From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #253 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, October 16 1998 Volume 03 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Where's Paul? [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Where's Paul? [Richard Evans ] [AVALON] Paul Thomson ["Bogus Man" ] RE: [AVALON] Paul Thomson ["John Kent" ] [AVALON] more good reunions [Tyro ] Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell [Tyro ] Re: [AVALON] more good reunions [Will ] [AVALON] Re: Russian site [Will ] Re: [AVALON] SNL [jspellma@techadvisers.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:51:04 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's Paul? Jeff Barbanell wrote: > > I, too, missed Thompson's style. BTW, has everyone here heard Thompson's > B-side opus "Your Application's Failed?" It's been years for me since I no > longer own a copy. > > Jeff YAF is great - best Roxy b-side. Its on the boxed set Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:59:26 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's Paul? jspellma@techadvisers.com wrote: > > Bob, > > I totally agree. Paul Thompson was such a > part of the sound. I loved the Roxy reunion > in '79. It was so fresh. Still authentic Roxy > but with a new twist. Although they had no > actual Eno/Jobson substitute, David Skinner did a > great job on keys and Phil and Andy got to > stretch out some. Still with Paul Thompson, > just one guitar, and a great bass player, > Ferry singing with such confidence.... > Stronger Through The Years, Manifesto, > Still Falls, My Little Girl are some of my favorites. > And of coarse a much better version of Angel Eyes. > and Trash is neat, and all that before the > brilliant Dance Away. But it was the end of the line. > The 80's changed everything. > > I think "Manifesto" sounds a lot more like > "Siren" than it does "Flesh & Blood". This is > when the sound of the band totally changed. > compression and reverb on everything, high gloss... > It was still way good, but it really took a turn > for the sidewalk. To me, his 80's solo albums > were heavier. I like the heavy stuff. > > Will it be a six man, one guitar Roxy? Or will it be > back-up singers, percussion, 3 guitars and dancing > bears? Can you imagine Paul Thompson playing > "Windswept"? How about EJ playing Avalon? (Actually...) > How about Eno and Jobson and leopard skins and > just the 1st 4 albums? > > Where do they pick it up? I hope some new music > is coming. And if Paul Thompson is invited or not > will heavily influence the direction and focus of > the material. If not, it's more like Bryan Ferry > with Phil and Andy in his band. This is not > necessarily bad, but to me, Roxy is one guitar, > a lead singer, an anonymous bass player, sax, > and one other guy, usually doing crazy stuff. > > Jim > > -------------------- Jim I have been lstening to a lot of Roxy stuff recently. Stranded remains my favourite but the live Manifesto tour CD says it all. PT is on fine form and will always be Roxy's drummer. Andy Newmark is a great technician but he's Ferry's sticksman. On that tour Phil and Andy were brilliant finishing off songs like Out of the Blue in superb style. The Thompson/Tibbs rythmn section was Roxy's best The orginal East side of the album is up there with side ones of RM and FYP. Let's have Bryan, Andy, Phil and Paul with Eno producing etc for the reunion and guys - stretch out a little please. Cheers Richard - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:11:27 PDT From: "Bogus Man" Subject: [AVALON] Paul Thomson Hi!! I agree with all about that Paul Thompson is the real Roxydrummer. Just listen to the "new" live-album from the Manifestotour. But I read somewhere that a big reason that P.T not played on Flesh+Blood was that he that good he had to be. He didn't practice unless he was on tour. He had more fun with "meching" his motorcycles and that kind of thing. It was ment that P.T. should play on the F+B-tour but he broked his thumb so they had to call Andy Newmark in the last minute. I don't know if P.T. play his drums so much now adays and if he didn't I don't think he fits into a new setup of Roxy Music. -But, of course, it would be the best thing. :-) Bogey ps (I can tell that Andy Newmark is one of my favourit- drummers) ds ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:24:51 +0100 From: "John Kent" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Paul Thomson All stations call to Paul thompson- don't forget he was called the great Paul Thompson. I am sure with all the great musicians\session musicians that have played with Roxy\Ferry over the years a great band could be assembled.... any one counted them? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Bogus Man > Sent: 15 October 1998 11:11 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Paul Thomson > > > Hi!! > > I agree with all about that Paul Thompson is the > real Roxydrummer. Just listen to the "new" live-album > from the Manifestotour. > > But I read somewhere that a big reason that P.T not > played on Flesh+Blood was that he that good he had to > be. He didn't practice unless he was on tour. He > had more fun with "meching" his motorcycles and that > kind of thing. It was ment that P.T. should play on the > F+B-tour but he broked his thumb so they had to call > Andy Newmark in the last minute. > > I don't know if P.T. play his drums so much now adays > and if he didn't I don't think he fits into a new setup > of Roxy Music. -But, of course, it would be the best > thing. :-) > > > Bogey > > ps > (I can tell that Andy Newmark is one of my favourit- > drummers) > ds > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Tyro Subject: [AVALON] more good reunions Some more successful reunions: Don't forget Echo and the Bunnymen's recent Evergreen: one of the best. They even still looked good. Echo were IMHO a magnifficent '80s band. This might be obscure, but the Buzzcocks' early '90s reunion album was certainly good. They are my favorite punk-era punk band. On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, erik simpson wrote: > > Reunions that were musically successful (in my opinion); > > Japan-the Rain Tree Crow cd was excellent and there was no greatest hits > tour and before the album was finished, they weren't talking to each other > again. David Sylvian had hijacked the tapes and locked the rest of the band > out. Short, not-so-sweet, but the results were excellent. > > Pere Ubu-they have actually lasted longer the second time around, although > the only consistent "original" member is David Thomas. > > Gang of 4-this might be sacriliege to some, but I really enjoyed ""Mall" and > "Shrinkwrap". Of course with only 2 of the original 4 actually involved this > raises the question of what constitutes a "reunion". Do you have to have > everyone? Or almost everyone? Or do you just need the "crucial" members? and > who gets to decide what constitutes "crucial"? Or is it just whomever can > manage to get along? > > Elvis Costello and the Atractions-I didn't care much for "Brutal Youth" (but > it wasn't technically billed as Costello and the Attractions either), but > "All This Useless Beauty" was good enough to make wish they had kept it > going. Even with all the different formats Costello presents himself in, the > Attractions always complement him the best, in my opinion. > > Before anyone brings up King Crimson, I would have to say that they tend to > "reconvene" rather than have "reunions". If Fripp got John Wetton and David > Cross together with himself and Bill Bruford, well, that would be different. > Also kind of unlikely, I imagine. > > I am sure someone can come up with some others, probably some I would > disagree with regarding the degree of their success, and there doesn't see > to be any point in detailing failed reunions, so I will just say, if Roxy > get back together, here's hoping they do it for the proper motivations, and > if they don't, here's hoping they transcend that, get back in the studio and > come up with some stunning new material anyway, > > Long-winded as usual, but, hey, I haven't posted much for quite some time. > > Bye; > > > Erik S > > > > > > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:24:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Tyro Subject: Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 Amethysts9@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/11/98 7:27:22 PM, you wrote: > > <<- None of the former Beatles could get a hit record to save their > lives, but hype up a recording that includes JL, and voila! Three #1 > albums. >> > Um, not to quibble, but remember George Harrison's "Cloud Nine"? A very successful album with a hit single. Didn't McCartney's last one do well? - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:35:42 -0500 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thomson Bogus Man wrote: > Hi!! > > I agree with all about that Paul Thompson is the > real Roxydrummer. Just listen to the "new" live-album > from the Manifestotour. > > But I read somewhere that a big reason that P.T not > played on Flesh+Blood was that he that good he had to > be. He didn't practice unless he was on tour. He > had more fun with "meching" his motorcycles and that > kind of thing. It was ment that P.T. should play on the > F+B-tour but he broked his thumb so they had to call > Andy Newmark in the last minute. > > I don't know if P.T. play his drums so much now adays > and if he didn't I don't think he fits into a new setup > of Roxy Music. -But, of course, it would be the best > thing. :-) > > > Bogey > > ps > (I can tell that Andy Newmark is one of my favourit- > drummers) > ds > > Andy Newmark is indeed a fine drummer. Way more finesse than Paul > Thompson. Not to bash PT but he is more of a basher. His skills may be > in question but let us not forget that he was in Concrete Blonde not > all that long ago, so shouldn't be that rusty. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:55:03 -0500 From: Will Subject: Re: [AVALON] more good reunions Tyro wrote: > Some more successful reunions: > > Don't forget Echo and the Bunnymen's recent Evergreen: one of the best. > They even still looked good. Echo were IMHO a magnifficent '80s band. > > This might be obscure, but the Buzzcocks' early '90s reunion album was > certainly good. They are my favorite punk-era punk band. > BUZZCOCKS...BUNNYMEN...YES I LIKE. it's a harmony in my head. I have some boot Buzzcocks and Bunnymen . Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:01:31 -0500 From: Will Subject: [AVALON] Re: Russian site I just went back to that Russian ftp site and now they have a full lyrics directory, just incase anybody didn't see that. Will - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:19:21 -0400 From: jspellma@techadvisers.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] SNL >Where on this planet can SNL be received? I live in Holland. I believe the channel is Comedy Central (US). It's part of some cable packages, or you may have to get a package to include it, or it may be unavailable with some carriers. Don't ask me why each cable company has some channels and not others. For instance, I can't get BET (Black Entertainment) in my town, yet my family in the next town over can. I have Cartoon Network but they don't. In any case this is probably the 1988 episode with Ferry performing "Right Stuff" and "Kiss and Tell". Bryan was never better IMO. I'll try to get a couple of TV's and VCR's going with hopes of passing it on. Jim > >Dear Dawn,& >Y'all, >Bryan will be on SNL again Nov 11 3.00 pm Dawn get that VCR ready and >what ever you need for an enjoyable afternoon Rexy > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #253 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest