -----Original Message----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: jesa >Aan: avalon@smoe.org >Datum: vrijdag 27 augustus 1999 22:08 >Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album > > >>SORRY! I don't have the titles of the tracks! >> I have a tape of a working copy with several tracks that won't be >>released!! > > >Did you get the lyrics I and Colleen sent the last two weeks? I can sent >them to you if you want them. We have the lyrics of fourteen of the fifteen >songs so it must be easy for you to see what you already have. > >regards >Han > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:17:21 -0400 (EDT) From: John Colquhoun Subject: Re: [AVALON] A local Toronto paper listed the upcoming new album releases for the next 3 months..........Yes ......there it was ......in black & white.......Bryan Ferry .....Oct.19............It seems everyone is releasing an album before the year 2000............. "next time is the best time.........we all know" JC - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:29:55 -0700 From: "jesa" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Han I don't have any past stuff but I used to get it as it was being worked on. My dad keeps it all and has an aray of Rhetts work. I'll see what I can find! I do have the tracks that won't be released on this album and we can talk about that after the album comes out! I don't see Rhett often because I live in Seattle! But whenever I go home I do. Thanks Jesa - -----Original Message----- From: Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: jesa >Aan: avalon@smoe.org >Datum: zaterdag 28 augustus 1999 6:49 >Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON]Loose Lips Sink Ships > > >>Now, can we let it go? I would like to enjoy and participate in the list >>like everyone else. > > >Welcome Jesa, >When you wrote that you were listening to the new album I didn't react >because I didn't believed it. But now even Colleen believes it..... >Hope you feel free to gives us a detailed review of the songs you have. >Do you see Rhett often? Has he told you more how they work on this album, >musicians etc. etc? Do you have information about another self written >album? >Did you get material in the past that is not released or released in another >mix? >And do you have 'The sun has got his hat on' ? > >Thanks >Han > > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:31:22 EDT From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile Greggie and Jesa, I just bought Peace at Last and have not had a chance to listen to it yet, but then I saw it mentioned on the list! Cool! I fell in love with their music in 1990 after listening to Hats. It's awesome to that the list members have more than one thing (other than BF/RM) in common! It's like my mom always said, "Great Minds Think Alike". Helene in CA - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:55:24 +0100 From: "Killip family" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences See here she comes....see what I mean.......... - ---------- > From: Martin Stockman > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences > Date: 25 August 1999 21:20 > > > > >Incidentally, where's Trisha now? > > > >David > > > Got hitched to an Italian Ferry lookalike and now lives near Verona. I think > she's gonna join the list soon. Which should be fun. > > Campari > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:51:40 PDT From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] uncle rhett jesa wrote: >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:25:45 -0700From: "jesa" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album >It's close family connections! >Rhett Davies is my uncle! There's no way your getting a copy of the tape! >But I can't wait for others to here it! I would if I could!! >"Miss Otis regrets she's unable (to let you play!)to lunch today...." i'm sorry ... but i have to add my $.02 here and agree wholeheartedly with colleen and others. yoiur post has really raised my 'ire'. my first thought was that this was very, very uncool. no offense -- glad mr. davies is your uncle, but that makes no difference at all. you did screw up and this is all i'll say about it; *i* shall not be the one to start some freaking flame war or other non-sensical 'issue'. the release is only two (less) months away, which is better than say, seven years, but still ... 'miss otis regrets' indeed. all the same, i suppose i shall say 'welcome'. or as another rhett said, "frankly my dear, i don't give a damn". no, i suppose the former ... later/peaces/ms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:17:31 -0700 From: "jesa" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I get it! jesa - -----Original Message----- From: mark shanahan To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 3:53 PM Subject: [AVALON] uncle rhett >jesa wrote: > >>Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:25:45 -0700From: "jesa" >>Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question about Track Listing on New Album > >>It's close family connections! >>Rhett Davies is my uncle! There's no way your getting a copy of the tape! >>But I can't wait for others to here it! I would if I could!! >>"Miss Otis regrets she's unable (to let you play!)to lunch today...." > >i'm sorry ... but i have to add my $.02 here and agree wholeheartedly with >colleen and others. yoiur post has really raised my 'ire'. my first >thought was that this was very, very uncool. no offense -- glad mr. davies >is your uncle, but that makes no difference at all. you did screw up and >this is all i'll say about it; *i* shall not be the one to start some >freaking flame war or other non-sensical 'issue'. the release is only two >(less) months away, which is better than say, seven years, but still ... >'miss otis regrets' indeed. > >all the same, i suppose i shall say 'welcome'. or as another rhett said, >"frankly my dear, i don't give a damn". no, i suppose the former ... > >later/peaces/ms > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:22:08 -0700 From: "jesa" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile Helene, Enjoy! Jesa - -----Original Message----- From: Helchat@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 10:33 AM Subject: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile >Greggie and Jesa, > >I just bought Peace at Last and have not had a chance to listen to it yet, >but then I saw it mentioned on the list! Cool! I fell in love with their >music in 1990 after listening to Hats. It's awesome to that the list members >have more than one thing (other than BF/RM) in common! It's like my mom >always said, "Great Minds Think Alike". > >Helene in CA > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: shinoballo@webtv.net (Jeff Pavlock) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Not that it matters but, i think we should welcome Jesa to the list and hope she can share some stories with us. It is unfair for us to ask her to "betray" her uncle. I say we just accept our jealousy(i am jealous) and hope she continues to post - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:58:25 -0700 From: "jesa" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I appriechiate that! But I (ashmedly!) don't have much to tell! I never met BF or payed much attention at the time! wishing I had!!! jesa - -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Pavlock To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Not that it matters but, i think we should welcome Jesa to the list and hope she can share some stories with us. It is unfair for us to ask her to "betray" her uncle. I say we just accept our jealousy(i am jealous) and hope she continues to post - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:05:45 +0930 From: Glen Lehman Subject: [AVALON] a cave of treasures I have enjoyed the emails from this list and am very thankful to Colleen and Hans for sending the lyrics of BF/RM. Moreover, I have read this list for months while tyring to finish a Phd on post-modern notions of civil society in cyber-space and have been so impressed with the sense of reciprocity together with the notion on non-traded relationships etc. Thus, one otiose note can be easily overlooked though I would love to hear more about the new album (does the notion of a Ferry jazz band reflect a return to the past? Who are the players? Is the Ferry of the 90's declaring the death of the 80's Ferry? After jazz is the ultimate form of improvisation in remaking and remodeling our history and being?) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:47:26 GMT From: ferryman@freeuk.com (Chris Turner) Subject: [AVALON] Reminiscences Martini reminisced: > > I swap pleasantries with the backing singer, Yannick. My slurred delivery does not >lend itself to romance. > Just as well Martin, you wouldn't want Yannick's irate one-legged Haitian husband after you... Chris - ------------------------------- Chris Turner ferryman@freeuk.com - ------------------------------- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:45:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: [AVALON] thanks for the pic! Thanks, JFRoxy. I had missed the original episode with Flangebracket/Pastiche, etc, but heard all about it. That cover is very nicely done. Someone spent a lot of time on it, for a hoax. Actually, it would be funny if someone were to submit it to a couple of music sites to see if they fell for it and started promoting the "Pastiche"album, or has this been done? Welcome to you, Jesa! That's an interesting name, does it mean anything? http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:12:40 -0400 From: Hoon Shin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile I also like the Hats although I wasn't crazy about it. But I do remember reading a review of the album in the Rolling Stones mag. and it mentioned how the band's sound is very Ferry-like. The long box the CD came in was odd in that it had quoted reviews from many artists highly remcommending Hats. One of the them was Phil Collins and another might have been Joni Mitchell. BTW, Virgin Megastore in Union Square (NYC) has all the newly released Roxys in stock except the first one. I bought FYP, CL, Stranded. I think it was $22 bucks a pop. Cds took a odd route getting here because it is made in England but package had the spine with Japanese packaging and now it is US. Embarassed to say this buy I also picked up newly remastered best ofs from REO Speedwagon and Air Supply. I have been picking up stuff from the 80s lately when they're remastered. hks On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 Helchat@aol.com wrote: > Greggie and Jesa, > > I just bought Peace at Last and have not had a chance to listen to it yet, > but then I saw it mentioned on the list! Cool! I fell in love with their > music in 1990 after listening to Hats. It's awesome to that the list members > have more than one thing (other than BF/RM) in common! It's like my mom > always said, "Great Minds Think Alike". > > Helene in CA > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:41:16 -0400 (EDT) From: jason and jill Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile > I just bought Peace at Last and have not had a chance to listen to it yet, > but then I saw it mentioned on the list! Cool! I fell in love with their > music in 1990 after listening to Hats. It's awesome to that the list members > have more than one thing (other than BF/RM) in common! It's like my mom > always said, "Great Minds Think Alike". You do have A Walk Across the Rooftops? Right? Hats is good, but Rooftops... You'll find the people on this list have a lot of musical tastes in common beyond BF/RM, particularly with bands that show some BF/RM influence. Heck, you'll find one or two of us that think that the single best Roxy LP is Gentlemen Take Polaroids. ;) Jason - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:50:42 +0100 From: "Jason Gibbs (IMS/G-media)" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off Topic - Blue Nile > >You'll find the people on this list have a lot of musical tastes in >common beyond BF/RM, particularly with bands that show some BF/RM >influence. Heck, you'll find one or two of us that think that the >single best Roxy LP is Gentlemen Take Polaroids. ;) > Absolutely! Jason (2) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:15:11 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences >Martini reminisced: > >> >> I swap pleasantries with the backing singer, Yannick. My slurred delivery >does not >>lend itself to romance. >> > >Just as well Martin, you wouldn't want Yannick's irate one-legged Haitian >husband after you... > > >Chris Considering I was legless it would have been an unfair fight ..... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #257 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest