From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V4 #45 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, February 4 1999 Volume 04 : Number 045 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] The Associates / God Bless America [Rex Estorffe ] Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #8A:Profiles [Heather Marie Propes ] Re: [AVALON] New Town [Heather Marie Propes ] RE: [AVALON] Should she do it.... ["Paul A. Moore" ] Re: [AVALON] The Associates / God Bless America [f2hb@casema.net] [AVALON] Blockbuster [Tyro ] RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady [f2hb@casema.net] RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady ["Paul A. Moore" ] Re: [AVALON] Capitalism [Rex Estorffe ] Re: [AVALON] Should she do it.... [Rex Estorffe ] RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady [f2hb@casema.net] Re: [AVALON] poll results: part 2 [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Sightings [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Wedding [Frank and Liz Smith ] RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady [f2hb@casema.net] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:25:10 -0800 From: Rex Estorffe Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Associates / God Bless America Martin Stockman wrote: > > Jim asked > > > >Martin, are The Associates a band that had an album called "Sulk"? > >And what does it mean "styling myself" on the sleeve? > > Yes. The Associates were a very fine band in the early 80's, fronted by one > Billy Mackenzie who crooned like the Maestro but, how shall I put it, would > not have struggled with the high notes on More Than This. The Associates > were most famous for the singles "Party Fears *2" and the aforementioned > "Waiting for the loveboat" - the cover of which had Billy cast in US Navy > Officers uniform on some faraway beach gazing into the sunset. Hence my > styling. Billy was very "out" about his adoration of Bryan but not so candid > about his sexuality. > > As Billy Bragg famously says (paraphrasing Mott The Hoople) "Its a mighty > long way from Top Of The Pops to a lfe on the dole," and somewhere along the > line dear Billy Mackenzie lost interest in this vale of tears, and last year > committed suicide in his mother's garden shed. Perhaps his loveboat never > came in. Perhaps Rexy's right and our decadent European Welfare State is to > blame. Perhaps if Billy's Glasgow had had America's trailer parks and > shopping malls he could have seen a point to it all. Perhaps. > > I guess Rex is waking up to enough bad press. How about a duel ? An heroic > scar would sit prettily upon my cheekbones. > > Yours, casting a poignent eye upon my garden shed, > > Martin > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon God hates trailer parks as seen on TV,rexy has his own dream home with his new pool, no plain wrapper babes yet,air pump in the 'shed' just in case, one of my favs. rexy - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:50:16 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Capitalism - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kendrick To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Capitalism >I must agree with Chris Garrett that 'Rexy' is talking complete pooh. To >start with, Ted Heath was a Conservative,and Harold Wilson a Labour >Prime Minister.I'm not sure that 'Rexy' is in any other way qualified to >opine about British Political history. I beg to differ. Rexy is in New Orleans, where as you know, the British were beaten like dogs by drunken yahoos and chased out of America for the last time. By Louisiana law, he`s allowed to make up anything he wants about them. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:47:52 -0600 (CST) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONTEST #8A:Profiles On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 jspellman@banet.net wrote: > > > Heather Marie Propes wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 Amethysts9@aol.com wrote: > > > > > COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE: "Sexually, I AM a kitten" > > > > Hey, that's what I said! Sorry babe, there's only room for one kitten in > > this town!! > > > > Meow! > > > > Heather > > > > If this is the case, let's keep Amethysts. > > Jim > I guess I deserved it. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 09:49:59 +0800 From: "Paul A. Moore" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady The sands of time make this all rather misty now but I seem to recall The Associates (great whilst they lasted) appearing in the UK on Top of the Pops doing some song called Love Hangover (or something like that - sorry but at the office and can't refer to the CD). The female backing singer for them was the same girl that appeared wearing a mask at around the same time providing the female vocals on Roxys appearance on the same show doing Avalon. She was, I think, also connected with Martha and the Muffins. Any ideas as to who. Still, provides some form of link .........and f you want a more tenuous one then Billy Makenzie used to breed whippets which, as we all know, Andy likes to walk..... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:43:42 -0500 From: "Decophile" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Capitalism - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kendrick To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Capitalism >I must agree with Chris Garrett that 'Rexy' is talking complete pooh. To >start with, Ted Heath was a Conservative,and Harold Wilson a Labour >Prime Minister.I'm not sure that 'Rexy' is in any other way qualified to >opine about British Political history. I beg to differ. Rexy is in New Orleans where, as you know, the British were beaten by drunken yahoos and chased out of America for good. By Louisiana law, he`s allowed to say anything he wants about them. Gene - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:03:32 -0600 (CST) From: Heather Marie Propes Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Town On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Bahi Para wrote: > Lee Elliott, a much-missed contributor to this list, once pointed out that > Bryan's photograph on Bete Noire's back cover was carefully put together > using photos of Egyptian treasures and works of art, many of which are > clearly identifiable; the identities of these goddesses and the like are > almost certainly significant. Perhaps only Bryan knows the whole story. > There almost certainly *is* a story - detail, detail, detail... and yet, in > interviews, Bryan just said that he was fed up with the idea of yet another > "head down, look up, cigarette in hand" photograph, so cut up his photo, > painted the album's lettering in Tippex and was done with it. > This is a lot of iconography. And I thought Bete Noice was just another display of meaningless 80's postmodernist pastiche. But I should have known that will Bryan, at least it'd be meaningFUL pastiche. I wonder why he used Egyptian Mythology? Perhaps he was wondering about death, or who his soul mate might be. But then the term Bete Noire, "Black Beast," kind of evokes a sense of the underworld, the realm of the dead, Osiris, but also Africa, with its connotations of mystery. > Speaking of images, do you see on the front cover the subject alluded to in > the album's title song? Glance at the shadow cast by Bryan's hand (sans > cigarette) upon his face: the outline on this Alistair Thain photograph > bears a remarkable similarity to that of the creature Angel mentioned > recently, featured on the Bete Noire tour, albeit in a somewhat different > pose. Its legs and rump are the shadow of Bryan's forefinger, its belly and > torso the shade along the side of his nose; one of its arms is raised > across Bryan's forehead while the other wraps around his left eye. > I'll have to look a bit closer for this. I wish I were 23! I was just asked if I'd be interested in a 3 month job doing Y2K inventories all over Europe. Oh well. ciao, Heather - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:07:55 +0800 From: "Paul A. Moore" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Should she do it.... For what it's worth DO IT!!! ....and remember, you'll not get a chance to do Y2K items in 11 months time!!! ....anyone else like to persuade her............lher chance to live out "Song for Europe..."". I wish I were 23! I was just asked if I'd be interested in a 3 month job doing Y2K inventories all over Europe. Oh well. ciao, Heather -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:25:37 +0100 From: f2hb@casema.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Associates / God Bless America jspellman@banet.net wrote: > Tragic story. Many years ago my former mate saw it in a used record store >and bought it because she liked the cover. No reason why. Never >heard of it before. But I soon fell in loved with it. >Couldn't believe it. I'm not surprised Maestro was an "inspiration" for him. >I only have the one LP Sulk. Was that one of their better ones? >I can't find their stuff anywhere - as if they never happened. > >Jim Additional info on innersleeve of "Associates Popera" (The Singles Collection) Side 1: - ------- Party fears two Club country 18 Carat love aafair Love hangover Those first impressions Side 2: - ------- Waiting for the love boat Breakfast Take me to the girl Heart of glass Country boy Singles - ------- jun 1979 Boys keep swingin aug 1980 Affectionate punch apr 1981 Tell me easter's on friday jun 1981 Q quarters jul 1981 Kitchen person sep 1981 A oct 1981 Message oblique speech nov 1981 White car in Germany dec 1981 Kites mar 1982 Party fears two may 1982 Club country jul 1982 18 Carat love affair aug 1982 Even dogs in the wild nov 1982 Matter of gender feb 1983 Ice cream factory may 1984 Those first impressions aug 1984 Waiting for the loveboat jan 1985 Breakfast oct 1985 Take me to the girl mar 1989 Heart of glass jun 1989 Country boy nov 1990 Poperetta Albums - ------ aug 1980 The affectionate punch oct 1981 Fourth drawer down oct 1982 Sulk feb 1985 Perhaps jul 1989 The glamour chase (unreleased as of yet) Frank - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:24:07 -0500 (EST) From: Tyro Subject: [AVALON] Blockbuster I don't know if this has been discussed before, but the Blockbuster video ad on TV has been freaking me out. The song - "The 'In'-Crowd"!! This is the most exposure Bryan has had in America... well, ever. Tyro. - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 03:30:44 +0100 From: f2hb@casema.net Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady >The sands of time make this all rather misty now but I seem to recall The >Associates (great whilst they lasted) appearing in the UK on Top of the Pops >doing some song called Love Hangover (or something like that - sorry but at >the office and can't refer to the CD). Martha Ladley / 18 Carat love affair Frank - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:30:51 +0800 From: "Paul A. Moore" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady Thanks Frank, but can you confirm the Roxy link? Any story behind it? And whatwever happened to her ? (Sorry for all the questions....) -----Original Message----- From: f2hb@casema.net [mailto:f2hb@casema.net] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 10:31 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady >The sands of time make this all rather misty now but I seem to recall The >Associates (great whilst they lasted) appearing in the UK on Top of the Pops >doing some song called Love Hangover (or something like that - sorry but at >the office and can't refer to the CD). Martha Ladley / 18 Carat love affair Frank -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:54:09 -0700 From: "Tony R Counts" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Blockbuster I about fell out of my chair when I heard that voice on tv. Does anyone know anything about that Blockbuster commercial? Later - -----Original Message----- From: Tyro To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 7:34 PM Subject: [AVALON] Blockbuster > > >I don't know if this has been discussed before, but the Blockbuster video >ad on TV has been freaking me out. The song - "The 'In'-Crowd"!! This is >the most exposure Bryan has had in America... well, ever. Tyro. > > > > > > >-------------------- >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:44:51 -0800 From: Rex Estorffe Subject: Re: [AVALON] Capitalism Decophile wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Kendrick > To: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Capitalism > > >I must agree with Chris Garrett that 'Rexy' is talking complete pooh. To > >start with, Ted Heath was a Conservative,and Harold Wilson a Labour > >Prime Minister.I'm not sure that 'Rexy' is in any other way qualified to > >opine about British Political history. > > I beg to differ. Rexy is in New Orleans, where as you know, the British were > beaten like dogs by drunken yahoos and chased out of America for the last > time. By Louisiana law, he`s allowed to make up anything he wants about > them. > > Gene > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Ta! very much rexy HAPPY MARDI GRAS - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 21:53:26 -0800 From: Rex Estorffe Subject: Re: [AVALON] Should she do it.... Paul A. Moore wrote: > > For what it's worth DO IT!!! ....and remember, you'll not get a chance to > do Y2K items in 11 months time!!! > ....anyone else like to persuade her............lher chance to live out > "Song for Europe..."". > > > I wish I were 23! I was just asked if I'd be interested in a > 3 month job > doing Y2K inventories all over Europe. Oh well. > > ciao, > > Heather > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Do it, To it,you might get to walk the same streets when he was young - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 04:23:50 +0100 From: f2hb@casema.net Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady "Paul A. Moore" wrote: >Thanks Frank, but can you confirm the Roxy link? Any story behind it? And >whatwever happened to her ? (Sorry for all the questions....) no..so sorry I got info from same innersleve of "Associates Popera" I will have search on the Net..np with questions Frank - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:36:48 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] poll results: part 2 << Part 2 of the results of the RM/ BF Poll >> Uh, I guess I missed Part 1. Could you re-send privately? Arnie ASchulberg@aol.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:36:37 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Sightings In a message dated 99-02-02 14:14:59 EST, JObinv01@aol.com wrote: << I also met David Williams, and Chester Camen and had a good long muso chat about how Bryan puts his ideas to them and the unique way he records them. >> Care to share? Arnie - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:15:03 +0000 From: Frank and Liz Smith Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Wedding "You go to my head...." and "Valentine"... - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 20:15:57 +0000 From: Frank and Liz Smith Subject: Re: [AVALON] Quizz time Thanks for the information!!!! - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 07:24:52 +0100 From: f2hb@casema.net Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Associates -mysterious lady >"Paul A. Moore" wrote: >>Thanks Frank, but can you confirm the Roxy link? Any story behind it? And >>whatwever happened to her ? (Sorry for all the questions....) > >no..so sorry I got info from same innersleve of "Associates Popera" >I will have search on the Net..np with questions > >Frank > follow up: goto: http://www.sharpmedia.com/services.html there's a pic of Martha Ladley for Real World Music..if that's her. Frank - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V4 #45 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest