From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #98 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, March 26 1999 Volume 04 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Free Programme- New Question [Jeff Kay ] [AVALON] From Feb. 98 ["Garratt, Chris" ] [AVALON] More trivia questions [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] More trivia questions [jspellman@banet.net] [AVALON] More trivia questions [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Bonus Tracks [jspellman@banet.net] [AVALON] More trivia questions [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] More trivia questions [Kicki Gustafsson ] [AVALON] RE: Program[me] is better than a damn [Jim Donato ] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ["Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Free Programme- New Question Syd Barrett Decophile wrote: > Ok, here we go again. The first person to correctly answer this question > gets the programme. But don`t worry if you don`t get it. I`ve scanned the > whole thing (including that goofy French cigarette ad) and will post it for > everyone to download. > Ready > Set > Go > > Among others who have publicly expressed a strong desire to record with this > artist, > David Bowie, Brian Eno, Bryan Ferry and Kevin Ayers are chief suspects > as being "the mysterious, unknown benefactor" who, in November of '74, > secured Abby Road studios to bankroll a solo album for this artist > despite the fact he was known to be flaky and undependable. > Being true to form, the artist rarely showed up and only a few riffs > and a song title was all that he produced. The whole > thing was finally scrapped. Who is this artist? > Good luck > > Gene > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:59:05 -0600 (CST) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] Free Roxy Tour Programme!!!!! On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > At 23.06 +0100 99-03-24, Decophile wrote: > >>1) What`s the most popular/best selling Roxy bootleg of all time? > > Me: > >Stockholm 1976 under various names. Is that the one with the "stencil" logo in red and the picture of Bryan in his Nazi outfit on the cover? If so, I have it and love it. > >>2) In '76 while still on tour with Roxy, Eddie Jobson was invited to join > >>this band but he turned them down to record a record with another. Who did he > >>>turn down and who did he record with? > > The latter is Frank Zappa, a wild guess: the Average White Band. Roxy Music went on tour but another band came to lure Eddie Jobson away and now we can say that this session guitarist will never go away! > > >>3) The 70`s band Traffic slams the glam movement in their '72 recording of > >>"Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys", but it is directed at one band in > >>particular. Who were these high heeled boys and why was Traffic slamming > >>them? > > Mott, of course, obvious when you know it. > This is interesting, Daniel, I wonder why. Was it becaues of Ian Hunter's silly hairdo? (really, I love Mott the Hoople) Ciao! Heather Propes - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:26:06 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Free Roxy Tour Programme!!!!! At 13.59 +0100 99-03-26, Heather Marie Propes wrote: Decophile wrote: >>>1) What`s the most popular/best selling Roxy bootleg of all time? >> >Me: >>Stockholm 1976 under various names. Heather >Is that the one with the "stencil" logo in red and the picture of Bryan in >his Nazi outfit on the cover? If so, I have it and love it. My copy has a different cover. >>2) In '76 while still on tour with Roxy, Eddie Jobson was invited to join >>this band but he turned them down to record a record with another. Who did he >>turn down and who did he record with? >The latter is Frank Zappa, a wild guess: the Average White Band. I meant Kokomo, of course, but it was also wrong. :-) >Roxy Music went on tour >but another band came to lure >Eddie Jobson away >and now we can say >that this session guitarist will never go away! > Pretty good! >>>3) The 70`s band Traffic slams the glam movement in their '72 recording of >>>"Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys", but it is directed at one band in >>>particular. Who were these high heeled boys and why was Traffic slamming >>>them? >> >> Mott, of course, obvious when you know it. >> >This is interesting, Daniel, I wonder why. Was it becaues of Ian Hunter's >silly hairdo? (really, I love Mott the Hoople) Mott was a band that came from another background then Steve Winwood, and Ian Hunter is probably older then Winwood, although Hunter is reluctant to state his age. Winwood has always been much more self-confident and more succesful then Hunter. Which is only fair, since Winwood is a better musician. Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:43:02 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] More trivia questions More trivia questions 1. What was the name of the band that Eddie Jobson left to join Roxy Music? 2. There is another connection between that band and Roxy Music, with a bit of drug references and policemen involved, what is it? 3. What was the connection between Eddie Jobson and Bryan Ferry, before Jobson joined Roxy? 4. In an interview that I did with Eddie Jobson in 1980 or 1981, when he toured with Jethro Tull, he said that he (jobson) played X number of people's part in Roxy during his stint in the band, what number is X? 5. The live version of "For Your Pleasure" is not recorded in London as stated on the B-side, but is in fact, imho, recorded where? And for prices, hum... Somewhere I have a Roxy tour programme from the 70's that I'll promise to scan and snailmail to everyone that get at least one question right. Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:14:21 -0000 From: "Garratt, Chris" Subject: [AVALON] From Feb. 98 http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/pastiss/feb98/html/sosnews9.htm ______________________________________________________________________ The information in this email is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. It is not to be relied upon by any person other than the addressee except with our prior written approval. If no such approval is given, we will not accept any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on such information. Unauthorised recipients are required to maintain confidentiality. 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Do you still know what is going on with Eddie? The U.K. newsletter, In the Dead of Night, seems to have stopped although there was no official death notice. I'm just curious what he's been up to (besides Nash Bridges work) and when, if ever, the supposed U.K. "reunion" (now pretty much Jobson and Friends) album will be out. Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:39:09 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More trivia questions - ---------- >From: Daniel Atterbom >3. What was the connection between Eddie Jobson and Bryan Ferry, before >Jobson joined Roxy? I always liked this one : Their sisters were friends Pip pip Martin - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:41:30 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] Slave to Love Part 2 I thought the interview quite interesting. Strange, I knew MAMOUNA wasn't a smash hit, but it has never crossed my mind to think of it as a dismal failure. Most albums as emotionally elusive as this don't get into the top ten album chart, but ( if I remember right) in Britain it got that far, albeit briefly. It remains to me one of the highest points of Ferry's music, and of pop music generally. But I was acquainted at the time with a Bowie fan who ( perhaps this was a year or two after MAMOUNA's release) was pleased to tedium with 1: OUTSIDE, and when I thrust MAMOUNA on him he was rather contemptuous of " that sort of music." In other words, because MAMOUNA used dance rhythms, as later Ferry often does, it couldn't possibly be "serious." This may be a key to the problem: " Serious rock fans," whoever they may be, are closed to music short on boring huitar solos, while dance fans (understandably) aren't drawn to Ferry's frosty, cerebral, complex musical and lyrical ideas. The album is also possibly too demanding to fit the Sade/ Enya "atmosphere" genre to which, in some people's opinion, AVALON belongs. What this suggests is that listeners who think they're open to mew ideas and approaches are as closed as most everybody else. This rich and extraordinary record fails to satisfy precisely the people who, if they actually worked on it, would find they'd missed one of the highest points of nineties popular music. Sad really. Tim is MAMOUNA'S contradiction that - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:44:56 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] More trivia questions At 15.25 +0100 99-03-26, ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: >Is this available anywhere? If so, can you post it? No, it was published in a Swedish weekly back then, and I've moved twice since and lost my copy along the way. I'll, in distant future, go to the Royal Library in Stockholm and see if I can find it, make a copy and translate it. >Do you still know what is going on with Eddie? The U.K. newsletter, In the >Dead of Night, seems to have stopped although there was no official death >notice. I'm just curious what he's been up to (besides Nash Bridges work) and >when, if ever, the supposed U.K. "reunion" (now pretty much Jobson and >Friends) album will be out. I have no idea what Eddie's been up to, apart from that interview, since his violin solo on "Out of the Blue" on "Viva!". Maybe someone else knows? Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:39:17 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] More trivia questions Daniel Atterbom wrote: > More trivia questions > > 1. What was the name of the band that Eddie Jobson left to join Roxy Music? > Was this Curved Air? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:59:12 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] More trivia questions At 15.39 +0100 99-03-26, Martin Stockman wrote: >I always liked this one : Their sisters were friends Yes! From college even. Good work, one down, four to go! Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:52:21 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: [AVALON] Bonus Tracks Does anyone have the Mamouna import with bonus tracks? Bete Noir and Dream Home Heartache. Are they re-makes or just the original versions? Thanks, Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:01:31 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] More trivia questions At 15.39 +0100 99-03-26, jspellman@banet.net wrote: > >Was this Curved Air? Yes! Two down, three to go. Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:00:22 +0100 From: Kicki Gustafsson Subject: Re: [AVALON] More trivia questions >---------- >>From: Daniel Atterbom > >>3. What was the connection between Eddie Jobson and Bryan Ferry, before >>Jobson joined Roxy? > >I always liked this one : Their sisters were friends > > >Pip pip > >Martin Why do you always end with "pip pip"?? Bowie's "Fashion" ? Oink oink /Kicki G - ------------------------ Kicki Gustafsson, Östersunds-Posten 063-16 16 51 http://www.op.se http://www.torget.se/users/k/KickiG (privat hemsida) - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? I KNOW I am going to regret this--and for more reasons than you might think--but I went digging through the Archives of Avalonia because I knew that Vapor had tried to test our intelligence last year. And I don't think he ever declared a winner in this contest. So I am reposting it for better or for, uh, worse. Please Note: All spelling errors appear as originally (mis)typed. Colleen (You talkin' to me?) > *******THE 37th ANNUAL ROXY/FERRY TRIVIA STUMP-O-RAMA************** > > 1) Who, according to Ferry, is the first verse of 'Virginia Plain' about? > 2) Who did the original (and much better, I might add) version of > 'Fingerpoppin',' which Ferry recorded on 'Another Place, Another Time'? > 3) Who is the Grotesque Supermodel that stars in a 'Taxi' video with Ferry? > 4) What Ridiculous, Too Old, Old, Old to Rock & Ro-o-o-o-ll Recent Video > features Implied Lesbianism and Ferry with strips of film coming out of his > suit? > 5) In what Ridiculous Recent Video does Ferry sport Preposterous Middle- > Eastern Garb? > 6) What is Ferry's favorite Billie Holiday song? > 7) Who is 'Madame Claude' from 'If It Takes All Night?' > 8) Why was Andy MacKay once arrested? > 9) What Grotesque Insects shocked Ferry while visiting Jery Hall's family in > Texas? > 10) Who is Lucy Ferry's Favorite Homosexual Interior Decorator of the moment? > 11) Name the Legendary Music Figure Ferry named one of his sons after? > 12) What painting inspired the title 'Re-make/Re-model'? > 13) Name six Roxy Music songs Ferry has re-made/re-modelled. > 14) Which member of Star Trek did Ferry most resemble on the 79 Roxy tour? > 15) What Ridiculous Simple-Minded Song was turned down by Ferry, only to go #1 > as done by Simple Minds? > 16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? > 17) What Forgettable Ferry Solo Song has become a recent hit for a TV show in > a Far-Away Land? > 18) What did Ferry's father do for a living? > 19) What is the Cavernous Age Difference between Ferry and wife? > 19a) What year--and in what magazine--did the nude Eno photos finally surface? > 20) Which album did Ferry dedicated to his Beloved Mammy? > 21) Which Famous Societies of the Anonymous nature has Lucy Ferry boasted of > attending? > 22) Did Beavis and Butthead ever watch a Ferry video? > 23) On which Somewhat Unreleased Solo project did Ferry lose his mind? > 24) Name the band Ferry first sang with. > 25) Which Roxy Music lyric did no writer ever comment on,which, says Ferry, > "hurt my feelings?' > 26) What job did Paul Thompson have before joining Roxy Music? > 27) What song did Ferry write especially for Half-Man, Half Goat Roger > Daltrey? > 28) In what Ridiculous Country was Roxy's Dead-Guy tribute, 'Jealous Guy' > recorded? > 29) In what Preposterous Song does Ferry adopt the personas of both Dr. Jekyll > and Mr. Hyde? > 30) What is Bryan Ferry's real birthdate? > 31) Which artist has covered the most Ferry songs? Why is this Ironic? > 32) What happened when Ferry met Ann and Nancy Wilson of the Fabled Rock Group > Heart? > 33) Name two Roxy/Ferry music videos the Fabulous Jerry Hall graced with her > appearance? > 34) In what Sacred Locale does Ferry hunt for That's Amore in 'Love Is The > Drug'? > 35) What was Ferry's Favorite Childhood Toy? > 36) Please name Ferry's Favorite Hair Product. > 37) What foods has Ferry mentioned in songs? > 38) What does the word 'Mamouna' mean? > 39) Which song did Phil Manzanera call A Huge Mistake? > 40) On 'Bride Stripped Bare,' Ferry covers 'Same Old Blues,' by that > Exquisite, Underrated Artist--and Vapor Favorite, ladies--known as J.J. Cale. > What Cale album does this song appear on? And name the Half-Dead Southern > Rock Idiot Savants who also covered this number. > > > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 10:59:23 -0500 From: Jeff Kay Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bonus Tracks They are from the 88 Glasgow show. jspellman@banet.net wrote: > Does anyone have the Mamouna import with bonus tracks? > Bete Noir and Dream Home Heartache. > Are they re-makes or just the original versions? > Thanks, > > Jim > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:00:29 -0500 From: Jim Donato Subject: [AVALON] RE: Program[me] is better than a damn Gene: >> Among others who have publicly expressed a strong desire to record with this artist, David Bowie, Brian Eno, Bryan Ferry and Kevin Ayers are chief suspects as being "the mysterious, unknown benefactor" who, in November of '74, secured Abby Road studios to bankroll a solo album for this artist despite the fact he was known to be flaky and undependable. Being true to form, the artist rarely showed up and only a few riffs and a song title was all that he produced. The whole thing was finally scrapped. Who is this artist? << S'gotta be Syd Barrett, right? - - Jim D. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:05:00 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? 1) Who, according to Ferry, is the first verse of 'Virginia Plain' about? His lawyer. 2) Who did the original (and much better, I might add) version of 'Fingerpoppin',' which Ferry recorded on 'Another Place, Another Time'? Ike Turner. 7) Who is 'Madame Claude' from 'If It Takes All Night?' A French Madam as in brothel. 13) Name six Roxy Music songs Ferry has re-made/re-modelled. "Casanova", "2 H.B.", "Sea Breezes", "Chance Meeting", "Re-Make/Re-Model". Not counting the live versions from Glasgow 1988. 15) What Ridiculous Simple-Minded Song was turned down by Ferry, only to go #1 as done by Simple Minds? "Don't You Forget About Me". 16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? "When She Walks in The Room". 18) What did Ferry's father do for a living? A miner. 24) Name the band Ferry first sang with. The Gas Board. Daniel Daniel Atterbom *************** "God has blessed the world with Curtis Mayfield; now Mayfield has blessed us with New World Order." Danny Kelly reviewing one of the best and most positive CD's of the 90's, from a man paralysed from the neck down, in Q Magazine Detta är ett privat och personligt brev, innehållet får inte utan särskilt medgivande publiceras eller på annat sätt spridas vidare. This is a private and personal letter, the content of which is not for publication or re-distribution without my written permission. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:12:53 -0500 (EST) From: Don Becker Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > 16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? > > "When She Walks in The Room". I thought it was Crazy Love... - --Don - -- Don Becker becker@panther.adelphi.edu http://www.adelphi.edu/don Unix System Administrator, Adelphi University http://www.adelphi.edu "Why do you think I took you to all those Police Academy movies? For fun? Well, I didn't hear anybody laughing, did you?" --Homer Simpson - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:31:25 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bonus Tracks They were all B sides ( or whatever you call the second song on a cd single) on various ninties UK releases. I don't have them to hand right now, but I'm pretty sure they're all on the ARCHIVE AND LIVE three-disc collection tied in with TAXI. This was an alternative version of the TAXI singles with different bonus tracks, intended to make us buy the single twice - which, I'm ashamed to admit, some of us did. Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:43:37 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Daniel Atterbom replied.. >16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? > >"When She Walks in The Room". Is this correct ? Which Van album ? (And of course it wasn't a cover for Bryan.) Yours, amazed, Martini - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:33:53 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Martin Stockman wrote: > Daniel Atterbom replied.. > > >16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? > > > >"When She Walks in The Room". > > Is this correct ? Which Van album ? (And of course it wasn't a cover for > Bryan.) Nor, if I recollect correctly, was "Crazy Love" for Van. Please Try Again, Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:00:52 -0500 (EST) From: Hoon Shin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bonus Tracks On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 jspellman@banet.net wrote: > Does anyone have the Mamouna import with bonus tracks? > Bete Noir and Dream Home Heartache. > Are they re-makes or just the original versions? > Thanks, They are the same live versions found in the Mamouna single released in US. I got duped before. > > Jim > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:31:40 -0600 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? >On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Martin Stockman wrote: > >> Daniel Atterbom replied.. >> >> >16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? >> > >> >"When She Walks in The Room". >> >> Is this correct ? Which Van album ? (And of course it wasn't a cover for >> Bryan.) > > >Nor, if I recollect correctly, was "Crazy Love" for Van. > >Please Try Again, > >Colleen i believe somebody answered this one last time. it's 'carrickfergus.' 'crazy love' was written by van, hence he didn't 'cover' it. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:37:04 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bonus Tracks In a message dated 26/03/99 14:58:08 GMT, you write: << Does anyone have the Mamouna import with bonus tracks? Bete Noir and Dream Home Heartache. Are they re-makes or just the original versions? Thanks, >> The extra tracks are the live versions of these tracks recorded in Glasgow 10th December 1988 (I was there) . These are the ones on the 'Your Painted Smile' CD single. Regards John O'Brien - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:41:38 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Victor Hastings wrote: > i believe somebody answered this one last time. > > it's 'carrickfergus.' 'crazy love' was written by van, hence he didn't > 'cover' it. Victor is correct on both counts. It's not my contest so I have no prizes. Alas. Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:43:00 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? In a message dated 26/03/99 16:03:07 GMT, you write: << 16) What song have both Van Morrison and Ferry covered? "When She Walks in The Room". >> Wrong, this is a Ferry original. They have both done Carrickfergus - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:52:21 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Re: Bryan's cover of Van: I hope it's not too picky to remark that, if the term ' cover version' has any meaning, neither Ferry nor Morrison ' covered ' CARRICKFERGUS.' A cover version is an interpretation of another established performer's song. So Roxy covered Lennon's JEALOUS GUY, and Van Morrison covered The Muppets' BEING GREEN. But CARRICKFERGUS is an old traditional folk song, and the original writer's name ( if, indeed, it can be said to have been 'written' rather than handed down, like a legend) is lost in the mists of time. Therefore, no-one can ' cover ' CARRICKFERGUS, they can only perform it. Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:50:19 EST From: JObinv01@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bonus Tracks In a message dated 26/03/99 16:28:54 GMT, you write: << They were all B sides ( or whatever you call the second song on a cd single) on various ninties UK releases. I don't have them to hand right now, but I'm pretty sure they're all on the ARCHIVE AND LIVE three-disc collection tied in with TAXI. This was an alternative version of the TAXI singles with different bonus tracks, intended to make us buy the single twice - which, I'm ashamed to admit, some of us did. >> The b-sides CD was called Mamouna EP which was contained :- Mamouna , The 39 Steps Eno Mix , As The World Turns, She's Leaving Home, Four Letter Love, Broken Wings, Is Your Love Strong Enough ? (which has a shorter version than the 7") Jealous Guy (Live Glasgow 10th Dec 1988). The Archive And Live collection type CD you refer to was Called Girl Of My Best Friend. (Japanese). The Japanese version of Taxi included Are You Lonesome Tonight? as track 11 Regards John O'BrienFerry - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:15:54 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Tim, consulting some unnamed reference work lost to the mists of time, wrote: > I hope it's not too picky to remark that, if the term ' cover version' > has any meaning, neither Ferry nor Morrison ' covered ' CARRICKFERGUS.' > A cover version is an interpretation of another established performer's > song. So Roxy covered Lennon's JEALOUS GUY, and Van Morrison covered > The Muppets' BEING GREEN. But CARRICKFERGUS is an old traditional folk > song, and the original writer's name ( if, indeed, it can be said to > have been 'written' rather than handed down, like a legend) is lost in > the mists of time. Therefore, no-one can ' cover ' CARRICKFERGUS, they > can only perform it. Ooooooh. Someone even more pedantic than I. Careful Tim, I might lose my heart to you over this. I hope it's not too picky to remark that if one didn't write a song, then one is (in addition to The Loneliest Number) ipso facto covering it. Or, instead, to ask for the source of the definition which includes the words "established performer." Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:17:50 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? About cover versions: So by your definition, Peter Pears, on his classic recordings of ancient english folk songs arranged by his partner Benjamin Britten is doing 'cover versions'? A new recording of AIDA, it not being the first, is therefore a ' cover version'? John Coltrane's improvisations on THESE FOOLISH THINGS is a 'cover version'? I think the notion of cover versions has only come about with the development of Rock music, and with it composers who are not musically literate. Cole Porter wrote songs for other people to perform. So are the Sinatra and Fitzgerald performances of these songs ' cover versions'? I doubt either of these people would have used the term. Rock brought about the performer/composer, the person who wrote songs only for himself to pwerform. He may be flattered by other people's versions, but that usually wasn't what was in his mind. I doubt Ferry was thinking about other people interpreting SLAVE TO LOVE when he composed it! So I maintain that CARRICKFERGUS is not being 'covered' by Morrison or Ferry, any more than Murray Perahia is ' covering' Piano sonatas. Somebody interpreting a piece of music they didn't write is not of itself a definition of " cover versions.' Incidentally, does Ferry 'cover' Elvis' ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT? Yes - except that LONESOME is a thirties song, and Presley's own version isn't the first. But most people would not apply that term to Presley's recording. This makes a nice paradox: Ferry does a cover version of another cover version which isn't a cover version in the sense we now use the word. Tim Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:28:35 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? ...Because you see, to 'perform' someone else's song is not to ' cover' that song, it is to ' perform' that song. Phew. Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:07:23 -0600 (CST) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? > Colleen (You talkin' to me?) > > > *******THE 37th ANNUAL ROXY/FERRY TRIVIA STUMP-O-RAMA************** > > > > 9) What Grotesque Insects shocked Ferry while visiting Jery Hall's family in > > Texas? cockroaches > > 11) Name the Legendary Music Figure Ferry named one of his sons after? Otis > > 18) What did Ferry's father do for a living? coal miner? > > 28) In what Ridiculous Country was Roxy's Dead-Guy tribute, 'Jealous Guy' > > recorded? Greenland (just a guess) > > 29) In what Preposterous Song does Ferry adopt the personas of both Dr. Jekyll > > and Mr. Hyde? I don't know but it's a Serge Gainsbourg song. > > 38) What does the word 'Mamouna' mean? Horse in Greek? No that's Equus. I give up, what, Dawne? Ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:22:33 -0500 From: Tim Kendrick Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? The Jekyll & Hyde song: Isn't that STILL FALLS THE RAIN? 'Dear Hyde' etc. Tim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:15:50 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? Colleen Matan wrote: > Ooooooh. Someone even more pedantic than I. Careful Tim, I might lose my > heart to you over this. > > I hope it's not too picky to remark that if one didn't write a song, then > one is (in addition to The Loneliest Number) ipso facto covering it. > > Or, instead, to ask for the source of the definition which includes the > words "established performer." > > Colleen So would Colleen be "covering" Jimmy Vapor's trivia questions? Or just recycling them? He was certainly an established whatever he is. All this from the lady who once told the group to "be more creative" and told me to "make new memories". Oh the irony. Nice to here Jimmy's name though, '99 has been Vapor free so far. Hope all is well JV........your biggest fan, Jim - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:23:34 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Heather Marie Propes wrote: > > > 18) What did Ferry's father do for a living? > > coal miner? Daniel also guessed this, but that's not it. > > > 38) What does the word 'Mamouna' mean? > > Horse in Greek? No that's Equus. I give up, what, Dawne? I'm not Dawne, but I know it's not a Greek word. And I was going to continue counting angels and splitting hairs with Tim, but after he submitted this > ...Because you see, to 'perform' someone else's song is not to ' cover' > that song, it is to ' perform' that song. there was really little else I could say, right? (Except that I think there was this Williams guy who also sang "Are You Lonesome Tonight" first, if not better). Colleen - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:25:16 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? > > > 3) Who is the Grotesque Supermodel that stars in a 'Taxi' video with Ferry? > Anna Nichole Smith > > 11) Name the Legendary Music Figure Ferry named one of his sons after? > Otis Reeding > 14) Which member of Star Trek did Ferry most resemble on the 79 Roxy tour? > Mr. Spock > 15) What Ridiculous Simple-Minded Song was turned down by Ferry, only to go #1 > > as done by Simple Minds? > Don't You Forget About Me > > > > > 29) In what Preposterous Song does Ferry adopt the personas of both Dr. Jekyll > > and Mr. Hyde? > Still Falls The Rain > > > 34) In what Sacred Locale does Ferry hunt for That's Amore in 'Love Is The > > Drug'? > The Singles Bar - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:32:37 -0500 From: jspellman@banet.net Subject: [AVALON] Vapor? you want Vapor? Video titles Jimmy might approve of.... Velveeta Mineshaft Velveeta Winecellar This Glam Rock Toilet Bowl They Call Avalon any others? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:40:53 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] trivia? you want trivia? On Fri, 26 Mar 1999 jspellman@banet.net wrote: > So would Colleen be "covering" Jimmy Vapor's trivia questions? > Or just recycling them? He was certainly an established whatever > he is. All this from the lady who once told the group > to "be more creative" and told me to "make new memories". Oh the irony. Jim, you are sooo sweet. No one has called me a "lady" in years. Thank you. And congratulations for being the only person to understand irony. > Nice to here Jimmy's name though, '99 has been Vapor free so far. > Hope all is well JV........your biggest fan, Yes, well, just remember what happened to all of Bluebeard's wives. 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