From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #175 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, June 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Pyjamarama ["Han Snijders" ] Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation/Al Green ["Han Snijders" ] Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation [Bahi Para ] Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] not this one..... [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation ["Victor Hastings" ] Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation [William Sommers ] Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation ["Victor Hastings" ] [AVALON] Worst Compilation ["Robert Fedder" ] FW: [AVALON] The Best Compilation ["Robert Fedder" ] RE: [AVALON] Greetings! ["Forster, Scott" ] Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation [Bahi Para ] Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation [Bahi Para ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:53:35 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pyjamarama >did you ever hear the vocal track recorded at normal speed from the Treatments> boot? quite the eye opener! > >--TriTri > >-----Original Message----- >From: Han Snijders >>worst in my opinion > >>3 Pyjamarama I guess I'm not. And I also think that I must take back my words. I couldn't sleep a wink last night because there's a great risk you boys and girls are throwing me of this list for not liking Pyjamarama Han> - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:21:02 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation/Al Green Tim Wrote: >I couldn't do a 'worst of', not only because I genuinely like all Ferry's >tracks, but because I do believe that loving - really loving - an artist's >work - includes appreciating the very lowest moments of their work. >For example, I adore Al Green. This does not entail simply loving >'let's stay together', which after all anyone can do - it entails also >loving his version of 'white Christmas - very much more challenging! Tim , Al Green is one of my musical heroes (he's number two). I was searching for the original version of Take me to the river and I was very impressed by his singing and the producing off Willie Mitchel. I have all his albums but I really can not appreciate his early eighties work , a little bit to much 'praise the lord' But Avalonions believe me and Tim go to the recordshop and buy a greatest hits album to start with. Best songs IMO Free at last, Simply beautiful, Beware, I'm so lonesome I could cry, Jesus is waiting etc..etc.. Al is also playing at the same night at the North Sea Jazz Festival. I'm still hoping for Bryan but Al will be there. >And I have developed a real affection for that copulating elephant! Did you hear Eno's remixes of wild cat days? That's elephant group sex I think. I suggest that we call that song Wild pussy days. Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:43:59 -0400 From: Jim Donato Subject: [AVALON] RE: Worst of Ferry I would like to thank Jim Spellman for reminding me of just how maddeningly bland "Dance With Life" truly is. I had forgotten all about it even though it was the Maestro's Last Single. He's right. The song truly for Sir Elton to be warbling it. Yech! At least the CD5 had the long versions of "Help Me" and "Is Your Love Strong Enough!" I have long hated pretty much all of "Siren" apart from 2-3 tracks but "Dance With Life" definitely grabs the prize as Ferry's worst farrago. Oh yeah... "Amazing Grace" would be right up there, too. But I LOVED Ferry's 2 attempts at lead guitarist. "Pyjamarama" and especially "F+B." The simplicity of the chords in the latter adds contrast to the smouldering cauldron of low end that the bass and keys contribute in the intro. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:32:31 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation >I'm still miffed that the original Angel Eyes was >left off the Manifesto CD in favor of the disco version. In a sense, the CD is true to the LP it replaced - only the early copies of Manifesto carried the original Angel Eyes, at least in Europe. I bought the LP but had to search the used record shops (for years, believe it or not) for a crackly old copy to even hear the original version. Bahi - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:24:28 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation Why didn't you buy the album when it came out ? - ---------- >From: Bahi Para >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation >Date: Fri, Jun 11, 1999, 3:32 pm > >>I'm still miffed that the original Angel Eyes was >>left off the Manifesto CD in favor of the disco version. > >In a sense, the CD is true to the LP it replaced - only the early copies of >Manifesto carried the original Angel Eyes, at least in Europe. I bought the >LP but had to search the used record shops (for years, believe it or not) >for a crackly old copy to even hear the original version. > >Bahi > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:46:44 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] The Best Compilation Ok folks, might as well even things up, the 10 best:- 1. Mother of Pearl. 2. If there is something. (Viva! version) 3. In every dream home a heartache. 4. A song for Europe. 5. Re-Make/Re-Model. 6. Beauty Queen. 7. The thrill of it all. 8. Stronger through the years. 9. Ladytron. 10. Out of the blue. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] gold out of straw Here's a Top Ten for me out of the Worst Tens posted (in no particular order): From Martin, that inferno of luv: >> Track Five Flesh and Blood >> Track Seven Sympathy for the Devil From Han: > Pyjamarama > Dance Away From JF: > Could it happen to me. > That's how strong my love is. Kicki wrote: > When I was 13, I thought that "Help me make it through the night" was > the most beautiful song I had ever heard! Ferry crooning "Take the > ribbon from your hair" was powerful stuff for a teenager. Doesn't do the > same for me these days, though... From David: > Just Another High > It's my Party From Jim: > Worst Ferry song hands down for me - One Kiss Heretics, you're all heretics. Sister Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:09:45 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] not this one..... At 19.05 +0200 99-05-28, Andy Cooper wrote: >It's definitely not this Andy Cooper's fault > >Andy :-) And you never told us about your vacation. :-) Daniel - catching up on the list Daniel Atterbom *************** Senator Edmund Muskie "talks with the desperation of a farmer with terminal cancer trying to borrow money on next year's crop". Senator Edmund Muskie "låter lika desperat som en dödligt cancersjuk bonde som försöker låna pengar på nästa års skörd". Hunter S Thompson "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72" Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:11:27 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation i'm getting a kick out of how many people's top ten worst songs ave been others' top ten best. 'just another high' is one of my favorite roxy tracks. IMHO ferry is responsible for only a few howlers. most of his stuff is either very good or inspires only middling admiration. my top ten worst generally includes little that's new. i'm not sure if anybody has nominated the following: 'you are my sunshine' -- some songs were never meant to be dirges. about half the tracks on f+b, particularly 'no strange delight,' 'over you' (i hate that little 'love gun' noise right after manzanera's solo), 'oh yeah' and 'running wild.' sultanesque BTW did 'war brides' ever make it to vinyl? that was an early roxy single or perhaps b-side, supposedly suppressed for lack of quality. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:20:37 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation - -----Original Message----- From: JFROXY@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 11:51 AM Subject: [AVALON] The Best Compilation >Ok folks, might as well even things up, the 10 best:- > >1. Mother of Pearl. >2. If there is something. (Viva! version) >3. In every dream home a heartache. >4. A song for Europe. >5. Re-Make/Re-Model. >6. Beauty Queen. i was with you until this one, which doesn't even make my top 50 list. >7. The thrill of it all. >8. Stronger through the years. >9. Ladytron. hmmmmm.... >10. Out of the blue. no problem with that one. i prefer 'all i want is you,' 'do the strand' and 'editions of you' to 'beauty queen,' 'ladytron' (although i like that track a lot) and 'stronger through the years.' and i'd have to find a spot for 'both ends burning' and 'street life.' picking a top ten here is hard. there's at least 20 tracks that could fit. and that's only the roxy tracks -- ferry's solo work has some candidates too. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:25:42 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] From Rolling Stone At 18.22 +0200 99-06-04, ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: >In the newest edition of Rolling Stone, Moby lists his raves. His first one >is Roxy Music: "They're the only band that I have every record [they've] ever >made. I love the first four albums- masterpieces. I like that they go from >being campy and ironic to earnest and emotional in a nanosecond. And I just >love Bryan Ferry's voice." When Red Hot Chili Peppers were in Stockholm last week base player Flea named Brian Eno's contribution to the first two Roxy albums as his favorite examples of how a non-musician can contribute to rock music. Daniel -- live from a sunny Stockholm Daniel Atterbom *************** Senator Edmund Muskie "talks with the desperation of a farmer with terminal cancer trying to borrow money on next year's crop". Senator Edmund Muskie "låter lika desperat som en dödligt cancersjuk bonde som försöker låna pengar på nästa års skörd". Hunter S Thompson "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72" Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:40:02 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation At 12:20 6/11/99 -0500, Victor Hastings wrote: > >6. Beauty Queen. > > i was with you until this one, which doesn't even make my top 50 list. Oh my. For reference's sake, the list poll placed this gem at: 8. Which is your favorite Roxy Music song? 1. MOTHER OF PEARL 15.5% 2. IF THERE IS SOMETHING 8.6% (3.4% of this is the Viva track) 3. BEAUTY QUEEN 6.9% = BOTH ENDS BURNING 6.9% = SAME OLD SCENE 6.9% = TRUE TO LIFE 6.9% 9. Which is your favourite Roxy Music song from each album? FOR YOUR PLEASURE ALBUM 1. BEAUTY QUEEN 25.9% So there. Neener-neener. Seek help. -wfs - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:05:49 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation - -----Original Message----- From: William Sommers To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation >At 12:20 6/11/99 -0500, Victor Hastings wrote: > >> >6. Beauty Queen. >> >> i was with you until this one, which doesn't even make my top 50 list. > >Oh my. > > >For reference's sake, the list poll placed this gem at: > > 8. Which is your favorite Roxy Music song? > > 1. MOTHER OF PEARL 15.5% > 2. IF THERE IS SOMETHING 8.6% (3.4% of this is the Viva track) > 3. BEAUTY QUEEN 6.9% > = BOTH ENDS BURNING 6.9% > = SAME OLD SCENE 6.9% > = TRUE TO LIFE 6.9% > > 9. Which is your favourite Roxy Music song from each album? > > FOR YOUR PLEASURE ALBUM > 1. BEAUTY QUEEN 25.9% > > >So there. Neener-neener. > >Seek help. i promise to play this one over and over again until i like it a lot. but how this song can outpoll 'strand' and 'editions' is beyond me. some sort of pro-crooning mass hysteria must have been at work during the poll. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:05:46 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re:War Brides In a message dated 11/06/99 17:13:56 GMT, VHastings@worldnet.att.net writes: << BTW did 'war brides' ever make it to vinyl? that was an early roxy single or perhaps b-side, supposedly suppressed for lack of quality. >> This was used as a b-side to a Rock Follies single Sugar Mountain Island WIP 6310. This version has female vocals on it, so I think it must be a reworking of an Andy Mackay instumental. Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:33:12 +0100 From: "Richard" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Harry Smith Project I e-mailed the organiser to verify whether Bryan was performing and the reply is shown below. seems nothing is confirmed at this stage. Richard >Richard >Mr F. is certainly thinking about it. >Keep watching the press. > >David Sefton >Producer >___________________________________________________________________ >This message has been checked for all viruses, including ExploreZip >by the Star Screening System >http://academy.star.co.uk/public/virustats.htm > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:13:38 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation The Avalon group is a celebration of Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry. The different merits of each phase of the maestro's career have been debated ad nauseum on these pages. In essence there are two groups of Avalonions ; those who only like the first 2/3/4 Roxy albums and those who, more or less, love everything up to present time. I fall happily into the second camp. It's an evolution. It's crazy to make a deep division between the Roxy and Solo stuff. The songs, including the covers, all have the Ferry imprint. Successive generations of lazy music hacks have, for instance, endlessly repeated and embellished the myth of Eno : the deceit that he was the intellectual and /or artistic and/or subversive driving force behind early Roxy. His musical input is spectacularly overrated, and in reality as cosmetic as his stage plumage. That great body of work was exclusively written by Bryan. It was his (pop-art) vision of merging futurism and rock n roll. At the time, and especially when I caught them on stage, I too believed in the Roxy band concept. Now I¹m not so sure. Yes, Andy, Phil and Eno were all certainly brighter than any of their musical contemporaries, and all had their glorious moments on vinyl and stage, but I now believe that it was Bryan who created the ³Band² in his own image (!) with a little help from Puxley and Price. No wonder he was so pissed off when journalists feted Eno. Having asked the consumer to buy this sci-fi ensemble piece he was amazed that he was being overlooked as the artist responsible for the canvas. (I¹m almost reminded of how music writers regurgitate the myth that John Lennon was the cool arty hipster and Paul McCartney was the uninspired composer of pretty melodies , whereas in reality John was living in bourgeois stockbroker belt with his wife and child while Paul was up in town gorging himself on alternative culture.) But I¹ve digressed. My main point is that Roxy and Ferry are inseparable. The cover albums in the 70s were lighter than the Roxy output, but Taxi has the same world-weary, mournful feel of much of his later work. When Bryan said his final Tara to Andy and Phil at the end of Avalon, as the tide comes in, the latter were under no illusion that they were really guesting on a solo project in all but name. Don¹t get me wrong. I miss those guys enormously - Christ when I hear Bry¹s ³syn-sax² on Mamouna how I wish it was Andy¹s jowls putting some heart into that break - and I truly believe that they¹ve had some secret sessions in the past year, but the ouevre must be seen as the genius of one man aided by a few clever friends. ³I am for the man who drives the hammer..² I make no excuse, therefore, for offering my top ten to the list without differentiating between RM and BF. 1. Windswept 2. Both Ends Burning 3. Mother of Pearl. 4. This Island Earth 5. Rescue Me. 6. These Foolish Things 7. Song For Europe 8. Can¹t Let Go 9. More Than This 10. Love Me Madly Again Viva, Martino - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:06:15 -0400 From: jspellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation Martin Stockman wrote: > The Avalon group is a celebration of Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry. The > different merits of each phase of the maestro's career have been debated ad > nauseum on these pages. In essence there are two groups of Avalonions ; > those who only like the first 2/3/4 Roxy albums and those who, more or less, > love everything up to present time............. I may be alone but I feel that Bryan's last two solo efforts have more in common with the early Roxy than the later Roxy did. Maybe Eno was given more credit than he deserved, but I thought they were a heck of a lot more entertaining to watch live with Eno. I only have videos to gauge that on, but my favorite Roxy is w/ Eno and John Porter on bass. they looked like a real band, not hired guns. Jobson was surely the best musician to play in Roxy but the footage I've seen the band is not nearly as exciting to watch.I love seeing those tapes rolling in the background, I like the early outfits too. But hats off to them for not staying the same. I guess I'm a 2/3/4 guy but I liked 6 and 8 too and all of Bryan's post Roxy original music. I may be the only one who loves In Your Mind but doesn't like Bride Stripped Bare too much.But there is not a single album I don't like at least a few cuts. Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 20:29:34 UT From: "Robert Fedder" Subject: [AVALON] Worst Compilation Well, well, well. What an excellent list idea from Martin. Separating boys from men or what? (and please no complaints, I mean that in a very PC sort of way). So many tracks which people either love or loathe - wonderful. Seems to be more consensus around the top 10s, however. Anyway, let's set the record straight on a few lies perpetrated in some of the recently posted Bottom Ten lists shall we? The Bob, Wildcat Days, STTY, are all excellent, no argument, OK? G Moon's good too. My Little Girl, Dance with Life are truly awful. As is too much of Another Time, Another Place. My bottom 10 (snapshot as of 11 June): My Little Girl Could it happen to me? Dance with Life Lover Dance Away (live on the F+B tour - inclusive of 5 min drum solo, For Our Displeasure) Help me make it thru the track, I mean, night F+B, album version (perversely, the F+B tour version was rather good, completely reworked) It's Only Love The Name of the Game I'm still not sure if I love or hate Amazing Grace Slave to Love (over-played, over-produced and over here) Last point. Martin's comments re BF's role vs Eno, Andy, Phil etc - spot on. I am a big fan of the lads, especially Eno, but BF is the force. What a shame he comes in and out of wider recognition. The reason, I feel, that the first 2/3 RM albums are so intriguing vs contemporaneous sounds, is in part the amalgam of the band members. But BF's Hamilton-influenced approach, left-field attitude to lyrics, vocals, song structures, black-note emphasis etc is what gave the material the real originality and even weirdness. Listen to the two versions of Chance Meeting. What makes that song so good and original is not that Eno took some piece of bubblegum and mutated it into something great. It would have been just as strange without him. BF was and still is, a pretty original thinker, music-wise. Baby's on Fire is good, but it's no Pearl/Casanova/Both Ends Burning/Dream Home etc. We should (almost) be grateful he hasn't continued to drop out new material, diarrhoea-style a la Bowie/Prince for the last 10 years, and instead only puts out stuff which keeps the standard high. Oh dear. I've said too much... Robert - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 20:32:20 UT From: "Robert Fedder" Subject: FW: [AVALON] The Best Compilation Jim S wrote: I may be alone but I feel that Bryan's last two solo efforts have more in common with the early Roxy than the later Roxy did. Jim, You are not alone. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:45:00 -0400 From: "Amy Bettisworth" Subject: [AVALON] Greetings! Greetings all! I'm new to the list. I've been observing over the last month or so, and I must say I've learned a great deal! Being a lover of lists I figured this would be as good a time as any to put in my two cents worth! By the way, I'm a fan of the whole Roxy/Ferry body of work. Avalon and Boys and Girls served as my introduction, but I've grown to love the full range of their music. Ok, here are my lists, starting with my favorites in no particular order: 1. Out of the Blue 2. Is Your Love Strong Enough 3. Avalon 4. Spin Me Round 5. Mother of Pearl 6. Pyjamarama 7. Song for Europe 8. More Than This 9. Like a Hurricane 10. My Only Love As you can see I' m a bit of a sap! I definitely have a tendency towards the dreamier, mellower sounding tracks. As for my least favorites, I can find something to like in almost all of the songs depending on my mood, but I can think of three that I'm never in much of a rush to hear: 1. Cry Cry Cry 2. Midnight Hour 3. Dance With Life So, there's my two cents. It's really fascinating reading all of your e-mails. I can not claim to possess the wealth of knowledge that some of you do regarding Roxy, but I am most definitely a fan! By the way, this may or may not be a good thing, but I'm employed at the ad agency responsible for putting "The In Crowd" in a Blockbuster commercial.... Best Regards, Amy Bettisworth - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:19:39 -0500 From: "Forster, Scott" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Greetings! Amy, So did you personally have anything to do with getting "The In Crowd" in the Blockbuster commercials --- directly or indirectly? Just curious. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Amy Bettisworth [mailto:abettisworth@wbdoner.com] Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 3:45 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Greetings! Greetings all! I'm new to the list. I've been observing over the last month or so, and I must say I've learned a great deal! Being a lover of lists I figured this would be as good a time as any to put in my two cents worth! By the way, I'm a fan of the whole Roxy/Ferry body of work. Avalon and Boys and Girls served as my introduction, but I've grown to love the full range of their music. Ok, here are my lists, starting with my favorites in no particular order: 1. Out of the Blue 2. Is Your Love Strong Enough 3. Avalon 4. Spin Me Round 5. Mother of Pearl 6. Pyjamarama 7. Song for Europe 8. More Than This 9. Like a Hurricane 10. My Only Love As you can see I' m a bit of a sap! I definitely have a tendency towards the dreamier, mellower sounding tracks. As for my least favorites, I can find something to like in almost all of the songs depending on my mood, but I can think of three that I'm never in much of a rush to hear: 1. Cry Cry Cry 2. Midnight Hour 3. Dance With Life So, there's my two cents. It's really fascinating reading all of your e-mails. I can not claim to possess the wealth of knowledge that some of you do regarding Roxy, but I am most definitely a fan! By the way, this may or may not be a good thing, but I'm employed at the ad agency responsible for putting "The In Crowd" in a Blockbuster commercial.... Best Regards, Amy Bettisworth -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:51:26 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst Compilation Martin Stockman wrote: >Why didn't you buy the album [Manifesto] when it came out ? My pocket money wouldn't stretch to it and anyway, I didn't have my own record player in '79. (I did tape Dance Away from the radio, oddly enough.) Bahi - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:51:22 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Best Compilation Martin Stockman wrote: >In essence there are two groups of Avalonions ; >those who only like the first 2/3/4 Roxy albums and those who, more or less, >love everything up to present time. There's at least one more - one that thinks Bryan didn't regain his '72/'73 form until around 1985, with Boys & Girls. At a push, you could call us a division of your second group. The stuff from Stranded to Avalon was generally great but the first two Roxy albums, like the last few solo releases, somehow mean much more. Welcome, Amy and thanks for a break from the scary lists of late. I hope you can help persuade Colleen (whose own "best of" list was a welcome relief) not to light that match. 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