From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #253 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, August 25 1999 Volume 04 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] Jas and sex ["Vicente Dobroruka" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself / Mr. Right Stuff [jspellman ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself [ShyGuy8119@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself [ShyGuy8119@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re:On The Road Video ["David Squires" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ["Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" ] Re: [AVALON] On The Road Video [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: Information service ["Richard" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself [ShyGuy8119@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself [ShyGuy8119@aol.com] [AVALON] Getcha, Getcha, Ya Yaas........ [jas2347@xsite.net] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ["Will Frechette" ] Re: [AVALON] Know Yourself, Know Vapor ["Will Frechette" ] Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ["Will Frechette" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:41:08 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences David Killip wrote > >Does anyone else have Roxy/Bryan gig reminiscences of which they are >particularly fond? Too many to mention. 1. The Royal Albert Hall on the Another Time Another Place first solo tour. We had seats up in the Gods. Towards the end of the gig, as the piano tinkles at the intro of These Foolish Things, a flunky announces to our section that Mr Ferry would be delighted if we would accompany him to the front of the stage. We charge down five flights of stairs to the front of the auditorium, directly under the dinner suit of the brillantined genius. From a whisper to a scream. The band included Phil and Paul but not Andy or Eddie. (Or that bald one whose name escapes me.) There was a string section and a brass section. As Bry sang "the scent of smouldering leaves, the wail of steamers" suddenly red roses seemed to be thrown from all quarters on to the stage. The podium was festooned. My girlfriend had tears rolling down her cheeks and I had a golf ball in my throat. Ferry lit a St Moritz and strolled off the stage. The outro didn't fade but that weird fusion of reggae and classical kept on chugging. Bry sloped back on, bow tie undone, sang the final verse again and sequed into Smoke Gets in Your Eyes, dancing around the flowers. Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:43:17 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reminiscences David Killip wrote > >Does anyone else have Roxy/Bryan gig reminiscences of which they are >particularly fond? Too many to mention. 1. The Royal Albert Hall on the Another Time Another Place first solo tour. We had seats up in the Gods. Towards the end of the gig, as the piano tinkles at the intro of These Foolish Things, a flunky announces to our section that Mr Ferry would be delighted if we would accompany him to the front of the stage. We charge down five flights of stairs to the front of the auditorium, directly under the dinner suit of the brillantined genius. From a whisper to a scream. The band included Phil and Paul but not Andy or Eddie. (Or that bald one whose name escapes me.) There was a string section and a brass section. As Bry sang "the scent of smouldering leaves, the wail of steamers" suddenly red roses seemed to be thrown from all quarters on to the stage. The podium was festooned. My girlfriend had tears rolling down her cheeks and I had a golf ball in my throat. Ferry lit a St Moritz and strolled off the stage. The outro didn't fade but that weird fusion of reggae and classical kept on chugging. Bry sloped back on, bow tie undone, sang the final verse again and sequed into Smoke Gets in Your Eyes, dancing around the flowers. Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:03:50 +0100 From: "David Squires" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:On The Road Video On 24 Aug 99, at 4:48, Heather Marie Buch wrote: > That's great trivia, David. Some things just stick with you like that. Did > he actually find it? Yes, someone in the front row gave it back. He lost a little of his usual poise as he struggled to get it back on his wrist! David - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:28:43 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:On The Road Video In a message dated 08/24/1999 3:18:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, killip.family@advsys.co.uk writes: << Does anyone else have Roxy/Bryan gig reminiscences of which they are particularly fond? >> Not a gig reminiscence perhaps but reading this post I just flashed that the opening band for Roxy on one of the two occasions that I saw them was the band Crack The Sky. Wish I could confirm that. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:11:34 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know Yourself, Know Vapor phew. - -----Original Message----- From: JVapor7@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 9:58 PM Subject: [AVALON] Know Yourself, Know Vapor >In a message dated 8/24/99 12:51:54 AM, asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu writes: > ><< I don't think there's a person on this list who doesn't want sex, >> > >I don't want sex. > >VAPOR > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:14:40 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself sweetie, I find it funny and really weird that of all lists to be on, someone like you should end up on a Roxy list! Have you ever listened to the lyrics??? Tim ( And with that, I think we should draw this topic to a close.) - -----Original Message----- From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself >In a message dated 8/23/99 10:24:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >aliebling@geocities.com writes: > ><< >Because all he wants is casual sex...and no, not everyone wants sex.... > > Which doesn't give anyone permission to rag on people who do! Seems like > a perfectly natural thing to want. Sex and love don't always have to be > interconnected, do they? >> > >Yes, they do...take a beter look at your self and your morals...or maybe >you're just a cold, heartless person whose only emotion is lust.... > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:04:27 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself In a message dated 08/24/1999 8:14:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tim63@earthlink.net writes: << sweetie, I find it funny and really weird that of all lists to be on, someone like you should end up on a Roxy list! Have you ever listened to the lyrics??? Tim ( And with that, I think we should draw this topic to a close.) >> I second that emotion! Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:26:39 -0700 From: "Vicente Dobroruka" Subject: [AVALON] Jas and sex Jas wrote: "SO SO SORRY FOLKS. I posted the wrong message. I was feeling rather mad at myself and did not think when I was posting that message. I was letting off some steam. A thousand apologies to everyone on this list. It was a BIG mistake. I meant no harm. My heart/feelings are truly not that way at all". So what? You have nothing to apologize for. And in my opinion we are all grown up enough to see beyond that manichaeism of love X sex. Both have merits on their own, can come together or not, depending on who you are and even more on the moment you are living. Our hero BF knew that better than anybody else, and surely had every kind of relation - which I think is healthy and only improves the *feelings* that ShyGuy has in such high esteem. Sorry folks, I think that such moralistic criticisms would be better placed in the Air Supply mailing list (if they do have one). Be well, Vicente (reminded that he had to play Love is the Drug all over again by ShyGuy) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:35:38 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself / Mr. Right Stuff ShyGuy8119@aol.com wrote: > << I just want the sex and the fleeting moments of "passion" if > and when they happen. >> > > Oh yeah I can tell you're REALLY a deep emotional person...if all you want is > quick sex, you should take another look at yourself before you cave into an > empty, heartless shell of a person...love is something that should be tried > at again...don't flatter yourself, "if and when they happen" are few and far > inbetween, don't think you're full of opportunities...how someone like you > can even call yourself a fan of Bryan Ferry...his evocative lyrics hold no > place for you! Why don't we make him burn his Roxy records? Ferry's music has never brought out lustful feelings in me, but rather inspires me to cuddle and spend quality time.....well, quality time doing The Nasty! Yeah! What's your real name, Dr. Laura? Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:43:23 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jas and sex Vicente Dobroruka wrote: > Sorry folks, I think that such moralistic criticisms would be better > placed in the Air Supply mailing list If there is one, then what am I doing here. Jim - I'm back on my feet and eager to be what you wanted - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:53:03 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself - -----Original Message----- From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself >...how someone like you >can even call yourself a fan of Bryan Ferry...his evocative lyrics hold no >place for you! Especially, "Love Is The Drug," a powerfully romantic song about true love. Hint: When he sings, "I say, go....she says yes....dim the lights....you can guess the rest," a lengthy discussion about the virtues of morality is *not* what you`re suppose to be "guessing." Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:13:44 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself (snip moralizing) >Especially, "Love Is The Drug," a powerfully romantic song about true >love. >Hint: When he sings, "I say, go....she says yes....dim the lights....you can >guess the rest," a lengthy discussion about the virtues of morality is *not* >what you`re suppose to be "guessing." OTOH i guess we could interpret 'dream home' as a paean to safe sex. very nineties, very proper. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:24:31 +0200 From: "H.R.Stil" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself Decophile wrote: > Especially, "Love Is The Drug," a powerfully romantic song about true > love. > Hint: When he sings, "I say, go....she says yes....dim the lights....you can > guess the rest," a lengthy discussion about the virtues of morality is *not* > what you`re suppose to be "guessing." > I say, go.............. get out of my way she says yes........ of course they listen to me Dim the lights..... time to watch my collection of Roxy Music slides? Oh dear, THAT is why all my (girl)friends thought of me as a cold fish? When ever these discussions flare up about love/sex/romance I always hear a Joe Jackson song in the back of my mind, Don't you know that it's different for girls???????? And didn't someone say something along the line off.... Man are willing to have a relationship in order to get sex and Women are willing to have sex in order get a relationship? Or is it the otherway around? Oh well never mind, A lot of emotional (sensual/sexual/romantic/heartbreak) moments in my life did happen with Roxy Music around, being it 'one month stands' or courtship/marriage. The following songs, in no particular order, are a good example of 'mixed' emotions, at least for me: Ladytron/If There Is Something/Seabreezes/Editions Of You/ Beauty Queen/In Every Dream Home a Heartache/The Bogus Man/For Your Pleasure/ Amazona/Psalm/A Song For Europe/Mother Of Pearl/All I Want Is You/Out Of The Blue/ Bitter - Sweet/Casanova/Love Is The Drug/Sentimental Fool/Could It Happend To Me/ Both Ends Burning/Just Another High Wow, I think I will make my personal 'See the emotional world of Me NoSo' CD! Man there are some great songs there! Put in some more classics and I'm going to be rich! GH/HH/GS Me NoSo - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:36:16 EDT From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself In a message dated 8/24/99 8:14:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tim63@earthlink.net writes: << sweetie, I find it funny and really weird that of all lists to be on, someone like you should end up on a Roxy list! Have you ever listened to the lyrics??? >> Please don't call me sweetie...I can listen to whoever I choose...and if YOU listened more carefully, you'd see that Bryan is always longing for love more than sex.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:38:53 EDT From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself In a message dated 8/24/99 10:51:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, decophile@pipeline.com writes: << >...how someone like you >can even call yourself a fan of Bryan Ferry...his evocative lyrics hold no >place for you! Especially, "Love Is The Drug," a powerfully romantic song about true love. Hint: When he sings, "I say, go....she says yes....dim the lights....you can guess the rest," a lengthy discussion about the virtues of morality is *not* what you`re suppose to be "guessing." >> Yeah and look how his attitude changed around the time of "Bride" all the way up to "Avalon"...he became more of a romantic...songs like "Love is the Drug," or songs to those lyrics, he didn't write anymore.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:23:01 +0100 From: "David Squires" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:On The Road Video On 24 Aug 99, at 8:17, Killip family wrote: > Do you also recall these two other incidents from that gig... Phil Manzanera > only used his Gibson Firebird (as on the FYP cover) for the opening number > (Manifesto) and thereafter played the whole gig with a Les Paul? Yes, that's right! It was very disappointing, as I've always had a thing about Firebirds. In fact I managed to speak to Phil after an 801 gig at Nottingham University in 1977 (or maybe '78, the Listen Now tour) and rather cheekily asked if, since he had a couple, he'd lend me one. The reply was no, very polite but equally firm! I also had a good chat with Bill MacCormick (bass player) afterwards. I got Paul Thompson's autograph too. I asked him if Roxy were reforming and he said "Wait and see, man" in the pure Geordie many of us would recognize from "Your Application's Failed". A wonderful drummer, not the most subtle I've seen, but he hit the drums hardest, no question! > and....in "Ain't That So" Andy Mackay was using a rattle type shaker to make > the clicking noise in the chorus and it broke; after having shaken it two or > three times and made no noise a clearly amused Andy threw it backstage with > an exaggerated "Oh What the Hell" look on his face! No, you have me there, I can't remember that. I do remember feeling slightly, well, pissed off really, because Bryan swept passed the few of us at the stage door declining our pleas for an autograph before getting into a Daimler. (IIRC) The rest of the band had to make do with a Range Rover. God, that was 20 years ago... (shuffles away suffused in middle-aged mumbling and Malamudesque outbursts, my youth, my lost youth...) Tara David - -- David Squires Wimbotsham Norfolk UK - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:41:24 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself ShyGuy8119@aol.com wrote: > Yeah and look how his attitude changed around the time of "Bride" all the way > up to "Avalon"...he became more of a romantic...songs like "Love is the > Drug," or songs to those lyrics, he didn't write anymore.... > > What about his videos? Ever seen Limbo or Your Painted Smile?He depicts women as sex objects. Certainly not a spokesman for the feminist movement. He's a dirty dog in the most suave and sultry way that only he is and I love him for it. I think your all wet. Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:40:29 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself Victor wrote: >OTOH I guess we could interpret 'dream home' as a paean to safe sex. very >nineties, very proper. Yes , nice blowjob in that one. BTW 1: If he is a Shy Guy I'm autistic BTW2: Vapor have learned his lessons: If you don't get what you want, want what you get BTW3: Can't wait for Bryan's new Jas album BTW4: 'Don't talk about it, show it' BTW5: Dim the lights you can't guess the rest: someone stole my watch! BTW6: More wrong postings please Regards Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:42:27 +0100 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] On The Road Video David (Squires)....re: your recollection of BF at De Montfort in May 1979.... this is quite incredible...after the De Montfort gig I stood at the stage door in a crowd of Ferry hunters only to have the great man breeze straight past into the Daimler. Three or four nights later I didn't make the same mistake and after the Apollo gig my friend and I waited in the lane via which the Ferrymobile must make its exit. As the limo pulled out, my mate quite literally jumped in front of the car and sprawled over the bonnet (hood for US colleagues) causing the car to stop. I took advantage of this to bang on the window, rewarded by BF winding the window down! I said something breathtakingly crass like "That was a great gig".. BF said "Thanks a lot...I'm off for a cuppa (honestly) and Daimler shoots off into the Mancunian darkness. I concede that this was not the coolest or most Ferryesque behaviour for me to adopt but it is moments such as this (and I was an impetuous 20 year old at the time) that e-mail postings of two decades later are made! Incidentally, your Phil nostalgia was superb...more please..(I was looking at a Firebird in a music shop in Liverpool last Saturday!) Martin... your "These Foolish Things" memory...exceptional..thanks for posting that, I loved every word of it. David Killip, News at Ten, lost down memory lane - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:08:36 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] On The Road Video I remember Tuesday 8th May 1979, myself and my two friends sneaked into the circle of the Glasgow Apollo theatre and watched the Roxy road crew build the "Manifesto" stage show, remember, the pyramids et al? When the roadies had finished they politely asked us to leave, saying that the band were coming in to do the sound check. Next minute The "Great" Paul Thompson appears on stage and starts larking around with the road crew, who were mockingly shouting "Bryan, Bryan," just as we moved round to the stage door Andy and Phil appeared in a white Jaguar, we got their autographs, some pics. and chatted for a few minutes. BF didn't do the sound check, but we heard the band do "Editions" and "Angel Eyes" with Gary Tibbs on lead vocals! The following evening we went to the Albany Hotel and met the great man with the rest of the guys and got some more pictures taken.......nostalgia bedamned, 20 years ago, eh? JF PS we also saw those two pretentious arseholes,Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox...dreadful! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:40:11 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself - -----Original Message----- From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself >Yeah and look how his attitude changed around the time of "Bride" all the way >up to "Avalon"...he became more of a romantic...songs like "Love is the >Drug," or songs to those lyrics, he didn't write anymore.... Fair enough. Nobody will dispute you taste in that phase of Ferry`s song writing but be aware that the Ferry who wrote Love Is The Drug is the Ferry many of us admire. Be aware also that we respect and accept everyone *as* they are.....even you. It`s one thing to challenge someone`s opinion but putting down people because of their opinion is unacceptable. Gene (Who won`t put up with that self-righteous/holier-that-thou crap here in bible belt central and certainly won`t on this mail list.) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:43:24 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself In a message dated 08/24/1999 11:28:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Stil@dia.eur.nl writes: << And didn't someone say something along the line off.... Man are willing to have a relationship in order to get sex and Women are willing to have sex in order get a relationship? >> And didn't Billy Crystal say that women need a reason to have sex while men only need a place? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:53:52 +0100 From: "Richard" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Information service See below for Jim Lawn's latest newsletter. Richard THE BRYAN FERRY & ROXY MUSIC INFORMATION SERVICE P0 BOX 829 DUMBARTON G821BG SCOTLAND NEWSLETTER 12- AUTUMN '99 At the time of writing I'm trying to summarise all the activity between now and the end of the year. Some dates may change by a week or two but essentially the following is as accurate as I can get it at present. Bryan Ferry "As Time Goes By" (Virgin Records) Set for release on 11 October, Bryan's new album features unique re-interpretations of songs from the 1930's. The track listing is as follows: As Time Goes By, The Way You Look Tonight, Easy Living, I'm In The Mood for Love, Where or When, When Somebody Thinks You're Wonderful, Sweet & Lovely, Miss Otis Regrets, Time On My Hands, Lover Come Back, Falling In Love Again, Love Me Or Leave Me, You Do Something To Me, Just One Of Those Things and September Song. The album is produced by Bryan and Rhett Davies. The title track will be released as a single on 18 October. There is every chance that Bryan will tour later in the year but, as yet, we don't have specific dates. It looks like he will start in America in October, Europe in November with the UK following in December. Roxy Mnsic and Bryan Ferry Remastered Virgin have just announced a major remastering of the Roxy / Ferry back catalogue by Bob Ludwig. All of the discs will initially be released in deluxe card sleeves, faithfully reproducing the -original vinyl pressings. There will be nothing added to what was the original pressing of the album on vinyl. The packaging will be similar to recent re-issues in Japan from Genesis, the Sex Pistols and Queen. As soon as these sell out there will be the standard jewel cases with improved artwork and lyric books. The releases have benefited from the latest remastering technology from Bob Ludwig on HDCD (High Definition Compatible Digital) discs. The first set of releases are as follows on Roxy Music (Cat. No. Roxy CD.1) For Your Pleasure, Stranded, Country Life, Siren. On 4th October the following albums will be released: Viva! Roxy Music, Manifesto, Flesh & Blood, Avalon, Heart Still Beating. Bryan's solo catalogue will also be released using the same packaging and digital remastering. On 27 September the following albums will be released: These Foolish Things, Another Time Another Place, Let's Stick Together, In Your Mind, The Bride Stripped Bare. To conclude the series the final four solo albums will be released as follows: Boys and Girls, Bete Noire, Taxi, Mamouna (4 October). In the autumn, Virgin America will also be releasing "More Than This "as the first official 'best of' in the States for over ten years. The track listing is broadly the same as the UK issue but the front sleeve will be different. It is also anticipated that the final track on the original pressing "Your Painted Smile" will be replaced with "I'm In The Mood For Love" from the new solo album. Please keep in contact with me by post re. Phil Manzanera's new album and re-issues, Andy Mackay's re-issues and possible new album as well as Bryan's forthcoming tour which should start in America at the beginning of November. Unfortunately, due to several phone calls late at night when my children are sleeping, I'm no longer taking calls unless you send a letter and telephone number for me to call back if appropriate. JIM LAWN - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:35:26 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Information service In a message dated 24/08/99 20:00:46 GMT, you write: You heard it all here first :- J.O'B. (one step ahead) <> - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:05:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest wrote: > BTW6: More wrong postings please > Always a pleasure. In that case, I'll tell y'all about the Bryan Ferry dream I had last night, (It was actually very tame). I went back to work at the Hollywood record store I had worked in as an undergrad. My boss wanted to show me this great new Bryan Ferry website (which he said was "offcial"), so he took out his laptop and fired it up. It was the most beautiful website I had ever seen! Page after page of brilliant animation, from colorful renaissance designs, a la Raphael's Galatea, or the paintings at Pompeii, to vaudeville scenes. It had probably been done in Director or Photoshop, because it had that "high-tech-baroque" look that Adobe or Macromedia are good at creating. It was all laid out like a game, where you had to go deeper into a labyrinth until you found Bryan Ferry. His music was playing all the while, getting louder and louder. Finally, I got to the center, where Ferry was supposed to be. It was another Director video, this time of a beautiful woman being twirled around and around on some romantic-looking vaudeville stage. I followed the arm that twirled her, expecting to see Ferry, but it was an imposter, some fat guy with glasses, in a tux, with his hair arranged like Bryan Ferry's! I was beside myself when I realized I had spent all that time on this game only to be cheated by a dumpy Oz! Ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:03:56 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself Yes, dearie, ( is that better?), of course you can listen to whoever you want, just as I can sleep with whoever I want without being moralised to by you. And if YOU listened to Ferry's lyrics you wouldn't be able to say anything quite as luminously dumb as you do. Unless you think YOUR PAINTED SMILE or I PUT A SPELL or THE MAIN THING are lerv songs. Tim - -----Original Message----- From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself >In a message dated 8/24/99 8:14:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >tim63@earthlink.net writes: > ><< sweetie, I find it funny and really weird that of all lists to be > on, someone like you should end up on a Roxy list! > Have you ever listened to the lyrics??? >> > >Please don't call me sweetie...I can listen to whoever I choose...and if YOU >listened more carefully, you'd see that Bryan is always longing for love more >than sex.... > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:07:03 EDT From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself In a message dated 8/24/99 12:49:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jspellman@banet.net writes: << > Yeah and look how his attitude changed around the time of "Bride" all the way > up to "Avalon"...he became more of a romantic...songs like "Love is the > Drug," or songs to those lyrics, he didn't write anymore.... > > What about his videos? Ever seen Limbo or Your Painted Smile?He depicts women as sex objects. Certainly not a spokesman for the feminist movement. He's a dirty dog in the most suave and sultry way that only he is and I love him for it. I think your all wet. >> And have you ever heard songs like "Girl of My Best Friend" or "Dance Away"? Surely the melancholy side of Bryan is what dominates him, he is broken over love and loss...he's a romantic at heart...you want to see a sex obsessed "dirty dog," take a look at Mick Jagger! That's why Jerry left Bryan...he was too sweet of a guy for her and she couldn't appreciate that! I think YOU'RE all wet.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:10:42 EDT From: ShyGuy8119@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself In a message dated 8/24/99 7:13:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tim63@earthlink.net writes: << Yes, dearie, ( is that better?), of course you can listen to whoever you want, just as I can sleep with whoever I want without being moralised to by you. >> Like who would want to sleep with YOU with that attitude of yours??? If you're as big a BF fan as you say, why don't you take a lesson from him and try to be a gentleman??? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:30:24 -0500 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Getcha, Getcha, Ya Yaas........ Wow! I seem to have done it again. Leave it to me to get up close and personal. By the way this was NOT my intent. My posting was to someone else and in my haste forgot to send it to the right receipient. I did not realize my error until last night and by then it was too late. Well if anything it did give a little glimpse (not much though) as to my state of mind at that point. Yes, I have been burnt by "love". I do not deny that. I'm going thru a period right now where I am detached from all of it. Yes, it hurts to pick one's self up off the floor after what you desired was not really what it was supposed to be. I feel drawn to Bryan's/ Roxy's more melancholy songs in that vein. Yes, the love songs are quite beautiful, my favorite being More than This. I also feel the emotions of End of the Line and Bittersweet ( I especially play those at those down times). Oh yes- In every Dream Home a Heartache (no I do not have an inflatable dolly!). I feel the longing for answers in Can't let go and the wanting to numb the senses of Both Ends Burning. Yes, Bryan has spoken to me and has helped me get over those rough moments-as I'm sure the rest of you at certain times as well. This is why we are still have an atrraction to him even though at times it appears our pleas to him ( when's the next release,reunion, tour,et.al.. ) falls on deaf ears. In this case I don't mind being "spurned"- the feelings/memories are to stong to let go. Now as for subscribing to a sex addiction list, well that's not the case I am curious though. Thanks for the laugh Martin. :) I won't go into particulars as to why I responed to that person ( I was lurking on a chat line and came across a thread about love,lust, and kinky sex and can they co-exist)but it just struck a nerve. It was not my intention to veer off the course from to what brings us all together, but I guess taking an occassional sidetrip can be illumninating. I've taken many a trip off the main road and am richer for it. If I hadn't taken a side trip to discover Roxy, I might never had gotten to this list and all of you. Thanks to all who came to my defense. Jas (Heartbroken but not Heartless in Chicago) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:30:37 -0500 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself Hey I haven't checked my mail in a few days and must have missed something...but...sex, yes please, may I have another. I'm always nervous having sex, all that pressure of performing well, especially when there's another person in the room. Will PS. all these new Bryan Ferry developements are really very exciting - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Because all he wants is casual sex...and no, not everyone wants sex.... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:31:30 -0500 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know Yourself, Know Vapor ...must have just had it Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: > << I don't think there's a person on this list who doesn't want sex, >> > > I don't want sex. > > VAPOR - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:33:16 -0500 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself let's see...interconnected...is this a trick question? Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alison Brown > >Because all he wants is casual sex...and no, not everyone wants sex.... > > Which doesn't give anyone permission to rag on people who do! Seems like > a perfectly natural thing to want. Sex and love don't always have to be > interconnected, do they? > > Alison - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:48:51 -0500 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Know yourself - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Marie Buch > game, where you had to go deeper into a labyrinth until you found Bryan > Ferry. His music was playing all the while, getting louder and louder. > Finally, I got to the center, where Ferry was supposed to be. It was > another Director > video, this time of a beautiful woman being twirled around and around on > some romantic-looking vaudeville stage. I followed the arm that twirled > her, expecting to see Ferry, but it was an imposter, some fat guy with > glasses, in a tux, with his hair arranged like Bryan Ferry's! I was beside > myself when I realized I had spent all that time on this game only to be > cheated by a dumpy Oz! Then all of a sudden Will jumped out, handcuffed me and forced me to make wild passionate, animalistic, love for many hours. It was beautiful, and I remember thinking I hope my new hubby never finds out this darkest of all my secrets. > Ciao, > > Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #253 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest