From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #130 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, April 29 1999 Volume 04 : Number 130 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Ring puncher ... ["Garratt, Chris" ] [AVALON] Simon Philips and Paul Thompson ["Killip family" ] Re: [AVALON] Banshees [Heather Marie Propes ] Re: [AVALON] NO BF-some old sh** I dug up w/a vapor referance ["Will" Subject: [AVALON] Ring puncher ... Boxing: When light heavys Brian Ferry of Dunfanaghy and Coleman Barrett of Olympic Galway set out to decide the last final of the National Youths boxing championships at the National Stadium yesterday it was very much a case of the best wine being kept till last. In a rousing contest of fluctuating fortunes Ferry, 6-11 in arrears going into the last round, turned the tables on Francie Barrett with a resounding 17-13 triumph. Barrett earlier looked the likely winner with solid combinations but he took a standing count of eight in the final session as Ferry's determination and skills won the day. It still meant that Connacht had lifted a memorable six out of a possible seven titles. IRISH TIMES 26/04/1999 P57 ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any person other than the addressee except with our prior written approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. 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I don't doubt that Paul Thompson is a better drummer for Roxy Music then any other, but Simon Philips on the first 801 album is better then Paul is on the second. I like Paul Thompson as the drummer on most Roxy albums. I heard a rumour way back that he was injuried, and had to give up drumming -- is that true? Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:43:21 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] Gas Board/Banshees singles >Gas Board were an 8-piece outfit including a brass section. BF put them >together when at Newcastle University. All members were (I think) fellow >students. > >I'm not aware of any recordings. I never heard them play. I think they were >R&B at heart. Brian was also in a band called The Banshees who released three singles for Columbia in the UK Don't say Goodnight/I Got a Woman Colombia DB-7361 1964 Big Building/Mockingbird Colombia DB-7530 1965 Yes Indeed/I'm Gonna Keep On Loving You Colombia DB-7752 1965 I don't have copy's but maybe some of our BIG collectors? John maybe? BTW this isn't a 'monster of flangebracket' kind of mailing. Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:03:56 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: [AVALON] [FWD] ica concert on new web site Sighting, from another list... -wfs >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:33:52 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: ica concert on new web site >From: "Charlie Tellerman" > >tuesday nights gig at the ica was filmed and will be shown on a new web site >"beware the cat" which will be up and running sometime in june. the concert >was great with a superb versions of cable hogue and fear being highlights >for me. for those of you who care brian ferry was in the audience.so far the >gigs have improved each night with changes in the shows structure and >material - last night john started with a reasonably short reading of his >bio followed by spoken word versions of cable hogue and about seven other >cale songs plus hallelujah (which included a great sample of brando >screaming "stella !") and finally a new spoken word performance of some >poetry by leo marks and which featured a great guest vocalist astrid from >goyas dress. the dj adam dorn provided a great twist to familiar material >and basically if you weren't there you've missed something pretty special. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:07:42 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Simon Philips and Paul Thompson At 20.45 +0200 99-04-26, Killip family wrote: >C'mon Daniel, lets have an apology for Paul! I don't doubt that Paul Thompson is a better drummer for Roxy Music then any other, but Simon Philips on the first 801 album is better then Paul is on the second. I like Paul Thompson as the drummer on most Roxy albums. I heard a rumour way back that he was injuried, and had to give up drumming -- is that true? He broke his thumb after he crashed with his motor. That was right before the flesh and blood tour. But at that time lots of studiowork was already done by other drummers even on Manifesto. Bryan said that his way of drumming didn't fit the new kind of songs. And he also said he practice not enough for a professional drummer. Daniel I like that Curtis album too especially the titlesong and the song with Aretha Franklin are extra-ordinary. I think you're like me a R&B/ soul lover. Listen to Johnny Adams 'Man Of My Word', one of my favourite 1998 albums. Han Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:33:42 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Simon Philips and Paul Thompson At 16.07 +0200 99-04-28, Han Snijders wrote: >He broke his thumb after he crashed with his motor. That was right before >the flesh and blood tour. But at that time lots of studiowork was already >done by other drummers even on Manifesto. Bryan said that his way of >drumming didn't fit the new kind of songs. And he also said he practice not >enough for a professional drummer. So what does Paul Thompson do now? >Daniel I like that Curtis album too especially the titlesong and the song >with Aretha Franklin are extra-ordinary. I think you're like me a R&B/ soul >lover. Listen to Johnny Adams 'Man Of My Word', one of my favourite 1998 >albums. Is this the guy who recorded with a lot of famous pewople, and died during the sessions? Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:46:12 -0400 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] Gas Board/Banshees singles I haven't heard the Banshee singles, but I understand they don't feature Ferry. If I remember correctly from my reading about it, the group was formed at Newcastle University, and when the band members decided to leave and go 'pro', Ferry chose to stay on and finish his degree. Ferry has always said that there are no pre-Roxy recordings of him in existence. ( " I've got myself well covered, mate!" he said.) Does anyone know the line-up of THE BANSHEES at the time of their recordings? Are there any Roxy links? Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:44:47 PDT From: "Heather D." Subject: Re: [AVALON] NO BF-some old sh** I dug up w/a vapor referance Greetings! Just two weeks ago I saw a copy of "Suspiria", the great film by Dario Argento(in fact I just recieved a copy of "Tenenbrae" a week or so ago) at the local Suncoast store over here in the US. If its at Suncoast there's a good chance it in print or back in print and can at least be ordered. If not, eBay is always a good place to check on the internet. Well I hope that helps. Good tidings to all. HD > I was looking through some old mail and found this copy of Vapor's >profile. I would imagine he was just kidding but I just realised that I own >a copy of the movie he lists as his favorite, "Daughters of Darkness" (on >DVD no less). I thought it was going to be pretty hot but it wasn't as good >as "Cemetary Girls" or "Grave Desires" or possibly even "Vampyres" for that >matter. I have been looking for a copy of "Sysperia" which is very strange, >but can't find it. Anyone else into the B grade vampire/horror(?) movies? I _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:52:39 +0100 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] Banshees The Banshees were from Sunderland, a city near BF's home town. I've no idea what the line-up was but BF is definately not on the recordings. According to legend BF was recuited to sing for the Banshees (in 1963 aged 18) by a friend from his cycling club! They played pubs/clubs in the North East. Not the smoky night club situations BF later came to enjoy I suspect! CPL 593H - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:42:45 +0100 From: "Killip family" Subject: [AVALON] Simon Philips and Paul Thompson I agree and accept Daniel Atterborn's observation that Simon Philips is better on the first 801 album than PT on the second. As to the "injury" rumour Daniel, I note that you mention you heard it "way back". The most famous PT injury rumour was the suggestion that although he did not play on "Flesh and Blood" he was due to be the drummer on the "F+B" tour. However, goes the story, a motor cycle accident on the eve of the tour, resulting in a broken thumb, prevented him appearing - the tour drummer was thus Andy Newmark, the album drummer. (I caught the two Wembley Arena dates of the "F+B" tour, summer 1980, and Newmark was OK). The interesting angle on all this is that PT denied to me that the "crash and broken thumb" story had any foundation in truth at all! He would not, however, tell me why he hadn't drummed on the F+B tour, or whether it had ever been intended that he would. I don't think he is injured and has had to give up drumming. He was recording in the mid-eighties with the Angelic Upstarts, a band from the northeast of England and the last I heard was stillaround that part of the world. In the October 1998 article in the London Evening Standard, suggesting a Roxy reformation, I think it quoted Phil Manzanera saying that "it would be nice if PT was included...." or words to that effect. I'll check my records and let you know! CPL 593H - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:12:41 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson In a message dated 28/04/99 14:36:24 GMT, you write: << So what does Paul Thompson do now? >> I saw his name on a few Concrete Blonde albums. J.O'B. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:53:11 -0400 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Good Drum Talk Killip family wrote: > ..... However, goes the story, a motor cycle accident on the eve of the > tour, resulting in a broken thumb, prevented him appearing - the tour > drummer was thus Andy Newmark, the album drummer. (I caught the two Wembley > Arena dates of the "F+B" tour, summer 1980, and Newmark was OK)..... Wasn't the album drummer Alan Shwartzburg? Newmark was on Avalon and was much better w/ the Ferry solo stuff in the 80's than Roxy, see SNL '88 w/ Johnny Marr. Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:03:06 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Mark Sturdy Subject: [AVALON] The Gas Board > Gas Board were an 8-piece outfit including a brass section. BF put them > together when at Newcastle University. All members were (I think) fellow > students. Beyond the well-worn stuff about Ferry, Simpson and Porter being in the band, one of the brass section went on to become a successful film director. I forget his name, but Bryan mentioned it in a Q interview around the time of Taxi. Does anybody know the full lineup? Also, have any photos emerged? There's a pic in Rex Balfor's Bryan Ferry Story book (1976) of Bryan singing with a band which I presume to be The Banchees, so it's not inconcievable that they have. Recordings? I'm sure Bryan must have some rehearsal tapes under his bed or something . . . Mark - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:20:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Banshees But nothing to do with Siouxsie Sioux, I guess, eh? C'mon all you goths! Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch@midway.uchicago.edu On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Killip family wrote: > > The Banshees were from Sunderland, a city near BF's home town. I've no idea > what the line-up was but BF is definately not on the recordings. According > to legend BF was recuited to sing for the Banshees (in 1963 aged 18) by a > friend from his cycling club! > They played pubs/clubs in the North East. Not the smoky night club > situations BF later came to enjoy I suspect! > > CPL 593H > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:15:21 -0500 From: "Will" Subject: Re: [AVALON] NO BF-some old sh** I dug up w/a vapor referance OK then, see!... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Matan To: Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] NO BF-some old sh** I dug up w/a vapor referance > > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Will wrote: > > > So am I to take that as a yes you did make it up, or a yes you didn't make > > it up, Colleen? > > > Yes. > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:01:17 EDT From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson In a message dated 28/04/99 17:52:31 GMT, you write: << The most famous PT injury rumour was the suggestion that although he did not play on "Flesh and Blood" he was due to be the drummer on the "F+B" tour. >> I have a video of "Over You", which I sent to Martin to become part of the video compilation, which shows Paul Thompson on drums, so he was still obviously part of the band at that time even though he wasn't playing on any of the Flesh + Blood album. I had hoped that the Paul Stomp book was going to reveal more of this mystery. J.O'B. P.S. Did Paul really write Your Application's Failed, or was this just to let him get some songwriting royalties ????? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:39:35 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Simon Philips and Paul Thompson - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Daniel Atterbom Aan: avalon@smoe.org Datum: woensdag 28 april 1999 16:37 Onderwerp: [AVALON] Simon Philips and Paul Thompson >Daniel I like that Curtis album too especially the titlesong and the song >with Aretha Franklin are extra-ordinary. I think you're like me a R&B/ soul >lover. Listen to Johnny Adams 'Man Of My Word', one of my favourite 1998 >albums. Is this the guy who recorded with a lot of famous pewople, and died during the sessions? I know he died of cancer short after he finished this album. The label is Rounderrecords. Han l Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #130 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest