From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #135 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, May 4 1999 Volume 04 : Number 135 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] the nineties [Heather Marie Propes ] Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? ["Heather D." ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] the nineties [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... ["Will" ] [AVALON] Website [JObinv01@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Website [Heather Marie Propes ] [AVALON] The nineties [Heather Marie Propes ] Re: [AVALON] The nineties ["Will" ] Re: [AVALON] Website [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The nineties [Jim Spellman ] Re: [AVALON] Warm Love ["tfagan" ] Re: [AVALON] The nineties [Victor Hastings ] Re: [AVALON] Warm Love [Bahi Para ] Re: [AVALON] The nineties [Jim Spellman ] Re: [AVALON] Website ["alegna" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures [Brian Folks ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:09:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: [AVALON] the nineties Actually, I love the 90's. The Internet and computers have opened up a whole new world for me. I love the fact that I can communicate with people who share my interests halfway across the globe, I am exposed to a lot more culture this way too. Musically, the 90's are just great. English pop music is at an all-time high with bands like Pulp, St. Etienne, Belle and Sebastian. Fashions are great. It would be nice to know they weren't being made by slaves in China, but hey, it motivates me to sew. I am getting married during this decade, I have a good job that I love, and sometime soon we may be moving to Europe. So, I'm much happier in the 90's than I was in the 80's, when my energies were fueled primarily by anger and rebellion, or in the 70's, when my idea of a good time was riding arond on a plastic skateboard and listening to The Knack. So that's what I think of the 90's. Ciao! http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 08:43:19 PDT From: "Heather D." Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? Greetings! being human I had to throw my two cents in: 1. For your Pleasure 2. Country Life 3. Roxy Music 4. Stranded 5. Manifesto 6. Avalon 7. Viva! 8. Siren 9.Flesh & Blood Good tidings! Truly, HD > > replies came from US Avalonians,anyway (if anyone is interested) my >personal > > chart would be:- > > > > 1. For your pleasure. > > 2. Stranded. > > 3. Roxy Music. > > 4. Country Life. > > 5. Siren. > > 6. Avalon. > > 7. Flesh & Blood. > > 8. Manifesto. > > > > excluding live and compilation albums. Each to their own, I suppose. >regards > > John F. > > > > -------------------- > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:38:02 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures A while back someone posted a web site for Anton Corbjin photos of Bryan. Could anyone remind me what the website address is again??? Does anyone have any other sites that I can download pictures from.??? Thanks J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:02:43 EDT From: Avalonisse@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures In a message dated 5/3/99 12:44:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JObinv01@aol.com writes: > A while back someone posted a web site for Anton Corbjin photos of Bryan. > Could anyone remind me what the website address is again??? > http://www.photogenic.net/corbijn/ferry/ferry4.html sharon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:15:56 -0400 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures - -----Original Message----- From: Avalonisse@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures >In a message dated 5/3/99 12:44:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JObinv01@aol.com >writes: > >> A while back someone posted a web site for Anton Corbjin photos of Bryan. >> Could anyone remind me what the website address is again??? >> >http://www.photogenic.net/corbijn/ferry/ferry4.html > >sharon Just wondering, has anyone been able to spot Ferry in #9? (ferry9.html) Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:51:31 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures In a message dated 03/05/99 17:07:29 GMT, you write: << > A while back someone posted a web site for Anton Corbjin photos of Bryan. > Could anyone remind me what the website address is again??? > http://www.photogenic.net/corbijn/ferry/ferry4.html >> Thank you very much. John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:34:14 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] the nineties > when my idea of a good time was riding >arond on a plastic skateboard and listening to The Knack. My-my-my-my Sharona, right?? /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:37:16 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures >Just wondering, has anyone been able to spot Ferry in #9? (ferry9.html) > >Gene Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! He's probably A) Behind the tree, B) Up in the tree or C) Buried under the sand. /Kicki G - --------------------------- Kicki Gustafsson http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG kicki.gustafsson@op.se - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:23:01 -0500 From: "Will" Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... Reading over your tale there is only one part that I'm still not clear on...do you still have a nice ass? OK Thanks Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Marie Propes To: Avalon Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 3:38 PM Subject: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... > Roxy Music had many phases, raucous R&B-influenced glam, disco, new wave, > smooth "urban contemporary" (for lack of a better term), not to mention > the dramatic vocals of Bryan Ferry. All of this genre crossing, and the > long duration or Ferry's career, means that he has accumulated a highly > heterogeneous base of fans, namely us. I mean, face it, we're all very > different. We're not like a group of deadheads or 16-year-old Japanimation > fans where everyone comes from the same scene. > > So I would like to ask everyone, what is (or was) the pop cultural height > of your existence? Is it the 90's? Was it the 70's? And who are your other > favorite bands from this climactic era, aside from Roxy Music? > > > I'll go first: > > The climax of my pop-cultural existence was the 1980's. I was your typical > dyed-hair and black clothed punk new waver. I was glued to MTV in the > den of my Southern California tract home day after day watching Martha > Quinn hand the mike over to JJ Jackson and then to Nina whatserface. At > first it was Fun Boy Three, Nick Rhodes and Simon Le Bon, John Hughes > films and the japanese look, later I found my 80's destiny when my first > glimspe of Robert Smith threw me into fits of extasy. I was freed from the > dread that I might somehow, someday have to date a surfer. I knew at that > moment that there were pale, skinny men with black hair and petulent > expressions, and that if I too, became skinny enough, I might win one too. > I eventually did > find a tall, punk boyfriend who looked like Nick Cave with a buzz cut. He > got me out of trouble with the bully at school who said that I was a > "poseur," and that was the last I heard from him after he met up with > some girl from a local punk gang. I did find out later from my best friend > that they only think he saw in me was that I had a "nice ass." > > After school, we would take long walks to smoke clove cigarettes. Or we > would cajole our friends or our mom's to talk us to Melrose Avenue to buy > pointy shoes and ogle the pale, spikey-haired men. Now I was in high > school and I was becoming more serious, after all, I was off to > college soon. Peter Murphy and Robert Smith gave way to David Sylvian, > Bowie and 70's glam rock. Death rock was too silly and theatrical for us > now. We watched Christiane F. regularly and though she was the coolest > (don't ask me why). We teased our hair, wore pseudo-military inspired > clothes, and listened to "Adolescent Sex" over and over again. This was > about the time that I discovered Roxy Music, but not very well. I had an > older "preppy punk" boyfriend at this time, with Converse > Hi-Tops, spiked hair, khaki pants, and a purple and black Camaro which > somehow impressed me. One night I went to his house and we made out for a > long time to "Avalon." I felft very cool and adult, making out to > "Avalon" with a guy who was old enough to buy beer, and had an apatment > and a Camaro, when I was 17. Eventually he slept with my best friend, we > broke up, and I forgot about Roxy Music and went back to the really > important bands, like Guns N Roses. But I had had my first taste of Roxy > after this experience, and I guess it stayed with me, becaus in 1993 I was > given the opportunity to make out to "If There Is something," and after > that I was a true believer, partially thanks to my preppy punk boyfriend > of 1987. > > Well, that's it in a nutshell, un cadeau pour vous. Some of my other > favorite bands are Pulp, Belle and Sebastian, and of course, Japan, New > Order, and David Bowie. > > Ciao! > > http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop > > Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:41:19 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Website I am currently constructing a website. I would like to use my collection of :- 7" (200 +) 12" (50 +) CD (180 +) LP (100 +) Tour Books, sheet music, newspaper & magazine cuttings and all sort of memorabilia. I would like to make some better use of this stuff than filing it away in neat little boxes, only being looked at now and again. I would like to share it through the internet. I don't wish to compete with the 2 main sites "Heart Still Beating" and "Madness In My Soul" . I would like to offer a similar site, but would like to add a new angle. I would appreciate any suggestions to make the site what people like yourselves would want to see and read about. I won't claim to be an information service in that any news that I would publish would come from the press and not direct from official sources. I would like any contributions from anyone who has some of the missing links in my collection so that this could be the most comprehensive collection possible in order to let us all see what is out there. I would supply all the usual discography information, and give ratings for bootlegs to give potential buyers an idea what to go for. I know we are not all anorak type collectors, so it would have to offer more than just every minute detail of every pressing throughout the world. I don't wish this to be my site, but our site, so any suggestion is welcome. regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:49:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website That is very cool! I hope you will include lyrics and lots of pictures. Also, any articles you feel like entering or scanning in would be great. You could always scan the articles in and publish them in pdf. Best of luck and let me know if you need any help with Javascript, etc. I know a little. http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu On Mon, 3 May 1999 JObinv01@aol.com wrote: > I am currently constructing a website. I would like to use my collection of :- > 7" (200 +) > 12" (50 +) > CD (180 +) > LP (100 +) > Tour Books, sheet music, newspaper & magazine cuttings and all sort of > memorabilia. > > I would like to make some better use of this stuff than filing it away in > neat little boxes, only being looked at now and again. I would like to share > it through the internet. > > I don't wish to compete with the 2 main sites "Heart Still Beating" and > "Madness In My Soul" . I would like to offer a similar site, but would like > to add a new angle. I would appreciate any suggestions to make the site what > people like yourselves would want to see and read about. I won't claim to be > an information service in that any news that I would publish would come from > the press and not direct from official sources. I would like any > contributions from anyone who has some of the missing links in my collection > so that this could be the most comprehensive collection possible in order to > let us all see what is out there. > > I would supply all the usual discography information, and give ratings for > bootlegs to give potential buyers an idea what to go for. > > I know we are not all anorak type collectors, so it would have to offer more > than just every minute detail of every pressing throughout the world. > > I don't wish this to be my site, but our site, so any suggestion is welcome. > > regards > > John O'Brien > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:52:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: [AVALON] The nineties Sorry about not including your comments. My computer crashed earlier and I lost a bunch of stuff. Yes, it was the "My Sharona" Knack. Other 70's favorite from my one digit days were Olivia Newton John, Shawn Cassidy and Kenny Rogers. Incidentally, there was a new wave radio station in Long Beach called "knac", and I think they were named after the band. Later they became heavy metal and now they're hispanic. And Will - mmmmmmmaybe! Ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:12:36 -0500 From: "Will" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The nineties OOH BABY! Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Marie Propes > And Will - mmmmmmmaybe! > > > Ciao, > > Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:42:13 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website In a message dated 03/05/99 10:45:39 GMT Daylight Time, JObinv01@aol.com writes: << I am currently constructing a website. >> Hi John, great idea, why don't you give us a run down of stuff you do not have but have heard of, bootlegs,rarites, tour dates etc. so we can chip in any missing links to paint a complete picture. Cheers John F. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:02:24 -0400 From: Jim Spellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] The nineties Heather Marie Propes wrote: > Sorry about not including your comments. My computer crashed earlier and > I lost a bunch of stuff. > > Yes, it was the "My Sharona" Knack. Other 70's favorite from my one digit > days were Olivia Newton John, Shawn Cassidy and Kenny Rogers. > > Incidentally, there was a new wave radio station in Long Beach called > "knac", and I think they were named after the band. Later they became > heavy metal and now they're hispanic. > > And Will - mmmmmmmaybe! > > Ciao, > > Heather > I thought the music died around 1983. maybe I was lookingin the wrong place but everything got so plastic. lots of keyboards, not much good guitar playing. I never think of it in decades because the end never sounds like the beggining. If I had to pick 5 years it would be '78-'82. There was something there for everyone. U2, Dire Straits and the Pretenders came out and were at their best. Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson and Squeeze in their prime. Roxy, Bowie, Stones, Steely Dan still making great records. The Plimsouls, Jim Caroll, The Records, Haircut 100 I liked, The Clash, The Jam, Sex Pistols..... Then around 82-83 something happened and everything sounded like Flock of Seagulls and Cindy Lauper. There may have been good music around, but it wasn't on my radio. Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:17:18 -0400 From: "tfagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Warm Love in the misty mountain tops of my thoughts I think that I remember this ("Warm Love") as a Van Morrison cover. I later came to feel that whoever reported this recording actually meant "Crazy Love" and that "Warm Love" was never really recorded. I find it hard to believe that Bry would let ANY recordings sit in the cooler (besides half of the maligned "Horoscope"). - --TriTri - -----Original Message----- From: JObinv01@aol.com >I found a reference to an unreleased Bryan Ferry song called Warm Love while >browsing . > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:14:58 -0500 From: Victor Hastings Subject: Re: [AVALON] The nineties Jim Spellman wrote: > > Heather Marie Propes wrote: > > > Sorry about not including your comments. My computer crashed earlier and > > I lost a bunch of stuff. > > > > Yes, it was the "My Sharona" Knack. Other 70's favorite from my one digit > > days were Olivia Newton John, Shawn Cassidy and Kenny Rogers. > > > > Incidentally, there was a new wave radio station in Long Beach called > > "knac", and I think they were named after the band. Later they became > > heavy metal and now they're hispanic. > > > > And Will - mmmmmmmaybe! > > > > Ciao, > > > > Heather > > > > I thought the music died around 1983. maybe I was lookingin the wrong place > but everything got so plastic. > lots of keyboards, not much good guitar playing. I never think > of it in decades because the end never sounds like the beggining. > If I had to pick 5 years it would be '78-'82. There was something > there for everyone. U2, Dire Straits and the Pretenders came > out and were at their best. Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson and Squeeze > in their prime. Roxy, Bowie, Stones, Steely Dan still making > great records. The Plimsouls, Jim Caroll, The Records, > Haircut 100 I liked, The Clash, The Jam, xxx Pistols..... > Then around 82-83 something happened and everything sounded > like Flock of Seagulls and Cindy Lauper. There may have been > good music around, but it wasn't on my radio. > > Jim those 5 years were my college years and that was when my musical taste 'came of age.' after being raised on AM trifles like 'american pie' and the like i discovered most of the groups you mentioned above (plus a few you didn't mention, like human league, gang of four, nick lowe and the rockpile/brinsley schwartz mob. i guess i've become and old fart, because with a few exceptions (gin blossoms, smashing pumpkins) i've given up on these ... newfangled groups. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 02:22:10 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] Warm Love TriTri wrote: >I later came to feel that whoever reported this recording actually >meant "Crazy Love" and that "Warm Love" was never really recorded. I'd guess that you're right. And the owner of the page in question seems to think that He'll Have to Go was recorded in 1981 though received wisdom (meaning this list) files it under 'Bride Out-takes'. Crazy Love, too, was recorded then and remixed and reworked in 1981. I'd love to hear the original versions, stripped of their high-treble 80s veneer. Speaking of unreleased stuff, Rogan mentions that Ferry recorded with Barbara Gogan and Clive Temperley of The Passions after Flesh & Blood, mainly on "loose ends pulled together from out-takes dating back to The Bride Stripped Bare". Rogan quotes a Hot Press interview with Bryan: "[...] could be the album after next or something or they could be an EP... Some of those tracks are four years old so it wouldn't be right for them to be the next album." Perhaps these include the three that made it onto the Windswept EP in 1985 - - Crazy Love, Feel The Need, Broken Wings - and He'll Have to Go, included in The Ultimate Collection. But Ferry mentions 'about half a dozen solo tracks' so perhaps there's a slim chance of one or two more '70s songs in the vaults. And that's in addition to all those song titles that JV glimpsed while Bryan was being medicated, of course. Mr Vapor, where lurketh thou and why? Bahi - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:56:00 -0400 From: Jim Spellman Subject: Re: [AVALON] The nineties Victor Hastings wrote: > those 5 years were my college years and that was when my musical taste > 'came of age.' after being raised on AM trifles like 'american pie' and > the like i discovered most of the groups you mentioned above (plus a few > you didn't mention, like human league, gang of four, nick lowe and the > rockpile/brinsley schwartz mob. > > i guess i've become and old fart, because with a few exceptions (gin > blossoms, smashing pumpkins) i've given up on these ... newfangled > groups. > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon V, I loved Nick Lowe as well, Dave Edmunds too. I forgot Eddie Money, Pablo Cruise, Gino Vanelli, Hall&Oats, Cars, Talking Heads,English Beat It was a very good time, I thought it would go on forever... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 20:41:42 -0700 From: "alegna" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Website Personally. I really enjoy the articles. I like to read them and see how he evolved through the years, if his tastes changed. I know I have a few from the late 80's (saved the entire magazines!) and I too would be happy to contribute. I like the text and pictures myself. Have fun coding! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:41 PM Subject: [AVALON] Website > I am currently constructing a website. I would like to use my collection of :- > 7" (200 +) > 12" (50 +) > CD (180 +) > LP (100 +) > Tour Books, sheet music, newspaper & magazine cuttings and all sort of > memorabilia. > I would appreciate any suggestions to make the site what - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:09:17 -0700 From: Brian Folks Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Pictures Decophile wrote: > > In a message dated 5/3/99 12:44:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > JObinv01@aol.com > >writes: > > > >> A while back someone posted a web site for Anton Corbjin photos of Bryan. > >> Could anyone remind me what the website address is again??? > >http://www.photogenic.net/corbijn/ferry/ferry4.html > Just wondering, has anyone been able to spot Ferry in #9? (ferry9.html) > > Gene http://www.photogenic.net/corbijn/ferry/ferry9.html That's a picture of Ferry after Weight Watchers (hes' behind the tree) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #135 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest