From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #138 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, May 6 1999 Volume 04 : Number 138 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Manzanera,Aterciopelados and Rock en Espanol ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] Website [Heather Marie Propes ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Class of '77 [Heather Marie Propes ] [AVALON] RE: Vox thread [Jim Donato ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Vox thread ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] Russian website [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... ["Heather D." ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] RE: Vox thread [John Colquhoun ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Class of '77 [Heather Marie Propes ] [AVALON] WARNING [JVapor7@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:20:42 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manzanera,Aterciopelados and Rock en Espanol Hi Lawrence, Although this site is still in Limbo (still list Phil`s Feb. tour dates), you should be able to find what you`re looking for. http://www.manzanera.com/menu1.htm Cheers. Gene - -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Buchalter To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 10:50 PM Subject: [AVALON] Manzanera,Aterciopelados and Rock en Espanol >hi all- > >Does anyone have a complete discography of official releases by Phil >Manzanera. What is he currently doing in >music or production work ? Has anyone heard Aterciopelados or other Rock en >Espanol releases? How are they? > >thank you >Larry >Larry Buchalter >Berkeley California >lawrenc6@ix.netcom.com > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:29:49 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots Fellow AVALONians- After hearing the Wolverhampton concert with Trower on guitar I find myself wanting, no, needing more. The Wolverhampton was a radio concert and seems to have been shortened to an hour's running time. Does anyone have any boots from that tour (with Trower on guitar, of course) that are full-length? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:44:03 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website >>I don't wish this to be my site, but our site, so any suggestion is >welcome. >> >>regards >> >>John O'Brien I think we could do with a site that collates all newspaper/magazine journalism relating to the maestro. I've mentioned before how rarely a week goes by in England without some item, whether it be social gossip in a "Hello" type rag or an interview about an artist or somesuch. I think TriTri found four such items in one week by scouring her (New York ?) imported magazine rack. Even tangential references like that hilarious recent story in Uncut about Bry and Agnetha sharing a dancefloor on the Manifesto tour. And photos, of course. And as for Kicki's "I'm a journalist" bleating....I think we should show as much respect for their prurient, intrusive "art" as they do for the "punters" they exploit. Publish, and let the devil take tomorrow, for tonight we need a website.. pip pip Martini - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:55:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website On Tue, 4 May 1999, Han Snijders wrote: > Here are some suggestions: > > Background information about the lyrics. We had this talk about three and > nine, do the strand, mother of pearl in the past and I think it's a good > idea to see the lyrics with all the background information. > > Otis schoolresults > > There has been some House and Garden kind of articles in the past about > Ferry's dreamhomes. Manzanera's home I saw in a Dutch magazine. Beautiful > Art Deco I think Gene would love it. > > In other words I want TRIVIA. > definitely. Ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:19:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Class of '77 Sorry, it was just something I came up with in a pinch, and yet, don't you see a bit of similarity in that deadpan sort of "exposed to everything" image that they both portray? I do. Well, I told you I'd give you my thought on Momus, and Gang of Four. Gang of Four has long been one of my favorite 80's bands. With their incredibly stylish, videos and image, combined with political yet artsy lyrics that are influenced by Jean-Luc Goddard and Marxist art historian T.J. Clark, they have every element that a good 80's band needed to have. Listening to a song like "Man in a Uniform" or "We Live As We Dream Alone," I am touched by all the same emotions as I sense watching a film like "Numero Deux," or touring 1970's public housing in Berlin (which I have never done), or being in big cities anywhere, alienation, sadness, failed idealism, combined with an overwhelming sense of beauty. There is something really amazing about European youth culture of the 1970's and 80's that I really can't put my finger on. I guess it's because they were in the middle of all those changing political regimes, but it seems like they always had really meaningful stuff to write about. I'm babbling. Sorry. Also, Momus - never before have I met a more pretentious artist! Momus is such a name-dropper, he mentions people like Isabelle Adjani, Paolo Conte, Jane Birkin, or Gary Numan Edvard Munch in his short, poppy, sexy songs which are mainly about his favorite subjects - avant garde cultture, the repressed life of English people, sex, and Asian women. But he is brilliant! He is in love with everything new, which he considers to be a very Japanese trait. He write lots of articles which he posts on his wonderful web site, http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/index.html. Please, go there and read his article "On Hong Kong," which is one of the most brilliant peices of writing I've ever seen, and has a wonderful linkage between our generation and today's pop culture generation. It's at http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/index311.html. And once you hear Momus, you won't be able to stop, take it from me. Ciao, Heather Propes p.s. - read about his latest project "Stars Forever." It's just hilarious. His label got sued for sampling something without asking on his last album, "Analog Baroque," so now he's doing a fundraiser album for his label but selling song space on his new album. Give him $1000, and he'll write you a song. He's got a list of the people who bought songs on the home page of his site (which Brian, is a good example of a fabulous pop site, IMHO). http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu On Tue, 4 May 1999, tfagan wrote: > As a person who owns just about every Nico album that came down the pike, i > caan't see any realiaton between Debbie Harry & her! Sorry! > > (I think Marble Index was the first album i ever won in an auction...) > > --TriTri (Ms.)(not Retired) > > (monty python rears it's scaly head) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Heather Marie Propes > To: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Class of '77 > > > > And Blondie is awesome too. I love her whole "Nico meets playboy bunny" > image. She could have taught any of today's waifs a thing or too! > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 06:32:29 PDT From: "Heather D." Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Class of '77 Greetings! These are words that speak to my heart! And the odd thing is I just finished a book involving Nico. Fascinating woman. Anyone heard of Suburban Lawns? Oh well, good day. Truly, HD > >And Blondie is awesome too. I love her whole "Nico meets playboy bunny" >image. She could have taught any of today's waifs a thing or too! Kicki? > >tomorrow - eulogies for Gang of Four and Momus. > >Ciao! > >http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop > >Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu > > > >On Tue, 4 May 1999, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > > > When we're talking about 82-83 - nobody has mentioned Blancmange yet. > > Martinique? > > During my au pair in London I sometimes rubbed shoulders with them at >The > > Palace. *LOL* > > > > /Kicki G > > > > ------------------------ > > Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 > > http://www.op.se > > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:46:01 -0400 From: Jim Donato Subject: [AVALON] RE: Vox thread Will's right. Ultravox acme WAS the "Systems Of Romance" album of '78. Mind boggling machine/rock synthesis to this day. But the fact remains that it was "Vienna" 2 years later that initially caught my ear. By then Midge Ure had taken John Foxx's place and gave them hits but the content of the music [primarily lyrics at first] suffered greatly in comparison. I justify this thread by mentioning that Eno produced their excellent '77 debut LP... hah! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:28:41 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Vox thread >Will's right. Ultravox acme WAS the "Systems Of Romance" album of '78. Mind >boggling machine/rock synthesis to this day. But the fact remains that it >was "Vienna" 2 years later that initially caught my ear. By then Midge Ure >had taken John Foxx's place and gave them hits but the content of the music >[primarily lyrics at first] suffered greatly in comparison. I justify this >thread by mentioning that Eno produced their excellent '77 debut LP... hah! I have only one thing to say about Vienna : It means nothing to me M x - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 07:36:22 PDT From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] stranglers/website hi all: well, martiniwa helped me recall a hyper-repressed and at least equally embarrassing claim to infamy, which i'll mention here shortly. <> i think the new website idea is great. especially one different from others we've all seen. i really like the idea of including interviews, photos (including house & garden ...), trivia, concert dates/details, etc. re: permission for interviews, etc. - i suppose the legal/right thing to do is to contact the publisher, but i wouldn't know for sure. i have seen many a website w/interviews and a simple notation that the above material was used without permission. btw, i don't know if anyone has checked this site out, but it looks pretty good. i haven't checked it from front to back. it's out of russia: http://www.om.ru/ferry/engl/ so, the stranglers had been one of my all-time hugely favorite bands and jean-jacques burnel a personal hero (for all those wonderful bass lines ...). never got to see them in their heyday. so, finally, in 1984 i get my chance. can't pass it up (even though it's late for them) -- original line-up and everything. even hugh cornwell is supposed to be clean (post smack-charges fiasco) ... great place - downtown detroit - former church gymnasium, converted to small, intimate concert hall. they're in great form, playing well, sound is good. really enjoying the concert and i'm right in front of the stage. i catch jean-jacque's eye in between numbers and reach out my hand for a shake. i'm so into this show, enthusiasm completely over the top - *completely*! so, what exactly do i do?! well, of course, i give him the hippie/power-to-the-people three-phase handshake. i realize immediately what i've done (oh, no!). he looks at me with furrowed brow and says, "that's my *hand*, man!". oh, no! (LOL) ... first, i'm mortified, then petrified, mouth open. then, i somehow manage to sort-of half-recoil in horror. i turn to see one of the homeboys next to me, jamming on the show. he shrugs and gives me one of those _looks_ like, 'you *whiteboy* ...' finally, i slink away as far from the stage & as *close* to the bar as possible. i stay there for the remainder of the show ... i can't really believe that happened, but it did and makes me laugh quite a bit - now. sorry if it was a little long-winded, but it was a bit cathartic to get that out ... phoo! thx/peaces/ms _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:07:18 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Russian website At 16.36 +0200 99-05-05, mark shanahan wrote: >btw, i don't know if anyone has checked this site out, but it looks pretty >good. i haven't checked it from front to back. it's out of russia: > >http://www.om.ru/ferry/engl/ Why don't we invite mr Andrew Polyakov to join avalon@smoe.org? He writes: "Hi my unknown friend. Thanks for visiting my Bryan Ferry & "Roxy Music" Web site. My name is Andrew Polyakov. I live in Moscow (for those who don't know about it, it's in Russia). I'm 26 years old, and I am a Web-designer & programmer. My favourite hobby is listening to music by Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music. You can visit my home page (I'm sorry, it's in Russian only :) )" I liked the pages. Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:13:51 PDT From: "Heather D." Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... Greetings! Reading these various tales of teenage life, makes me realize how boring of a teenager I was! Well I agree with Martin about new music. I believe that there is still good new music out there, its just in these recent times, one has to dig for it. The level of media saturation, though its been heavy for quite awhile, has reached an all time high. So only a limited number of musicians get proper exposure. Of course with a lot of the great past music that has been aforementioned(ie Bauhaus, Ultravox, The Cramps, Kate Bush, Lords of the New Church etc etc) I had to dig up as well, since not only was I quite young, but my area was/is not that most musically oriented or openminded area in the world. I did get enough though to hear Bryan Ferry fortunately, which naturally led me to Roxy music. Its amazing how things work in chains. Well good day. Yours Truly, HD > >I enjoyed Heather's tale of teenage kicks in Southern California. > >A frequent thread of conversation at the bourgeois dinner parties that I >presently attend in North London is the mystery of "why isn't music as good >as it used to be." I side with the theory that when one was at college, or >of that age, one had so much time - and inclination - to explore music, to >actually get into bands. And the faith that the next group you were >introduced to would be the one. > >My university years coincided with the magnesium flare of punk, and the >sweeping away of the pretentious, faux progressive stadium rockers (ELP, >Yes, Genesis and so forth.) More through luck than judgment I found myself >in the eye of the storm. Going to the Chalk Farm Roundhouse in the summer >of >76, (I was 18,) to see Bowie¹s backing band The Spiders From Mars I was >very taken with a rockabilly support act called The 101ers, fronted by a >guy >called Joe Strummer. NME also liked them and mentioned, en passent, that a >guy called Johnny Rotten had been ejected during the Spiders set. This >carrot haired, green-toothed leprechaun was to dominate my life for the >next >year, momentarily surpassing Le Ferrari in my pantheon of heroes. It is no >exaggeration to say that I, with two schoolmates, witnessed the birth of >punk. We saw the Pistol¹s second gig at the 100 Club in Oxford Street and >were dazzled by the energy, power and thrill of it all. I can report that >it >was tabloid tosh to suggest that this was a guttural working class >movement. >No, the seminal Punk crowd was peopled by middle-class art college types. I >saw the same faces wearing GI outfits on the Siren tour. There was the same >sense of dressing-up that was so central to following Roxy. And I got the >same buzz from ³Submission², for example, as I did from ³Both Ends >Burning.² > >Of course the sociologists and the gutter press spoiled the party. The fun >dried up. The likes of The Clash started to wear the same earnest >expressions of the hippies that they purported to hate. Punk segued into >New Wave, a ghastly, humourless East Coast makeover of our scene. >Television >were cool, and sounded okay, and, crucially, provided the bewildered >hippies >in the rock press with a student-friendly alternative to the outre, >bondage-styled, garden-shear barbered, heroes of punk. Just as the likes of >Bob Harris disowned any programme he presented with Roxy on the bill in >72/73, now the postpunk musoes were relieved to embrace the technical >proficiency of the New Wave (excuse me while I puke) artists. Still we have >the vinyl memories. X Ray Specs, Subway Sect, The Buzzcocks, Wreckless >Eric, >The Undertones, and, of course, the Pistols made life fun and exciting for >a >while. > >Then Bryan released the single ³Sign Of The Times² and my heart swung back >to his chilled perfection. I had played away for the last time.... > >pip pip > >Martino > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:53:21 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website > >And as for Kicki's "I'm a journalist" bleating....I think we should show as >much respect for their prurient, intrusive "art" as they do for the >"punters" they exploit. Publish, and let the devil take tomorrow, for >tonight we need a website.. > >pip pip > >Martini If it was anyone else but you, Marty-Party, I'd be rather pissed off by the above. /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:35:50 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots In a message dated 05/05/99 11:34:26 GMT, you write: << After hearing the Wolverhampton concert with Trower on guitar I find myself wanting, no, needing more. The Wolverhampton was a radio concert and seems to have been shortened to an hour's running time. Does anyone have any boots from that tour (with Trower on guitar, of course) that are full-length? >> I have a CD of that show called "Living Just For Fun" it has excellant sound quality. Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:01:25 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots In a message dated 05/05/99 07:39:58 GMT Daylight Time, JObinv01@aol.com writes: << I have a CD of that show called "Living Just For Fun" it has excellant sound quality. >> Hi John, Do you think you could possibly scan and e-mail me the cover of this CD? I have the original Radio 2 broadcast on tape, but have never came across the CD. Thank you John Fulton. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:43:02 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots In a message dated 05/05/99 20:09:24 GMT, you write: << Hi John, Do you think you could possibly scan and e-mail me the cover of this CD? I have the original Radio 2 broadcast on tape, but have never came across the CD. Thank you John Fulton. >> sorry I don't have a scanner yet, I hope to get an A3 one in the next few weeks so that I can do stuff for the website I am talking about. the sleeve is really good with cracking live pictures, the cover has a really sweaty picture of him with the keytar round his neck. A real sweaty 'at his work' type shot instead of the smooth groomed guy. I can try and find a copy if you wish. I got 2 copies at a fair in Glasgow, abut a year ago, I traded one with some one for other stuff. regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:55:00 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots In a message dated 05/05/99 09:49:42 GMT Daylight Time, JObinv01@aol.com writes: << I can try and find a copy if you wish. I got 2 copies at a fair in Glasgow, abut a year ago, I traded one with some one for other stuff. >> Hi John, thanks for the info, I will be going to the big record fare in Glasgow at the end of this month, so I will keep an eye out for it. cheers JF. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:15:32 -0400 (EDT) From: John Colquhoun Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Vox thread I saw Ultravox with John Foxx in Toronto at the EDGE(legendary club ....a converted home.....capacity couldn't be much more than 300.......this was the club where the Police played on their 1st North American Tour Ultravox did stuff from their first 2 albums plus unreleased material from Systems of Romance......the highlight was an encore of King's Lead Hat..which was awesome........Foxx was / is charismatic JC - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:20:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Class of '77 "Oh My Janitor" Suburban LAwns? I have that single! Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu On Wed, 5 May 1999, Heather D. wrote: > Greetings! These are words that speak to my heart! And the odd thing is I > just finished a book involving Nico. Fascinating woman. > Anyone heard of Suburban Lawns? Oh well, good day. > > Truly, > > HD > > > > > > >And Blondie is awesome too. I love her whole "Nico meets playboy bunny" > >image. She could have taught any of today's waifs a thing or too! Kicki? > > > >tomorrow - eulogies for Gang of Four and Momus. > > > >Ciao! > > > >http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop > > > >Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu > > > > > > > >On Tue, 4 May 1999, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: > > > > > When we're talking about 82-83 - nobody has mentioned Blancmange yet. > > > Martinique? > > > During my au pair in London I sometimes rubbed shoulders with them at > >The > > > Palace. *LOL* > > > > > > /Kicki G > > > > > > ------------------------ > > > Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 > > > http://www.op.se > > > http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 16:23:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Russian website Yes, Andrew, if you're out there, why don't you join? I have a weakness for men with Russian accents! Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu On Wed, 5 May 1999, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > At 16.36 +0200 99-05-05, mark shanahan wrote: > >btw, i don't know if anyone has checked this site out, but it looks pretty > >good. i haven't checked it from front to back. it's out of russia: > > > >http://www.om.ru/ferry/engl/ > > Why don't we invite mr Andrew Polyakov to join avalon@smoe.org? > > He writes: > > "Hi my unknown friend. > > Thanks for visiting my Bryan Ferry & "Roxy Music" Web site. > > My name is Andrew Polyakov. > > I live in Moscow (for those who don't know about it, it's in Russia). I'm > 26 years old, and I am a Web-designer & programmer. My favourite hobby is > listening to music by Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music. You can visit my home > page (I'm sorry, it's in Russian only :) )" > > I liked the pages. > > Daniel > > > > Daniel Atterbom > *************** > > "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed > us with New World Order." > > Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, > from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine > > Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt > medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. > > This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for > publication or re-distribution without my written permission. > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:26:52 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry tour with Trower boots In a message dated 05/05/99 21:02:09 GMT, you write: << Hi John, thanks for the info, I will be going to the big record fare in Glasgow at the end of this month, so I will keep an eye out for it. cheers JF. >> Why don't we meet up at the above event John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:07:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:04:32 +0100 From: Martin Stockman Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... I enjoyed Heather's tale of teenage kicks in Southern California. Thank you! And anytime you want to send me compliments, my address, again, is asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu A frequent thread of conversation at the bourgeois dinner parties that I presently attend in North London is the mystery of "why isn't music as good as it used to be." I side with the theory that when one was at college, or of that age, one had so much time - and inclination - to explore music, to actually get into bands. And the faith that the next group you were introduced to would be the one. Funny, that's a similar thread to the beer and Doritos sessions we used to have with friends in Cerritos, California. I wonder if North London has the same air as Cerritos? But yes, you have to work really hard to keep up with music, as with art and computers and anything that makes you an interesting person. I'm trying as hard as I can over these last few months before I start having kids to find out about as many new bands and artists as possible. Stocking up, as they say. Hopefully, when I have kids and they get old enough, they can expose me to new stuff. My university years coincided with the magnesium flare of punk, and the sweeping away of the pretentious, faux progressive stadium rockers (ELP, Yes, Genesis and so forth.) More through luck than judgment I found myself in the eye of the storm. Going to the Chalk Farm Roundhouse in the summer of 76, (I was 18,) to see Bowie¹s backing band The Spiders From Mars I was very taken with a rockabilly support act called The 101ers, fronted by a guy called Joe Strummer. NME also liked them and mentioned, en passent, that a guy called Johnny Rotten had been ejected during the Spiders set. This carrot haired, green-toothed leprechaun was to dominate my life for the next year, momentarily surpassing Le Ferrari in my pantheon of heroes. It is no exaggeration to say that I, with two schoolmates, witnessed the birth of punk. No shit! That would have been amazing. I just sat around with my friend Raina in Long Beach and listened to Crass and The Sex Pistols Great Rock And Roll Swindle. Were it not for moveiws like "Sid and Nancy," I never woul dhave gotten a feeling for what that scene looked like. We saw the Pistol¹s second gig at the 100 Club in Oxford Street and were dazzled by the energy, power and thrill of it all. I can report that it was tabloid tosh to suggest that this was a guttural working class movement. No, the seminal Punk crowd was peopled by middle-class art college types. I saw the same faces wearing GI outfits on the Siren tour. There was the same sense of dressing-up that was so central to following Roxy. And I got the same buzz from ³Submission², for example, as I did from ³Both Ends Burning.² Sure, Submission is one of their greatest songs, IMHO. In fact, it's my favorite by them Of course the sociologists and the gutter press spoiled the party. The fun dried up. The likes of The Clash started to wear the same earnest expressions of the hippies that they purported to hate. Punk segued into New Wave, a ghastly, humourless East Coast makeover of our scene. well that depends on what you call new wave. I consider new wave to be all the great bands of the early 80's - Japan, Ultravox, Gang of Four, Roxy Music, and Television. All the bands that weren't punk. We had simple categories in California, none of this "poststructuralism" stuff that you Europeans love. Then Bryan released the single ³Sign Of The Times² and my heart swung back to his chilled perfection. I had played away for the last time.... Yes yes, me too, it was all over. And they were chilled perfection. No other band can even come close. Ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:46:24 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... (fwd) (snip) >I'm trying as hard as I can over these last few months >before I start having kids to find out about as many new bands and artists >as possible. Stocking up, as they say. Hopefully, when I have kids and >they get old enough, they can expose me to new stuff. my kids are 9 and 11. i've played music for them ever since they were little. in fact, one of my most vivid memories of my wife's pregnancy was when my eight months pregnant wife and i went to dinner at a german restaurant that featured an oom-pah-pah band. the musicians came by our table playing at full volume and my son-to-be went crazy, kicking so hard i could see my wife's maternity dress pushing out. (i envisioned the scene from 'aliens' where the little creature popped out of the crewman's stomach.) anyway, my kids have been exposed to everything from roxy to dixieland jazz to gershwin. my son could hardly care less about most of it (although he likes dave brubeck) and my daughter is big into britney spears and all saints and n-sync. i also have two brothers-in-law who are college age. one is a huge springsteen fan and the other listens to a lot of hip-hop. i've gotten both of them a lot of music over the years and some of it appeals to them while some of it doesn't. in short, it'll be a long time before your kids are old enough to expose you to their music, and by that time they'll probably be listening to something you don't like! and it'll be even longer before they are old enough to enjoy something as sophisticated as BF/RM. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:44:15 -0700 From: dawndalion Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... (fwd) Well, I gotta throw my two cents in on this 'kid thing' and music exposure..... Both of my kids have listened to music that I have in the CD player, from the Doors, to Tom Petty, Ella Fitzgerald, to Frank Sinatra, to Miles...of course they know 'Bwyan Fair-wee' very well....but also lotsa classical music.... My son was 26 months old when he taught himself (honest!!!) how to play Beethoven's Ode to Joy, at least with one hand on the piano!! I was amazed. He has now taken it to other octaves and played it in a minor key..he 'know's what is harmonious and what it dissonant....They both have had constant exposure to beautiful and melodious music all their lives...even welcomed into this world with Mozart. So I guess what I am trying to say is...don't forget the classics.. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 03:38:19 -0400 From: "Gregory A. Koetting" Subject: [AVALON] "Spin Me Round" Oh it is a late night.... I wonder if any of you all really like the song "Spin Me Round..." I listened to it for the first time again after probably years... What a heart rending song. What tender rhythms... that lullaby voice... And oh that painful sense of longing... In a way, "Spin Me Round" vaguely reminds me of David Sylvian's new song "Darkest Dreaming." As incredibly emotion-filled as that song is, it's funny to think that the author also penned a song about someone 'whose skin is just like vinyl..." I was surfing through that Russian guy's Roxy site and saw that he had lyrics posted- (even the elusive lyrics to "Nocturne" :) ). i know that someone else has all the album lyrics posted somewhere, but since I haven't bothered to look at them in awhile, I thought I'd check it out. his site is really nice- well designed.... It's really cool that he has the lyrics to a lot of the b-sides, too... greggie/atlanta "but I don't understand why the dream has ended, yet I can't wake up.." - -bryan ferry '79 - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 02:37:52 EDT From: JVapor7@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] WARNING Coming Soon James Vapor's MANIFESTO final emission **The Original Is Still The Greatest** - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #138 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest