From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #101 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, March 29 1999 Volume 04 : Number 101 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? [Tim Kendrick ] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ["Angel Colon" ] [AVALON] hammond [Bahi Para ] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] hammond [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: More trivia questions [Mark Sturdy ] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #97--Cover Me [RODEISLRED@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ["Han Snijders en Willy van der Ge] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ["Will" ] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ["Will" ] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] Is An Established Performer Spiffy? Or Are They "Spiffing"? [jspellman@banet.n] Re: [AVALON] Is An Established Performer Spiffy? Or Are They "Spiffing"? [Kicki Gustafsson ] Re: [AVALON] what's wrong with this picture? ["Decophile" ] Re: [AVALON] & when you get that feeling ["Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Bahi worries that he shouldn't have used the word " Cover' to describe the front of a box. Too right - it's the ' front of the box ' or the ' sleeve.' Cough cough. Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:59:40 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Arnie remarks that Talking Heads and Bryan both covered TAKE ME TO THE RIVER. Absolutely. ( The Green is better than either.) I'm not disputing that. All I'm suggesting is that, if the term ' cover version ' means anything, and I'm following my instinct here, I haven't looked it up, it isn't simply to record a song that someone else has done before. It's more specific than that. If Coltrane's improvisations are not ' cover versions,' then how come Ella's are? She was a jazz musician, an improvising musician, just as Coltrane was. Or how about Betty Carter? Every bit as complex a musician as Coltrane, only she used her voice. If you were to suggest that because she sang rather than played, she wasn't a musician, I know that Carter, were she still alive, would've kneed you in the balls. As I've said, I think ' cover ' is a term specifically used in rock and pop. YOU might think Sinatra's recordings are covers, HE didn't think in those terms. As CARRICKFERGUS is an ancient song, and it has been forever in the public domain, I maintain it can't be ' covered'. What does it matter that Ferry's voice isn't classical, but Pears' is? It don't, in my view! If Pears' versions of folk songs aren't covers, ( and he wouldn't have used the term or possibly even have heard of it, and it's part of the job of listeners to try to understand the way ARTISTS THINK!) why is it that Ferry's are? And only a very perverse person would describe Pavarrotti's NESSUN DORMA as a 'cover'.So surely we all agree that the term ' cover ' IS narrower than Colleen suggested. Does any of this matter? No, though it makes a change from trivia questions about Eddie Jobson! Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:06:01 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >Bahi worries that he shouldn't have used the word " Cover' to describe >the front of a box. Too right - it's the ' front of the box ' or the ' >sleeve.' > >Cough cough. > >Tim The how do you explain the term "cover girl", honeybuny? /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:08:20 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to Love Part 2 My dear, you are SUCH a clever thing! Tim P.S. I have just this second learned how to cut and paste. Here is the wonderful result. Oh, technology! > Well put and I agree 100%, although I did just say to this chick the other > day that Sade was the female equivilant of Bryan Ferry. For the most part > you are saying that you have to be an exceptional human being to get in > touch with the full Mamouna/Bryan Ferry effect, and it is so easy to feel so > superior after you get it. Like being let in on one of the great mysteries > of life, in tune with a higher force, hightened insight into most things > usually incomprehensible in some vague way, a wierd intangible feeling of > knowing and understanding the deeper, darker, more sensual things in life, > yet still able to interact with the little people and even feel compassion > for them because they don't get it, and even at times see that that is > exactly what is keeping them out of tune with the universe. Being > enlightened is both a beautiful gift and a heavy burden, we are just left to > deal with it. > > Will > > translation: this is a really nice day > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Kendrick > To: > Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 8:41 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to Love Part 2 > > > > I thought the interview quite interesting. > > > > Strange, I knew MAMOUNA wasn't a smash hit, but it has never crossed my > > mind to think of it as a dismal failure. Most albums as emotionally > > elusive as this don't get into the top ten album chart, but ( if I > > remember right) in Britain it got that far, albeit briefly. > > It remains to me one of the highest points of Ferry's music, and of > > pop music generally. But I was acquainted at the time with a Bowie fan > > who ( perhaps this was a year or two after MAMOUNA's release) was > > pleased to tedium with 1: OUTSIDE, and when I thrust MAMOUNA on him > > he was rather contemptuous of " that sort of music." In other words, > > because MAMOUNA used dance rhythms, as later Ferry often does, it > > couldn't possibly be "serious." This may be a key to the problem: > > " Serious rock fans," whoever they may be, are closed to music short on > > boring huitar solos, while dance fans (understandably) aren't drawn > > to Ferry's frosty, cerebral, complex musical and lyrical ideas. The > > album is also possibly too demanding to fit the Sade/ Enya "atmosphere" > > genre to which, in some people's opinion, AVALON belongs. > > What this suggests is that listeners who think they're open to mew ideas > > and approaches are as closed as most everybody else. This rich and > > extraordinary record fails to satisfy precisely the people who, if they > > actually worked on it, would find they'd missed one of the highest > > points of nineties popular music. Sad really. > > > > Tim > > > > is MAMOUNA'S contradiction that > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:30:37 -0500 From: "Angel Colon" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Bravo for you Tim!! I love this whole "cover" thread! It's a riot!! I happen to agree with your sentiments, although I am unsure if the definition of cover version is as specific as you think. Either way it's been enlightening! Angel - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kendrick To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >Bahi worries that he shouldn't have used the word " Cover' to describe >the front of a box. Too right - it's the ' front of the box ' or the ' >sleeve.' > >Cough cough. > >Tim > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:41:56 -0500 From: "Angel Colon" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? The top piece of paper on a magazine is the cover, therefore the lady who appears on the cover is a cover girl. What does that have to do with recording someone else's music? Angel (obviously needing more coffee because I'm not getting it) - -----Original Message----- From: Kicki Gustafsson To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >>Bahi worries that he shouldn't have used the word " Cover' to describe >>the front of a box. Too right - it's the ' front of the box ' or the ' >>sleeve.' >> >>Cough cough. >> >>Tim > >The how do you explain the term "cover girl", honeybuny? >/Kicki G > >------------------------ >Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 >http://www.op.se >http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:18:23 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >The top piece of paper on a magazine is the cover, therefore the lady who >appears on the cover is a cover girl. >What does that have to do with recording someone else's music? > >Angel (obviously needing more coffee because I'm not getting it) I was of course thinking of Kari-Anne and her pals. And I meant it as a joke. I'm sorry, but I thought that was _obvious_ . /Kicki G - who does know what a cover girl is (been one herself, actually) - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:02:48 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] Mammon Things get horribly etymological in a second - you might wish to run for [sleeve]. The Concise Oxford Dictionary gives the following history for the word Mammon: Middle English via the Late Latin "Mam(m)ona" and Greek "mamonas" from Aramaic "mamon" - riches. The online Merriam Webster says: Etymology: Late Latin mammona, from Greek mamOna, from Aramaic mAmOnA riches It gives the following definition: Material wealth or possessions, especially as having a debasing influence. Interesting that there might be a link, however remote. Not the sort of topic that's usually [performed] here, of course. Bahi - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:58:33 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] hammond According to the Eno list, a new collaboration between the domed one and someone called Hammond is scheduled for release - the person who posted the information doesn't know who Hammond might be and neither do I. Anyone here have any clues? Bahi > 01. Code > 02. Damage > 03. Something Orange > 04. Gerrard St 4.15 > 05. Sky Becomes A Loop > 06. Room Without Lights > 07. Lose That Skin > 08. Blue Kind Of Drug > 09. Kinky Ink > 10. Coming Up For Air > 11. Burst > 12. Hip Hop Flipperty Flop > 13. Sky Becomes A Reprise > > >Expected release date 4/6/99 - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:12:59 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Kicki asked: > The how do you explain the term "cover girl", honeybuny? And what about the colloquialism of "covers" for the various assortments of sheets, blankets, comforters, and the like, including the Polish word we always used in my house but which I cannot spell? Does the "established performer" criterion come into play in this usage as well? Confused, Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:24:52 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >Kicki asked: > >> The how do you explain the term "cover girl", honeybuny? I of course meant "honeybunny". Sorry. /K - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:45:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Sturdy Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #97 > Among others who have publicly expressed a strong desire to record with this > artist, > David Bowie, Brian Eno, Bryan Ferry and Kevin Ayers are chief suspects > as being "the mysterious, unknown benefactor" who, in November of '74, > secured Abby Road studios to bankroll a solo album for this artist > despite the fact he was known to be flaky and undependable. > Being true to form, the artist rarely showed up and only a few riffs > and a song title was all that he produced. The whole > thing was finally scrapped. Who is this artist? Syd Barrett! Am I too late? Mark - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:05:47 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] hammond In a message dated 3/28/99 11:05:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, bahi@macnet.co.uk writes: << According to the Eno list, a new collaboration between the domed one and someone called Hammond is scheduled for release - the person who posted the information doesn't know who Hammond might be and neither do I. Anyone here have any clues? >> Possibly, Bahi, you misread it. I think it's supposed to read "Hanson". Arnie (Laughing all the way) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:26:30 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Sturdy Subject: [AVALON] Re: More trivia questions On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > 1. What was the name of the band that Eddie Jobson left to join Roxy Music? Curved Air > 2. There is another connection between that band and Roxy Music, with a bit > of drug references and policemen involved, what is it? Ummm... something to do with Stewart Copeland, once drummer in Curved Air and later Police man? Can't think of the Roxy connection though. > 3. What was the connection between Eddie Jobson and Bryan Ferry, before > Jobson joined Roxy? Their sisters knew each other > 4. In an interview that I did with Eddie Jobson in 1980 or 1981, when he > toured with Jethro Tull, he said that he (jobson) played X number of > people's part in Roxy during his stint in the band, what number is X? Randomly, three. > 5. The live version of "For Your Pleasure" is not recorded in London as > stated on the B-side, but is in fact, imho, recorded where? Neptune. Mark - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:01:38 EST From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #97--Cover Me In a message dated 3/28/99 4:48:14 PM, pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes: <<> Being true to form, the artist rarely showed up and only a few riffs > and a song title was all that he produced. The whole > thing was finally scrapped. Who is this artist? Syd Barrett! Am I too late?>> Already been 'covered,' Mark - --red - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:23:06 +0200 From: "Han Snijders en Willy van der Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Jim wrote: You can't cover a song like Carickfeurgus because >it's unknown who made it famous, kind of like covering Happy Birthday. The lyrics of Carrickfergus are from the 18th century, the music is from the early sixties. It is written by Ceoltoiri Cualann. In the late fifties early sixties there was a great interest in that old lyrics but the music was unknown so during that time lots of music was composed to perform the songs. BTW is sonnet 18 a cover? Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:34:13 -0600 From: "Will" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? > About cover versions: > > So by your definition, Peter Pears, on his classic recordings of > ancient english folk songs arranged by his partner Benjamin Britten is > doing 'cover versions'? A new recording of AIDA, it not being the first, > is therefore a ' cover version'? John Coltrane's improvisations on > THESE FOOLISH THINGS is a 'cover version'? > This seems like an accurate statement. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:44:40 -0600 From: "Will" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? > > >> 33) Name two Roxy/Ferry music videos the Fabulous Jerry Hall graced with her > >> appearance? > > Let's Stick Together & The Price Of Love > > Kickig > I hope it's not too picky to mention that. technically this is wrong, she only appeared in these videos, she didn't grace them with her appearance. Was that too picky? Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 20:54:00 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >> >> >> 33) Name two Roxy/Ferry music videos the Fabulous Jerry Hall graced >with her >> >> appearance? >> >> Let's Stick Together & The Price Of Love >> >> Kickig >> > I hope it's not too picky to mention that. technically this is wrong, she >only appeared in these videos, she didn't grace them with her appearance. >Was that too picky? > > Will She certainly graced the Price of love-video. She looks spiffing there! /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:54:31 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V4 #97--Cover Me RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/28/99 4:48:14 PM, pyumi@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes: > > <<> Being true to form, the artist rarely showed up and only a few riffs > > and a song title was all that he produced. The whole > > thing was finally scrapped. Who is this artist? > > Syd Barrett! Am I too late?>> > > Already been 'covered,' Mark > > --red > Ba-doom, Budaboom, and Touche! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:11:46 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Tim Kendrick wrote: > ....Or how about Betty Carter? Every bit as complex a musician > as Coltrane, only she used her voice. If you were to suggest that > because she sang rather than played, she wasn't a musician, I know that > Carter, were she still alive, would've kneed you in the balls...... > > ...Does any of this matter? No, though it makes a change from trivia > questions about Eddie Jobson! I was wondering why I felt this pain in my midsection this morning.I thought it was from the honeybunney I met at the singles bar last night. She turned out to be not so sweet. Though I agree a singer is every bit as much a musician, to knock the Eddie Jobson trivia is shameful. Where else does it belong? Not just trivia, but some of the best darn EJ limericks I've ever seen originated from this list.... Jim (in a rather high pitched voice) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:33:07 EST From: RODEISLRED@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is An Established Performer Spiffy? Or Are They "Spiffing"? In a message dated 3/28/99 7:52:19 PM, kicki.gustafsson@op.se writes: <> Kicki, Please define "spiffing." Before Tim does, I PRAY TO GOD*** - --red - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:45:22 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is An Established Performer Spiffy? Or Are They "Spiffing"? >In a message dated 3/28/99 7:52:19 PM, kicki.gustafsson@op.se writes: > >< >/Kicki G>> > >Kicki, Please define "spiffing." Before Tim does, I PRAY TO GOD*** > >--red :-D /Kicki - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 22:09:41 +0100 From: Bahi Para Subject: [AVALON] & when you get that feeling Today in the Sunday Times, Sharleen Spiteri is quoted as saying that the new record from her band Texas will be comparable (in quality) to one of the great Roxy Music albums. Bahi - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:44:16 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is An Established Performer Spiffy? Or Are They "Spiffing"? RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/28/99 7:52:19 PM, kicki.gustafsson@op.se writes: > > < > /Kicki G>> > > Kicki, Please define "spiffing." Before Tim does, I PRAY TO GOD*** > > --red Spliffing is what I did this morning to get rid of my hangover..... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 23:03:17 +0200 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is An Established Performer Spiffy? Or Are They "Spiffing"? >RODEISLRED@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 3/28/99 7:52:19 PM, kicki.gustafsson@op.se writes: >> >> <> >> /Kicki G>> >> >> Kicki, Please define "spiffing." Before Tim does, I PRAY TO GOD*** >> >> --red > >Spliffing is what I did this morning to get rid of my hangover..... Personally, I try to drink lots of water. /Kicki G - always spiffing - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:00:16 -0500 From: "tfagan" Subject: [AVALON] what's wrong with this picture? In the April ish of Harpers & Queen they select the 50 sexiest men (Brits). #47: Bryan Ferry -- #1 Jools Holland!! - --TriTri - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:49:41 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] what's wrong with this picture? - -----Original Message----- From: tfagan To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 6:09 PM Subject: [AVALON] what's wrong with this picture? >In the April ish of Harpers & Queen they select the 50 sexiest men (Brits). >#47: Bryan Ferry -- #1 Jools Holland!! > >--TriTri Jools? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:50:33 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Syd - -----Original Message----- From: Roberto Galvez To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 3:19 AM Subject: [AVALON] Syd > >For those curious guys out there: there is a certain Kevin Ayers official >homepage where there is a guestbook where we'll see a post by Roger >Barrett.....the manager of Ayers ,who has that page told is the real Syd. > >Roberto. Roger is indeed Syd`s real name. Syd was a nickname he had since infancy. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 18:51:39 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] & when you get that feeling - -----Original Message----- From: Bahi Para To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 4:09 PM Subject: [AVALON] & when you get that feeling >Today in the Sunday Times, Sharleen Spiteri is quoted as saying that the >new record from her band Texas will be comparable (in quality) to one of >the great Roxy Music albums. > >Bahi That`s kind of subjective, isn`t it? I was on a road trip to the Grand Canyon once and stopped somewhere in New Mexico for something to eat. On the menu was "New Orleans Style Seafood Gumbo." Having a sick sense of humor, I went ahead and ordered it and was brought a bowl of tomato soup with fish in it. Lesson learned: Be highly suspicious of anything with "comparable to" or has "(fill in the blank) Style" in front of it. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:23:17 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? Me: >"When She Walks in The Room". Colleen: >Nor, if I recollect correctly, was "Crazy Love" for Van. My mistake -- and I deliberated one -- if I'm not mistaken again there's a another song with the name "When She Walks in The Room" written about a woman that Van Morrison was in love with and wrote a love song for, not that I can remember the name of the latter... Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:23:43 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? At 17.18 +0200 99-03-28, Kicki Gustafsson wrote: >/Kicki G - who does know what a cover girl is (been one herself, actually) And have I seen it, being Swedish? Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:21:05 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Marvin Gaye (was: trivia? you want trivia?) At 16.39 +0200 99-03-27, jspellman@banet.net wrote: >This is what I thought of a cover as well. Glady's Night didn't >write "Heard It Through The Grapevine" but it was written >for them. Marvin Gaye went on to cover it after the GN version >was a hit, even though it was written by the same Motown writers >he used early on. You can't cover a song like Carickfeurgus because >it's unknown who made it famous, kind of like covering Happy Birthday. Sorry to correct you here. The Marvin Gaye version of the Norman Whitfield/ Barrett Strong song "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" was the first one recorded. Barry Gordy vetoed it as a single, so Norman Whitfield recorded another version with Gladys Knight and the Pips. The Gaye version was in the vault for a year or so and then released when Gaye was not recording much new material, unhappy with his marriage to Gordy's sister Anna, unhappy with his musical career and wanting to become an American football player for the Detroit Lions. After the succes of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine", Marvin Gaye got some independence from Motown, producing himself and releasing the masterpieces "What's Going On" and "Ley's Get It on". Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:35:39 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? At 15.59 +0200 99-03-28, Tim Kendrick wrote: >Does any of this matter? No, though it makes a change from trivia >questions about Eddie Jobson! So I'll better close this then. :-) But like Jim Spellman, I like trivia. At 19.26 +0200 99-03-28, Mark Sturdy wrote: >> 1. What was the name of the band that Eddie Jobson left to join Roxy Music? > >Curved Air Correct. > >> 2. There is another connection between that band and Roxy Music, with a bit >> of drug references and policemen involved, what is it? > >Ummm... something to do with Stewart Copeland, once drummer in Curved Air >and later Police man? Can't think of the Roxy connection though. Yes, the guitar player in Police was Andy Sumners and he played with Kevin Ayers who was on the same live album as Eno in 1974. Half right. >> 3. What was the connection between Eddie Jobson and Bryan Ferry, before >> Jobson joined Roxy? > >Their sisters knew each other Correct, they were friends, or room mates, in college. >> 4. In an interview that I did with Eddie Jobson in 1980 or 1981, when he >> toured with Jethro Tull, he said that he (jobson) played X number of >> people's part in Roxy during his stint in the band, what number is X? > >Randomly, three. Correct, Jobson played both Ferry's, Eno's and Jobson's parts. >> 5. The live version of "For Your Pleasure" is not recorded in London as >> stated on the B-side, but is in fact, imho, recorded where? > >Neptune. Wrong, Stockholm 1976 of course. Mark Sturdy got 3,5 correct and is therefore the winner. If you want to claim your price, e-mail your snealmail address privately. Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. 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