From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #134 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, May 3 1999 Volume 04 : Number 134 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? ["Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? Johnny Fulton writes >Hello Avalonians, finally made it,(cheers Han), any Roxy fan worth their salt >knows that "For your pleasure" was Roxy's finest hour. I'm a Stranded man myself; we had a poll on the list a few months ago that may give you a fast-track on our predilections. Techno-Avalonions may let you know how to access the poll on the Avalon historical web... > GENERAL >1. Overall which albums interest you most, those of Roxy Music or the >Bryan Ferry solo albums? > >1. ROXY MUSIC ALBUMS 82.8% >2. BRYAN FERRY SOLO ALBUMS 6.9% > N/A 10.3% > > > > ROXY MUSIC >1. Is Roxy Music your favourite band? > >1. YES 69% >2. NO 20.7% >3. SOMETIMES 10.3% >(Everyone answere this question) > > >2. Do you believe that Roxy Music was the most influential band in the >70's? > >1. NO 62.1% >2. YES 31% > N/A 6.9% > > >3. Which of the two phases of Roxy Music interest you most? > >1. FIRST 79.3% >2. SECOND 13.8% >3. BOTH 3.4% > N/A 3.4% > > > >4. Which is your favourite Roxy Music album? > >1. COUNTRY LIFE 20.7% >2. SIREN 17.2% >= AVALON 17.2% >4. FOR YOUR PLEASURE 13.8% >5. STRANDED 12.1% >6. ROXY MUSIC 8.6% >7. VIVA 6.9% >8. FLESH & BLOOD 3.4% >(Everybody answered this question, Manifesto received no votes) > > > >5. Which Roxy Music album do you believe to be the most influential? > >1. ROXY MUSIC 47.9% >2. AVALON 24.1% >3. FOR YOUR PLEASURE 13.4% >4. COUNTRY LIFE 6.9% >5. STRANDED 4.6% > N/A 3.4% >(Siren, Manifesto, and Fleah & Blood received no votes) > > > >6. Which is your least favourite Roxy Music album? > >1. FLESH & BLOOD 34.1% >2. MANIFESTO 30.6% >3. SIREN 7.9% >4. STRANDED 6.9% >= none 6.9% >6. ROXY MUSIC 3.4% >= FOR YOUR PLEASURE 3.4% >= COUNTRY LIFE 3.4% > N/A 6.9% > > > >7. Which do you believe was Roxy Music's biggest influence, their style >or their music? > >1. MUSIC 62.1% >2. STYLE 24.1% > N/A 13.8% > > > >8. Which is your favorite Roxy Music song? > > >1. MOTHER OF PEARL 15.5% >2. IF THERE IS SOMETHING 8.6% (3.4% of this is the Viva track) >3. BEAUTY QUEEN 6.9% >= BOTH ENDS BURNING 6.9% >= SAME OLD SCENE 6.9% >= TRUE TO LIFE 6.9% >7. SONG FOR EUROPE 5.2% >= OUT OF THE BLUE 5.2% >= MORE THAN THIS 5.2% >= AVALON 5.2% >11. DO THE STRAND 3.4% >= IN EVERY DREAM HOME... 3.4% (on Viva) >= SUNSET 3.4% >= THRILL OF IT ALL 3.4% >= TO TURN YOU ON 3.4% >= VIRGINIA PLAIN 3.4% >17. PSALM 1.7% >= ALL I WANT IS YOU 1.7% > > > > >9. Which is your favourite Roxy Music song from each album? > > >ROXY MUSIC ALBUM >1. IF THERE IS SOMETHING 31% >2. LADYTRON 13.8% >3. RE-MAKE RE-MODEL 10.3% >= VIRGINIA PLAIN 10.3% >= 2HB 10.3% >= CHANCE MEETING 10.3% >7. SEA BREEZES 6.9% >8. THE BOB 3.4% > N/A 3.4% > > >FOR YOUR PLEASURE ALBUM >1. BEAUTY QUEEN 25.9% >2. FOR YOUR PLEASURE 17.2% >3. DO THE STRAND 13.8% >4. IN EVERY DREAM HOME.. 12.1% >= EDITIONS OF YOU 12.1% >6. GREY LAGOONS 6.9% >7. STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL 3.4% >8. THE BOGUS MAN 1.7% > N/A 6.9% > >STRANDED ALBUM >1. SONG FOR EUROPE 36.2% >2. MOTHER OF PEARL 27.6% >3. STREET LIFE 10.3% >4. JUST LIKE YOU 6.9% >= PSALM 6.9% >5. SUNSET 3.4% >6. AMAZONA 1.7% > N/A 6.9% > >COUNTRY LIFE >1. OUT OF THE BLUE 20.3% >2. THRILL OF IT ALL 18.3% >3. ALL I WANT IS YOU 12.1% >= CASANOVA 12.1% >= REALLY GOOD TIME 12.1% >6. PRAIRIE ROSE 10.3% >7. BITTER SWEET 7.9% >8. IF IT TAKES ALL NIGHT 3.4% > N/A 3.4% > >SIREN ALBUM >1. BOTH ENDS BURNING 37.9% >2. SENTIMENTAL FOOL 15.5% >3. LOVE IS THE DRUG 13.8% >4. END OF THE LINE 10.3% >5. JUST ANOTHER HIGH 8.6% >6. NIGHTINGALE 6.9% > N/A 6.9% > >MANIFESTO ALBUM >1. MANIFESTO 19% >2. ANGEL EYES 13.8% >= STILL FALLS THE RAIN 13.8% >= DANCE AWAY 13.8% >5. STRONGER THROUGH THE YEARS 6.9% >6. TRASH 3.4% > N/A 10.3% > >FLESH AND BLOOD ALBUM >1. MY ONLY LOVE 29.3% >2. SAME OLD SCENE 17.2% >3. OH YEAH 15.5% >4. RUNNING WILD 13.8% >5. NO STRANGE DELIGHT 6.9% >6. IN THE MIDNIGHT HOUR 3.4% >= OVER YOU 3.4% >= RAIN, RAIN, RAIN 3.4% > N/A 6.9% > >AVALON ALBUM >1. MORE THAN THIS 19% >= TRUE TO LIFE 19% >3. AVALON 17.2% >4. TO TURN YOU ON 13.8% >5. TAKE A CHANCE WITH ME 10.3% >6. THE MAIN THING 6.9% >7. WHILE MY HEART IS... 3.4% > > > > > > > > > > >10. What do you think is Roxy Music's best lyric? > >1. MOTHER OF PEARL 26.7% >2. IN EVERY DREAM HOME... 25% >3. SONG FOR EUROPE 5.2% >= LOVE IS THE DRUG 5.2% >5. VIRGINIA PLAIN 4.3% >= MANIFESTO 4.3% >7. BITTER SWEET 3.4% >= IF THERE IS SOMETHING 3.4% >= WHILE MY HEART IS... 3.4% >= OUT OF THE BLUE 3.4% >= TO TURN YOU ON 3.4% >= BOTH ENDS BURNING 3.4% >= DO THE STRAND 3.4% >14. RE-MAKE RE-MODEL 1.7% > > > >....Part 2 on coming soon > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 08:24:56 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Warm Love I found a reference to an unreleased Bryan Ferry song called Warm Love while browsing . www.algonet.se/~jonwar/ferry.html Regards J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:39:37 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Lost Lyrics of Avalonia As a Dutchman I'm not gone burn my fingers on the 'right' text. Undoubtedly I hurt you already to much with my highschool English. But maybe I can help you a little bit further. I've made a wav.file of the three lines. It's from a live version of the right stuff in which he sing this part quite clear compared to the Bete Noire version. Anyone with a soundcard in his computer can play it. so if you interested mail me privately and I mail you the file. regards Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:39:29 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? In a message dated 02/05/99 11:03:16 GMT Daylight Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: Which is your favourite Roxy Music album? > >1. COUNTRY LIFE 20.7% >2. SIREN 17.2% >= AVALON 17.2% >4. FOR YOUR PLEASURE 13.8% >5. STRANDED 12.1% >6. ROXY MUSIC 8.6% >7. VIVA 6.9% >8. FLESH & BLOOD 3.4% > >> Hi Martin, mmmm interesting run down. I would hazard a guess at most of the replies came from US Avalonians,anyway (if anyone is interested) my personal chart would be:- 1. For your pleasure. 2. Stranded. 3. Roxy Music. 4. Country Life. 5. Siren. 6. Avalon. 7. Flesh & Blood. 8. Manifesto. excluding live and compilation albums. Each to their own, I suppose. regards John F. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 10:53:12 -0700 From: BILL Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? Based on the listing I would arrange them in alphabetical order with the following rankings: 1. Avalon. 1. Country Life. 1. Flesh & Blood. 1. For your pleasure. 1. Manifesto. 1. Roxy Music. 1. Siren. 1. Stranded. I can't pick a favorite....... JFROXY@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 02/05/99 11:03:16 GMT Daylight Time, > martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: > > Which is your favourite Roxy Music album? > > > >1. COUNTRY LIFE 20.7% > >2. SIREN 17.2% > >= AVALON 17.2% > >4. FOR YOUR PLEASURE 13.8% > >5. STRANDED 12.1% > >6. ROXY MUSIC 8.6% > >7. VIVA 6.9% > >8. FLESH & BLOOD 3.4% > > >> > > Hi Martin, mmmm interesting run down. I would hazard a guess at most of the > replies came from US Avalonians,anyway (if anyone is interested) my personal > chart would be:- > > 1. For your pleasure. > 2. Stranded. > 3. Roxy Music. > 4. Country Life. > 5. Siren. > 6. Avalon. > 7. Flesh & Blood. > 8. Manifesto. > > excluding live and compilation albums. Each to their own, I suppose. regards > John F. > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 14:59:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: What is your favourite Roxy album? On Sat, 1 May 1999, Bahi Para wrote: > JFRoxy@aol.com wrote: > > >Hello Avalonians, finally made it,(cheers Han), any Roxy fan worth their salt > >knows that "For your pleasure" was Roxy's finest hour. > Welcome, JF Roxy! Sounds like you're quite the expert. Mais je vous en prie, don't you think their finest hour came just a few minutes in advance of "For Your Pleasure," with "If There Is Something?" Ciao, Heather Propes - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:38:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... Roxy Music had many phases, raucous R&B-influenced glam, disco, new wave, smooth "urban contemporary" (for lack of a better term), not to mention the dramatic vocals of Bryan Ferry. All of this genre crossing, and the long duration or Ferry's career, means that he has accumulated a highly heterogeneous base of fans, namely us. I mean, face it, we're all very different. We're not like a group of deadheads or 16-year-old Japanimation fans where everyone comes from the same scene. So I would like to ask everyone, what is (or was) the pop cultural height of your existence? Is it the 90's? Was it the 70's? And who are your other favorite bands from this climactic era, aside from Roxy Music? I'll go first: The climax of my pop-cultural existence was the 1980's. I was your typical dyed-hair and black clothed punk new waver. I was glued to MTV in the den of my Southern California tract home day after day watching Martha Quinn hand the mike over to JJ Jackson and then to Nina whatserface. At first it was Fun Boy Three, Nick Rhodes and Simon Le Bon, John Hughes films and the japanese look, later I found my 80's destiny when my first glimspe of Robert Smith threw me into fits of extasy. I was freed from the dread that I might somehow, someday have to date a surfer. I knew at that moment that there were pale, skinny men with black hair and petulent expressions, and that if I too, became skinny enough, I might win one too. I eventually did find a tall, punk boyfriend who looked like Nick Cave with a buzz cut. He got me out of trouble with the bully at school who said that I was a "poseur," and that was the last I heard from him after he met up with some girl from a local punk gang. I did find out later from my best friend that they only think he saw in me was that I had a "nice ass." After school, we would take long walks to smoke clove cigarettes. Or we would cajole our friends or our mom's to talk us to Melrose Avenue to buy pointy shoes and ogle the pale, spikey-haired men. Now I was in high school and I was becoming more serious, after all, I was off to college soon. Peter Murphy and Robert Smith gave way to David Sylvian, Bowie and 70's glam rock. Death rock was too silly and theatrical for us now. We watched Christiane F. regularly and though she was the coolest (don't ask me why). We teased our hair, wore pseudo-military inspired clothes, and listened to "Adolescent Sex" over and over again. This was about the time that I discovered Roxy Music, but not very well. I had an older "preppy punk" boyfriend at this time, with Converse Hi-Tops, spiked hair, khaki pants, and a purple and black Camaro which somehow impressed me. One night I went to his house and we made out for a long time to "Avalon." I felft very cool and adult, making out to "Avalon" with a guy who was old enough to buy beer, and had an apatment and a Camaro, when I was 17. Eventually he slept with my best friend, we broke up, and I forgot about Roxy Music and went back to the really important bands, like Guns N Roses. But I had had my first taste of Roxy after this experience, and I guess it stayed with me, becaus in 1993 I was given the opportunity to make out to "If There Is something," and after that I was a true believer, partially thanks to my preppy punk boyfriend of 1987. Well, that's it in a nutshell, un cadeau pour vous. Some of my other favorite bands are Pulp, Belle and Sebastian, and of course, Japan, New Order, and David Bowie. Ciao! http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:54:00 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Paul Thompson. Dave Killip wrote:- >The interesting angle on all this is that PT denied to me that the "crash and broken thumb" story had any foundation in truth at all! He would not, however, tell me why he hadn't drummed on the F+B tour, or whether it had ever been intended that he would.< I remember reading in an interview with BF in Melody Maker, circa May 1980, that Ferry had told Thompson his style was no longer suitable in Roxy and that he had asked him to leave.This was a bad mistake in Ferry's part, as much as Newmark was probably technically better than PT, his style was always too skittish and busy for Roxy,whereas PT was always more solid and kept the band together more. regards John F. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 18:09:21 -0700 From: dawndalion Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... Heather, Culture in the 90's??? The 90's SUCK big time on that front.... Ah, I share your love of the 80's....It was great....all of it....MTV, the fashion, the attitide, the 'way' it felt to be an American (beaming with pride at the 84 Olympics...also my Frosh year at USC, LA's Premiere rich kid school), and what discussion of the 80's would be complete withhout at least an Honourable Mention of Ronnie Raygun, and for our friends across the pond, Maggie Thatcher? Yeah, those were the daze, gang...the Big 80's. But I will not go on about the 80's. We were all there, somehow. How does the 90's compare to that great era? Well, I won't waste any more of my time or yours complaining about the 90's. We all know (deep down inside) that the 90's can't come close. Finally on a Roxy note: The 80's was the decade that the wonder of Bryan Ferry was revealed to me. Fabulous. Kiss, kiss, Dawne - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 18:11:52 -0700 From: dawndalion Subject: Re: [AVALON] let's get to know each other... Oh and favourite bands from the 80's?? Okay, I admit it: Duran Duran, U2, The Cars, OINGO BOINGO, David Bowie can't be left of the list simply b/c he is not a 'band,' X, Crowded House, Split Enz....there must be more.... Gotta go scare up some chow. Dawne S. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #134 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest