From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #248 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, August 20 1999 Volume 04 : Number 248 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] original artists As Time Goes By [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Eno [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] MIDI files [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Single/Tour [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Single/Tour [shinoballo@webtv.net (Jeff Pavlock)] Re: [AVALON] Re-issues ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Remasters [Miles Goosens ] [AVALON] web address [Glen Lehman ] RE: [AVALON] web address ["Karen Norton" ] [AVALON] Interesting Link ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Remasters ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] As time goes by...... [Heather Marie Buch ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:26:54 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: RE: [AVALON] original artists As Time Goes By >Personally, I'm interested as to what webmistress Kicki (never, I >repeat, never to receive my picture and steal my soul) thinks of the >nouveau-Taxi impression we have of As Time Goes By. All I can say is is >that it's a very apt title for Ferry -- a lot of time does go by as we >wait for his next activity, hoping it's a departure from Tatler >best-dresser lists (on which I understand Ms. Kicki would also >feature). >Always shaken, never stirred >Neil I'm looking forward to this album a great deal. I think he's capable of doing a stylish job, but I pray to God that this won't be Taxi number 2. What Mr Ferry needs is a very stern producer... Alles klar, nicht war? /Kicki G - a week in Cologne does wonders for one's German - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:17:21 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy v/d Geest" Subject: [AVALON] Lyrics: Time On My Hands TIME ON MY HANDS Harold Adamson / Mack Gordon / Vincent Youmans Time on my hands, you in my arms Nothing but love in view Then if you fall, once and for all I'll see my dreams come true Moments to spare With someone you care to One love affair for two And so with time on my hands And you in my arms And love in my heart all for you - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:09:32 -0400 From: "Angel Colon" Subject: [AVALON] Remastered CDs Okay I'm a total spazmo for catching on a bit late, but could someone please tell me how I can order the remastered RM cds? I live in NYC and cannot find them in any of the major record stores, or online. HELP!! Angel - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:25:29 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno At 01.43 +0200 99-06-26, Decophile wrote: >What exactly is the deal with "My Life....Ghost"? I received a taped copy as >a trade (a mercy trade actually) about a year ago and was told it was a >recalled version having something to do with a suit filed by some minister? >He wasn`t real clear about it and I never really understood what he was >talking about? Or was it "My Squelchy Life" I`m thinking of? Anyway, I >wasn`t really impressed with either. Yes, Byrne and Eno used voices without permisson. You'll find more at: http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/brian_eno/MLITBOGl.html Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** But dead finks don't talk too well They've got a shaky sense of diction It's not so much a living hell It's just a dying fiction. Brian Eno attacks Bryan Ferry after he'd split from Roxy Music 1973. Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:51:55 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] MIDI files In a message dated 19/08/99 00:50:05 GMT, you write: << the only MIDI to be found of Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry is "Avalon"....shame really..... >> I have Avalon, Let's Stick Together, Jealous Guy (Roxy Version) & Love Is The Drug. I bought these, I have several others that I did myself. I used to play in a duo in pubs and hotels and I had a few Roxy/Ferry songs in the set. :- Spell On You, Oh Yeah Dance Away to name a few. regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:55:13 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Single/Tour In a message dated 18/08/99 23:52:29 GMT, you write: << OK, now I'm confused. Or does this mean there is a new best of (honestly, how many of these dead horses can they beat) which will include As Time Goes By (single version)? >> This is a USA release only as More Than This Wasn't released ther in 1995 Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:39:04 -0400 (EDT) From: shinoballo@webtv.net (Jeff Pavlock) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Single/Tour The funny thing is that I picked up an import of More Than This a while ago for six bucks. Is "As Time Goes By" the only additional song? I also hope Ferry's new one isn't Taxi2. This is his weakest effort. A "stern" producer would definitely help. I always wondered what would happen if Daniel Lanois ever gave BF a shot. Jeff - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:04:34 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-issues I just came across this in the latest Goldmine. Music Machine (www.musicmachine.com) is taking advanced orders for the remastered Bryan Ferry CDs with "special packaging" (whatever that means) They list: Another time, Bette Noir, Boys & Girls, Bride Stripped Bare, In Your Mind, Let`s Stick Together, Mamouna, These Foolish Things, Taxi and give a release date of 9/14/99. $22 each......ouch! Gene - -----Original Message----- From: Andy Cooper To: avalon Date: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 1:50 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re-issues >If you are thinking of buying the re-issues, here are the results of a >quick price survey in London shops. > >HMV and Tower at Piccadilly both asking 12.99 a piece with about four of >each title on the shelves. No special push or promotion. > >Virgin Megastore at Tottenham Crt Rd asking 10.99 each and about ten of >each title in the racks but also the first four titles on a listening post >- and yes they do sound good - esp the first album - gone are the 'thin' >vocals of my old copy replaced by a sumptuous velvety mix. And some of the >old analog distortion on Country Life has been removed - they sound very >'sweet'. > >Our Price at Victoria had no stock and said "we only stock new releases >here, but we can order them in or you can get them at a bigger store". >They are asking 9.99 according to the 'oik' who looked it up on the >computerised till. > >So that's it - buy wisely and enjoy > >Andy Cooper, News at Ten, Battersea > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:55:33 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] Remasters At 02:25 PM 8/17/99 -0400, JObinv01@aol.com wrote: >The walk up to the car at the start of Love Is The Drug is so clear and free >of hiss that you can see what colour of shoes he's wearing. > >I look foward to the next 5 While John is certainly dead-on as to the sonic quality of these reissues, STRANDED is once again marred by a needless reoccurrence of a @#$!ing mastering goof. Today I got the CD package at the post office, ripped it open in the car, pulled out STRANDED, plopped it in the car CD player, fast-forwarded to track 8, ran the CD back about 15 seconds to the closing of track 7, and... ...once again, those responsible for the mastering have completely separated "Mother of Pearl" and "Sunset." Grrrrrr. For those of you who may not have STRANDED or may have only owned STRANDED in a CD pressing with the same goof: On the original album, the end of "Mother of Pearl" (accompaniment falls away, vocal tracks repeat "Mother of Pearl, I wouldn't trade you for another girl") overlaps with the first few notes of "Sunset." This is a small thing, but it's this sonic detail that makes those closing two tracks flow so well. And it's exactly this kind of small detail that I forked over the import $$$ to get. And more infuriating, it's something that could have been caught *by actually listening to the frigging LP* before finishing the CD master!!! Out of the various Roxy CDs with "Mother of Pearl"/"Sunset" that I've owned, here's how they: STRANDED (UK CD, purchased 1987 on London trip): gets the segue right, has crap '80s catalog CD sound. STRANDED (US CD, c. 1989-90): much better sound than previous UK CD, but totally separates "Mother of Pearl" and "Sunset." THE THRILL OF IT ALL (UK box set, 1994): glorious sound *and* gets the segue dead-on! STRANDED (UK deluxe CD, 1999): well, you just read it. I'm happy to have the five CDs in nice packaging and remastered sound, but I can't help but be miffed about this. later, Miles ====================================================== Miles Goosens UNlimited edition R. Stevie Moore CDs now available! http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal website http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France ====================================================== - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:40:14 +0930 From: Glen Lehman Subject: [AVALON] web address Did anyone keep the web address where the remasters can be purchased for the magnificent $8 or $9 US......please keep me posted about concerts in the US as I would like to visit (Nurse Kim can you get me a ticket in Chicago?) with thanks - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:13:02 -0400 From: "Karen Norton" Subject: RE: [AVALON] web address I think it's www.absound.com. Correct me if I'm wrong. K > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Glen Lehman > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 8:10 PM > To: 'avalon!!' > Subject: [AVALON] web address > > > Did anyone keep the web address where the remasters can be > purchased for the > magnificent $8 or $9 US......please keep me posted about concerts > in the US as > I would like to visit (Nurse Kim can you get me a ticket in Chicago?) > > with thanks > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:31:16 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: [AVALON] Interesting Link Here`s a link to a site claiming to show a piece of art created by Bryan on behalf of "War Child"(?) http://www.warchild.org/artists/milestones/03.html - -----Original Message----- From: Miles Goosens To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Remasters >At 02:25 PM 8/17/99 -0400, JObinv01@aol.com wrote: > >The walk up to the car at the start of Love Is The Drug is so clear and free > >of hiss that you can see what colour of shoes he's wearing. > > > >I look foward to the next 5 > >While John is certainly dead-on as to the sonic quality of these reissues, >STRANDED is once again marred by a needless reoccurrence of a @#$!ing >mastering goof. Today I got the CD package at the post office, ripped it >open in the car, pulled out STRANDED, plopped it in the car CD player, >fast-forwarded to track 8, ran the CD back about 15 seconds to the closing >of track 7, and... > >...once again, those responsible for the mastering have completely >separated "Mother of Pearl" and "Sunset." > >Grrrrrr. > >For those of you who may not have STRANDED or may have only owned STRANDED >in a CD pressing with the same goof: On the original album, the end of >"Mother of Pearl" (accompaniment falls away, vocal tracks repeat "Mother of >Pearl, I wouldn't trade you for another girl") overlaps with the first few >notes of "Sunset." This is a small thing, but it's this sonic detail that >makes those closing two tracks flow so well. And it's exactly this kind of >small detail that I forked over the import $$$ to get. And more >infuriating, it's something that could have been caught *by actually >listening to the frigging LP* before finishing the CD master!!! > >Out of the various Roxy CDs with "Mother of Pearl"/"Sunset" that I've >owned, here's how they: > >STRANDED (UK CD, purchased 1987 on London trip): gets the segue right, has >crap '80s catalog CD sound. > >STRANDED (US CD, c. 1989-90): much better sound than previous UK CD, but >totally separates "Mother of Pearl" and "Sunset." > >THE THRILL OF IT ALL (UK box set, 1994): glorious sound *and* gets the >segue dead-on! > >STRANDED (UK deluxe CD, 1999): well, you just read it. > >I'm happy to have the five CDs in nice packaging and remastered sound, but >I can't help but be miffed about this. > >later, > >Miles > > >====================================================== >Miles Goosens > >UNlimited edition R. Stevie Moore CDs now available! >http://www.rsteviemoore.com > >My personal website >http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles > >"If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still > a stupid thing." > -- Anatole France >====================================================== > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:33:51 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Remasters - -----Original Message----- From: Miles Goosens To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Remasters >...once again, those responsible for the mastering have completely >separated "Mother of Pearl" and "Sunset." > >Grrrrrr. > I`ve done my fair share of re-master bashing in the past, so I know how you feel. Sometimes it`s the little things that are overlooked that can really blow the whole project. To this day, if I want to listen to Dark Side Of The Moon, I have to pull out my 25 year old vinyl copy. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:39:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] As time goes by...... On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 jas2347@xsite.net wrote: > Hello to newly married lady: > :-) > Side note to other Avalonians. The Uptown Thearte, before it was > shuttered in 1981(?) was the site of many concerts. One of those > concerts featured Roxy Music during the 1979 Manifesto tour (Bryan had > the red leather outfit on during the concert). I attended that one and > it was after the concert that I had my "infamous" run in with Bryan in > the back of his limo! I still have flashes of my brush with "greatness" > as I pass the theatre everyday on my way to catch the train to work ( > Heather -the CTA Red line to the Loop.) I remember The Red Line. It was our only link between downtown and Hyde Park (where I lived) when I was there. Of course it always dropped you off WAY too far east to be a safe route home. If it was after the #1 stopped running, you were SOL. > One final thought. As the rock and roll audiences start to get older, I > noticed that some of them seem to forget how to dance. Some just stand > there, with beer or ciggies in hand, and just stare at the band. Yes > this was an audience with some age on it, I even saw some grannies in > the back. I on the other hand dance ( even some pogoing!). I always > have and hopefully always will. I appreciate that fact that the band, in That's funny that you have that impression too, of the audience growing old around you (of course *we* couldn't possibly be growing old could we) that's my delusion. It's funny, when I was a kid and my parents were going to middle-aged bars like "The Hop" to see doo-wop shows with all their mature friends from the "doo-wop society", I thought they must realize that they are older people reliving their 50's past, and that's what we must look like now, but of course you never feel like that at the excitement of a show, even if it is someone like Blondie or the Ramones, who have been performing for about 30 years now! > this case Blondie, is up there giving it all it can and laying down > great grooves hoping to get the audience involved. I wonder what they > were thinking as they were watching the audience. Maybe it's just the > Chicago audiences. That could be true. Chicagoans are pretty reserved compared to say, Southern Californians! > Jas > 44(and not much more) and STILL rockin Good for you. My dad's 57, LIVES for music and seems younger to me than a lot of the young married people I work with. I hope to end up like him. Ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:49:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Remasters > Grrrrrr. > > For those of you who may not have STRANDED or may have only owned STRANDED > in a CD pressing with the same goof: On the original album, the end of > "Mother of Pearl" (accompaniment falls away, vocal tracks repeat "Mother of > Pearl, I wouldn't trade you for another girl") overlaps with the first few > notes of "Sunset." This is a small thing, but it's this sonic detail that > makes those closing two tracks flow so well. And it's exactly this kind of > small detail that I forked over the import $$$ to get. And more Guess I'll just keep my old album copy of Stranded that I bought for $1.99. It has that segue, and I'm nowhere near rich enough to start replacing all my used LP's with CD's now, much less my hard-earned CD's with remastered CD's. Besides, if I'm going to spend money on a CD, I'm going to spend it on a new band that I haven't heard yet. Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #248 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest