From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #210 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, July 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 210 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] [Avalon] A Sort Of CD Tree Guidline ["Han Snijders" ] Re: [AVALON] [Avalon] A Sort Of CD Tree Guidline ["Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] [Avalon] A Sort Of CD Tree Guidline Well done Gene, >"This will prove a brave kingdom to me, >Where I shall have my contract for nothing." >Shakespeare, "the merchant of Venice" But: 1: is there any "control" of people who distribute the copies? Did everyone in the past get his copy? 2: I guess in the US the sending of a stamped package will work but what to do with two or three Australians and a Japanese Avalonian? In Europe it's not possible(only if you distribute in your own country) In that case you must sent money for the media and the poststamps. But who is the one that take the risk? The one who wants the copy or the masterholder? I think it must be the one who ask.... but then the money is lost. The master holder says I don't sent a copy. The own who ask says I did sent it. There we've got a problem. 3 Is it in your meaning to give all the newcomers a chance to get the things from past trees? In that case the master holders must do it for more years or you have to start the tree all over. 4 How do we inform newcomers? Regards Han > THE CD / TAPE / VIDEO TREE GUIDELINE > >"This will prove a brave kingdom to me, >Where I shall have my music for nothing." >Shakespeare, "The Tempest" > > >INTRODUCTION: > >Welcome to the Avalon list. This mail list is devoted to Roxy Music and >related artist and bands. If you give this list a chance, I think you`ll >find that it has a lot to offer in the way of Roxy Music news and items of >interest. There are many music related mail lists available on the Internet >but I`m sure you`ll find the Avalon list is special and different. > >One thing that we offer that is of interest to many people is a >selection of rare and unique material not available to the mainstream public >(read into this bootlegs) by way of out "CD/Video trees." >The Roxy Music bootlegs distributed via our "trees" are aimed at people who >love listening to Roxy, want to hear interesting, good Roxy, and groan at >the hint of another damn no-end-in-sight CD box set that seem to re-hash the >same old studio cuts, "b- sides", and "special mixes" over and over. >Bootlegs offer a unique glimpse of the band on their natural turf....the >stage. >Please keep in mind that no one on the Avalon list is responsible for the >existence of bootlegs, we merely have access to them, enjoy them and wish to >spread the music. I`ve met many people on this mail list who were stunned by >the brilliance of a certain song done live on a bootleg and reevaluated >their whole attitude to them. > >But first and foremost, the Avalon list is NOT just about bootlegs and >anyone focusing >only on this subject is missing out on some often stimulating, sometimes >hilarious and most interesting people. > > >WHAT A "TREE" IS AND HOW IT`S DONE: > > >A "tree", as in Tape/Video/Cd "tree", is unique material relating to Roxy >Music which is compiled by a person(s) and offered to the list. If enough >interest is generated, then list members capable of producing CD-R and tape >copies (known as "Master Holders") will contact the person with the >material. A number of "masters" are made and sent to a number of "Master >Holders". When the "Master Holders" are ready, they will announce it >to the list and anyone interested in a copy would simply post a request to >the list copies will go out to those interested. Hence, "a tree." >Typically, anyone wanting a copy will need to send the appropriate number of >blank media (video tapes, audio cassette tapes or CD-R) and a stamped, >addressed bubble-lined shipping package. The "Master Holder" will make your >copy and send it to you. That`s it. > >THE RULES: >1) A CD/Tape/Video (T/V/CD) Tree can only be initiated by a person(s) >possessing enough Roxy related material to put (at least) a tape together. >2) NO ONE CAN VOLUNTEER ANOTHER`S MATERIAL. >3) In no way is a profit made by anyone initiating or taking part as >a master holder. They will always be done for the cost of the media and >shipping only. > >WHAT`S AVAILABLE: >Past trees have included: >Brian Ferry-Wolfhampton(?) '95 with Robin Trower >The Stockholm show of 01.27.76, 2CDs, Excellent Stereo >'75 New York/London show, 1CD Excellent Stereo >Various BBC broadcast '72-'74, 1CD Excellent Stereo >'74 Boston show, 2CD Very good+ mono audience recording >Editions Of Roxy- A compilation of 15 Roxy songs covered by other >bands. > >WHAT`S IN THE FUTURE: >A Video collection. >Another CD of live recordings from the '80`s and a recent Ferry show. > > >----------------------------------------------END-------------------------- - - >----------------------------------- > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:16:42 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Muzik for Airports Heard the muzak version of "Oh, Yeah" in the Norfolk, Viginia airport yesterday afternoon while waiting for a plane. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:16:45 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] All Hail Andy! In a message dated 7/4/99 11:07:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, decophile@pipeline.com writes: << Lo-Fi quality or not, this is the only chance for the rest of us to hear this performance. So you can of course count on me to make CD-R copies for those who want one on this side of the pond. This also goes for the other CDs mentioned recently. But let it be known that I will only participate if this is distributed for FREE inside the list. What list members do with it outside of the list is their business. >> And I'll make tape copies for anyone who wants it that way. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:41:44 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm sorry to have missed it! In a message dated 7/6/99 9:58:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hpropes@ureach.com writes: << So let's see, who are the midwestern Avalonians so far? Looks like it's: Jas Mark Shanahan Kim Shell Heather >> How about Appalachian AVALONians? Any besides me in West Virginia? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:46:19 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Look here! -Reply In a message dated 7/6/99 4:53:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KShell@corphqpo.hyatt.com writes: << Ain't she cute?!? >> Maybe the AVALON photoset can be re-christened "Babes and Hunks" in homage to the Maestro's "Boys and Girls"? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:49:59 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Kicki's web site In a message dated 7/6/99 5:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hpropes@ureach.com writes: << From the looks of Kicki's site, you'd think the girls are taking over Avalon! Arnie is pretty well outnumbered. >> Hey, do you hear me complaining??? Actually, c'mon Bahi, Gene, Erik S., John O'Brien and all you others. In the words of Shakespeare: "Stand and unfold yourself". Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:48:44 -0500 From: Victor Hastings Subject: Re: [AVALON] Muzik for Airports ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > > Heard the muzak version of "Oh, Yeah" in the Norfolk, Viginia airport > yesterday afternoon while waiting for a plane. > > Arnie ...and it was indistinguishable from the original. (rim shot.) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:55:13 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Muzik for Airports In a message dated 7/11/99 5:50:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vhastings@worldnet.att.net writes: << Heard the muzak version of "Oh, Yeah" in the Norfolk, Viginia airport > yesterday afternoon while waiting for a plane. > > Arnie ...and it was indistinguishable from the original. (rim shot.) >> Uh, yeah. Pretty much true. Although Bryan's passionate vocals were missed. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:44:40 -0500 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] kudos ... Yeah, maybe a little over the top, but I'm on some new medication now and that should help. You know, when I said the list could bite me, I meant it in a harmless, friendly sort of way...no not exactly that way, but in a good way of some sort. I wouldn't actually talk to people that I didn't like that way, probably just wouldn't talk to them. Oh, and I wasn't a big beatle fan, they were OK, but they didn't wig me. How's that?...Mmmm...good medication. OH yeah, you will have to count me with those baptist midwesterners...oh no that was bastard midwesterners...sorry about that. Will - -----Original Message----- From: mark shanahan >will, i've got to say, my man, you've made me laugh (quite a lot, actually >-- at times), but you're getting to be a bit much with the posts as of late, >no? hey, just my $.02 worth, to be sure ... some of the comments currently >seem to be just a bunch of foo-foo stuff (again, at times), but whatever >(?). i check out (the list)to see what's going down with b.f., because i'm >sure otherwise i'd never know until i saw it on the shelf or read about it. >the camaraderie is great and i appreciate it, don't get me wrong, but some >of it seems to be missing the mark ... on the other hand, it could just be >the mood i'm in. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:49:12 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] [Avalon] A Sort Of CD Tree Guidline - -----Original Message----- From: Han Snijders To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] [Avalon] A Sort Of CD Tree Guideline >But: >1: is there any "control" of people who distribute the copies? Did everyone >in the past get his copy? I don`t recall anyone being left out. The smoothness of how well the last big CD tree went even surprised me. I`m sure it had a lot to do with everyone sending the blank media ready to ship. A big help. Just burn it and drop it in the mail. In the case of the few Canadians I did CDs for, I merely got the shipping cost from the post office and passed the info on to them. No problems at all. > >2: I guess in the US the sending of a stamped package will work but what to >do with two or three Australians and a Japanese Avalonian? I guess that in this case, special arrangements will have to be made. The truth is, the majority of request came from the U.S. and U.K. with a few from Canada with no problems reported. >In Europe it's >not possible(only if you distribute in your own country) >In that case you >must sent money for the media and the poststamps. But who is the one that >take the risk? The one who wants the copy or the masterholder? >I think it must be the one who ask.... but then the money is lost. The >master holder says I don't sent a copy. The own who ask says I did sent it. >There we've got a problem. I don`t remember who handled the Euro. portion of the past CD tree (Peter Dewey?) but I can only imagine it was handled the easiest way possible for everyone involved. But you bring up a good point. > >3 Is it in your meaning to give all the newcomers a chance to get the things >from past trees? In that case the master holders must do it for more years >or you have to start the tree all over. > >4 How do we inform newcomers? Any suggestions? Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:03:56 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm sorry to have missed it! - -----Original Message----- From: ASchulberg@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm sorry to have missed it! >How about Appalachian AVALONians? Any besides me in West Virginia? > >Arnie Well Arnie, it looks like you and I are the only repersentitives of the Appalachian chapter of the Avalon list. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:02:44 -0500 From: Victor Hastings Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm sorry to have missed it! (snip)> > Well Arnie, it looks like you and I are the only repersentitives of the > Appalachian chapter of the Avalon list. > > Gene i'll make myself an honorary appalachian, since i grew up in north carolina and my mom graduated from appalachian state university in boone. and my grandfather's family is from eastern tennessee. but now i live in new orleans, and i seem to be the only coonass on the list, ever since rexy dropped off. victor - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:11:59 -0400 From: Heather Propes Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] I'm sorry to have missed it! - --_uReach_com_26916734993174551930730xxx_ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes yes, the brave new world, the order of Appalachian Avalonians. Will you have a constitution, a theme song? Just plesae don't intervene in Central America, or we'll all rally against you. ;-) (just kidding, ergh!) Ciao! Heather (sick in bed) - ---- ASchulberg@aol.com ASchulberg@aol.com wrote ---- > In a message dated 7/6/99 9:58:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > hpropes@ureach.com writes: > > << So let's see, who are the midwestern Avalonians so far? Looks > like it's: > > Jas > Mark Shanahan > Kim Shell > Heather >> > > How about Appalachian AVALONians? Any besides me in West Virginia? > > Arnie > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number - Free Free voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com - --_uReach_com_26916734993174551930730xxx_-- - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:57:51 EDT From: Avalonisse@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] I'm sorry to have missed it! In a message dated 7/11/99 9:33:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, decophile@pipeline.com writes: > > >How about Appalachian AVALONians? Any besides me in West Virginia? > > > >Arnie > > > Well Arnie, it looks like you and I are the only repersentitives of the > Appalachian chapter of the Avalon list. > > Gene > Does Virginia count in this chapter? Looking for a place to belong, Sharon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #210 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest