From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V3 #251 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, October 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 251 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell ["M.R.Humphrey" ] [AVALON] Let's work together.. again [jas2347@xsite.net] Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell [Richard Evans Subject: Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell > In a message dated 10/11/98 7:27:22 PM, you wrote: > > <<- None of the former Beatles could get a hit record to save their > lives, but hype up a recording that includes JL, and voila! Three #1 > albums. >> > > So true. Remember what 'flops' "Instant Karma," "Imagine," "Whatever Gets > You Through the Night," "Starting Over," "My Sweet Lord," "It Don't Come > Easy," "Back Off Boogaloo," "Live and Let Die," and "Band on the Run," were > (just to name a few)? Don't forget McCartney's "Mull of Kintyre" that "flopped" to the top of the charts for nine consecutive weeks. Mick Humphrey. Toronto, Canada. M.R.Humphrey@myna.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:55:28 EDT From: Amethysts9@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell In a message dated 10/13/98 4:30:10 AM, you wrote: <> OK. "Flaming Pie," released by Paul, 1997, reached #2 on billboard chart, stayed there 1 week, remained on chart 18 weeks. In 1993 "Off the Ground" remained on chart for 20 weeks. "Flowers in the Dirt" stayed on charts for 49 weeks in 1989. Back to our topic--Bryan. I loved Mamouna. I found it heartbreaking and hauntingly beautiful. Bryan is one of a very few musicians,I feel, who is capable of arousing such deep emotions. Would you rather he kept finding new ways to redo "Love is the Drug" and "Virginia Plain?" How boring that would be! I am glad that BF/RM was never part of '70's AM radio(remember that?) top 10. At least one thing Bryan has never been is boring, unlike some bands that have been around as long as or longer than RM. Anne - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:33:28 +0200 From: "Han Snijders Willy van der Geest" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SNL - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Rex Estorffe Aan: avalon@smoe.org Datum: dinsdag 13 oktober 1998 4:03 Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] SNL >anton van lammeren wrote: >> >> Where on this planet can SNL be received? I live in Holland. > Only in AMERICA! so it seems come visit its fun, i went to >holland and some idiot stole my car radio while parked in >amsterdam completly missing $4000.00 cash under my driver side floor mat >i hope he reads this he must of been leaning on it while stealing the >radio.SNL NOV 11 BF Only in America? I've seen it here in Holland for three times. There are about 30 different stations on TV. To give you an idee about the situations on the Dutch television: the 'interviews' with Bill C. we could watch here complete at six stations at the same time! Parking your car in Amsterdam with a radio and and for $4000 under a mat? That's sounds like bungee jumping without elastic. I would have liked to see your face before and after looking under the mat! The next time you come to Holland, come visit me and watch the tapes of the programmes that you missed in America and I'll also show you the good sides of Holland. Greetings Han - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:27:50 +0100 From: "John Kent" Subject: RE: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell It would be interesting to see who gets into a reformed Roxy- certainly the core of Mackay, manzanera and Ferry would be there, but surely the balance would come from session musicians more recently used by Ferry rather than Eno or Jobson. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > M.R.Humphrey > Sent: 13 October 1998 06:08 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell > > > > In a message dated 10/11/98 7:27:22 PM, you wrote: > > > > <<- None of the former Beatles could get a hit record to save their > > lives, but hype up a recording that includes JL, and voila! Three #1 > > albums. >> > > > > So true. Remember what 'flops' "Instant Karma," "Imagine," > "Whatever Gets > > You Through the Night," "Starting Over," "My Sweet Lord," "It Don't Come > > Easy," "Back Off Boogaloo," "Live and Let Die," and "Band on > the Run," were > > (just to name a few)? > > Don't forget McCartney's "Mull of Kintyre" that "flopped" to the top > of the charts for nine consecutive weeks. > > Mick Humphrey. Toronto, Canada. > M.R.Humphrey@myna.com > > > > > -------------------- > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:08:17 -0700 (PDT) From: jon jepson Subject: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell - ---Amethysts9@aol.com wrote: > > OK. "Flaming Pie," released by Paul, 1997, reached #2 on billboard chart, > stayed there 1 week, remained on chart 18 weeks. In 1993 "Off the Ground" > remained on chart for 20 weeks. "Flowers in the Dirt" stayed on charts for 49 > weeks in 1989. I give. My theory still stands - comparably vs. Anthology, those are poor stats. The BEATLES ANTHOLOGY cache' still garnered mores sales than all the former Beatles releases for all of 1987 to 1997 COMBINED. (God, I can't wait, she's gonna get the exact figures out....) My point was IN COMPARISON, OF LATE, solo fabs stuff were not as well-received; just like of late, Bryan's solo work has not been as well received as a NEW RM release would be. Are we finally clear on this? > > Bryan is one of a very few musicians,I feel, who is capable of arousing such deep emotions. I agree. Would you rather he kept finding new ways to redo "Love is the Drug" and "Virginia Plain?" Why is it the everyone misconstrues that a RM reunion means someone wants them to remake/remodel old songs into new ones that sound something like their old ones? My point is that IMHO, Bryan has stagnated badly with Taxi and Mamouna. Those albums do not break new ground. I can only HOPE that reuniting the band can stir some alternative creative juices, and that does not mean trying to copy their old sound! At least one thing Bryan has never been is boring, unlike some bands that > have been around as long as or longer than RM. > In some cases, that is very true. Having followed the band since 1975, I've supported Bryan's efforts wholeheartedly, UP TO Taxi and Mamouna. I'm sorry if I can't be enthralled just with the fact he is still doing something, regardless of what it is. I support him doing whatever it is that pleases him; that is his right and perogative - but that it doesn't please ME doesn't mean I have it in for him, or don't respect his creative process. Two lackluster albums in a row are doing nothing for his much deserved reputation. Teaming with Eno and the rest of the gang (Eno producing, and participating studio only) would be too cool. And it certainly can be no worse than Taxi or Mamouna. fabtrick "reputation is a fragile thing - fame and money don't mean much to me - don't do it just to prove a point - it doesn't matter..." ONE ON ONE Cheap Trick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:40:45 -0400 From: Amanda Carsner Subject: [AVALON] THE BEST OF MUSIKLADEN I was just cruising through CDNow when I came across a new Roxy Music-related video - THE BEST OF MUSIKLADEN. It includes 6 tracks, including "All I want is you", "Editions of you", etc. The expected video release date is October 27th, '98. Is this a brand new something that has never been released before? Could it be that this is somehow connected to the very soon to be released VELVET GOLDMINE? Any thoughts on this? Cheers, Amanda - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:45:16 -0500 From: jas2347@xsite.net Subject: [AVALON] Let's work together.. again Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:58:34 -0700 From: erik simpson Subject: [AVALON] Deodato, "Mamouna" and reunions you wrote: Gang of 4-this might be sacriliege to some, but I really enjoyed ""Mall" and "Shrinkwrap". Of course with only 2 of the original 4 actually involved this raises the question of what constitutes a "reunion". Do you have to have everyone? Or almost everyone? Or do you just need the "crucial" members? and who gets to decide what constitutes "crucial"? Or is it just whomever can manage to get along? I'm a Gang of Four fan, and their "reunion" really wastn't one becasue Dave Allen and Hugo Burnham, were not there performing with them. It was just Andy Gill and Jon King who were for all intense purposes Gang of Four for the last ten years anyway ( not including Sara Lee). As far as MALL, it did not live up to the first albums, but then again what could. Times change and so did they. As with a Roxy reunion, yes I would love to hear the past, but something new as well. If we don't see the original lineup, then I"ll take Roxy Mach 2 ( with Eddie Jobson). Will they do it for the money? Yes, but I would have to believe, if you read Phil's comments, that they would want to do it because they genuinely like one another and miss playing together. I for one will not feel diappointed not cheated. I just want to see them again. I hope that it won't be a... Chance Meeting jas - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:33:38 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: FW: [AVALON] Tick tick tock, and time will tell Amethysts9@aol.com wrote: > > Back to our topic--Bryan. I loved Mamouna. I found it heartbreaking and > hauntingly beautiful. Bryan is one of a very few musicians,I feel, who is > capable of arousing such deep emotions. Would you rather he kept finding new > ways to redo "Love is the Drug" and "Virginia Plain?" How boring that would > be! I am glad that BF/RM was never part of '70's AM radio(remember that?) top > 10. At least one thing Bryan has never been is boring, unlike some bands that > have been around as long as or longer than RM. > > Anne > I think a Roxy reunion would be just the best thing. If Ferry, Mackay, Manzanera and Eno can get together and produce NEW stuff (without reworking BF discards) then I think commercial and critical success would follow. As far as supporting musicians I hope they don't overdo it. They always seemed to work best when it was just them. I love Taxi and parts of Mamouna but I have never rated BF's solo stuff up there with the RM catalogue. Cheers Richard PS - Stranded is my fave - -------------------- To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V3 #251 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest